| -PHOTOS: A rare glimpse into daily life in North Korea (VERY pic heavy) |
Very_Boring_Name |
May-29-11 11:11 AM |
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fascinating pictures. |
Old and In the Way |
May-29-11 11:18 AM |
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Lewis Black made a joke that NK, the whole country, is actually in black and white |
Taverner |
May-29-11 11:24 AM |
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And the fact that not another human is on the streets.. |
snooper2 |
May-31-11 10:15 AM |
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The empty 10 lane road was most striking. |
kick-ass-bob |
May-31-11 01:09 PM |
#145 |
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I guess everyone is either in the military or in workcamps. |
smirkymonkey |
May-31-11 01:33 PM |
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And aside from the figure skater and the group siting, everyone is standing at attention. |
Javaman |
May-31-11 11:22 AM |
#126 |
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A real life city of Lego blocks. |
Uncle Joe |
May-31-11 03:13 PM |
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And almost all the people in the photos |
Mojorabbit |
May-31-11 08:40 PM |
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Fascinating (and pretty tightly regimented, too). Thank you. nt |
Buns_of_Fire |
May-29-11 11:21 AM |
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The city looks like a mausoleum. |
Ikonoklast |
May-29-11 11:27 AM |
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"mausoleum"- that was the word I was looking for! |
Poll_Blind |
May-29-11 11:29 AM |
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They have an odd timelessness to them... |
Javaman |
May-31-11 11:23 AM |
#127 |
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The empty streets looked like a neutron bomb had gone off eom |
GCP |
May-30-11 09:20 AM |
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What a wasteland. And what beautiful people. They are under a ghastly opression. |
Poll_Blind |
May-29-11 11:28 AM |
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...ghastly.... |
Hannah Bell |
May-29-11 03:32 PM |
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Not one smile |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-29-11 11:28 AM |
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Beat me too it. |
Deep13 |
May-29-11 11:29 AM |
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perhaps because the photos are selected for that impression. |
Hannah Bell |
May-29-11 02:25 PM |
#41 |
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Really? |
SixString |
May-29-11 11:57 PM |
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Smiles |
Zaruka |
May-30-11 09:15 AM |
#98 |
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No one is smiling... |
Deep13 |
May-29-11 11:28 AM |
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always funny to see the huge assumptions people make based on a limited body of evidence: NK smiles |
Hannah Bell |
May-29-11 02:23 PM |
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Bingo on the foreign capital motive. That is what got me questioning |
jwirr |
May-29-11 02:56 PM |
#54 |
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seems to be the one thing all these "evil" places have in common: once |
Hannah Bell |
May-29-11 03:27 PM |
#59 |
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What assumptions did I make? |
Deep13 |
May-30-11 10:20 AM |
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actually, even in those photos there are some people smiling, as another poster pointed out. |
Hannah Bell |
May-30-11 02:13 PM |
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Pictures are awesome!!! |
onpatrol98 |
May-31-11 06:02 PM |
#240 |
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Have you seen the entire DRPK Flickr group? I have. |
joshcryer |
May-31-11 07:07 PM |
#251 |
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They also use a common method many don't notice. |
RandomThoughts |
May-30-11 01:12 AM |
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This picture sums it up nicely |
Abin Sur |
May-29-11 11:29 AM |
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+1 |
Poll_Blind |
May-29-11 11:32 AM |
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They would be nice skys for star gazing. n/t |
daleo |
May-29-11 04:39 PM |
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yep, until you get hungry and need a sam-wich |
snooper2 |
May-31-11 10:23 AM |
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Wow, those are amazing photos. I hope some day these people become free. |
stevedeshazer |
May-29-11 11:33 AM |
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I certainly hope we're not the ones who bring freedom to them. |
Initech |
May-29-11 12:07 PM |
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Well, yeah. |
stevedeshazer |
May-29-11 12:32 PM |
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Reunification is only a matter of time. The Koreans will sort it out. |
joshcryer |
May-31-11 07:25 PM |
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recommend |
xchrom |
May-29-11 11:33 AM |
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The bldgs remind me of Henry Ford of almost a century ago. |
lpbk2713 |
May-29-11 11:34 AM |
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In a Hayao Miyazaki movie, this would be the creepy place. nt |
sufrommich |
May-29-11 11:35 AM |
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That's a cheerful looking bunch |
Canuckistanian |
May-29-11 11:37 AM |
