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95. Your quote: "The artist will be the American Indians of the Twentieth Century" --
points again to where we need more discussion of the ideas we follow and where they

are leading us --

My list failed to mention "builders" in general -- every creative pursuit builds something --

and certainly our artists and actors and witers help us to see ourselves and our societies --

challenging us to reenvision ourselves and our futures --

and its why they pose a fatal threat to capitalism/elites --

And it's why the right wing always want to move budgets which destroy our libraries and

liberal circulation of materials and knowledge --

it's all and always a threat to their narrow and mean-spirited and suicidal concepts!!


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  -I've noticed a common meme among my Republican friends. Serve The Servants  Jun-04-11 11:14 PM   #0 
  - Quite True, Sir  The Magistrate   Jun-04-11 11:29 PM   #1 
  - Me! Me! Me! Me!  DBoon   Jun-04-11 11:31 PM   #2 
  - yep that's exactly what most of them are like  AlanCranston   Jun-04-11 11:34 PM   #5 
  - Ironically  DenverDad   Jun-04-11 11:59 PM   #10 
  - Sure does. Every person that I know that is republican only thinks of  bluestate10   Jun-05-11 08:01 PM   #105 
  - I too am tired of my taxes going to welfare. Corporate welfare!  OffWithTheirHeads   Jun-04-11 11:31 PM   #3 
  - Well that is the problem....................  Knight Hawk   Jun-05-11 02:14 PM   #71 
  - You're no doubt right, there are deadbeats and thieves  Jackpine Radical   Jun-05-11 08:37 PM   #108 
  - I too am tired of my taxes going to welfare. Corporate welfare!  AlbertCat   Jun-05-11 11:00 PM   #118 
  - FDR style Federal Make work programs  ErikJ   Jun-04-11 11:32 PM   #4 
  - I don't think you'll find anyone who supports paying someone not to work  Serve The Servants   Jun-04-11 11:49 PM   #9 
     - I'd actually support paying people not to work.  JoeyT   Jun-05-11 03:23 AM   #25 
     - Guaranteed Minimum Income?  Serve The Servants   Jun-05-11 03:41 AM   #26 
        - I think a few countries have one.  JoeyT   Jun-05-11 12:12 PM   #56 
        - actually  oldhippydude   Jun-05-11 12:44 PM   #63 
        - Even NIXON ... repeat NIXON ... proposed something like that -- guaranteed annual wage ...  defendandprotect   Jun-05-11 03:46 PM   #78 
        - This was first proposed  sulphurdunn   Jun-05-11 04:07 PM   #87 
        - Interesting --  defendandprotect   Jun-05-11 04:15 PM   #89 
        - Nixon (yes, that Nixon) floated the idea at one time  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-05-11 06:08 PM   #97 
        - Milton Friedman  bigmonkey   Jun-05-11 10:27 PM   #116 
     - What's wrong with guaranteeing an income to the elderly and  lunatica   Jun-05-11 07:11 AM   #34 
     - The argument is...  Cid_B   Jun-05-11 08:18 AM   #40 
     - If People Are To Save, Sir, They Must Be Paid Enough their Living Expenses To Do So  The Magistrate   Jun-05-11 11:44 AM   #50 
     - Also look at the destruction of pension programs ....those who worked have often lost pensions ....  defendandprotect   Jun-05-11 04:07 PM   #85 
     - You are presuming what "work" is -- is it about doing capitalism's dirty work ....?  defendandprotect   Jun-05-11 04:00 PM   #84 
     - Thanks D & P.  truedelphi   Jun-05-11 04:55 PM   #92 
     - Your quote: "The artist will be the American Indians of the Twentieth Century" --  defendandprotect   Jun-05-11 05:33 PM   #95 
     - also, even those who were smart and able to save have had to use their retirement and savings  ejpoeta   Jun-05-11 06:05 PM   #96 
     - Most people  sulphurdunn   Jun-05-11 06:27 PM   #98 
     - K/R for all of your post, but especially this ....  defendandprotect   Jun-05-11 03:49 PM   #79 
     - Tell them they are not good Americans because good American pay their  Maraya1969   Jun-05-11 10:41 AM   #49 
     - We are the greatest country.....................  Knight Hawk   Jun-05-11 02:23 PM   #73 
     - I thought people would know that I was speaking in their language for a point.  Maraya1969   Jun-05-11 09:45 PM   #114 
