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Sun May-29-11 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #74 |
| 76. Erie and soooo cold looking, reeking of regimentation and control freaks. |
| -Los Angeles laying off 85 librarians. Tells them they are not teachers. |
madfloridian |
May-28-11 05:34 PM |
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This is disgusting and unfair. n/t |
pnwmom |
May-28-11 05:35 PM |
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Yes it is. |
madfloridian |
May-28-11 06:02 PM |
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They're not bankers or CEOs or in the oil business |
LetTimmySmoke |
May-28-11 05:39 PM |
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In a strange way maybe we will have a better society when none work, it will |
RKP5637 |
May-28-11 05:46 PM |
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Yeah. Except for those pesky billionaires. |
WinkyDink |
May-28-11 06:24 PM |
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Damn, I forgot about them! Darn!!! n/t |
RKP5637 |
May-28-11 06:32 PM |
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Yeah they want a society that looks like this: |
Initech |
May-29-11 03:16 PM |
#74 |
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Erie and soooo cold looking, reeking of regimentation and control freaks. |
RKP5637 |
May-29-11 03:39 PM |
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Exactly. |
Initech |
May-29-11 03:43 PM |
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it always boggles my mind... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jun-03-11 12:33 PM |
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I know some here won't like me saying this |
customerserviceguy |
May-28-11 06:11 PM |
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The reason is money-savings, not Kindle purchases. |
WinkyDink |
May-28-11 06:26 PM |
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And when governments look to save money |
customerserviceguy |
May-28-11 09:16 PM |
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Libraries are obsolete things? |
MadHound |
May-28-11 10:39 PM |
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+1 |
ohnoyoudidnt |
May-28-11 11:07 PM |
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"There are millions of books, literally, that are not digitalized" |
boppers |
May-29-11 07:01 PM |
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Librarians and libraries are "obsolete things" in your book (Kindle)? |
leveymg |
May-29-11 12:39 PM |
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That is just not true. It's sad you think so. |
madfloridian |
May-28-11 06:26 PM |
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When all human knowledge |
customerserviceguy |
May-28-11 09:18 PM |
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Guess what. |
madfloridian |
May-28-11 10:14 PM |
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Librarians do far more than just take care of books |
csziggy |
May-28-11 10:26 PM |
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The people who file books back on the shelves are non-degreed staff members |
Book Lover |
May-29-11 12:26 AM |
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uh huh. you need to go volunteer at a small, local archive |
JanMichael |
May-29-11 06:55 AM |
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Hear, hear. |
RandomKoolzip |
May-29-11 02:05 PM |
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+1000 |
Dokkie |
May-29-11 02:14 PM |
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Apparently grammar, spelling and syntax are also doomed to be relics of the past. |
RandomKoolzip |
May-29-11 02:18 PM |
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Grammaw and Speeling is so 20th century! :) |
coalition_unwilling |
May-29-11 03:10 PM |
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Maybe if that poster had had a librarian in his life to help him out.... |
RandomKoolzip |
May-29-11 03:25 PM |
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Kick - wish I'd said what you wrote. |
Pooka Fey |
May-29-11 03:43 PM |
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apparently grammar policing |
Dokkie |
May-29-11 04:03 PM |
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So let me get this straight: |
RandomKoolzip |
May-29-11 04:36 PM |
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Not really |
Dokkie |
May-29-11 04:59 PM |
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You also wrote a double negative |
Occulus |
May-29-11 08:57 PM |
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Unfortunately I slipped off |
Dokkie |
May-30-11 12:16 AM |
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My thoughts too after reading the post! |
emsimon33 |
Jun-03-11 12:05 AM |
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I didn't know every book ever written had been digitized. |
Occulus |
May-29-11 08:54 PM |
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lol. you will pay: that's the plan. if you want information, you will pay. |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 12:51 AM |
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not everyone can afford the latest toys... |
madrchsod |
May-28-11 06:35 PM |
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That's what I was told in 1973 |
customerserviceguy |
May-28-11 09:20 PM |
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Absolute bullshit. |
RandomKoolzip |
May-29-11 01:49 PM |