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Interesting but I wish there were more spontaneous photographs |
Armstead |
May-29-11 11:40 AM |
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They can be found |
izquierdista |
May-29-11 11:58 AM |
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That group on flickr was something else |
rurallib |
May-29-11 01:05 PM |
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Thanks |
Armstead |
May-29-11 03:03 PM |
#57 |
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They aren't big on that sort of thing |
WatsonT |
May-29-11 12:40 PM |
#30 |
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give it a rest. |
Hannah Bell |
May-29-11 02:40 PM |
#47 |
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Anyone who thinks that the pictures North Koreas government shows to the world |
WatsonT |
May-30-11 04:37 PM |
#106 |
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the photos under discussion were taken by a western photographer. |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 12:45 PM |
#132 |
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Even westerners are escorted and only allowed to see what the regime wants them to |
WatsonT |
May-31-11 04:33 PM |
#206 |
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do you? |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-01-11 02:13 AM |
#281 |
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Here, educate yourself |
WatsonT |
Jun-01-11 08:46 AM |
#293 |
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'people going about their daily lives'.....? |
FirstLight |
May-29-11 11:41 AM |
#18 |
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...here's some... |
Hannah Bell |
May-29-11 03:33 PM |
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Thanks for posting. All the pics look very natural (yeah, that's it) and give a thorough... |
Scuba |
May-29-11 11:48 AM |
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What a surreeal empty place--no people on the streets other than one individual at |
Mist |
May-29-11 11:48 AM |
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No cars, buses, bicycles, trams, motorcycles... |
XemaSab |
May-29-11 01:51 PM |
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you should ask why the photographer chose not to portray the traffic, buses, |
Hannah Bell |
May-30-11 03:42 AM |
#93 |
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You are now the official DU spokeswoman for North Korea |
snooper2 |
May-31-11 10:34 AM |
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so rebutting obvious falsehood = being "the official du spokeswoman for nk"? |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 12:49 PM |
#133 |
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There's also probably at least one Lambo, a random Clapton concert |
snooper2 |
May-31-11 01:11 PM |
#147 |
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more simply contrasting one set of evidence with another... |
LanternWaste |
May-31-11 01:30 PM |
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Actually, any evidence that is accompanied by minders is by default unrepresentative. |
joshcryer |
May-31-11 07:10 PM |
#252 |
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She is presenting another view of NK. We know we get |
sabrina 1 |
May-31-11 05:12 PM |
#224 |
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Actually, the OP doesn't present anything but some pictures. |
joshcryer |
May-31-11 07:11 PM |
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People are free to walk under moving trains. |
sabrina 1 |
May-31-11 09:16 PM |
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It's not that I look for reasons to disagree with anyone. I just dislike totalitarian cheerleaders. |
joshcryer |
Jun-01-11 02:10 AM |
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lol. you're certainly consistent, joshy. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-01-11 02:14 AM |
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Thank you. |
joshcryer |
Jun-01-11 02:20 AM |
#285 |
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What about cheerleaders for islamic militants who are whitewashed by the Western press? |
JVS |
Jun-01-11 09:07 AM |
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Good question! |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-01-11 01:38 PM |
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And once again, you make false assumptions |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-01-11 01:26 PM |
#297 |
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Then why don't they show up in Google Earth images? |
jberryhill |
May-31-11 04:52 PM |
#215 |
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yes, the pictures of trains, busses & bicycles taken by many photographers are all fake. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-01-11 02:01 AM |
#278 |
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Well it's good that you realize it now |
jberryhill |
Jun-01-11 07:18 AM |
#292 |
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The streets are largely empty of any kind of traffic most of the time. |
joshcryer |
May-31-11 07:05 PM |
#250 |
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i agree, they're largely empty of traffic in comparison with the west. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-01-11 02:04 AM |
#279 |
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Sure. Compaerd to western standards there is little lighting. |
joshcryer |
Jun-01-11 02:15 AM |
#283 |
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They keep them open for military parades |
underpants |
May-29-11 02:26 PM |
