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Wed Jun-08-11 08:52 PM
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| 15. I'm guessing that the 27 shotguns in the OP were for random number generation.. |
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That would work well, shoot a piece of graph paper with a shotgun and you could record the impact points of the pellets to generate random numbers.
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| -March 2010. DOE bought 27 shotguns for their law enforcement arm. |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-11 07:33 PM |
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I haven't followed this very well |
Wickerman |
Jun-08-11 07:42 PM |
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DOE spokesperson described the type of criminal activity that might warrant this |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-11 07:51 PM |
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What does any of this have to do with the Department of Energy? |
Philippine expat |
Jun-08-11 07:50 PM |
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The DOE is the Department of Education. |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-11 07:53 PM |
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no, it certainly does not |
itsrobert |
Jun-08-11 08:45 PM |
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Link. |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-11 08:48 PM |
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Jun-09-11 07:49 PM |
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I am not quibbling, just stating a fact |
itsrobert |
Jun-10-11 10:21 AM |
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Some people write DoEd in emails and memos, ED is the correct abbrev. DOE is Energy. |
Nailzberg |
Jun-08-11 08:48 PM |
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Link |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-11 08:49 PM |
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Links |
Nailzberg |
Jun-08-11 08:50 PM |
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Both are DOE. |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-11 08:51 PM |
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DOE maintains the nuclear stockpiles - they don't need no stinkin' shotguns! |
bananas |
Jun-08-11 09:09 PM |
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No they are not. |
Hangingon |
Jun-09-11 08:31 AM |
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negative www.ed.gov |
snooper2 |
Jun-09-11 08:37 AM |
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OMG!!! |
chervilant |
Jun-09-11 11:01 AM |
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Thank you! |
libmom74 |
Jun-09-11 03:30 PM |
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Thanks for that. |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 04:40 PM |
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+1 nt |
MikeMc |
Jun-09-11 07:51 PM |
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Your link is not accurate. Ed. is the official abbreviation. |
Hangingon |
Jun-09-11 08:31 AM |
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I listed acronyms. They are correct. |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 08:47 AM |
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BTW... |
chervilant |
Jun-09-11 11:03 AM |
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The only person describing it as a SWAT team is the homeowner. |
Nailzberg |
Jun-08-11 08:36 PM |
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What else do you call 15 armed uniformed men who break down a door |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-11 08:51 PM |
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Sole source of that description is the guy who lied to a reporter. |
Nailzberg |
Jun-08-11 08:53 PM |
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You don't have to believe any of it. |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-11 08:58 PM |
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If most of DU is defending it - we are all fucked. Remember those guns belong to the last winner.... |
nomb |
Jun-08-11 08:57 PM |
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+1 |
Maat |
Jun-09-11 02:51 PM |
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I'm guessing that the 27 shotguns in the OP were for random number generation.. |
Fumesucker |
Jun-08-11 08:52 PM |
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27 shotguns over 13 field offices is not that many. |
Nailzberg |
Jun-08-11 09:09 PM |
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"Shotguns are also used to breach doors, padlocks, and safes." |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-11 09:18 PM |
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Every shotgun I've seen in a warrant raid has been loaded for breach. |
Nailzberg |
Jun-08-11 09:25 PM |
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"Carbines are the preferred long gun if you're intent is shooting people." |
Occulus |
Jun-08-11 09:33 PM |
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My lack of outrage is because I am highly doubtful it occurred that way. |
Nailzberg |
Jun-09-11 12:01 AM |
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Another DU gun expert. Maybe you know ben Ez... |
MikeMc |
Jun-09-11 07:54 PM |
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I am not claiming expertise. I am just claiming outrage. |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-11 09:38 PM |
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A sad and amazing argument. |
truedelphi |
Jun-10-11 11:33 PM |
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Those are some badass motherfucking accountants and economists - with rams, guns & bodyarmour |
nomb |
Jun-08-11 08:53 PM |
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...... |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-11 10:59 PM |
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The homeowner's neighbors describe it just like that, too. |
mikeytherat |
Jun-09-11 09:49 AM |
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I hope he didn't steal #2 pencils |
Horse with no Name |
Jun-08-11 08:40 PM |
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Well, apparently most here now do not think it is ridiculous. |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-11 08:52 PM |
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i saw that other thread |
Horse with no Name |
Jun-08-11 08:55 PM |
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Hunting class? |
mmonk |
Jun-08-11 09:21 PM |
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Anybody who thinks this is ok, has a screw loose. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Jun-09-11 12:14 AM |
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I believe Carter established the department's OIG. (nt) |
Robb |
Jun-09-11 09:35 AM |
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W F E -- Pgh. Public schools cops have guns |
MikeMc |
Jun-09-11 08:00 PM |
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k&r |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-09-11 02:11 AM |
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Kay & Arghhhhh... |
Plucketeer |
Jun-09-11 07:55 AM |
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Local police have no authority to exercise a federal warrant. (nt) |
Robb |
Jun-09-11 09:19 AM |
