Sen. Walter Sobchak
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Sun Jun-05-11 07:04 PM
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| 159. That is far more eloquent that my father puts it, |
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Who to the present day blames every problem in California on the "Okie Motherfuckers"
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| -Every community has its designated zones of idiocy. DUers' hatred of Texas is ours |
Bucky |
Jun-03-11 10:38 AM |
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why single out Texas -- DUers LOVE to bash the South. period. |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Jun-03-11 10:39 AM |
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Don't forget the Mountain West - Idaho in particular |
IDemo |
Jun-03-11 10:42 AM |
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And Arizona with its SB1070 "papers please" law |
QED |
Jun-03-11 10:43 AM |
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Texans |
Never Stop Dancin |
Jun-03-11 10:44 AM |
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and the midwest - basically anything that's not on the coasts or super-urban |
hfojvt |
Jun-03-11 10:50 AM |
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Check your regional voting patterns. Listen to the people that you |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 08:01 AM |
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Here's an example of what the OP is about |
IDemo |
Jun-04-11 09:47 AM |
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You win by taking over local offices, then regional offices, the state offices, |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 12:16 PM |
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It ain't easy... |
GTurck |
Jun-05-11 06:12 AM |
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And Arizona. nt |
blondeatlast |
Jun-03-11 11:05 AM |
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The OP ignores salient points |
HankyDubs |
Jun-03-11 03:50 PM |
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California gave us Reagan & Manson & Scientology & Many finr race riots |
Nevernose |
Jun-04-11 07:49 AM |
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Reagan was from Illinois. Manson was from Ohio. L. Ron Hubbard was from Nebraska. |
Aristus |
Jun-04-11 10:53 AM |
#127 |
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That is far more eloquent that my father puts it, |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Jun-05-11 07:04 PM |
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Hail!! nt. |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 08:03 AM |
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Take one look at how the south, sans Florida on occasion, votes. Enough said. nt |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 08:00 AM |
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I think Texas may get more than it's share of bashing since it's home to |
Arkansas Granny |
Jun-03-11 10:44 AM |
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Texas and the "entire south" gets a bashing only because they overwhelmingly vote... |
PassingFair |
Jun-03-11 10:56 AM |
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exactly. n/t |
RainDog |
Jun-03-11 10:59 AM |
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+1. |
JVS |
Jun-03-11 11:22 AM |
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In fact, liberals and progressives in the South are more acutely aware of this |
nxylas |
Jun-03-11 01:12 PM |
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The WORST is having them assume you are a racist... |
PassingFair |
Jun-03-11 04:07 PM |
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We know a song about that, don't we? |
nxylas |
Jun-04-11 02:53 AM |
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Don't forget Lon Burnam |
7wo7rees |
Jun-03-11 01:59 PM |
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I wouldn't bet on that. |
JoeyT |
Jun-04-11 07:21 AM |
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I have NEVER seen that. |
PassingFair |
Jun-04-11 08:42 AM |
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I have. |
cordelia |
Jun-05-11 07:39 AM |
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It's not that it's the home of GWB - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jun-03-11 05:47 PM |
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Posters are against rightwing positions and TX has been a hot spot .... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-04-11 10:25 AM |
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GWB was born in the NE. |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-05-11 03:38 PM |
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Yes, GWB was born in the NE, |
Moses2SandyKoufax |
Jun-05-11 05:43 PM |
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Is hatred of Kansas still okay, then? |
hfojvt |
Jun-03-11 10:48 AM |
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OF course that's because of the context |
booley |
Jun-03-11 11:01 AM |
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depnds on how you measure that |
hfojvt |
Jun-03-11 11:47 AM |
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Methinks you are confusing the |
DeadEyeDyck |
Jun-04-11 10:59 AM |
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It's not really a binary thing |
Hippo_Tron |
Jun-05-11 03:08 PM |
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Don't insult progressive states by mentioning Texas in the same sentence |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 08:07 AM |
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Texas has its Progressive enclaves... |
BadtotheboneBob |
Jun-05-11 09:26 PM |
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What happened in Kansas, given it's liberal/populist history ... is also a similar question .... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-04-11 10:27 AM |
