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Corruption Winz Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 06:00 AM
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45. While I can understand where he is coming from...
at the end of the day, the Bible isn't the best plowshare. The people within the religious community that do the "strangest things" to outsiders, can easily find justification for their actions if they we're to even scan the pages.

It's simply not a decent moral barometer. Not accepting gay people, for example, is in the book. Clear as day. I could go on, but I think you get where I'm going with this.
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  -Retired pastor knows why people dont like Christians any more sufrommich  May-28-11 11:29 AM   #0 
  - Now there's a man of true faith.  aquart   May-28-11 11:33 AM   #1 
  - he remembers church the way i do -- many of us do.  xchrom   May-28-11 11:36 AM   #2 
  - I've heard Vatican 2 was a very good thing for the Catholic Church.  white_wolf   May-28-11 12:08 PM   #12 
     - i'm a fan of liturgical churches generally speaking.  xchrom   May-28-11 12:20 PM   #13 
  - The other thing is the use of "christian" as a marketing tool.  undeterred   May-28-11 11:37 AM   #3 
  - When churches have marketing directors instead of ministers to the poor...  Dappleganger   May-28-11 08:35 PM   #18 
  - Me too; I won't patronize the "fish" bizzes, and I consider myself Christian too. nt  blondeatlast   May-28-11 08:51 PM   #22 
  - Yeah, if I see that damn ChristianSingles commercial one more time  Stevenmarc   May-29-11 12:49 AM   #33 
  - LOL - Same here. On both counts. n/t  Beartracks   May-29-11 01:04 AM   #34 
  - Good stuff - and I'm not religious  slay   May-28-11 11:37 AM   #4 
  - I'm not religious either, but I respect the pastors understanding of  sufrommich   May-28-11 11:40 AM   #6 
  - He's mistaken  nichomachus   May-28-11 11:39 AM   #5 
  - That is a hard conce[pt for rational people to get -  RaleighNCDUer   May-29-11 02:33 AM   #42 
  - United Methodist --  cilla4progress   May-28-11 11:43 AM   #7 
  - It makes me proud to be a member.  xmas74   May-29-11 08:57 AM   #69 
  - If I ever went back to church it would be to this one. In our conservative rural  eagertolearn   May-29-11 11:05 AM   #72 
     - I agree -  cilla4progress   May-29-11 11:58 AM   #74 
        - we don't have that here but that would be my first choice.  eagertolearn   Jun-01-11 11:03 PM   #90 
  - I've been seeing this for sometime.  The Backlash Cometh   May-28-11 11:44 AM   #8 
  - So far the only ones I can stand...  pipi_k   May-28-11 11:45 AM   #9 
  - Mennonites come in all flavors...  Dappleganger   May-28-11 08:38 PM   #19 
  - I think the ones near me...  pipi_k   May-28-11 08:44 PM   #21 
  - Around here they seem to sexually abuse young girls and also run puppy mills n/t  RayOfHope   May-28-11 09:33 PM   #25 
  - Once upon a time  sulphurdunn   May-29-11 08:14 AM   #63 
  - The right wing hijacked Christianity much like Arab extremist hijacked Islam. n/t  Scuba   May-28-11 12:00 PM   #10 
  - The right wing hijacked Christianity much like Arab extremist hijacked Islam. n/t  Scuba   May-28-11 12:00 PM   #11 
  - Not all of it, but the fact that they use "Christian" to refer exclusively to themselves  Lydia Leftcoast   May-28-11 12:25 PM   #14 
     - I've been pissed about this since about 1980.  Hardrada   May-29-11 01:19 AM   #37 
     - Hardrada  Diclotican   May-29-11 08:49 AM   #68 
        - Hopperstad Church  Hardrada   May-29-11 10:57 PM   #82 
           - Hardrada  Diclotican   May-30-11 04:34 PM   #89 
     - I think there is a huge Catholic presence in right wing politics.  sufrommich   May-29-11 07:25 AM   #55 
  - I like Christ, but I don't like Christianity.  roamer65   May-28-11 12:37 PM   #15 
  - I think the actual quote goes something like this..  johnroshan   May-29-11 11:24 PM   #86 
  - "Those who beat their swords into plowshares will work for those who don't."  sofa king   May-28-11 05:05 PM   #16 
  - so religion is about dominance to you?  RainDog   May-29-11 12:04 AM   #31 
     - Heh. What?  sofa king   May-29-11 08:05 AM   #59 
        - I think religion serves different purposes  RainDog   May-29-11 01:43 PM   #77 
  - When I complain about false Christian's and true Christians,  tavalon   May-28-11 08:27 PM   #17 
  - 'Pastor Minor needs to come out of retirement.'  Angry Dragon   May-28-11 08:42 PM   #20 