     - Actually, I'd prefer that we charge capitalists for their destruction -- 3 strikes and out--!!  defendandprotect   Jun-05-11 04:12 PM   #88 
        - See my post #114  Maraya1969   Jun-05-11 09:46 PM   #115 
     - No need to apologize for your rant. You're correct....  truth2power   Jun-05-11 12:00 PM   #53 
     - They've paid farmers not to grow certain crops.  L0oniX   Jun-05-11 12:05 PM   #54 
     - I support paying the disabled, mentally ill and mothers on maternity leave not to work  Lorien   Jun-05-11 12:10 PM   #55 
     - I certainly would support women with children and no child care ...  defendandprotect   Jun-05-11 03:38 PM   #77 
  - Absolutely. nt  blondeatlast   Jun-04-11 11:35 PM   #6 
  - The flip side of this  lolly   Jun-04-11 11:35 PM   #7 
  - "MY Tax dollars"  ismnotwasm   Jun-04-11 11:47 PM   #8 
  - Ask them to calculate what percentage of their gross income  Mariana   Jun-05-11 12:06 AM   #11 
  - UNITED We Stand, DIVIDED We Fall, motherfuckers.  FarLeftFist   Jun-05-11 12:08 AM   #12 
  - Yep, greedy, short-sighted, stupid, mean, and judgmental.  Zoeisright   Jun-05-11 12:25 AM   #13 
  - Reminds me of an episode of "All in the Family"  customerserviceguy   Jun-05-11 12:39 AM   #14 
  - I'm enjoying the reruns a great deal. Archie sounds so much like "tea baggers"  mzmolly   Jun-05-11 12:42 AM   #16 
     - It's the same personality  customerserviceguy   Jun-05-11 01:34 PM   #66 
        - and, before that  NewJeffCT   Jun-05-11 03:54 PM   #81 
  - I wish I didn't have to fund wars/state sanctioned murder.  mzmolly   Jun-05-11 12:40 AM   #15 
  - +1 nt.  Lorien   Jun-05-11 11:57 AM   #52 
  - +1 --  defendandprotect   Jun-05-11 04:23 PM   #90 
  - My older brothers favorite meme is...  underseasurveyor   Jun-05-11 12:47 AM   #17 
  - Just a hunch  Serve The Servants   Jun-05-11 12:59 AM   #19 
  - No he isnt a golfer  underseasurveyor   Jun-05-11 01:06 AM   #20 
     - Oh, OK  Serve The Servants   Jun-05-11 01:13 AM   #22 
        - He definitely lives beyond his means  underseasurveyor   Jun-05-11 01:35 AM   #24 
  - You should be  JackInGreen   Jun-05-11 12:42 PM   #62 
  - It's all about THEM, the rest of us could rot all they care.  Odin2005   Jun-05-11 12:58 AM   #18 
  - Boy that is the truth!  underseasurveyor   Jun-05-11 01:07 AM   #21 
  - Yup.  Serve The Servants   Jun-05-11 01:27 AM   #23 
     - Actually, the ones I know WOULD continue to yammer.  JHB   Jun-05-11 07:59 AM   #38 
  - Ask them why they think it's OK that their tax dollars go to enrich...  Scuba   Jun-05-11 05:37 AM   #27 
  - No! All of those dividends go to widows and orphans!  Patiod   Jun-05-11 09:06 AM   #46 
     - I've hear that too. I don't think many buy it when faced with facts. n/t  Scuba   Jun-05-11 09:16 AM   #47 
     - OK, my head just exploded!  NICO9000   Jun-05-11 06:50 PM   #99 
  - Thank decades of Bait-and-Switch statistics and propaganda  JHB   Jun-05-11 06:16 AM   #28 
  - yep, and it ALL goes to 'welfare'. roads, bridges, police, military, etc, apparently just magically  KG   Jun-05-11 06:16 AM   #29 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-05-11 06:27 AM   #30 
  - I too had to stop and think about the idea of "republican friends".  mwb970   Jun-05-11 07:56 AM   #37 
  - I don't have a litmus test for friendship. If I make friends with someone I don't stop first and ask  totodeinhere   Jun-05-11 09:09 PM   #111 
     - What do you do when your new friend rants about "ObamaCare" and Kenya?  mwb970   Jun-06-11 06:53 AM   #119 
        - Life may be short but I try to find the time to discuss important issues with anyone.  totodeinhere   Jun-06-11 09:41 AM   #120 
           - Let me know how that goes.  mwb970   Jun-06-11 12:47 PM   #121 
  - The Tea Party is easy to avoid. The casual idiots are harder.  Patiod   Jun-05-11 09:17 AM   #48 
     - One of the stylists at the salon I go to is a hard core republican  Mrsadkins9399   Jun-05-11 01:57 PM   #70 
        - Thank God for my gay-activist hair stylist!!!  Patiod   Jun-05-11 02:45 PM   #74 
  - Their positions are premised on a false comparison.  The Wizard   Jun-05-11 06:53 AM   #31 
