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| 63. Make corruption illegal again. /nt |
| -There is only one thing that can unfuck the economy. Only one. |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 12:16 PM |
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Yes... and end the wars...rec'd |
panader0 |
Jun-04-11 12:19 PM |
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You need spending on infrastructure to provide jobs for soldiers. |
divvy |
Jun-04-11 12:35 PM |
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Yes, but that would be far cheaper than keeping them at war. nt |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 12:36 PM |
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Instead of "put a man on the moon" lets "find clean renewable energy" to spend on |
divvy |
Jun-04-11 12:59 PM |
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No snark |
Serve The Servants |
Jun-05-11 12:41 AM |
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Cheaper and more cost-effective if focused on post-modern eco-sensible |
Ghost Dog |
Jun-04-11 02:47 PM |
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Improving our infrastructure is an investment in the future |
csziggy |
Jun-04-11 04:39 PM |
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Soldiers have jobs and they don't come from infrastructure |
Bandit |
Jun-05-11 09:44 AM |
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Our military budget is unsustainable. |
think |
Jun-05-11 12:17 PM |
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recommend |
xchrom |
Jun-04-11 12:20 PM |
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If I had 100 recs, I would spend them on this. NT |
Vanje |
Jun-04-11 12:23 PM |
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Exactly. |
hunter |
Jun-04-11 12:25 PM |
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What we need is a jobs bill from the house. This house won't, and are blaming Obama. Congress has |
SugarShack |
Jun-04-11 12:27 PM |
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They had their chance to do it easily |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 12:29 PM |
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Yes. When the time was ripe |
Vanje |
Jun-04-11 12:47 PM |
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Bingo! |
sheldon |
Jun-05-11 02:51 AM |
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+1 |
ooglymoogly |
Jun-05-11 11:04 AM |
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+infinity!!!!! |
BumRushDaShow |
Jun-05-11 06:48 AM |
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And it needs to be real EARNED money at a living wage... |
cascadiance |
Jun-04-11 12:34 PM |
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In it's many manifestations, call it "DEMAND SIDE" economics. |
phiddle |
Jun-04-11 12:41 PM |
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NAAAAAH. Supply Side's enhanced 5% while failing the other 95% for 30 years running. Why stop now? |
HughBeaumont |
Jun-05-11 08:23 AM |
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Bingo. If we raised tax rates on the wealthy to the levels they |
rateyes |
Jun-04-11 12:42 PM |
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you are both right and wrong |
melm00se |
Jun-05-11 08:56 AM |
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I maintain that going to the 90%+ tax rate on all income over a million dollars |
rateyes |
Jun-05-11 05:17 PM |
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like i said before |
melm00se |
Jun-06-11 05:10 AM |
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Don't be silly. Only tax dollars stuffed into the already-bloated Swiss... |
Scuba |
Jun-04-11 01:18 PM |
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Well, that isn't all we need to do, but it's part of what we need to do |
Warpy |
Jun-04-11 01:35 PM |
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What makes anyone think our reps don't already know all this? |
lunatica |
Jun-04-11 01:35 PM |
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Yes, but to a large extent, imo, they don't know, they are ignorant, |
elleng |
Jun-04-11 01:56 PM |
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Yes, but don't confuse them with facts. |
elleng |
Jun-04-11 01:53 PM |
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We also need to "unfuck" the Three Branches of Gov't |
fredamae |
Jun-04-11 02:06 PM |
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A 10 Year Plan for a State of the Art, High Speed Rail System, |
bvar22 |
Jun-04-11 03:17 PM |
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Cool. Now |
ProSense |
Jun-04-11 03:33 PM |
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WWFDRD? |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 04:15 PM |
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"What would FDR do? " |
ProSense |
Jun-04-11 04:24 PM |
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"What did he do in 1937 when unemployment climbed back up" |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 05:14 PM |
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"And it climbed back up to 12.5%, not 20%" |
ProSense |
Jun-04-11 05:33 PM |
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It's wrong. |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 06:07 PM |
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Hmmm? |
ProSense |
Jun-04-11 06:26 PM |
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vs. Obama, where true unemployment's stuck at almost 20% for years |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 06:32 PM |
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What was |