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When I myself applied for student loans 20 years ago |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-09-11 11:17 AM |
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Good point |
chervilant |
Jun-09-11 11:30 AM |
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Yeah but, you signed off on it, so you could eat and go to class |
MikeMc |
Jun-09-11 08:03 PM |
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I also went to mandatory meetings where we were told what would happen if we defaulted. |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-09-11 08:48 PM |
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I'm with you and Mad all the way, Star. |
MikeMc |
Jun-09-11 09:20 PM |
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Two pertinent quotes |
MikeMc |
Jun-14-11 08:57 AM |
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Littering |
slackmaster |
Jun-09-11 07:56 AM |
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Arne Duncan's named a new head to the Enforcement Division. |
rug |
Jun-09-11 07:58 AM |
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seems as if they were replacements so this doesn't seem like anything new or nefarious |
maddezmom |
Jun-09-11 08:02 AM |
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I guess they always needed shotguns in that department. |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 08:54 AM |
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usually when search warrants are executed people are armed |
maddezmom |
Jun-09-11 09:07 AM |
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We should breathe easier now knowing we are safer. |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 09:13 AM |
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it's the same anytime a search warrant is executed...law enforcement is involved |
maddezmom |
Jun-09-11 09:18 AM |
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Aren't we lucky that education dept has so much power now. |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 09:28 AM |
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not sure what you mean about now as they've long had these powers |
maddezmom |
Jun-09-11 09:30 AM |
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I understand my first thought |
gejohnston |
Jun-10-11 10:41 AM |
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Ever notice just how much money is thrown at law enforcement? |
Bandit |
Jun-09-11 08:52 AM |
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Of course there are times when you are arresting or investigating people for fraud that you may need |
RB TexLa |
Jun-09-11 09:03 AM |
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New headline from Ch 10 from Stockton..."DOE raids Stockton home as part of fraud investigation" |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 09:04 AM |
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You understand they were *replacement* shotguns, right? |
Robb |
Jun-09-11 09:13 AM |
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Oh, yes, I understand fully what is going on. |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 09:27 AM |
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You said upthread you were unclear on the details. |
Robb |
Jun-09-11 09:30 AM |
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You don't get nuance, I fear. |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 09:37 AM |
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Wow, so you want to make it about me. |
Robb |
Jun-09-11 09:39 AM |
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No, I simply said you did not recognize the nuance I used. |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 09:43 AM |
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I suppose the notion is that, unfettered by the board rules, |
Robb |
Jun-09-11 09:49 AM |
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Jun-09-11 08:43 PM |
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Whoops. Sorry for my controversial opinion. I'll never bad-mouth you two again.... NT |
MikeMc |
Jun-12-11 05:33 PM |
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And what is supposed to be wrong with this action? Do you support defrauding the federal |
RB TexLa |
Jun-09-11 09:32 AM |
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Everything is just fine. |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 09:37 AM |
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Isn't that a Bowie song from 'Earthling'? NT |
MikeMc |
Jun-12-11 05:34 PM |
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O, goodie, |
chervilant |
Jun-09-11 11:23 AM |
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Will do. |
Hangingon |
Jun-09-11 07:34 PM |
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Federal agents execute a search warrant. Big deal. But why didn't the homeowner post his |
msanthrope |
Jun-09-11 11:07 AM |
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Sigh... |
chervilant |
Jun-09-11 11:11 AM |
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So, then the OP had the warrant available when she made her speculations? |
msanthrope |
Jun-09-11 12:12 PM |
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What in the name of creeping purple jebus does the DOE |
hifiguy |
Jun-09-11 11:33 AM |
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The Stockton man has hired a lawyer about "reasonable" search and seizure. |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 11:39 AM |
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He needs a criminal, not civil attorney. 18 USC 371. n/t |
msanthrope |
Jun-09-11 12:54 PM |
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I used to be 12,5 in debt. Now 23 k on one 5 k loan. Never got the degree... |
MikeMc |
Jun-09-11 01:38 PM |
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Maybe they found a bunch of students cheating on their FCAT's. |
Fuddnik |
Jun-09-11 02:08 PM |
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I'm in favor of armed response on MCAT and LSAT cheats... |
MikeMc |
Jun-09-11 09:56 PM |
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K&R |
midnight |
Jun-09-11 02:37 PM |
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WTF? What happened seems wrong on so many levels |
RVN VET |
Jun-09-11 02:49 PM |
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Madfloridian, I have always read |
Duval |
Jun-09-11 03:44 PM |
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Many people love Alter's columns. |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 04:34 PM |
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Truth. |
DFab420 |
Jun-09-11 04:45 PM |
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Wrong. You get + 10,000, Mad. NT. |
MikeMc |
Jun-09-11 09:58 PM |
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First they came for the debtors, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a debtor |
Taverner |
Jun-09-11 05:52 PM |
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Sorry, after you |
Duval |
Jun-09-11 06:48 PM |
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Didn't you post that in another thread about my Alter posts? |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 06:51 PM |
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Actually it was in this very thread. |
madfloridian |
Jun-09-11 08:41 PM |
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either can i. |
barbtries |
Jun-10-11 12:41 PM |
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