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As a Texan, I thank you... Add Dr. Robert Haley |
w8liftinglady |
Jun-03-11 10:48 AM |
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I was willing to give Texas a break. I really was. |
Fuddnik |
Jun-03-11 10:50 AM |
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I think it's doubly unfair for Texas since the state gets it from both sides |
petronius |
Jun-03-11 10:51 AM |
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I have lived in Texas for 42 years and the South my whole life, and all I can say is |
McCamy Taylor |
Jun-03-11 11:04 AM |
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Is somebody on DU advocating for Rick Perry for president? |
Maru Kitteh |
Jun-03-11 11:08 AM |
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Speak for yourself and your family. |
Dreamer Tatum |
Jun-03-11 11:30 AM |
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"I, for one, applaud the influx of northerners we |
lonestarlib |
Jun-03-11 12:21 PM |
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Well that's nice. Thanks for making me feel so welcome. |
ScreamingMeemie |
Jun-03-11 12:25 PM |
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You are living proof that there are some people in Texas... |
PassingFair |
Jun-03-11 04:13 PM |
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Prejudice against "Yankees" in the South |
treestar |
Jun-04-11 08:40 AM |
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Except that Texas has THREE cities in the US top ten. |
PassingFair |
Jun-04-11 08:46 AM |
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Didn't know San Antonio was that large! |
treestar |
Jun-04-11 10:48 AM |
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Thanks. |
PassingFair |
Jun-04-11 03:21 PM |
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Interesting . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-04-11 10:32 AM |
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I'm sorry to disagree Du ers do not hate southerners, they dislike the rabid right |
mrcheerful |
Jun-03-11 11:07 AM |
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Well edit again to fix the spelling error |
socialist_n_TN |
Jun-03-11 11:45 AM |
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Oppppps editing time expired, sorry haven't been sleeping well and my speeling |
mrcheerful |
Jun-03-11 02:04 PM |
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Sorry about busting your chops about that, but |
socialist_n_TN |
Jun-04-11 10:11 AM |
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Exactly. Add Arizona and the mountain west to the list, along with Texas and the south. nt |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 08:12 AM |
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You are right, adding that there are "rednecks" in the North |
treestar |
Jun-04-11 08:41 AM |
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Will agree that rightwing elites have had fierce control over Texas ... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-04-11 10:43 AM |
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PS on this .... EVERYONE in US seems to have "voted against their own best interests" ... !! |
defendandprotect |
Jun-04-11 10:46 AM |
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You should hear what i say about Missouri |
booley |
Jun-03-11 11:09 AM |
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I do not believe DUers hate Texas or the South. DUers rather |
OHdem10 |
Jun-03-11 11:13 AM |
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How's that "secession" thing workin' for ya? |
WinkyDink |
Jun-03-11 11:19 AM |
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Not so well for the over 40% of us Democrats. |
efhmc |
Jun-03-11 12:30 PM |
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Win more fing elections. Save the rest of us from having to eliminate the |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 08:17 AM |
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True, though one thing to consider |
treestar |
Jun-04-11 08:44 AM |
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"It's not who votes... It's who counts the votes." |
Melissa G |
Jun-04-11 10:26 AM |
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Agree -- |
defendandprotect |
Jun-04-11 10:50 AM |
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Yes, we agree |
Melissa G |
Jun-04-11 02:00 PM |
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Minorities can be given sound wisdom to vote democrat. |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 12:21 PM |
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Minorities don't need to be "given" sound wisdom to vote Democrat. |
Melissa G |
Jun-04-11 02:06 PM |
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The wildfires put an end to that talk. nt |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 08:14 AM |
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Texas is held in the same esteem as Oklahoma, Alabama, and Mississippi. |
JVS |
Jun-03-11 11:20 AM |
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K&R |
ceile |
Jun-03-11 11:23 AM |
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I don't hate Texas, just the idiots who vote for Perry |
Taverner |
Jun-03-11 11:23 AM |
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Totally fucking agree. EVERY state in the union has DU'ers. n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-03-11 11:25 AM |
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Goddamn, Bucky |
Richardo |
Jun-03-11 11:32 AM |
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+1 nt :) |
TBF |
Jun-03-11 12:02 PM |
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Naw, I prefer to bash Utah. |
arbusto_baboso |
Jun-03-11 11:34 AM |