  - Actually, that is more prevalent than it appears.  polmaven   May-29-11 07:55 AM   #57 
  - Being a Christian is like being a leader.  lfairban   May-28-11 09:20 PM   #23 
  - Finally, we have found a Christian.  Curmudgeoness   May-28-11 09:28 PM   #24 
  - From the N.S. Sherlock Research Institute.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-28-11 09:36 PM   #26 
  - I don't trust them.  penndragon69   May-28-11 10:30 PM   #27 
  - Being a rather "non-active" Methodist...  silverlib   May-28-11 10:37 PM   #28 
  - It does.  xmas74   May-29-11 09:12 AM   #71 
  - I always liked the Methodists. n/t  FourScore   May-28-11 11:30 PM   #29 
  - the Bible has always been a book with which to bludgeon people. nt  Javaman   May-28-11 11:38 PM   #30 
  - In other words.... religion doesn't work...  MrMickeysMom   May-29-11 12:17 AM   #32 
  - Yes .... they are a tax-free Republican PAC  divvy   May-29-11 06:17 AM   #49 
  - It is always those false Scotsmen the ones who make the true Scotsmen look bad...  liberation   May-29-11 01:08 AM   #35 
  - Sorry, but I'm not into hri$tianity!  Joe Bacon   May-29-11 01:15 AM   #36 
  - Yeah! for Him  dballance   May-29-11 01:39 AM   #38 
  - yeah, blah blah blah. their faith is just as good as yours. they're just assholes too, is all.  enki23   May-29-11 01:49 AM   #39 
  - I say, without irony, Amen  Viking 1   May-29-11 02:11 AM   #40 
  - The man is obviously a Communist  rationalcalgarian   May-29-11 02:23 AM   #41 
  - When I see rare items like this one, it does give me a little encouragement.  calimary   May-29-11 03:19 AM   #43 
  - When has the Bible NOT been used  skepticscott   May-29-11 06:22 AM   #50 
     - Point well taken. I'm a Catholic. And we have a very long tradition of using the Bible  calimary   May-29-11 05:14 PM   #80 
  - Raping Boys, Killing Women and Drs  Pubs_R_Racist   May-29-11 05:14 AM   #44 
  - While I can understand where he is coming from...  Corruption Winz   May-29-11 06:00 AM   #45 
  - While I can understand where he is coming from...  Corruption Winz   May-29-11 06:03 AM   #46 
  - Don't get me started .......  divvy   May-29-11 06:12 AM   #47 
  - "...the Bible has become a book with which to bludgeon people"  peace frog   May-29-11 06:13 AM   #48 
  - "I will believe the pastor's sincerity when he wields his influence to enlighten Christians"  sufrommich   May-29-11 08:12 AM   #60 
     - That was then, this is now  peace frog   May-29-11 08:15 AM   #64 
        - Um, I think that's what he's doing with the editorial. nt  sufrommich   May-29-11 08:17 AM   #65 
           - Um, I think I applauded his editorial  peace frog   May-29-11 08:39 AM   #67 
  - Amen. n/t  myrna minx   May-29-11 06:31 AM   #51 
  - sorry, the key to reversing the trend is to completely abandon religion  reggie the dog   May-29-11 07:04 AM   #52 
  - Sure ,that's going to happen. nt  sufrommich   May-29-11 07:16 AM   #54 
     - over a third of us in France have abandoned religion and no loger  reggie the dog   May-29-11 08:21 AM   #66 
  - Hate and anger feed the Po-Box better than compassion and good will. nt  NorthCarolina   May-29-11 07:14 AM   #53 
  - "using religion as a sword"  moondust   May-29-11 07:35 AM   #56 
  - I notice this so VERY often  Populist_Prole   May-29-11 02:06 PM   #78 
     - American Exceptionalism  moondust   May-29-11 04:10 PM   #79 
  - Fighting wars in the name of Christ  Mosaic   May-29-11 08:04 AM   #58 
  - Pastor Minor Sounds A Lot Like A Community Organizer, Like Jesus.  mikekohr   May-29-11 08:13 AM   #61 
  - Christianity in this country..  sendero   May-29-11 08:13 AM   #62 
  - Minor still sees the people who do wrong as Christians  Bluenorthwest   May-29-11 09:03 AM   #70 
  - Yes..n/t  veganlush   May-29-11 11:07 AM   #73 
  - I just sent this to my Mom  jimmy_dun   May-29-11 01:05 PM   #75 
  - my sentiments, too  RainDog   May-29-11 01:20 PM   #76 
  - kick - b/c it was reposted n/t  RainDog   May-29-11 09:24 PM   #81 
  - You know why people are tired of Christians?  Aerows   May-29-11 11:04 PM   #83 
  - If the Jesus of Nazareth actually returned to earth, the people who  coalition_unwilling   May-30-11 12:07 AM   #87 
  - This was what I remember as a Methodist from my youth.  Jakes Progress   May-29-11 11:08 PM   #84 
  - Although I'm  Duct Tape   May-29-11 11:10 PM   #85 
  - Sadly, the vast bulk of U.S. churches are just part of the Republican GOTV machine these days  Adenoid_Hynkel   May-30-11 01:05 AM   #88 

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