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When were these taken, and with what camera? |
Dreamer Tatum |
May-29-11 11:50 AM |
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OMG, most fake, forced pics ever |
rainbow4321 |
May-29-11 12:01 PM |
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I visited East Germany once and noticed everyone was looking at me. |
FourScore |
May-29-11 12:03 PM |
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A land of limitless concrete and strictly-rationed smiles. |
leveymg |
May-29-11 12:06 PM |
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Good call |
XemaSab |
May-29-11 01:58 PM |
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Another truly astonishing set of photos! - Russia in color from 1910. |
leveymg |
May-29-11 02:39 PM |
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Do you have any link(s) as you make it sound |
truedelphi |
Jun-01-11 08:46 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
May-31-11 07:03 PM |
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lol. i saw scenes like that in japan. did you notice the power line? |
Hannah Bell |
May-29-11 02:43 PM |
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Yes, I commented on that - I liked the unposed photos you linked to - |
leveymg |
May-29-11 02:53 PM |
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The city's architecture looks like prisons |
graywarrior |
May-29-11 12:18 PM |
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That was my impression as well |
PatSeg |
May-29-11 12:46 PM |
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lol. i could take pictures of similar architecture in any number of places. |
Hannah Bell |
May-29-11 03:02 PM |
#56 |
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As a whole...? |
LanternWaste |
May-31-11 01:32 PM |
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They're building a Death Star? The North Koreans are a much bigger threat than we thought. n/t |
leeroysphitz |
May-29-11 12:30 PM |
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looks like he was allowed only where the wealthy live |
La Lioness Priyanka |
May-29-11 12:51 PM |
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"Daily life" is kind of a stretch, there. |
Brickbat |
May-29-11 12:55 PM |
#33 |
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sad bleak place, |
shireen |
May-29-11 01:44 PM |
#35 |
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... |
Hannah Bell |
May-29-11 03:18 PM |
#58 |
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So perhaps instead of reposting pictures of smiling and happy |
Puglover |
May-29-11 04:52 PM |
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You can't judge a place by half a dozen pictures taken out of context. |
wickerwoman |
May-29-11 11:10 PM |
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i'm trying to say that people in nk smile, despite the propaganda which says they don't. |
Hannah Bell |
May-30-11 01:40 AM |
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Alrighty then. |
Puglover |
May-30-11 07:18 AM |
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several people on this thread have commented on the lack of smiles, as |
Hannah Bell |
May-30-11 02:20 PM |
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First of all, it's not just the "US" media |
snooper2 |
May-31-11 10:52 AM |
#121 |
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I love that magazine; read it every week! |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 11:06 AM |
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"glorify" = lol. yeah, allowing that nkoreans smile is surely glorification. |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 12:38 PM |
#131 |
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You're spreading propaganda photo's all over this thread... |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 01:03 PM |
#139 |
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it's not "funny" at all, since nk's sponsors = capitalist. |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 12:36 PM |
#130 |
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you make Kim Jong-il proud... |
snooper2 |
May-31-11 01:14 PM |
#148 |
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nk isn't a client state of our capitalist trading partner & most favored nation, CHINA? |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 01:19 PM |
#153 |
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um, I didn't comment on China being a backer.. |
snooper2 |
May-31-11 01:37 PM |
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It's not funny. It's CRAZY. Pure and utter CRAZY. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 04:57 PM |
#219 |
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When you accuse someone of "reciting NK State TV Scripts",... |
Vanje |
May-31-11 05:11 PM |
#223 |
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"don't look to be suffering too dreadfully" |
joshcryer |
May-31-11 07:36 PM |
#261 |
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it's always nice when people take part of a statement to make it say something it didn't. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-01-11 02:17 AM |
#284 |
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Yeah, one picture tells you enough about them to determine their level of suffering. |
joshcryer |
Jun-01-11 02:26 AM |
#287 |
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lol. you misrepresented what i said, and still are. "Don't *look* to be suffering". |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-01-11 02:34 AM |
#290 |