ProSense |
Jun-04-11 06:44 PM |
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Unemployment was counted correctly during FDR's tenure |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 08:49 PM |
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It |
ProSense |
Jun-04-11 09:08 PM |
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lol, yeah taco bell jobs |
me b zola |
Jun-05-11 01:24 AM |
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One glance at the WH graph on the budget tells me that 40% of my tax dollars... |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-04-11 05:20 PM |
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Social Security took in $100 billion more than it paid out last year |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 06:09 PM |
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So one would think there should be another graph on the WH site showing revenues... |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-04-11 06:31 PM |
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How convenient, indeed |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 06:36 PM |
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And before he took office gave a speech about reducing the deficit ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-04-11 07:14 PM |
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Well, that and a lot of "D"s are actually milquetoast Landreiu-esque "R"s. |
HughBeaumont |
Jun-05-11 08:20 AM |
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Kucinich has had an infrastructure bill for over a decade ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-04-11 05:05 PM |
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Did it |
ProSense |
Jun-04-11 05:24 PM |
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It has been relevant for over a decade, late 2010 is a little late. n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-04-11 07:03 PM |
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Late 2010 |
ProSense |
Jun-04-11 07:08 PM |
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Kucinich thought it should have been a major part of the stimulus plan... |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-04-11 07:18 PM |
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"back in early 2009 " |
ProSense |
Jun-04-11 07:29 PM |
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Thought the "WGA" and Medicare for All would help put our country ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-04-11 05:00 PM |
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The Federal govt should go into the oil business and make every citizen a shareholder. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-04-11 05:11 PM |
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Giving money to the rich when there is excess supply IS THE SOURCE OF INFLATION!! |
on point |
Jun-04-11 05:32 PM |
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It's called "The Velocity of Money". |
Fuddnik |
Jun-04-11 05:34 PM |
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it is unbelievable |
mimitabby |
Jun-04-11 05:41 PM |
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The tax system is horrid but the middle class only shoulder about 30% of the total burden |
madville |
Jun-04-11 05:44 PM |
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Except that Social Security is currently used as income tax |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 06:14 PM |
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If the top 1% has 50 % of wealth and income, perhaps they should pay 50% of the taxes! |
on point |
Jun-04-11 07:35 PM |
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I'm taking inspiration from a quote by a different Roosevelt today. |
Chan790 |
Jun-04-11 05:52 PM |
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Can you imagine Obama ever saying that! |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 06:10 PM |
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Well, not |
ProSense |
Jun-04-11 06:55 PM |
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In your link, which part was the attack? |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 10:59 PM |
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Rich people don't create jobs. Corporations don't create jobs. Small businesses don't |
MsPithy |
Jun-04-11 06:12 PM |
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Bingo! Exactly correct. A simple truth. A great slogan. |
Maineman |
Jun-05-11 08:16 AM |
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K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Jun-04-11 06:35 PM |
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How 'bout McCain / Palin?... |
SidDithers |
Jun-04-11 07:10 PM |
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I often hear the term "consumer confidence" when talking about |
obxhead |
Jun-04-11 07:21 PM |
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Just wook at that smile. |
lonestarnot |
Jun-04-11 07:33 PM |
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That was the signing of Social Security nt |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 08:32 PM |
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We need the Democratic Party/elected officials to GIVE UP CORPORATE $$$$ .... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Jun-04-11 08:25 PM |
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we haven't tried ending the bush tax cuts. |
pansypoo53219 |
Jun-04-11 08:26 PM |
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Social or other spending has little to nothing to do w/ the economy mess |