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I bash Florida worse - they really earned it... |
radhika |
Jun-03-11 11:42 AM |
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Yup. |
KamaAina |
Jun-03-11 11:56 AM |
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And Bill Moyers |
KamaAina |
Jun-03-11 11:52 AM |
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I'm sorry, but Texas has more than earned its scorn. |
JackDragna |
Jun-03-11 12:03 PM |
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Although, by that argument, California should earn scorn too |
Taverner |
Jun-03-11 12:04 PM |
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Good point.. |
JackDragna |
Jun-03-11 12:13 PM |
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Prop 8, Gropenfuher, Prop 13, etc... |
Taverner |
Jun-03-11 12:16 PM |
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nah - you can still retire here |
dana_b |
Jun-03-11 12:26 PM |
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Not just Orange but San Diego County, too. |
arbusto_baboso |
Jun-03-11 12:53 PM |
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good points |
dana_b |
Jun-03-11 01:03 PM |
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Southern California once had more KKK per capita then |
WHEN CRABS ROAR |
Jun-03-11 06:15 PM |
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Two. Eisenhower was born in Denison, TX. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jun-04-11 01:51 PM |
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What a silly argument. |
Dreamer Tatum |
Jun-03-11 12:45 PM |
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I'm sorry, but have you spent any time at all in New York City? |
Hippo_Tron |
Jun-05-11 03:15 PM |
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can't help it. I'm from Colorado. n/t |
librechik |
Jun-03-11 12:03 PM |
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Texas, and the southern states are beacons of virtue and hope, |
Joe Fields |
Jun-03-11 12:36 PM |
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lol |
fascisthunter |
Jun-03-11 03:08 PM |
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Yeah, and there were some good people who lived in Germany before 1945, but by and large... |
JVS |
Jun-03-11 12:37 PM |
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Exactly. nt |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 08:20 AM |
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This saga isn't only true of Texas and the South ... it's widespread across US .... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-04-11 10:52 AM |
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It ain't easy being Texan. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jun-03-11 12:38 PM |
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Houston ain't so bad - |
TBF |
Jun-03-11 02:47 PM |
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Great essay |
libodem |
Jun-03-11 12:44 PM |
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As simple perusal of the 2008 Electoral Map |
LondonReign2 |
Jun-03-11 12:53 PM |
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Or 2004, or 2000, or 1996, or 1992, or 1988. |
JVS |
Jun-03-11 12:58 PM |
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Yeah, 45% of people voting in your favor: fuck 'em until they get that other 5% |
readmoreoften |
Jun-03-11 02:38 PM |
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I imagine provincialism is illustrative of a lazy mind... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-03-11 01:03 PM |
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I imagine condescension to be illustrative of a lazy mind... |
LondonReign2 |
Jun-03-11 01:10 PM |
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However, condescension is not the subject of the thread... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-03-11 02:02 PM |
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!!! |
Bucky |
Jun-04-11 09:34 AM |
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Little known fact about the electoral college: Texas controls over half the votes |
WatsonT |
Jun-03-11 02:57 PM |
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mispost |
Marr |
Jun-04-11 11:08 AM |
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TEXAS is still paying for JOHN KENNEDY'S DEATH! ... n/t |
Kolesar |
Jun-03-11 01:09 PM |
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BEAUTIFUL! |
Ishoutandscream2 |
Jun-03-11 01:23 PM |
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I have nothing against individual Texans |
Downtown Hound |
Jun-03-11 01:54 PM |
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"Don't Mess With Texas" is a phrase coined to fight littering. |
ScreamingMeemie |
Jun-03-11 03:57 PM |
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Don't mess with Texas = state anti-littering campaign |
WatsonT |
Jun-05-11 02:16 PM |
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Recommended. I was born in Arkansas and raised in Oklahoma. |
Heidi |
Jun-03-11 02:05 PM |
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Why limit it to Texas? |
bvar22 |
Jun-03-11 02:33 PM |
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I live in Georgia. I cannot bash!... |
Phentex |
Jun-03-11 02:34 PM |
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Love your lantana and Rose of Sharon. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jun-03-11 03:35 PM |
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Logicians call it "Fallacy of Division" |
readmoreoften |
Jun-03-11 02:37 PM |
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Personally I think the whole country should be kicked out of the Union -- except Massachusetts |
Armstead |
Jun-03-11 03:06 PM |
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Massachusetts and Vermont. Let California, Oregon, Washington State, |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 08:26 AM |