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Yes, to me they don't look to be suffering or look to be happy, either. |
joshcryer |
Jun-01-11 02:38 AM |
#291 |
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WOW! That's taken CLEAR from North Korea's state television... |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 04:54 PM |
#216 |
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who outside North Korea does believe that? |
fishwax |
Jun-01-11 03:04 PM |
#299 |
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I could post smiling prisoners, too. |
Union Scribe |
May-31-11 05:35 PM |
#231 |
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nice photos! |
shireen |
May-30-11 01:06 AM |
#82 |
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The GDP of North Korea is $1,800 per person. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-31-11 09:24 PM |
#274 |
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Hmmm, the article below is talking about starving in NKO. These |
jwirr |
May-29-11 02:02 PM |
#38 |
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this photographer was in the countryside as well as the city. though |
Hannah Bell |
May-29-11 02:32 PM |
#44 |
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That is interesting. Thanks for the insight. |
jwirr |
May-29-11 02:41 PM |
#48 |
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a selection of smiling north koreans: |
Hannah Bell |
May-29-11 02:45 PM |
#51 |
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Are these the same North-Koreans who are dying of starvation, or who are being sent to prison camps? |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 11:11 AM |
#124 |
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they are koreans smiling natural smiles. your agenda is obviously something else. |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 12:57 PM |
#136 |
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Why don't you just answer the question, instead of making up conspiracy theories? |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 01:04 PM |
#141 |
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i don't answer questions put to me by posters who make false claims about me. |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 01:07 PM |
#144 |
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No, you don't answer questions, because, if you were honest, you would make a fool out of yourself. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 01:17 PM |
#152 |
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Very telling dodge. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
May-31-11 05:51 PM |
#237 |
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So. Those are the ones who get to eat? n/t |
UTUSN |
May-29-11 02:20 PM |
#39 |
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North Korean back-hoe operators dress rather differently |
underpants |
May-29-11 02:29 PM |
#43 |
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Add some chemicals and an irrigation system, |
MattSh |
May-30-11 02:22 AM |
#90 |
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Reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
May-29-11 02:34 PM |
#45 |
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Extra creepy especially the train ride... |
PCIntern |
May-29-11 02:56 PM |
#55 |
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The replies of a certain member in this thread reminds me of the Twilight Zone... |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 11:08 AM |
#123 |
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please link to those posts "glorifying" nk. you are prevaricating. |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 12:58 PM |
#137 |
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I didn't mention your name. But hey, if the shoe fits... |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 01:03 PM |
#140 |
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yep, you can't. prevaricating. |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 01:06 PM |
#142 |
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ALL of your replies in this thread... I don't have to link them, because they ARE IN HERE. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 01:15 PM |
#149 |
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then you should be able to link one. can't, won't. prevaricating. |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 01:16 PM |
#151 |
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You can repeat it a thousand times, dear, that won't make them go away. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 01:22 PM |
#155 |
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as there are no posts on this thread "glorifying nk," i'm not too worried. whereas your false claim |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 01:27 PM |
#159 |
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Everybody can read how you're calling factual claims about N-K "capitalist propaganda"... |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 01:34 PM |
#165 |
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lol. if a small one isn't good enough, tell some even bigger whoppers. |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 02:18 PM |
#180 |
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Why don't you just DENY it then? DENY my claims! Why don't you? |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 02:23 PM |
#181 |
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Really? This is a 10 year old's argument. |
kick-ass-bob |
May-31-11 01:24 PM |
#157 |
