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130. Excellent point. Even in areas with "good" public transportation, getting around
without a car can be a huge time eater especially if you're traveling during off-peak hours.
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  -5 Things Nobody Tells You About Being Poor PVnRT  May-27-11 09:05 AM   #0 
  - I spent 4 years being poor after being upper middle and it sucks  stevenleser   May-27-11 09:11 AM   #1 
  - Poor after being upper middle? Could more about that?  BlueIris   May-27-11 10:18 AM   #11 
  - I'm (obviously) not the poster ...  etherealtruth   May-27-11 11:45 AM   #18 
  - In my case, divorce with a simultaneous layoff and inability to find work for a number of years.  stevenleser   May-27-11 12:01 PM   #20 
  - I am so sorry  etherealtruth   May-27-11 01:05 PM   #22 
     - That is what this taught me. Unless you have joined the ranks of the wealthy, which I hadnt...  stevenleser   May-27-11 01:17 PM   #23 
        - I learned that it is important to NEVER forget what it was like to be poor  etherealtruth   May-27-11 02:37 PM   #28 
  - Divorce  FreeJoe   May-27-11 06:42 PM   #48 
     - compound interest  trud   May-28-11 09:23 AM   #117 
     - Ditto  Carolina   May-28-11 01:46 PM   #145 
  - What upper means is that you can recover from poverty much more easily  eridani   May-27-11 07:43 PM   #61 
  - That is easy................  Knight Hawk   May-27-11 09:17 PM   #75 
  - Poor?  maddiemom   May-28-11 01:47 AM   #90 
  - I was born dirt licking poor and made my way up to the middle class.  roguevalley   May-27-11 03:51 PM   #31 
  - I was born poor and stayed poor  Capitalocracy   May-27-11 07:39 PM   #60 
  - good essay. whereas folks like gingrich get the "standard no-interest account" for their purchases.  Hannah Bell   May-27-11 03:56 PM   #33 
  - Yes  Knight Hawk   May-27-11 09:25 PM   #76 
  - I'd like to hear more about that also  pezDispenser   May-28-11 12:18 AM   #82 
  - Been poor and now well off  AngryAmish   May-27-11 09:15 AM   #2 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-27-11 04:01 PM   #36 
  - yikes that seems a bit cold. Ass kissing aside it is just a lot easier to have a lot of money.  Exultant Democracy   May-27-11 05:21 PM   #42 
  - +1 Couldnt have said it better.  OwnedByFerrets   May-27-11 07:04 PM   #52 
  - Insecure people need that.  Forkboy   May-27-11 07:11 PM   #55 
  - Not me.  bluestate10   May-27-11 07:39 PM   #59 
  - "that they are visibly stunned...  awoke_in_2003   May-28-11 01:54 AM   #92 
  - Isn't that the truth?  thanks_imjustlurking   May-28-11 07:59 AM   #105 
  - You won't find me kissing your ass.  Lucian   May-28-11 02:09 AM   #94 
  - I don't know where you are from originally, but here in the South  juajen   May-28-11 02:15 AM   #95 
  - I don't think he's expecting to get his ass kissed.  GoCubsGo   May-28-11 09:17 AM   #114 
  - I'm not rich but not poor (knock on wood)  thanks_imjustlurking   May-28-11 07:53 AM   #104 
  - I grew up poor  deutsey   May-27-11 09:19 AM   #3 
  - My grandparents would never spend money, even if they had it, even if it was a good idea.  phantom power   May-27-11 09:23 AM   #5 
  - Same with my grandparents. I guess they used to remember how really really bad things got.  closeupready   May-27-11 10:30 AM   #12 
  - I will never be secure about income and bills. I never will lose that chill.  roguevalley   May-27-11 03:54 PM   #32 
  - Been there. When you don't eat your stomach stops hurting but your whole body gets hungry  Maru Kitteh   May-27-11 08:54 PM   #72 
  - I just looked in my frig for something to take a medication with and  roguevalley   May-27-11 11:43 PM   #79 
  - Speaking of chill: my parents grew up in the Depression and never paid for heat  txlibdem   May-28-11 09:10 AM   #113 
  - "the chill of poverty never leaves your bones."  awoke_in_2003   May-28-11 01:58 AM   #93 
  - These days, when something breaks down, or one of us has to go to doctor...  phantom power   May-27-11 09:21 AM   #4 
  - That's exactly it. Most of us are one event away from being there even if we are doing well now...  stevenleser   May-27-11 12:02 PM   #21 
  - I'm frequently impressed by the quality of the articles ...  surrealAmerican   May-27-11 09:23 AM   #6 
  - I've been seeing  svpadgham   May-27-11 07:45 PM   #63 
  - My life has been a rollercoaster of middle-class to poor and vice-versa  Urban Prairie   May-27-11 09:51 AM   #7 
  - Had similar financial experience during the 80's and like you only thing that saved me was no debt  NNN0LHI   May-27-11 10:08 AM   #10 