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I Love Austin |
RagAss |
Jun-03-11 03:51 PM |
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You think this place hates Texas? Check these opinions out |
robdogbucky |
Jun-03-11 04:12 PM |
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Don't forget the hanging **** Florida. |
russspeakeasy |
Jun-03-11 04:28 PM |
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"chad"? |
Bucky |
Jun-04-11 09:40 AM |
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not what I had in mind... |
russspeakeasy |
Jun-04-11 11:51 AM |
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Agreed on many levels -- this coming from a happy-to-be-ex-Texan. |
MrModerate |
Jun-03-11 05:48 PM |
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A big portion of the country is very conservative |
strawberryfield |
Jun-03-11 06:02 PM |
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I'm from Kentucky and expect some heat and feel we deserve much of it. |
TheKentuckian |
Jun-03-11 06:27 PM |
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As a Texan Democrat, you can imagine my shock |
DFW |
Jun-03-11 06:12 PM |
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CA - Three Strikes, Massive Prison Industry |
radhika |
Jun-03-11 06:39 PM |
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Still. I would take California any fucking day over Texas. nt |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 08:30 AM |
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You're right. Some really good comes out of Texas. But mostly really |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 07:59 AM |
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I hate Texas and I live here. |
alarimer |
Jun-04-11 08:33 AM |
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North Carolina has become a semi blue state. Move the the Raleigh-Durham |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 12:25 PM |
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LOL...a helluva a lot more. Are you even familiar with this state? |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Jun-05-11 10:21 PM |
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IMO it's a matter of not taking comments like that too seriously |
treestar |
Jun-04-11 08:36 AM |
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Hatred of Texas??? What a waste of emotion. |
robcon |
Jun-04-11 08:45 AM |
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Texas sucks |
itsrobert |
Jun-04-11 08:46 AM |
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3.5 Million Texans Cast Votes For Obama. |
Paladin |
Jun-04-11 10:48 AM |
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Progressive and moderate Texans are the people that will take |
bluestate10 |
Jun-04-11 12:29 PM |
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That's OK---I Don't Take You And Your Snotty Attitude Seriously, Either. |
Paladin |
Jun-04-11 02:06 PM |
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I don't hate Texas... |
Bigmack |
Jun-04-11 09:51 AM |
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While people go to ogasm over their hatred of Texas |
Marnie |
Jun-04-11 09:51 AM |
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Thank you. But that said... Ray Wiley Hubbard caught us pretty good with this song |
Bucky |
Jun-04-11 09:57 AM |
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Think we are against the rightwing -- Texas has been useful for the RW re oil/rightwing issues -- |
defendandprotect |
Jun-04-11 10:21 AM |
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I live in California and I don't hate Texas. |
Marr |
Jun-04-11 11:09 AM |
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"Rural communities" |
ScreamingMeemie |
Jun-04-11 12:55 PM |
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I know that. |
Marr |
Jun-04-11 01:32 PM |
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I live in an area of Houston that is more liberal, in some ways, than |
ScreamingMeemie |
Jun-04-11 02:03 PM |
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I just started reading the book, "The Passage" Justin Cronin, he doesn't care much for Texas ..... |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jun-04-11 12:18 PM |
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I don't dislike Texas, Just the politicians that arise from Texas. |
Drew Richards |
Jun-04-11 12:53 PM |
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It isn't limited to Texas. |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-04-11 01:17 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-05-11 06:42 AM |
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When I saw the Texas license plates... |
Drahthaardogs |
Jun-05-11 07:14 AM |
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Really? We've have tons and tons and absolute TONS of public |
ScreamingMeemie |
Jun-05-11 11:58 PM |
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Tons and tons eh? |
Drahthaardogs |
Jun-06-11 09:14 PM |
#164 |
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You Texans |
Eddie Haskell |
Jun-05-11 07:31 AM |
#150 |
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It does get tiring when you're kicked in the teeth, after you've fought... |
webDude |
Jun-05-11 02:55 PM |
#153 |
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"assholes come in all colors" ... |
Eddie Haskell |
Jun-05-11 06:02 PM |
#158 |
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I won't even drive through Texas. Or Florida. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Jun-06-11 01:29 AM |
#163 |
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I grew up in Texas, among people much like G W Bush. Many of my childhood friends |
struggle4progress |
Jun-06-11 09:59 PM |
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