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She's glorifying it by aggresively combatting known FACTS about the awfullness that is N-K... |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 01:42 PM |
#169 |
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Spot-on post. +1. Especially your second-to-last sentence. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
May-31-11 05:29 PM |
#227 |
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It's really flabbergasting, isn't it? I have seen some crazy stuff on the internet, but defending |
apocalypsehow |
May-31-11 05:28 PM |
#226 |
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Who is defending NK Dictatorship? |
Vanje |
May-31-11 05:40 PM |
#233 |
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If you can't comprehend the words on the screen in front of you, that's not my problem. |
apocalypsehow |
May-31-11 05:49 PM |
#236 |
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You cant find a quote |
Vanje |
May-31-11 06:03 PM |
#242 |
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I haven't been able to read the entire thread, but it looks like a combination of derision... |
joshcryer |
May-31-11 07:40 PM |
#262 |
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of course, that is not the full quote, but i don't expect honesty from you. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-01-11 02:24 AM |
#286 |
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It conveys the hypocrisy well. Accusing others of judging based on an image... |
joshcryer |
Jun-01-11 02:29 AM |
#289 |
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Looks nicer than most of Detroit |
Taitertots |
May-29-11 02:43 PM |
#50 |
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yeah, good question, as other photographers are able to get unposed shots. |
Hannah Bell |
May-29-11 02:46 PM |
#52 |
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propaganda like: "land of no smiles" if anyone wants to know where this "no smile" idea comes from. |
Hannah Bell |
May-29-11 04:03 PM |
#62 |
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I have to agree. We know nothing about how the NK people |
lumpy |
May-29-11 04:19 PM |
#64 |
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it might be a cultural thing too HB |
AlecBGreen |
May-29-11 10:34 PM |
#73 |
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yes. in japan as well -- typically one didn't use to smile for a formal posed photo. |
Hannah Bell |
May-30-11 01:48 AM |
#87 |
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Wait, so the fact that people smile in North Korea |
WatsonT |
May-30-11 04:50 PM |
#108 |
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i have no interest in the question of "how bad nk is" as it's a stupid question, |
Hannah Bell |
May-30-11 11:37 PM |
#112 |
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North Korea is a terrible place |
WatsonT |
May-31-11 09:42 AM |
#115 |
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Simple: North-Korea is a communist state. 'Communism = goooood!'; 'Capitalism = baaaaaaad!' |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 11:13 AM |
#125 |
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gee, you get all that from: "people smile in nk"? my, my, aren't you the little mind-reader. |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 12:52 PM |
#135 |
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Why don't you just DENY that you think North-Korea is a glorious state? |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 01:07 PM |
#143 |
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perhaps you should read my previous posts if you want to know my thoughts on nk. |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 01:15 PM |
#150 |
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See, you just called factual statements "our government's propaganda"... |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 01:21 PM |
#154 |
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because i live in the united states & have direct knowledge of our government's propaganda. duh. |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 01:25 PM |
#158 |
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Ah, I see... You only want to believe North-Korean propaganda. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 01:31 PM |
#161 |
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Several reporters and aid workers have gone to North Korea |
WatsonT |
May-31-11 04:40 PM |
#212 |
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This BBC correspondent says: |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 07:27 PM |
#258 |
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That truly depends on the level of access the photographer had. |
joshcryer |
May-31-11 07:43 PM |
#263 |
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You don't think the US puts out propaganda?? |
kick-ass-bob |
May-31-11 01:34 PM |
#164 |
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False dichotomy; Hannah Bell has been using this false dichotomy all over the thread. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 01:35 PM |
#166 |
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OK - I've looked through as many of her posts here as I can |
kick-ass-bob |
May-31-11 01:47 PM |
#171 |
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*I* am close-minded? *She's* the one who thinks smiling people are 'evidence'... |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 02:04 PM |
#178 |
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Then why did you attack the guy who has obviously been there? |
kick-ass-bob |
May-31-11 02:25 PM |
#183 |
