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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:01 AM
Response to Reply #118
119. It's all relative, isn't it?
In a family of 11, we grew up in Appalachia with an income of less than $1000 per year in some lean years.
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  -What should be the tax rate for income of $100,000 per year? kentuck  Jun-07-11 04:02 PM   #0 
  - maybe we need more upper income brackets..like over 1 million  angstlessk   Jun-07-11 04:06 PM   #1 
  - I think all tax rates should revert to what they were before GWB assumed the presidency.  Lasher   Jun-07-11 04:07 PM   #2 
  - I'm with you Lasher,  safeinOhio   Jun-07-11 04:35 PM   #9 
  - I'm having a big problem forgiving Obama for having extended the Bush tax cuts in December.  Lasher   Jun-07-11 07:51 PM   #42 
  - yes!  JAnthony   Jun-07-11 08:12 PM   #50 
  - Doing so would balance the budget in a few years  Avant Guardian   Jun-08-11 10:20 AM   #91 
     - Thanks for the excellent graphics. Do you have a link to your source?  Lasher   Jun-08-11 01:20 PM   #101 
  - Here are some thoughts:  damntexdem   Jun-07-11 04:11 PM   #3 
  - 25% of 100,000 is a lot of that income.  Zoeisright   Jun-07-11 04:17 PM   #4 
  - 30% of my less than $100,000 is a lot of money I have to do without too...  JuniperLea   Jun-07-11 04:24 PM   #6 
  - Not how tax rates work  Spike89   Jun-07-11 05:04 PM   #11 
  - According to this graph, 98.3% make less than $250,000  kentuck   Jun-07-11 05:12 PM   #15 
  - Interest income is taxed EXACTLY as other income  dems_rightnow   Jun-07-11 06:45 PM   #33 
  - Yeah, I was wrong and oversimplified  Spike89   Jun-08-11 02:30 PM   #104 
  - You are confused.  Obamaforthewin   Jun-07-11 08:42 PM   #64 
     - yup, oversimplified and chose the wrong term  Spike89   Jun-08-11 02:32 PM   #105 
  - it should depend on where you live  formernaderite   Jun-07-11 06:49 PM   #35 
  - These are tax thresholds.......as it is with all taxation schedules...  JAnthony   Jun-07-11 08:15 PM   #53 
  - But you only pay the 25% on anything over $25,000  cameozalaznick   Jun-07-11 11:21 PM   #79 
  - and life circumstances  Carolina   Jun-08-11 12:23 PM   #98 
  - Holy crap. 40% on $250K?  FLPanhandle   Jun-07-11 05:08 PM   #13 
     - You're paying 35% now  REP   Jun-07-11 05:37 PM   #20 
     - We pay probably 30% after deductions and all.  FLPanhandle   Jun-07-11 05:46 PM   #21 
        - "$250K isn't rich nowadays."  boppers   Jun-07-11 07:54 PM   #45 
        - The truly rich have more than the rest of us combined nt  FLPanhandle   Jun-07-11 08:19 PM   #56 
           - ROFL  snooper2   Jun-08-11 09:43 AM   #83 
              - *sigh*  FLPanhandle   Jun-08-11 12:14 PM   #95 
                 - I used to beg on the streets. To buy food.  boppers   Jun-09-11 05:14 AM   #118 
                    - It's all relative, isn't it?  kentuck   Jun-09-11 06:01 AM   #119 
        - Baloney. 250k a year is plenty fucking rich. nt  Codeine   Jun-07-11 08:21 PM   #58 
        - Yes, yes it is.  Marrah_G   Jun-08-11 10:18 AM   #88 
           - Wow. Infighting, that's what got us to where we are now.  kick-ass-bob   Jun-08-11 12:18 PM   #96 
     - Why not?  Skink   Jun-07-11 06:27 PM   #28 
     - 250K isn't rich  FLPanhandle   Jun-07-11 06:39 PM   #30 
        - Yes 250k is rich  Marrah_G   Jun-08-11 10:19 AM   #89 
           - no. this is not wealthy.  kick-ass-bob   Jun-08-11 12:20 PM   #97 
     - A net rate of 40% is insane. A net rate between 25% and 30% would  bluestate10   Jun-07-11 08:03 PM   #48 
     - Please see my reply to #4 upthread...  cameozalaznick   Jun-07-11 11:26 PM   #80 
     - even if you DID have to pay 40% you would be left with 150,000  Marrah_G   Jun-08-11 10:17 AM   #87 
  - People that earn more should pay higher marginal tax rates so that  bluestate10   Jun-07-11 04:18 PM   #5 
