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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 07:01 PM
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86. "There are millions of books, literally, that are not digitalized"
(Digitalized?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Books

"In 2010 Google estimated that there are about 130 million unique books in the world (129,864,880 to be exact), and that it intends to scan all of them by the end of the decade.<11><12>On October 14, 2010 Google announced that the number of scanned books is over 15 million.<13> Most scanned works are no longer in print or commercially available.<14>"

Let me know if your local library has 15 million books, or the local librarian has read even 1% of them... because that sounds like an interesting place.
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  -Los Angeles laying off 85 librarians. Tells them they are not teachers. madfloridian  May-28-11 05:34 PM   #0 
  - This is disgusting and unfair. n/t  pnwmom   May-28-11 05:35 PM   #1 
  - Yes it is.  madfloridian   May-28-11 06:02 PM   #4 
  - They're not bankers or CEOs or in the oil business  LetTimmySmoke   May-28-11 05:39 PM   #2 
  - In a strange way maybe we will have a better society when none work, it will  RKP5637   May-28-11 05:46 PM   #3 
  - Yeah. Except for those pesky billionaires.  WinkyDink   May-28-11 06:24 PM   #7 
  - Damn, I forgot about them! Darn!!! n/t  RKP5637   May-28-11 06:32 PM   #10 
  - Yeah they want a society that looks like this:  Initech   May-29-11 03:16 PM   #74 
     - Erie and soooo cold looking, reeking of regimentation and control freaks.  RKP5637   May-29-11 03:39 PM   #76 
     - Exactly.  Initech   May-29-11 03:43 PM   #77 
     - it always boggles my mind...  awoke_in_2003   Jun-03-11 12:33 PM   #120 
  - I know some here won't like me saying this  customerserviceguy   May-28-11 06:11 PM   #5 
  - The reason is money-savings, not Kindle purchases.  WinkyDink   May-28-11 06:26 PM   #8 
  - And when governments look to save money  customerserviceguy   May-28-11 09:16 PM   #15 
     - Libraries are obsolete things?  MadHound   May-28-11 10:39 PM   #31 
     - +1  ohnoyoudidnt   May-28-11 11:07 PM   #37 
     - "There are millions of books, literally, that are not digitalized"  boppers   May-29-11 07:01 PM   #86 
     - Librarians and libraries are "obsolete things" in your book (Kindle)?  leveymg   May-29-11 12:39 PM   #52 
  - That is just not true. It's sad you think so.  madfloridian   May-28-11 06:26 PM   #9 
  - When all human knowledge  customerserviceguy   May-28-11 09:18 PM   #16 
     - Guess what.  madfloridian   May-28-11 10:14 PM   #21 
     - Librarians do far more than just take care of books  csziggy   May-28-11 10:26 PM   #26 
     - The people who file books back on the shelves are non-degreed staff members  Book Lover   May-29-11 12:26 AM   #40 
     - uh huh. you need to go volunteer at a small, local archive  JanMichael   May-29-11 06:55 AM   #43 
     - Hear, hear.  RandomKoolzip   May-29-11 02:05 PM   #61 
     - +1000  Dokkie   May-29-11 02:14 PM   #65 
     - Apparently grammar, spelling and syntax are also doomed to be relics of the past.  RandomKoolzip   May-29-11 02:18 PM   #67 
        - Grammaw and Speeling is so 20th century! :)  coalition_unwilling   May-29-11 03:10 PM   #73 
        - Maybe if that poster had had a librarian in his life to help him out....  RandomKoolzip   May-29-11 03:25 PM   #75 
        - Kick - wish I'd said what you wrote.  Pooka Fey   May-29-11 03:43 PM   #78 
        - apparently grammar policing  Dokkie   May-29-11 04:03 PM   #79 
        - So let me get this straight:  RandomKoolzip   May-29-11 04:36 PM   #80 
        - Not really  Dokkie   May-29-11 04:59 PM   #82 
        - You also wrote a double negative  Occulus   May-29-11 08:57 PM   #93 
           - Unfortunately I slipped off  Dokkie   May-30-11 12:16 AM   #101 
        - My thoughts too after reading the post!  emsimon33   Jun-03-11 12:05 AM   #116 
     - I didn't know every book ever written had been digitized.  Occulus   May-29-11 08:54 PM   #92 