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I wasn't attacking the guy who claims to have been in North-Korea; I was asking him questions. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 02:33 PM |
#186 |
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Fighting a straw man...... |
Vanje |
May-31-11 01:57 PM |
#177 |
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So you think repeating a false dichotomy over and over again is 'handing one's ass over to anybody'? |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 02:05 PM |
#179 |
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False dichotomy? |
Vanje |
May-31-11 02:49 PM |
#193 |
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The false dichotomy is that one has to choose between only two things: |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 04:44 PM |
#213 |
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It was not only... |
Vanje |
May-31-11 05:07 PM |
#222 |
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All governments lie, except for Dear leader, glorious president of Best Korea! |
WatsonT |
May-31-11 04:37 PM |
#209 |
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Um.... |
Vanje |
May-31-11 01:50 PM |
#174 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-31-11 04:49 PM |
#214 |
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No |
Vanje |
May-31-11 05:22 PM |
#225 |
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In this back & forth, you've been soundly defeated on the facts. There's this old saying about |
apocalypsehow |
May-31-11 05:33 PM |
#229 |
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^ ^ ^ |
Vanje |
May-31-11 05:55 PM |
#238 |
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Ever hear the term "Red Baiting"? Tell me this stuff is a Joke??? |
Go2Peace |
May-31-11 10:42 PM |
#276 |
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There are plenty of places worse than North Korea. |
JVS |
May-31-11 01:09 PM |
#146 |
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Name one. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 01:23 PM |
#156 |
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Burundi. |
JVS |
May-31-11 01:41 PM |
#168 |
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Northern Uganda. |
kick-ass-bob |
May-31-11 01:49 PM |
#172 |
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Bad place. Not a totalitarian state. Not cut off from the rest of the world. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 02:25 PM |
#184 |
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Yes, a future being kidnapped from your family and forced into an army |
kick-ass-bob |
May-31-11 02:29 PM |
#185 |
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You can get out of there. People have access to information of the outside world. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 02:37 PM |
#187 |
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YOU said 'name one place worse.' I merely answered your posit. |
kick-ass-bob |
May-31-11 02:46 PM |
#192 |
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But North Korea's beer commercials are excessively long and have boring stuff about ingredients. |
JVS |
May-31-11 03:19 PM |
#202 |
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And you have no grasp of North-Korea. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 04:39 PM |
#211 |
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Bad place. Not a totalitarian state. Not cut off from the rest of the world. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 02:24 PM |
#182 |
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Not really |
WatsonT |
May-31-11 04:38 PM |
#210 |
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Here are some pictures for you |
snooper2 |
Jun-01-11 08:58 AM |
#294 |
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Detroit would look a lot nicer if you were only allowed to take certain pictures |
WatsonT |
May-30-11 04:48 PM |
#107 |
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Holy shit. Nicely done. |
joshcryer |
May-31-11 07:15 PM |
#254 |
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everyone's wearing a uniform. weird |
Liberal_in_LA |
May-29-11 04:05 PM |
#63 |
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Everything looks so clean and orderly |
PotatoChip |
May-29-11 04:51 PM |
#66 |
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The stark emptyness.. |
AsahinaKimi |
May-29-11 04:51 PM |
#67 |
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is this supposed to be a joke? |
hfojvt |
May-29-11 04:59 PM |
#69 |
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thanks |
Joe NoWay |
May-29-11 05:02 PM |
#70 |
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Bookmarked for later....always intrigued by forbidden isolated places. nt |
Lucky Luciano |
May-29-11 07:21 PM |
#71 |
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I take it designer clothing isn't a big seller in N. Korea. |
yella_dawg |
May-29-11 08:15 PM |
#72 |
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And then there is this perspective... |
FedUpWithIt All |
May-29-11 11:02 PM |
#74 |
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Horrible. Grim, bleak and depressing. An indictment of the Communist system. |
Nye Bevan |
May-29-11 11:02 PM |
#75 |
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Even at the expense of this? |
wickerwoman |
May-29-11 11:31 PM |
#77 |
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Hmmm, no. Based on your pictures I guess the USA *should* adopt a N Korea style Communist system. |
Nye Bevan |
May-29-11 11:41 PM |
#79 |
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That's my point exactly. |