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!!!!! |
Odin2005 |
May-29-11 02:09 PM |
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1. See #86 |
boppers |
May-29-11 07:16 PM |
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I'm sorry you wasted your time typing that. |
Occulus |
May-29-11 09:06 PM |
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When the power goes out I guess we will all be thrown |
eilen |
May-29-11 01:54 PM |
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That's one of the reasons I prefer physical books. |
Odin2005 |
May-29-11 02:11 PM |
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Not eveyone can afford internet access or a Kindle. |
Odin2005 |
May-28-11 06:50 PM |
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Telephone service used to be quite costly once upon a time, as well |
customerserviceguy |
May-28-11 09:23 PM |
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Is it irony or design? |
ohheckyeah |
May-30-11 01:02 AM |
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how about customer service guys? |
CreekDog |
May-28-11 07:42 PM |
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We get outsourced to India, etc. all the time |
customerserviceguy |
May-28-11 09:26 PM |
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yes, yes, bow down & accept your cogitude. |
Hannah Bell |
May-28-11 10:27 PM |
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I hope you don't need to earn a Master's degree for each of those jobs. |
eilen |
May-29-11 01:56 PM |
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School librarians are as essential as they've always been. |
pnwmom |
May-28-11 08:12 PM |
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Yes, the librarianship courses at institutions of higher education |
customerserviceguy |
May-28-11 09:31 PM |
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i was trying to be polite, but this: "that will get you a job asking people if they want fries" |
Hannah Bell |
May-28-11 10:22 PM |
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"Young people are learning research skills on a level unimaginable" |
WhollyHeretic |
May-28-11 10:32 PM |
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The best research skills I learned were taught by a teacher who told us to go the the library. |
boppers |
May-29-11 08:41 PM |
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Did you miss the part that the librarians in question |
csziggy |
May-28-11 10:33 PM |
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I think they "reeducated" the college professors first |
eilen |
May-29-11 02:00 PM |
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Yes, they teach how to access information, how to analyze |
suffragette |
May-29-11 02:48 PM |
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Exactly, and that is why librarians or "information technologists" |
csziggy |
May-29-11 09:01 PM |
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Sometimes I cannot believe the stuff I read here. |
EFerrari |
May-28-11 11:01 PM |
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Mention teachers, librarians, libraries, public education... |
madfloridian |
May-29-11 01:13 AM |
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Some people are just fucking ignorant and proud of it. |
Odin2005 |
May-29-11 02:13 PM |
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You and me both. |
suffragette |
May-29-11 02:42 PM |
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May-29-11 09:16 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
May-29-11 01:56 PM |
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Have you worked with any young people lately? |
eilen |
May-29-11 01:59 PM |
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You are so damn condescending |
Occulus |
May-29-11 09:14 PM |
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i think you don't know what libraries do or who uses them. |
Hannah Bell |
May-28-11 10:21 PM |
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Sounds that way to me. |
madfloridian |
May-29-11 10:53 PM |
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Libraries are more than books |
emsimon33 |
Jun-03-11 12:08 AM |
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Yeah, and other than a school librarian, teachers rarely have Library Science degrees. |
HopeHoops |
May-28-11 06:15 PM |
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It's amazing what a post about librarians will cause to happen. |
madfloridian |
May-28-11 10:20 PM |
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just give up. everything they're doing is wonderful, the old world is obsolete, we have computers! |
Hannah Bell |
May-28-11 10:27 PM |
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Sometimes I feel like doing that. |
madfloridian |
May-29-11 12:09 AM |
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Librarians ARE learning new skills. |
RandomKoolzip |
May-29-11 02:00 PM |
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It's a tragic move. Again there is no one speaking out against it. |
madfloridian |
May-30-11 12:36 AM |
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and personally, that's one of the reasons i value regional and local libraries. |
Hannah Bell |
May-30-11 02:28 PM |
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So do I. I treasure books. |
madfloridian |
May-30-11 11:52 PM |
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I'm not surprised. |
JVS |
May-30-11 12:38 AM |
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Me., too. Disgusted that is. |