  - Zero  notesdev   Jun-07-11 04:25 PM   #7 
  - The problem with consumption taxes is they aren't progressive  Astrad   Jun-07-11 05:14 PM   #16 
  - If you exempt necessities they are  notesdev   Jun-07-11 06:18 PM   #22 
     - The rich would end up paying even less.  Incitatus   Jun-07-11 07:52 PM   #44 
     - A lot of that ends up tax free due to exemptions  notesdev   Jun-07-11 09:37 PM   #71 
        - There needs to be a lot of changes to the tax code.  Incitatus   Jun-07-11 10:38 PM   #75 
     - no they would not be  hfojvt   Jun-07-11 08:12 PM   #51 
  - Many people don't make enough to "consume"...  kentuck   Jun-07-11 05:15 PM   #17 
  - Yep  notesdev   Jun-07-11 05:19 PM   #18 
  - Word. Income taxes are designed to keep poor & lower income from obtaining wealth.  Army of Dawgness   Jun-07-11 08:00 PM   #47 
     - The problem I see with consumption tax...  kentuck   Jun-07-11 08:20 PM   #57 
     - The same could be said for an income tax also.  Army of Dawgness   Jun-07-11 08:29 PM   #61 
     - However...  kentuck   Jun-07-11 09:50 PM   #74 
     - Actually, consumption taxes are much more stable than income taxes  taught_me_patience   Jun-08-11 04:44 PM   #113 
     - "Income taxes are designed to keep poor & lower income from obtaining wealth."  kentuck   Jun-07-11 09:36 PM   #69 
        - Meh. Let me rephrase.  Army of Dawgness   Jun-07-11 10:46 PM   #76 
           - What would the rate have to be?  kentuck   Jun-07-11 11:14 PM   #78 
              - Well.......  Army of Dawgness   Jun-07-11 11:28 PM   #81 
  - Here are my answers  taught_me_patience   Jun-07-11 04:32 PM   #8 
  - Here is a link comparing taxcuts and deficits - Dems and Repubs  kentuck   Jun-07-11 04:41 PM   #10 
  - $100,001 & up, 100%  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-07-11 05:06 PM   #12 
  - You mean, time to set fire to the playing field. nt  Dreamer Tatum   Jun-07-11 06:19 PM   #23 
  - Insanity! Pure, unadulterated Insanity!  Motown_Johnny   Jun-07-11 06:26 PM   #26 
     - delete  kentuck   Jun-07-11 06:29 PM   #29 
     - Happens to the best of us. nt  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-07-11 06:53 PM   #37 
     - Got it covered.  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-07-11 06:49 PM   #34 
        - impossible  Motown_Johnny   Jun-07-11 07:47 PM   #40 
           - $100,000 should buy a lot more than it currently does.  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-07-11 08:13 PM   #52 
              - but people won't, there is no longer any compensation for it  Motown_Johnny   Jun-07-11 09:19 PM   #66 
              - I don't think you're understanding.  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-08-11 09:37 AM   #82 
              - 100K "should buy"...  kick-ass-bob   Jun-08-11 09:57 AM   #84 
                 - Should the the directors of a university get paid $500k a year causing tuition to soar  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-08-11 10:49 AM   #93 
                    - OK - since we go anecdotal here...  kick-ass-bob   Jun-08-11 11:55 AM   #94 
                       - You must be out west or in the north.  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-08-11 02:11 PM   #102 
                          - who said anything about entry level? And no, I'm in NC.  kick-ass-bob   Jun-08-11 02:26 PM   #103 
                             - Is money the only reason you do what you do?  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-08-11 07:22 PM   #114 
  - we want to start with a 4.6% increase, from 35% to 39.6% (the Clinton rate)  Motown_Johnny   Jun-07-11 05:10 PM   #14 
  - up to 30k  backwoodsbob   Jun-07-11 05:25 PM   #19 
  - Why should up to 30k pay zero?  taught_me_patience   Jun-07-11 06:21 PM   #24 
  - That's the fundamental problem with American taxes.  Xithras   Jun-08-11 12:42 PM   #99 
