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Mon May-30-11 09:35 AM
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Recent weak economic data has pushed back the market's estimate for the timing of Fed's first 1/4 point tightening into Q2 2012...the first Fed funds future below 99.75 (0.25%) is April 2012 and conforms with the Eurodollar futures levels as well.
From here on, the market currently suggests we get to 1% (Fed funds) in Q4 2012, 2% in Q4 2013, 3% in Q4 2014...but then flattening out to only 3.5% in Q4 2015. All of this is consistent with recent rallies in most fixed income products. The extrapolated 5 yr Treasury rate 5 years forward is down to 4.42%.
On the inflation front, market views have cooled noticeably with the recent data and drops in commodity prices. TIPs breakevens that estimate inflation rates over various timespans are currently:
5yrs: 2.11% 10yrs: 2.33% 30yrs: 2.46%
Not much real economic news is due before Thurs-Fri. On Thurs, Q1 productivity is expected to be revised to rise 0.1 to 1.7%, and unit labor costs to drop 0.2 to 0.8%. The direction of both anticipated revisions is consistent with diminishing inflation worries.
Bloomberg has the Friday non-farm payrolls consensus at +190k, although other surveys have it a little lower and the whisper numbers are much lower....consistent with the awful new claims and orders/production/zero revision to Q1 GDP. Important GDP drivers inside look flattish, with hourly earnings expected up 0.1% and the workweek expected to be unchanged.
I read yesterday noted that the whisper payrolls number is so low and so widely whispered -- under 100k -- that by the time we actually get the release, 150k might knock bonds down a bit.
FWIW, this backdrop is generally consistent with FI moving to modestly lower rates over the next month or so as 1) Greece and the PIIGS shake the Euroland sov and banking credit picture, 2) econ data continue to come in on the weak side, and 3) as Fed buys another $100-ish billion Treasury coupon issues before 6/30 while NO NET NEW SUPPLY arrives (probably) 'til August when the debt ceiling is likely raised.
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| -When will interest rates go back up? |
Courtesy Flush |
May-29-11 01:18 PM |
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just before you can afford to buy a home |
FreakinDJ |
May-29-11 01:20 PM |
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When the economy is recovered, not still in recovery |
Taitertots |
May-29-11 01:21 PM |
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If the GOP gets their way, it won't be long. Don't count on savings accounts to go up, but loans... |
HopeHoops |
May-29-11 01:30 PM |
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As soon as the policy of quantitative easing has allowed the government |
individual rights |
May-29-11 01:31 PM |
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So, how does QE "plunder" your assets? n/t |
Taitertots |
May-29-11 01:53 PM |
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By creating money ex nihilo... |
individual rights |
May-29-11 02:10 PM |
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LOL! Did you base your opinion about the situation on that obvious bullshit? |
Taitertots |
May-29-11 02:28 PM |
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It should be obvious, the law of physics affirms that something cannot be created from nothing. |
individual rights |
May-29-11 04:41 PM |
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You know little physics and even less economics, apparently. First, you |
coalition_unwilling |
May-29-11 04:54 PM |
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I suppose that metaphysically, it is theoretically possible to get something from nothing, but we |
individual rights |
May-29-11 05:14 PM |
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Enjoy your stay. Alas, shall be without my insights. - n/t |
coalition_unwilling |
May-29-11 05:19 PM |
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You seem to be suggesting that any criticism of Bernanke and the fedreserve |
individual rights |
May-29-11 07:22 PM |
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Not blasphemous, just not based in reality |
Taitertots |
May-30-11 07:43 AM |
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Your statement is incorrect for two main reasons |
Taitertots |
May-30-11 07:39 AM |
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If you don't understand this BASIC STUFF. |
sendero |
May-30-11 08:16 AM |
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Is this supposed to have the sarcasm tag? |
Taitertots |
May-30-11 09:28 AM |
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I didn't look at any video.. |
sendero |
May-30-11 11:09 AM |
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A lot of people think they know what happens when you print currency |
Taitertots |
May-30-11 11:34 AM |
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Economics.. |
sendero |
May-30-11 11:47 AM |
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Two years is generally accepted as long enough to see inflationary effects |
Taitertots |
May-30-11 12:05 PM |
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QE is already causing inflation.. |
sendero |
May-30-11 05:25 PM |
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It hasn't, it isn't, and there are other factors |
Taitertots |
May-31-11 04:58 PM |
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QE |
melm00se |
May-30-11 08:18 AM |
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It already hasn't driven inflation |
Taitertots |
May-30-11 08:29 AM |
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"t already hasn't driven inflation" |
melm00se |
May-30-11 12:53 PM |
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Cherry picked price increases are NOT inflation |
Taitertots |
May-30-11 01:26 PM |
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the published CPI |
melm00se |
May-31-11 04:55 AM |
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Food and energy were intentionally glossed over to avoid making the results misleading |
Taitertots |
May-31-11 04:39 PM |
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I think that interest rates will go up this year. |
theoldman |
May-29-11 01:40 PM |
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->ATTENTION: Starting this June, the Federal Reserve will nolonger be purchasing Federal... |
Poll_Blind |
May-29-11 01:43 PM |
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divvy |
May-30-11 08:19 AM |
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Your last sentence explains why stocks rocketed during QE. |
Lucky Luciano |
May-29-11 02:06 PM |
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Any time the Chinese say it will |
ThomWV |
May-29-11 02:09 PM |
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THAT's the correct short term answer. |
unblock |
May-30-11 08:12 AM |
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I think Oil Exporters own more debt than the Chinese |
divvy |
May-30-11 08:28 AM |
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OP says.... |
katanalori |
May-29-11 03:26 PM |
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When the bond markets lose confidence in our debt instruments. |
roamer65 |
May-29-11 07:27 PM |
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that will not happen for at least a couple years. |
unblock |
May-30-11 08:10 AM |
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I posed that question to a friend ..... his response |
divvy |
May-30-11 09:35 AM |
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interest rates |
melm00se |
May-30-11 08:21 AM |
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Unemployment at 7% or less, and upward pressure on wages. |
divvy |
May-30-11 08:23 AM |
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