        - lol. you will pay: that's the plan. if you want information, you will pay.  Hannah Bell   May-31-11 12:51 AM   #112 
  - not everyone can afford the latest toys...  madrchsod   May-28-11 06:35 PM   #11 
  - That's what I was told in 1973  customerserviceguy   May-28-11 09:20 PM   #17 
     - Absolute bullshit.  RandomKoolzip   May-29-11 01:49 PM   #53 
     - !!!!!  Odin2005   May-29-11 02:09 PM   #62 
     - 1. See #86  boppers   May-29-11 07:16 PM   #87 
     - I'm sorry you wasted your time typing that.  Occulus   May-29-11 09:06 PM   #95 
     - When the power goes out I guess we will all be thrown  eilen   May-29-11 01:54 PM   #54 
        - That's one of the reasons I prefer physical books.  Odin2005   May-29-11 02:11 PM   #63 
  - Not eveyone can afford internet access or a Kindle.  Odin2005   May-28-11 06:50 PM   #12 
  - Telephone service used to be quite costly once upon a time, as well  customerserviceguy   May-28-11 09:23 PM   #18 
  - Is it irony or design?  ohheckyeah   May-30-11 01:02 AM   #105 
  - how about customer service guys?  CreekDog   May-28-11 07:42 PM   #13 
  - We get outsourced to India, etc. all the time  customerserviceguy   May-28-11 09:26 PM   #19 
     - yes, yes, bow down & accept your cogitude.  Hannah Bell   May-28-11 10:27 PM   #28 
     - I hope you don't need to earn a Master's degree for each of those jobs.  eilen   May-29-11 01:56 PM   #55 
  - School librarians are as essential as they've always been.  pnwmom   May-28-11 08:12 PM   #14 
  - Yes, the librarianship courses at institutions of higher education  customerserviceguy   May-28-11 09:31 PM   #20 
     - i was trying to be polite, but this: "that will get you a job asking people if they want fries"  Hannah Bell   May-28-11 10:22 PM   #25 
     - "Young people are learning research skills on a level unimaginable"  WhollyHeretic   May-28-11 10:32 PM   #29 
     - The best research skills I learned were taught by a teacher who told us to go the the library.  boppers   May-29-11 08:41 PM   #91 
     - Did you miss the part that the librarians in question  csziggy   May-28-11 10:33 PM   #30 
     - I think they "reeducated" the college professors first  eilen   May-29-11 02:00 PM   #59 
     - Yes, they teach how to access information, how to analyze  suffragette   May-29-11 02:48 PM   #69 
        - Exactly, and that is why librarians or "information technologists"  csziggy   May-29-11 09:01 PM   #94 
     - Sometimes I cannot believe the stuff I read here.  EFerrari   May-28-11 11:01 PM   #35 
     - Mention teachers, librarians, libraries, public education...  madfloridian   May-29-11 01:13 AM   #41 
     - Some people are just fucking ignorant and proud of it.  Odin2005   May-29-11 02:13 PM   #64 
     - You and me both.  suffragette   May-29-11 02:42 PM   #68 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-29-11 09:16 PM   #97 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-29-11 01:56 PM   #56 
     - Have you worked with any young people lately?  eilen   May-29-11 01:59 PM   #57 
     - You are so damn condescending  Occulus   May-29-11 09:14 PM   #96 
  - i think you don't know what libraries do or who uses them.  Hannah Bell   May-28-11 10:21 PM   #24 
  - Sounds that way to me.  madfloridian   May-29-11 10:53 PM   #99 
  - Libraries are more than books  emsimon33   Jun-03-11 12:08 AM   #118 
  - Yeah, and other than a school librarian, teachers rarely have Library Science degrees.  HopeHoops   May-28-11 06:15 PM   #6 
  - It's amazing what a post about librarians will cause to happen.  madfloridian   May-28-11 10:20 PM   #22 
  - just give up. everything they're doing is wonderful, the old world is obsolete, we have computers!  Hannah Bell   May-28-11 10:27 PM   #27 
  - Sometimes I feel like doing that.  madfloridian   May-29-11 12:09 AM   #39 
  - Librarians ARE learning new skills.  RandomKoolzip   May-29-11 02:00 PM   #58 
     - It's a tragic move. Again there is no one speaking out against it.  madfloridian   May-30-11 12:36 AM   #102 