  - 10-12k maybe. But 30k is a full fledged salary in these parts. nt  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-07-11 06:54 PM   #38 
  - People who are well off need to quit playing poor.  JVS   Jun-07-11 06:22 PM   #25 
  - We are trying to sell our boat...  kentuck   Jun-07-11 06:27 PM   #27 
     - +! That's the same old song, innit?  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-07-11 08:18 PM   #54 
  - It's not the $100K to $250K that are ctitical...  JHB   Jun-07-11 06:43 PM   #31 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-07-11 06:43 PM   #32 
  - Because the $5k bite hurts the $50k person a LOT more than the $25k bite hurts the $250k person.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-07-11 06:50 PM   #36 
  - I suggest income taxes on "55 minus 10"...  JHB   Jun-07-11 07:06 PM   #39 
  - "Shouldn't everyone have to pay something?"  boppers   Jun-07-11 07:50 PM   #41 
  - Revert back to the brackets under Clinton  B-Stupid   Jun-07-11 07:52 PM   #43 
  - 0 percent to 50K a year, 20% income over 50k  Incitatus   Jun-07-11 08:00 PM   #46 
  - $0.00  George Wythe   Jun-07-11 08:10 PM   #49 
  - Another idea worthy of exploration. nt  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-07-11 08:19 PM   #55 
  - But what are these tariffs, and where does that money come from?  kick-ass-bob   Jun-08-11 10:06 AM   #85 
     - Yep, tariffs are not a good idea, especially in poor economic times  IndyPragmatist   Jun-08-11 10:21 AM   #92 
     - In theory, I support the concept of free-trade. Free trade would be fine  George Wythe   Jun-08-11 04:26 PM   #109 
     - It is really no different than the taxes that localities implement on tourists.  George Wythe   Jun-08-11 04:31 PM   #110 
  - "Shouldn't everyone have to pay something?" Yes, but some don't - if you  Obamanaut   Jun-07-11 08:24 PM   #59 
  - No, actually.  JackRiddler   Jun-07-11 08:38 PM   #63 
  - $1milliion - 45%, $1billion-49%  elleng   Jun-07-11 08:25 PM   #60 
  - Just about zero. That should be the full, lone exemption, no other loopholes.  JackRiddler   Jun-07-11 08:36 PM   #62 
  - First, everybody should file as single.  JVS   Jun-07-11 09:18 PM   #65 
  - What would be the tax for this guy?  jtuck004   Jun-07-11 09:29 PM   #68 
     - Use the lower chart that I provided to figure it out.  JVS   Jun-07-11 09:38 PM   #72 
     - That guy? We should be talking imprisonment & full clawback of everything he's worth.  JackRiddler   Jun-08-11 07:40 PM   #115 
  - I think it's fair to say that an individual who earns $100,000/yr already pays close to a 50% tax  Vinee   Jun-07-11 09:24 PM   #67 
  - Exactly  Carolina   Jun-08-11 12:46 PM   #100 
  - Agreed.  JackRiddler   Jun-08-11 07:50 PM   #117 
  - Nobody earning less than the poverty line should pay income tax  OnlinePoker   Jun-07-11 09:36 PM   #70 
  - See my post above.  JVS   Jun-07-11 09:40 PM   #73 
     - What breaks?  OnlinePoker   Jun-07-11 11:02 PM   #77 
  - The difference between tax on 250, 000 and 25000 is this....  Marrah_G   Jun-08-11 10:13 AM   #86 
  - I really don't think it's smart to go above 60%  IndyPragmatist   Jun-08-11 10:19 AM   #90 
  - Your example is actually backward!  Spike89   Jun-08-11 02:59 PM   #106 
     - Why do have so many billion dollar businesses?  kentuck   Jun-08-11 03:28 PM   #107 
        - Are you responding to my post?  Spike89   Jun-08-11 04:13 PM   #108 
           - Thanks for your comments.  kentuck   Jun-08-11 04:40 PM   #112 
  - You miss something critical. And the GOP is THRILLED that you do.  JoePhilly   Jun-08-11 04:35 PM   #111 
  - Why Are You Punishing Me?  ProfessorGAC   Jun-08-11 07:45 PM   #116 
  - $50,000/yr = 0% per individual, +1% per each add'l $25,000 capped at 50% - w/ NO exemptions  Kip Humphrey   Jun-09-11 07:22 AM   #120 
 

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