wickerwoman |
May-29-11 11:51 PM |
#80 |
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Do you think North Koreans are better off than Americans? |
Drunken Irishman |
May-30-11 01:42 AM |
#86 |
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her point was quite clear. she makes no assumptions about who is "better off" -- or anything else - |
Hannah Bell |
May-30-11 02:06 AM |
#89 |
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I think we have a bit more to go on than merely 9 pictures |
WatsonT |
May-30-11 04:52 PM |
#109 |
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As I said above, |
wickerwoman |
May-30-11 06:33 PM |
#110 |
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Oh, you make me nostalgic! |
izquierdista |
May-31-11 11:23 AM |
#128 |
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I wonder at what hour the building pics were taken? |
tuckessee |
May-29-11 11:32 PM |
#78 |
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It's important to point out that much of what is seen in Pyongyang is staged... |
Drunken Irishman |
May-30-11 01:35 AM |
#84 |
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Thanks, great info. |
wtmusic |
May-30-11 01:52 AM |
#88 |
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more staged photos from nk |
Hannah Bell |
May-30-11 03:02 AM |
#92 |
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Hannah, are you really trying to defend North Korea? |
Imajika |
May-31-11 06:45 PM |
#246 |
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I would hate to live in a place... |
Lucian |
May-30-11 02:58 AM |
#91 |
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These look like propaganda pictures |
divvy |
May-30-11 07:38 AM |
#95 |
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Photography in North Korea |
Zaruka |
May-30-11 08:11 AM |
#96 |
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Thanks so much for your input. |
lumpy |
May-30-11 04:13 PM |
#105 |
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I don't automatically believe what the media says about the DPRK anymore. There's tour groups going |
Shagbark Hickory |
May-31-11 08:00 AM |
#114 |
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If North-Korea is not really the totalitarian dictatorship we think it is, as you say... |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 11:26 AM |
#129 |
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You are overreacting. Read the quote from one of his pics: |
kick-ass-bob |
May-31-11 01:53 PM |
#175 |
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Why don't you, or him, just answer my questions? They're very normal questions. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 02:42 PM |
#188 |
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I haven't been there. I don't know. |
kick-ass-bob |
May-31-11 02:52 PM |
#194 |
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Brick wall, indeed |
Vanje |
May-31-11 03:04 PM |
#198 |
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He didn't answer any questions at all. I asked things he didn't adress. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 04:32 PM |
#205 |
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No one said..... |
Vanje |
May-31-11 03:02 PM |
#197 |
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The fact that it was not said literally, flat-out, word-for-word exactly like that... |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 04:36 PM |
#208 |
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Your arguments are based on exaggerations of what others |
Vanje |
May-31-11 04:55 PM |
#217 |
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No, it's not; you're playing semantic games. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 05:01 PM |
#221 |
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A "recap in your own words" |
Vanje |
May-31-11 05:35 PM |
#232 |
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how much of DPRK's troubles are caused by economic sanctions |
BOG PERSON |
May-31-11 05:34 PM |
#230 |
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Poor governance AND economic sanctions |
Vanje |
May-31-11 05:46 PM |
#235 |
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that question was directed at Zaruka actually |
BOG PERSON |
May-31-11 06:06 PM |
#243 |
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As someone who has been there (Pyongyang), I have a very hard time believing your story.... |
SadPanda |
May-31-11 06:29 PM |
#245 |
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Anyone who feigns favorablity with these states gets treated well and has better access. |
joshcryer |
May-31-11 07:21 PM |
#256 |
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Welcome to DU |
Canuckistanian |
May-31-11 08:58 PM |
#271 |
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Outstanding post....welcome aboard. |
Old and In the Way |
May-31-11 10:55 PM |
#277 |
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Whoa! |
CJvR |
May-30-11 08:52 AM |
#97 |
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The city pictures look like scenes from The Walking Dead. |
Initech |
May-30-11 09:17 AM |
#99 |
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The first word that comes to mind is "Sterile" |
MrScorpio |
May-30-11 02:26 PM |
#104 |
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Um. Those pictures are staged as stiff. If you really want to see North Korea see these docs: |
readmoreoften |
May-30-11 06:46 PM |
#111 |
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One of the other defectors, Charles Robert Jenkins, has a good book called "the reluctant communist" |