madfloridian |
May-30-11 12:51 AM |
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kr |
Hannah Bell |
May-28-11 10:21 PM |
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One of my theories about why the mad dash to fire librarians |
csziggy |
May-28-11 10:40 PM |
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+1 |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-28-11 10:45 PM |
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Bingo. n/t |
EFerrari |
May-28-11 11:02 PM |
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excellent observation nt |
ohnoyoudidnt |
May-28-11 11:09 PM |
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Didn't they openly oppose FBI book searches after 9/11? |
underpants |
May-29-11 07:17 AM |
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Yes, they did. Here's one article. |
madfloridian |
May-29-11 09:34 AM |
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And in fighting back against this, the librarians exposed |
suffragette |
May-29-11 02:57 PM |
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They stopped keeping records of who took out what |
eilen |
May-29-11 02:05 PM |
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Wow, the character in that book sounds like Julian Assange! |
Odin2005 |
May-29-11 02:15 PM |
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Unfortunately, I can't remember |
eilen |
May-29-11 06:22 PM |
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Yes the ALA promoted resistance and librarians actively did it |
csziggy |
May-29-11 09:33 PM |
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Spot on! |
suffragette |
May-29-11 02:50 PM |
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Apparently a lot of people here have no idea what a school librarian actually does |
WhollyHeretic |
May-28-11 10:57 PM |
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I don't know about California |
ChoralScholar |
May-29-11 01:52 AM |
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That's how it is in Florida. Here's a part about CA |
madfloridian |
May-29-11 09:31 AM |
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This is so despicable. |
dotymed |
May-29-11 07:12 AM |
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My mother was a school librarian for 30+ years and I learned a LOT from her |
underpants |
May-29-11 07:16 AM |
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"Google jumps over all those steps now" |
boppers |
May-29-11 07:21 PM |
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Our school librarian does so much for our kids... |
Reader Rabbit |
May-29-11 09:44 AM |
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Ours would help them on research projects, help them organize around a theme. |
madfloridian |
May-29-11 11:59 AM |
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Librarians fought the National Security Letter and the gag |
madfloridian |
May-29-11 09:45 AM |
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Here is one of the great signs used by the brave librarians. |
madfloridian |
May-30-11 12:13 AM |
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Another sign: |
madfloridian |
May-30-11 08:23 PM |
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Why isn't UTLA threatening a district-wide walkout over this? That's the |
coalition_unwilling |
May-29-11 03:05 PM |
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they just sold out the membership -- again. more "unpaid leave". and 1700 teachers still being |
Hannah Bell |
May-31-11 12:48 AM |
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Dupe |
Recursion |
Jun-02-11 04:36 PM |
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Because they don't want classroom teachers to lose their jobs instead |
Recursion |
Jun-02-11 04:36 PM |
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Strike! It is the only response. |
Citizen Worker |
May-29-11 04:49 PM |
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Don't know about CA, but in FL it is illegal for teachers to strike. |
madfloridian |
May-29-11 05:08 PM |
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I don't understand. |
individual rights |
May-29-11 06:32 PM |
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Yes, thousands of people are going to lose their jobs. |
madfloridian |
May-29-11 07:50 PM |
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They are closing the libraries and the schools. But it appears they |
david13 |
May-29-11 07:23 PM |
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And I am due beer and travel money, and many experiences. |
RandomThoughts |
May-30-11 01:04 AM |
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They have enough money to hire consultants and pay superintendents huge salaries. |
madfloridian |
May-30-11 10:00 AM |
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Democracy, be gone with you!! |
Shireling |
Jun-02-11 02:44 PM |
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Librarians and their Books: The Caretakers of a Stable Archival Medium... |
xocet |
Jun-02-11 08:19 PM |
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With all the wars we're fighting |
LetTimmySmoke |
Jun-03-11 12:08 AM |
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there is an all out assault on education... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jun-03-11 12:30 PM |
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Laura Bush & GOP Talked About Being A Librarian For 8 Years |
Dirigo |
Jun-05-11 01:44 PM |
#121 |