  - All their failings are the fault of, you guessed it, welfare queens  lunatica   Jun-05-11 06:59 AM   #32 
  - Selfish martyrdom  baldguy   Jun-05-11 07:00 AM   #33 
  - Yeah, victimhood plays well for them  lunatica   Jun-05-11 07:14 AM   #35 
  - Sadly, republicans are unable to feel empathy for others.  mwb970   Jun-05-11 07:52 AM   #36 
  - Since we have to borrow for the taxcuts and the wars....  kentuck   Jun-05-11 08:03 AM   #39 
  - Here's another post on the same topic, by me, on Republicans  XanaDUer   Jun-05-11 08:20 AM   #41 
  - There's your problem...  Hubert Flottz   Jun-05-11 08:20 AM   #42 
  - Whatever money they have they did not "earn" it on their own.  Tennessee Gal   Jun-05-11 08:26 AM   #43 
  - Not a single ass ONE of them gets the concept of "pooling" . . .  HughBeaumont   Jun-05-11 08:37 AM   #44 
  - The difference... so I hear...  Cid_B   Jun-05-11 02:20 PM   #72 
  - I have one of those "friends" too! Verbatim!  archiemo   Jun-05-11 08:39 AM   #45 
  - Yep, I've heard that. They also think that 90% of our taxes go to social welfare programs  Lorien   Jun-05-11 11:55 AM   #51 
  - Republican and friends is an oxymoron.  L0oniX   Jun-05-11 12:12 PM   #57 
  - Yup - it's the "I've got mine so fuck you" crowd at work.  Initech   Jun-05-11 12:13 PM   #58 
  - They've been saying this for  femrap   Jun-05-11 12:29 PM   #59 
  - Excellent post Serve the Server. I've been hearing that stuff long before the 'bagger movement  Populist_Prole   Jun-05-11 12:31 PM   #60 
  - I just throw it back at them.........  W T F   Jun-05-11 12:42 PM   #61 
  - Another common theme...  JazzQuipster   Jun-05-11 12:59 PM   #64 
  - At every opportunity I call them "tax whiners"..  Bigmack   Jun-05-11 01:43 PM   #67 
  - I've seen this BMW wagon around town a few times where I live  NewJeffCT   Jun-05-11 03:57 PM   #83 
  - Was watching the news this AM..  aka-chmeee   Jun-05-11 01:02 PM   #65 
  - "I'll pay my taxes for people in need. You pay for corporations on welfare and war."  Hamlette   Jun-05-11 01:45 PM   #68 
  - and the ironic thing is, if something happens to them  Mrsadkins9399   Jun-05-11 01:51 PM   #69 
  - Maybe we should make social programs optional.  Capitalocracy   Jun-05-11 03:19 PM   #75 
  - As I recall Welfare in the budget, it was something like .015% ....  defendandprotect   Jun-05-11 03:33 PM   #76 
  - K&R. nt  DesertFlower   Jun-05-11 03:52 PM   #80 
  - self delete.  DesertFlower   Jun-05-11 03:55 PM   #82 
  - Very rethug of them. When I was raising my family, including a severely  jwirr   Jun-05-11 04:07 PM   #86 
  - my friend is a conservative republican. when  DesertFlower   Jun-05-11 04:29 PM   #91 
  - Most GOP don't believe in New Testament ideals of caring for the poor.  AtomicKitten   Jun-05-11 05:08 PM   #93 
  - You are exactly right on this.  Enthusiast   Jun-05-11 05:24 PM   #94 
  - sick  larwdem   Jun-05-11 06:57 PM   #100 
  - Even Bill Maher, who thinks he is explaining it really well,  truedelphi   Jun-05-11 07:04 PM   #101 
  - A Particularly Nasty Variant is the "Ayn Rand Objectivist"  reACTIONary   Jun-05-11 07:09 PM   #102 
  - This is the way.. convince the public to vote against their own best interest....  lib2DaBone   Jun-05-11 07:22 PM   #103 
  - Well you just decribed the difference between a republican and a  southernyankeebelle   Jun-05-11 07:58 PM   #104 
  - I know one in the Army who bitches about taxes and socialized medicine  rury   Jun-05-11 08:14 PM   #106 
  - Tell them that more than half of that pays for the military and  RoccoR5955   Jun-05-11 08:36 PM   #107 
  - I had diversity training at a pretty progressive company a couple  brewens   Jun-05-11 08:46 PM   #109 
  - If whites are the group that have the most on welfare, why don't we have  totodeinhere   Jun-05-11 09:17 PM   #112 
  - Must be the latest memo from headquarters  liberal N proud   Jun-05-11 08:46 PM   #110 
  - Apparently forgetting that they would benefit from equitable taxes for the rich.  Deep13   Jun-05-11 09:45 PM   #113 
  - How many of these morons do you think were on welfare at one point  undertakerlives   Jun-05-11 10:34 PM   #117 

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