     - and personally, that's one of the reasons i value regional and local libraries.  Hannah Bell   May-30-11 02:28 PM   #108 
        - So do I. I treasure books.  madfloridian   May-30-11 11:52 PM   #110 
  - I'm not surprised.  JVS   May-30-11 12:38 AM   #103 
     - Me., too. Disgusted that is.  madfloridian   May-30-11 12:51 AM   #104 
  - kr  Hannah Bell   May-28-11 10:21 PM   #23 
  - One of my theories about why the mad dash to fire librarians  csziggy   May-28-11 10:40 PM   #32 
  - +1  proud2BlibKansan   May-28-11 10:45 PM   #33 
  - Bingo. n/t  EFerrari   May-28-11 11:02 PM   #36 
  - excellent observation nt  ohnoyoudidnt   May-28-11 11:09 PM   #38 
  - Didn't they openly oppose FBI book searches after 9/11?  underpants   May-29-11 07:17 AM   #46 
  - Yes, they did. Here's one article.  madfloridian   May-29-11 09:34 AM   #48 
  - And in fighting back against this, the librarians exposed  suffragette   May-29-11 02:57 PM   #71 
  - They stopped keeping records of who took out what  eilen   May-29-11 02:05 PM   #60 
  - Wow, the character in that book sounds like Julian Assange!  Odin2005   May-29-11 02:15 PM   #66 
     - Unfortunately, I can't remember  eilen   May-29-11 06:22 PM   #84 
  - Yes the ALA promoted resistance and librarians actively did it  csziggy   May-29-11 09:33 PM   #98 
  - Spot on!  suffragette   May-29-11 02:50 PM   #70 
  - Apparently a lot of people here have no idea what a school librarian actually does  WhollyHeretic   May-28-11 10:57 PM   #34 
  - I don't know about California  ChoralScholar   May-29-11 01:52 AM   #42 
  - That's how it is in Florida. Here's a part about CA  madfloridian   May-29-11 09:31 AM   #47 
  - This is so despicable.  dotymed   May-29-11 07:12 AM   #44 
  - My mother was a school librarian for 30+ years and I learned a LOT from her  underpants   May-29-11 07:16 AM   #45 
  - "Google jumps over all those steps now"  boppers   May-29-11 07:21 PM   #88 
  - Our school librarian does so much for our kids...  Reader Rabbit   May-29-11 09:44 AM   #49 
  - Ours would help them on research projects, help them organize around a theme.  madfloridian   May-29-11 11:59 AM   #51 
  - Librarians fought the National Security Letter and the gag  madfloridian   May-29-11 09:45 AM   #50 
  - Here is one of the great signs used by the brave librarians.  madfloridian   May-30-11 12:13 AM   #100 
  - Another sign:  madfloridian   May-30-11 08:23 PM   #109 
  - Why isn't UTLA threatening a district-wide walkout over this? That's the  coalition_unwilling   May-29-11 03:05 PM   #72 
  - they just sold out the membership -- again. more "unpaid leave". and 1700 teachers still being  Hannah Bell   May-31-11 12:48 AM   #111 
  - Dupe  Recursion   Jun-02-11 04:36 PM   # 
  - Because they don't want classroom teachers to lose their jobs instead  Recursion   Jun-02-11 04:36 PM   #114 
  - Strike! It is the only response.  Citizen Worker   May-29-11 04:49 PM   #81 
  - Don't know about CA, but in FL it is illegal for teachers to strike.  madfloridian   May-29-11 05:08 PM   #83 
  - I don't understand.  individual rights   May-29-11 06:32 PM   #85 
  - Yes, thousands of people are going to lose their jobs.  madfloridian   May-29-11 07:50 PM   #90 
  - They are closing the libraries and the schools. But it appears they  david13   May-29-11 07:23 PM   #89 
  - And I am due beer and travel money, and many experiences.  RandomThoughts   May-30-11 01:04 AM   #106 
  - They have enough money to hire consultants and pay superintendents huge salaries.  madfloridian   May-30-11 10:00 AM   #107 
  - Democracy, be gone with you!!  Shireling   Jun-02-11 02:44 PM   #113 
  - Librarians and their Books: The Caretakers of a Stable Archival Medium...  xocet   Jun-02-11 08:19 PM   #115 
  - With all the wars we're fighting  LetTimmySmoke   Jun-03-11 12:08 AM   #117 
  - there is an all out assault on education...  awoke_in_2003   Jun-03-11 12:30 PM   #119 
     - Laura Bush & GOP Talked About Being A Librarian For 8 Years  Dirigo   Jun-05-11 01:44 PM   #121 
 

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