     - No, the only thing that ever occurred to me was that I needed to have  Urban Prairie   May-27-11 10:31 AM   #13 
  - grew up "poor" on a farm ... didn't have much ... didn't need much  littlewolf   May-27-11 10:00 AM   #8 
  - Thats where we are now.  bvar22   May-27-11 11:59 AM   #19 
  - I finally can go to a movie and have popcorn. I finally am paying my  roguevalley   May-27-11 03:56 PM   #34 
  - you were NOT were wealthy in fact.  Alameda   May-27-11 06:08 PM   #45 
  - Everyones got to show how their suffering is the worst one..  Cid_B   May-28-11 01:48 AM   #91 
  - you grew up rich on a farm and called it poor, this is hardly the same thing  pitohui   May-27-11 07:10 PM   #54 
  - recommend  xchrom   May-27-11 10:05 AM   #9 
  - Underwear.  madamesilverspurs   May-27-11 10:31 AM   #14 
  - I choose thrift stores  tavalon   May-28-11 05:32 AM   #97 
  - this is what is so disgusting about those with money telling us how to live  fascisthunter   May-27-11 10:33 AM   #15 
  - My favorite memories from being poor...  Javaman   May-27-11 10:43 AM   #16 
  - Hugs, Javaman. Been there hungry wise. Everyone should know  roguevalley   May-27-11 03:58 PM   #35 
  - Who's Sam Kenison?  uberllama42   May-27-11 08:08 PM   #66 
  - Well. Sam is dead.  Maru Kitteh   May-27-11 09:14 PM   #74 
  - I guess I'm going to have to look up who Sam Kenison is n/t  trud   May-28-11 09:26 AM   #118 
  - Yes that is very true.  truedelphi   May-27-11 11:19 AM   #17 
  - But . . . But . . . Nixon had a 'secret plan' for peace. He even  coalition_unwilling   May-27-11 04:10 PM   #37 
  - Used it in '72 as well. Tricky  era veteran   May-27-11 07:05 PM   #53 
  - The funny/sad thing is that by today's standards...  Silent3   May-28-11 07:17 AM   #101 
  - Being hungry all the time  StarburstClock   May-27-11 01:20 PM   #24 
  - Are You Kidding? Being Poor Is GREAT!!!  ChoppinBroccoli   May-27-11 01:59 PM   #25 
  - Once you're down, you get kicked  Quantess   May-27-11 02:17 PM   #26 
  - Growing up we were very poor,  1awake   May-27-11 02:30 PM   #27 
  - I would not wish poverty on any child. Your memory of 'government  coalition_unwilling   May-27-11 04:15 PM   #38 
  - I got caught in the credit thing...  idiotgardener   May-27-11 02:45 PM   #29 
  - I've never deliberately been in debt  Capitalocracy   May-27-11 07:43 PM   #62 
     - That's true too.  idiotgardener   May-27-11 08:28 PM   #69 
        - And since I missed the "free chains... I mean, credit cards... for everybody"  Capitalocracy   May-27-11 08:54 PM   #71 
           - All you need is one  idiotgardener   May-27-11 10:25 PM   #77 
              - The point is that it shouldn't be that way!  xmas74   May-28-11 12:11 AM   #81 
                 - actually, you're using their money  trud   May-28-11 02:47 PM   #146 
                 - The point is,  xmas74   May-28-11 11:26 PM   #148 
                 - I know...  idiotgardener   May-28-11 07:58 PM   #147 
                    - What needs to be done is  xmas74   May-28-11 11:27 PM   #149 
                       - Yup. And less secrecy  idiotgardener   May-28-11 11:51 PM   #152 
                          - It is BS.  xmas74   May-28-11 11:56 PM   #153 
                             - I was just listening to a guy saying that on the radio  idiotgardener   May-29-11 12:04 AM   #154 
                                - that's a great line! Someone should make that into a bumper sticker  renate   May-29-11 03:57 PM   #157 
  - You can be a drunk and still get rich. You just have to fuck people over.  buddysmellgood   May-27-11 02:49 PM   #30 
  - Or just get lucky.  Sonoman   May-27-11 06:34 PM   #47 
  - Wow. American financial institutions fuck the poor way way WAY worse than Brazilian ones.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   May-27-11 04:25 PM   #39 
  - It's worse than they say in the article  Capitalocracy   May-27-11 09:02 PM   #73 
  - That article was pretty funny, actually.  Quantess   May-27-11 04:54 PM   #40 
  - John Cheese is pretty funny.  svpadgham   May-27-11 07:59 PM   #65 
  - it made me laugh :)  justabob   May-28-11 12:53 AM   #88 
  - Jesus, I think I have a clone.  sofa king   May-27-11 05:16 PM   #41 
  - kr  defendandprotect   May-27-11 06:04 PM   #43 
  - there are a lot more things people don't realize about being poor  Alameda   May-27-11 06:06 PM   #44 
  - Middle class is the new poor. Various "poverty taxes" utilities & banks charge now reach more people  Bucky   May-27-11 06:20 PM   #46 
  - holy crap, that's supposed to be a humor site  FirstLight   May-27-11 06:44 PM   #49 
  - Let me tell you there are many people who don't have any troubles and are  southernyankeebelle   May-27-11 06:44 PM   #50 
