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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 02:53 PM
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55. They already have that choice. It's called an IRA.
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  -In 1997 Clinton pollster Mark Penn said 73% of Dem voters favored privatization of Social Security. madfloridian  May-27-11 10:58 AM   #0 
  - I think he probably lied. n/t  theophilus   May-27-11 11:00 AM   #1 
  - There are Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics  Demeter   May-29-11 08:27 AM   #50 
  - k&r  Starry Messenger   May-27-11 11:06 AM   #2 
  - Could be true  DemInBuckhead   May-27-11 11:07 AM   #3 
  - Exactly. Frame the question as "would you like to be able to  RaleighNCDUer   May-29-11 02:48 PM   #52 
  - And then the stock market crashed and burned.  Lex   May-27-11 11:09 AM   #4 
  - Good point.  madfloridian   May-27-11 11:12 AM   #6 
  - that was my thought... in the 90s investments did well  salin   May-28-11 05:23 AM   #39 
  - IIRC, in 1997 and thereabouts we heard a lot of people talking about  CTyankee   May-27-11 11:09 AM   #5 
  - Exactly..  sendero   May-28-11 11:22 AM   # 
  - Exactly..  sendero   May-28-11 11:22 AM   #43 
  - Well, there were also those who claimed that the era of 'booms and busts'  RaleighNCDUer   May-29-11 02:51 PM   #54 
  - He probably meant Democratic politicians.  blindpig   May-27-11 11:12 AM   #7 
  - In a raging bull market.  JVS   May-27-11 11:13 AM   #8 
  - Bingo. n/t  Mojambo   May-27-11 11:27 AM   #11 
  - I guarantee the pollsters would not find the same eagerness to privatize Social Security....  Raster   May-27-11 11:46 PM   #36 
  - Maybe because Clinton wanted to privatize Social Security? Makes sense  jtown1123   May-27-11 11:14 AM   #9 
  - Thanks for that post by Dean Baker.  madfloridian   May-27-11 11:50 AM   #16 
  - *IF* that's true, I wouldn't be surprised.  bobbolink   May-27-11 11:18 AM   #10 
  - Yep, they are still using the fear factor.  madfloridian   May-27-11 03:02 PM   #20 
  - Right wing PR has kept up the "it won't be there for you" fear mongering.  Overseas   May-27-11 09:29 PM   #28 
  - Mark Penn is a big fat flim flam man out for his own pocketbook.  mod mom   May-27-11 11:30 AM   #12 
  - mark penn is all you had to say.  dionysus   May-27-11 11:33 AM   #13 
  - Same here.  Forkboy   May-27-11 12:10 PM   #18 
     - why yes, i recall...  dionysus   May-27-11 12:14 PM   #19 
  - Mark Penn, need I say more?????  OHdem10   May-27-11 11:39 AM   #14 
  - Mark Penn, Republican weasel mole.  Skidmore   May-27-11 11:47 AM   #15 
  - +1.  Overseas   May-27-11 09:30 PM   #29 
  - Nope. You've pretty well covered it.  Raster   May-27-11 11:47 PM   #37 
  - "Democratic Leadership" lies to its base  kenny blankenship   May-27-11 11:52 AM   #17 
  - They are not lying *to us* -- they are lying to the country and the world about us and what we want  AlabamaLibrul   May-27-11 09:33 PM   #30 
  - Clinton was DLC and this has been their position for a long time -  TBF   May-27-11 05:17 PM   #21 
  - Yes, they have been pushing for private accounts for many years.  madfloridian   May-27-11 09:03 PM   #26 
  - That was before the crash. People thought in 1997 that the  JDPriestly   May-27-11 06:02 PM   #22 
  - When I talk to young people in their 20s now..  girl gone mad   May-27-11 06:22 PM   #23 
  - Middle of the tech-bubble, IPO fever - especially for the young n/t  radhika   May-27-11 08:06 PM   #24 
  - Polls are, at best, only loosely related to reality, and do not ever compel any particular outcome.  bemildred   May-27-11 08:11 PM   #25 
  - Same old Mepublican trick  droidamus2   May-27-11 09:10 PM   #27 
  - In 2008 Mark Penn told Hillary Clinton that all of California's delegates would be hers...  Mister Ed   May-27-11 09:44 PM   #31 
  - Is this guy Mark Penn still around -- ? Hope not -- !!  defendandprotect   May-27-11 10:19 PM   #33 
     - He's still around. Link.  madfloridian   May-27-11 10:36 PM   #34 
        - Interesting ... and wondering if Bill was "helping" Hillary or trying to blow up her campaign?  defendandprotect   May-27-11 11:01 PM   #35 
  - Public is being kept uninformed and dumb -- works for the elites/corporates ... !!!  defendandprotect   May-27-11 10:16 PM   #32 
  - Wrong about everything  The Wizard   May-28-11 05:17 AM   #38 
  - Recommend  xchrom   May-28-11 06:08 AM   #40 
  - "some form of privatization"  Roy Rolling   May-28-11 10:01 AM   #41 
  - Well, back in 1997, the stock market was flying high, and people were seeing their portfolios double  4lbs   May-28-11 11:20 AM   #42 
  - Younger people have been propagandized with the meme: "Social Security  Lydia Leftcoast   May-28-11 11:22 AM   #44 
  - Yes, they were. I would say to them..do they want to take care of their parents financially.  madfloridian   May-28-11 12:24 PM   #45 
  - I remember that survey and the question was all or nothing  Drew Richards   May-28-11 12:39 PM   #46 
  - Thanks, I did a search at the DLC site.  madfloridian   May-28-11 01:07 PM   #47 
  - Thanks Monica  sulphurdunn   May-28-11 03:54 PM   #48 
  - Well, Mr. Simpson, without those things  EC   May-28-11 05:29 PM   #49 
  - It was before people discovered that Wall Street is legalized gambling  emsimon33   May-29-11 02:17 PM   #51 
  - Penn is a hot sweaty mess waiting for a stroke  underpants   May-29-11 02:50 PM   #53 
  - They already have that choice. It's called an IRA.  mmonk   May-29-11 02:53 PM   #55 
  - Please remember the 90's  jeaps   May-30-11 09:06 AM   #56 
  - In 1997 I was one of those young people who may have been easily misled  Blasphemer   May-30-11 09:35 AM   #57 
 

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