ProfessionalLeftist |
Jun-04-11 08:30 PM |
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Make corruption illegal again. /nt |
dorkulon |
Jun-04-11 08:44 PM |
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Have you seen Boehner's |
ProSense |
Jun-04-11 09:18 PM |
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The White House and many elected Democrats fundamentally agree with Boehner |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-04-11 11:14 PM |
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That's what we need alright. The only way we can get out of this mess. nt |
Auntie Bush |
Jun-04-11 09:46 PM |
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K&R |
midnight |
Jun-04-11 10:17 PM |
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Scream it from the montains |
maxpower |
Jun-04-11 10:35 PM |
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Sadly, Manny, we have no real, strong, principled leader. |
Stinky The Clown |
Jun-04-11 10:47 PM |
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It's quite simple, but it will never happen |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jun-04-11 10:54 PM |
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We can have a mandatory wage increase for employers of over 1,000 people. |
grahamhgreen |
Jun-04-11 11:40 PM |
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A simple principle is being ignored: |
napoleon_in_rags |
Jun-04-11 11:55 PM |
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First step to an economic recovery..... |
democrank |
Jun-05-11 01:01 AM |
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Great point, cutting fed spending now will drain us of the momentum we got after Bush left the WH. |
Major Hogwash |
Jun-05-11 01:41 AM |
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K&R n/t |
DeSwiss |
Jun-05-11 03:30 AM |
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STOP.PIMPING.JOBS.OFF.OVERSEAS |
Skittles |
Jun-05-11 05:24 AM |
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If you want to know the economic |
sulphurdunn |
Jun-05-11 06:46 AM |
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This is so obvious that I can't understand what the problem is |
AllyCat |
Jun-05-11 07:28 AM |
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A 21st Century New Deal and a New GI Bill for All Americans. |
leveymg |
Jun-05-11 07:31 AM |
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K&R |
hulka38 |
Jun-05-11 07:48 AM |
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The Beltway Set doesn't care about us |
FlyByNight |
Jun-05-11 07:51 AM |
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Another up side would be fixing the things that are broken in the US |
Hubert Flottz |
Jun-05-11 08:12 AM |
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biggest obstruction to this: talk radio- here's a petition to stop US unis from supporting RW radio: |
certainot |
Jun-05-11 08:14 AM |
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FDR is one of my Favorite Presidents |
fascisthunter |
Jun-05-11 08:25 AM |
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Obama parrots the fringe-right lie that FDR waited 6 months for the Depression to get worse |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-05-11 09:02 AM |
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He did no such thing. |
ProSense |
Jun-05-11 11:27 AM |
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I don't understand how that mitigates what Obama claims re: FDR |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-05-11 12:14 PM |
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the richest 1% hold 43% of Americas Financial Wealth, 6 times what the Bottom 80% hold at 7%.. >Link |
dogmoma56 |
Jun-05-11 09:17 AM |
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Tax the rich and get the hell out of the Middle East... |
Corruption Winz |
Jun-05-11 09:39 AM |
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We can't do any of the things you suggest . . . |
janet118 |
Jun-05-11 09:45 AM |
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K&R. This will be Obama's test. |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-05-11 10:01 AM |
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Kill supply-side economic theory as the disaster it has been. |
Ikonoklast |
Jun-05-11 10:03 AM |
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Stop this NONSENSE. Congress controls the purse. Only massive popular protests will move congress |
Distant Observer |
Jun-05-11 10:05 AM |
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you assume that they want the economy unfucked |
underpants |
Jun-05-11 10:18 AM |
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#3 will only work if you also have #2 and #4, a subsidization of #3 |
Taverner |
Jun-05-11 10:50 AM |
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Exactly, instead of Hoovering the country, we need to FDR it!!!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Jun-05-11 11:13 AM |
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One simple word... |
slackmaster |
Jun-05-11 11:15 AM |
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I have hope of another way to unfuck this economy |
Jim_Shorts |
Jun-05-11 11:23 AM |
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Massive government spending. |
Deep13 |
Jun-05-11 11:24 AM |
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Pull the plug on capitalism ... |
GeorgeGist |
Jun-05-11 11:38 AM |
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Don't terminate teachers and other public employees |
Kolesar |
Jun-05-11 12:16 PM |
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