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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:01 AM
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18. It's most viable on a truly grassroots local level, imho...

The laws and regulations here in the States make legal co-ops versus more informal setups more challenging, but I hope that changes. I'm working on it here in NC.

But I agree with what you said in that the most fundamental worker-owned enterprise is best achieved at a local level, like the Evergreen Cooperatives example in Cleveland.

I'd like to introduce different cooperative enterprises to kind of open the door to new ways of doing business and providing produces and services, even if they're not the type I'm most fond of, which is indeed the type you describe.

We have to start somewhere.....

I agree that some things are best nationalized and shouldn't be for a profit and should be STRICTLY about The Common Good. Healthcare and education, for example.

Cooperative approaches, combined with legislative efforts, may be a bridge to take us closer to such a system.

It's common sense, for cryin' out loud. People can decry all the isms they want, but it's a matter of common sense and humanity.

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  -What does co-op mean to you? OneGrassRoot  May-29-11 09:36 AM   #0 
  - when I was a kid, the only co-op nearby was sort of a customer-run discount health food store  eShirl   May-29-11 09:42 AM   #1 
  - Exactly...  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 09:45 AM   #3 
  - I remember that. My mom was a member of the Food Coop in Westhaven , ct  BoWanZi   May-29-11 12:36 PM   #46 
     - Wow, that had to be an interesting experience.  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 01:05 PM   #50 
        - I wish I had a better experience but mine was tainted due to issues at bedtime  BoWanZi   May-29-11 05:04 PM   #73 
  - I thought it was a place you kept chickens.  mysuzuki2   May-29-11 09:43 AM   #2 
  - lol...  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 09:45 AM   #4 
  - LOL - really. Very funny. nt  DURHAM D   May-29-11 09:46 AM   #6 
  - To me Coop stands for -  DURHAM D   May-29-11 09:45 AM   #5 
  - Very cool about your great-grandmother...  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 09:49 AM   #7 
  - To me, "employee-owned, for-profit companies" have a much different connotation.  NYC_SKP   May-29-11 09:52 AM   #8 
  - I think the "hippies" thing is part of it, but why that turns DUers off is beyond me...  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 10:00 AM   #12 
  - 2012 - International Year of the Co-op  SpiralHawk   May-29-11 09:53 AM   #9 
  - Yes, I just mentioned that upthread, I think...  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 10:01 AM   #13 
  - we have a local organic veggies co-op run by moms nt  msongs   May-29-11 09:56 AM   #10 
  - That's the most common and successful type of co-op...  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 10:32 AM   #16 
  - For example, a cooperative alternative to HuffPo and  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 09:59 AM   #11 
  - I'm attempting to do something akin to a co-op  Le Taz Hot   May-29-11 10:05 AM   #14 
  - That's very much what I'm talking about!  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 10:30 AM   #15 
  - Excellent ideas . . . community-building is the answer  janet118   May-29-11 11:19 AM   #25 
  - Great Ideas, We Need to Cooperate in Everything!  Justina For Justice   May-29-11 01:34 PM   #52 
  - Wow, government subsidies for cooperatives, not Mega-Corporate Frankensteins. what a concept. nt  99th_Monkey   May-29-11 02:25 PM   #56 
  - Exactly. There are Community Development Funds....  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 02:38 PM   #60 
     - I love this stuff.  99th_Monkey   May-29-11 07:02 PM   #75 
        - Well then, you're a wealth of information!  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 07:09 PM   #76 
           - I couldn't agree more ...  99th_Monkey   May-30-11 12:06 AM   #79 
              - Wow, may I use that description?  OneGrassRoot   May-30-11 06:08 AM   #80 
                 - Sure. I don't have it copyrighted, so have at it. I feel honored to have you ask. nt  99th_Monkey   May-30-11 05:09 PM   #91 
  - Ooooh, I'd love for you to join in ongoing discussion about this!  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 02:35 PM   #59 
  - "wi-fi coops" = great idea.  Hannah Bell   May-30-11 01:39 PM   #90 
  - Dear LeTazHot, you inadvertently point to an experience I"ve had with co-ops. They often involve the  KittyWampus   May-29-11 01:44 PM   #55 
     - That's a shame.  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 02:43 PM   #61 
     - That may end up being the case, but  Le Taz Hot   May-30-11 08:53 AM   #86 
  - I use co-op when I'm talking about DIRECT worker  socialist_n_TN   May-29-11 10:48 AM   #17 
  - It's most viable on a truly grassroots local level, imho...  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 11:01 AM   #18 
     - But my dream is to implement local grassroots cooperative ventures...  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 11:07 AM   #19 
     - RE: your last sentence, yes, it's common sense, but  socialist_n_TN   May-29-11 11:10 AM   #20 
        - I agree....  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 11:19 AM   #24 