Erose999 |
May-31-11 07:46 AM |
#113 |
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I read The Reluctant Communist and saw Crossing the Line, I think the latter is better. |
joshcryer |
May-31-11 07:48 PM |
#264 |
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ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL |
snooper2 |
May-31-11 10:13 AM |
#116 |
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The sheer EMPTINESS freaked me out and is |
hifiguy |
May-31-11 10:39 AM |
#120 |
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That emptiness is what happens when the cheap oil stops flowing. |
JVS |
May-31-11 10:32 PM |
#275 |
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That is only the best of the best of the city |
Juche |
May-31-11 12:49 PM |
#134 |
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It just looks so desolate.... |
ceile |
May-31-11 01:02 PM |
#138 |
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The one with the hospital bed is creepy. Is that the testicle shocker laying on the bed? n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
May-31-11 01:46 PM |
#170 |
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This thread is proof that if you give some DUers enough time |
Dreamer Tatum |
May-31-11 01:50 PM |
#173 |
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or simply attacking people because they said |
kick-ass-bob |
May-31-11 01:54 PM |
#176 |
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No, attacking people because they use smiling people as 'proof' N-K is a fantastic place. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 02:44 PM |
#190 |
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Nobody on this thread said that " NK is a fantastic place". |
Vanje |
May-31-11 02:53 PM |
#195 |
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Context and deduction, dear Watson! |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 04:22 PM |
#204 |
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? |
Vanje |
May-31-11 04:56 PM |
#218 |
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If you can't figure that one out, I'm at loss. |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 05:00 PM |
#220 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-31-11 06:46 PM |
#247 |
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I'll admit, "don't look to be suffering too dreadfully" may not imply that at all. |
joshcryer |
May-31-11 07:31 PM |
#259 |
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Got that right! |
DutchLiberal |
May-31-11 02:43 PM |
#189 |
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More like proof that humans need to create an alien "other". |
Bonobo |
May-31-11 07:55 PM |
#266 |
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Wow. Looks like they have solved both traffic congestion and obesity |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-31-11 02:44 PM |
#191 |
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WHERE'S THE DAMN Ryugyong Hotel THE HOTEL OF DOOM? |
Ichingcarpenter |
May-31-11 03:01 PM |
#196 |
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Damn! |
Vanje |
May-31-11 03:07 PM |
#199 |
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I see it being used in some Sci fi Dystopian movie |
Ichingcarpenter |
May-31-11 03:16 PM |
#201 |
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Good lord. nt |
blondeatlast |
May-31-11 03:24 PM |
#203 |
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All western lies and propaganda! |
WatsonT |
May-31-11 04:36 PM |
#207 |
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wikipedia says it's almost complete |
killbotfactory |
May-31-11 05:40 PM |
#234 |
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In person it reminded me of seeing the Pyramids in Egypt... |
SadPanda |
May-31-11 06:02 PM |
#241 |
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Nice photos |
Philippine expat |
May-31-11 05:31 PM |
#228 |
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They are staged... but that's the point about North Korea |
SadPanda |
May-31-11 06:10 PM |
#244 |
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There's a select bunch of people who love staged stuff like that. |
joshcryer |
May-31-11 07:33 PM |
#260 |
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Here ya go |
SadPanda |
May-31-11 07:59 PM |
#267 |
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I like the part where they do karaoke to Anarchy in the UK. |
killbotfactory |
May-31-11 08:21 PM |
#268 |
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I spent 4 days in Pyongyang in May of 2005..... |
SadPanda |
May-31-11 05:57 PM |
#239 |
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But but but..Isn't that just all western propaganda?? |
DFab420 |
May-31-11 06:49 PM |
#248 |
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so sad... their architecture is monotone... everything looks controlled |
fascisthunter |
May-31-11 07:16 PM |
#255 |
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All staged photos. Not a glimpse into the life at all. In fact... |
Bonobo |
May-31-11 07:51 PM |
#265 |
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I agree. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-01-11 09:03 AM |
#295 |
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thanks for the pics |
mdmc |
May-31-11 08:51 PM |
#270 |
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Looks so 1959ish. |
EC |
May-31-11 09:23 PM |
#273 |
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It looks pretty and depressing at the same time. |
4lbs |
Jun-01-11 02:27 AM |
#288 |
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