           - Well, I've studied and read a lot of Leon Trotsky  socialist_n_TN   May-29-11 11:40 AM   #26 
              - ...  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 11:43 AM   #27 
  - Sharing the work/investment on/in any consensually agreed upon (identifiable) objective/mission.  patrice   May-29-11 11:11 AM   #21 
  - Yes, thank you. :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 11:48 AM   #35 
  - ! OneGrassRoot . . .  patrice   May-29-11 12:31 PM   #43 
  - Implemented by means of mutually agreed upon tools for accountability and planning. nt  patrice   May-29-11 12:32 PM   #44 
     - a la Paulo Freire!  patrice   May-29-11 01:39 PM   #53 
        - via W. Edwards Deming  patrice   May-29-11 01:40 PM   #54 
  - I think about food co-ops.  InvisibleTouch   May-29-11 11:13 AM   #22 
  - Yes, I'm trying to expand the possibilities as it concerns co-ops....  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 11:49 AM   #36 
  - Two come to mind . . .  janet118   May-29-11 11:15 AM   #23 
  - I couldn't agree more....  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 11:49 AM   #37 
  - An honest answer -- It's not the kind of subject that ever gets much response on DU  Armstead   May-29-11 11:44 AM   #28 
  - I hear you....  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 11:46 AM   #31 
     - No you are not-  PotatoChip   May-29-11 04:33 PM   #66 
        - Here are two good links:  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 04:48 PM   #69 
           - Also, here's an online newspaper of sorts where I'm gathering info...  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 04:50 PM   #70 
           - I have yet to check out the 2nd link  PotatoChip   May-29-11 05:02 PM   #72 
  - One of the largest grocery chains in Norway  KitSileya   May-29-11 11:45 AM   #29 
  - So many ways this could be beneficial, to so many. Thanks. :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 11:48 AM   #34 
     - Yeah, in Norway, grocery shops are concentrated in very few chains  KitSileya   May-29-11 12:00 PM   #42 
        - Interesting. I think neighborhood grocery co-ops, especially....  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 01:04 PM   #49 
  - Worker-run businesses, they are common in my neck of the woods.  Odin2005   May-29-11 11:46 AM   #30 
  - Yep, my searches often turn up Minnesota and Wisconsin....  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 11:47 AM   #32 
     - Thanks!  Odin2005   May-29-11 11:52 AM   #40 
  - I once lived in a Co-op building  Canuckistanian   May-29-11 11:47 AM   #33 
  - Awesome. Cooperation. So much could be done with more of it. n/t  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 11:50 AM   #38 
  - Sharing costs to the common good of those involved in an enterprise. I have direct  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-29-11 11:51 AM   #39 
  - IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN EXPLORING THIS FURTHER.....  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 11:58 AM   #41 
  - FB'd. nt  patrice   May-29-11 12:35 PM   #45 
     - Gracias! :)  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 01:01 PM   #48 
  - I am most familiar with co-ops as seen in Iowa. The old electric co-ops  jwirr   May-29-11 12:48 PM   #47 
  - You raise excellent points.  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 01:22 PM   #51 
  - I think of Mondragon Spain  99th_Monkey   May-29-11 02:28 PM   #57 
  - That's the Holy Grail of examples. They "mentored" Evergreen...  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 02:33 PM   #58 
  - I managed a co-op for a number of years  canetoad   May-29-11 03:17 PM   #62 
  - Thanks for sharing your experience, canetoad...  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 07:10 PM   #77 
  - I'm glad to see this and the responses.  mmonk   May-29-11 03:45 PM   #63 
  - I belonged to a co-op for a short time in the 80s. It was grocery store where members  Liberal_in_LA   May-29-11 03:47 PM   #64 
  - Sounds great to me!  stevenleser   May-29-11 04:06 PM   #65 
  - Awesome! I shall add you to the list of those interested in exploring this more. :)  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 07:12 PM   #78 
  - A Co-operative, that is strength in numbers  Taverner   May-29-11 04:41 PM   #67 
  - I would love to start an IT Co-operative  Taverner   May-29-11 04:42 PM   #68 
  - You guys have NO IDEA how happy this thread has made me...  OneGrassRoot   May-29-11 04:53 PM   #71 
  - Please do bug us. :)  InvisibleTouch   May-29-11 06:22 PM   #74 
  - Co-op means extraordinarily high prices.  divvy   May-30-11 07:02 AM   #81 
  - Where and what type of co-op, may I ask? n/t  OneGrassRoot   May-30-11 08:03 AM   #83 
     - It is a health / natural food co-op  divvy   May-30-11 08:42 AM   #84 
        - Any type of venture can be a failure if not done right...  OneGrassRoot   May-30-11 08:44 AM   #85 
  - The Google LOVES DU.  OneGrassRoot   May-30-11 08:03 AM   #82 
  - In Florida we were members of a rural electric co-op  JCMach1   May-30-11 09:51 AM   #87 
     - I don't have personal experience with utility co-ops...  OneGrassRoot   May-30-11 09:54 AM   #88 
        - Pretty much like a regular utility company with the exception that the profits  JCMach1   May-30-11 01:37 PM   #89 

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