  - Being poor was one of the best things that ever happened to me  FreeJoe   May-27-11 06:51 PM   #51 
  - being poor destroys almost everyone one, glad it worked out so well for you, barbara!!!  pitohui   May-27-11 07:17 PM   #56 
     - Don't dismiss a person so easily.  bluestate10   May-27-11 08:26 PM   #68 
        - And after the family fixed up the place,  Quantess   May-28-11 12:06 AM   #80 
           - I've had that happen.  xmas74   May-28-11 12:19 AM   #83 
           - That happened to my parents, before I was born.  Quantess   May-28-11 12:28 AM   #84 
           - So I've heard.  xmas74   May-28-11 12:42 AM   #86 
           - Your landlord was a bastard. And almost surely, a republican. nt  bluestate10   May-28-11 08:54 AM   #109 
           - I don't know about political affiliation  xmas74   May-28-11 10:47 AM   #124 
           - My friend who recently let me stay with him had that happen...  comtec   May-28-11 01:13 PM   #141 
           - I don't know. I watched from afar. They seemed to have owned the place.  bluestate10   May-28-11 08:50 AM   #108 
  - HUGE K & R !!!  WillyT   May-27-11 07:23 PM   #57 
  - indeed!  Liberal_in_LA   May-27-11 07:48 PM   #64 
  - Being poor is expensive as hell.  GreenEyedLefty   May-27-11 07:32 PM   #58 
  - So true, esp b/c of the for-profit health and dental insurance bullshit in the US  Urban Prairie   May-27-11 08:14 PM   #67 
     - Could a health clinic refer you to a specialist at no cost or on a sliding scale?  tblue37   May-28-11 05:47 AM   #98 
     - Get the attorney!  xxqqqzme   May-28-11 08:32 AM   #106 
  - I love Cracked articles  JonLP24   May-27-11 08:33 PM   #70 
  - I hate being poor too  udbcrzy2   May-27-11 11:33 PM   #78 
  - K & R - Anyone who thinks this article is an exaggeration hasn't been there,  Raksha   May-28-11 12:31 AM   #85 
  - When my kid was little, I had to work three jobs to keep a roof over our heads.  Bette Noir   May-28-11 12:51 AM   #87 
  - I was expected more!  julene_allendellamor   May-28-11 01:07 AM   #89 
  - I was raised in three different brackets  tavalon   May-28-11 05:27 AM   #96 
  - I grew up ..  sendero   May-28-11 06:53 AM   #99 
  - You are right about the governments of China and India. As well as  bluestate10   May-28-11 09:53 AM   #120 
     - Not only that.  sendero   May-28-11 11:26 AM   #129 
  - best song that sums up what is being said here.........  Eddie Rek   May-28-11 06:54 AM   #100 
  - I was poor when I was young  CanonRay   May-28-11 07:31 AM   #102 
  - Yep, ironic but being poor often means you pay more  quinnox   May-28-11 07:52 AM   #103 
  - My Somalian friend Margaret would tell you different  mntleo2   May-28-11 09:01 AM   #112 
  - I learned all that about being poor when I was a kid. I decided I didn't want to live that way.  slackmaster   May-28-11 08:34 AM   #107 
  - I was born and raised dirt poor. My place of birth is prominently listed  bluestate10   May-28-11 09:18 AM   #115 
  - Yep, people are poor because they lack the determination.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   May-28-11 11:31 PM   #150 
     - That's not what I wrote, CPD.  slackmaster   May-29-11 10:44 AM   #155 
        - And thank you for upholding the long-standing tradition on DU...  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   May-29-11 03:16 PM   #156 
  - You don't have to be poor to be fucked.  The Backlash Cometh   May-28-11 08:58 AM   #110 
  - True. And you don't have to accept being fucked. The last statement is the key. nt  bluestate10   May-28-11 09:22 AM   #116 
     - You make it sound like it's easy to bring balance into your world.  The Backlash Cometh   May-28-11 11:01 AM   #127 
  - I grew up poor, was poor for decades, now I'm rich  xpertanalyst   May-28-11 09:01 AM   #111 
  - The bootstrap argument does not sit well with some on DU.  bluestate10   May-28-11 09:36 AM   #119 
  - TY Blue State!  mntleo2   May-28-11 10:52 AM   #125 
  - Well bully for you  lunatica   May-28-11 10:30 AM   #121 
  - +1  smokey nj   May-28-11 10:32 AM   #122 
  - Piss off with that "only in America" crap  shoutinfreud   May-28-11 10:41 AM   #123 
  - That caught my eye  JonLP24   May-28-11 10:53 AM   #126 
     - Plus government small busisiness incentives, etc.  shoutinfreud   May-28-11 12:16 PM   #131 
  - It's a different world now....  OneGrassRoot   May-28-11 12:42 PM   #135 
  - They're only bad decisions when you're poor. When you're rich, it's called "risk taking."  smokey nj   May-28-11 12:45 PM   #137 
     - Word. n/t  OneGrassRoot   May-28-11 01:22 PM   #142 
  - Your story is an example, but not proof  Lydia Leftcoast   May-28-11 12:44 PM   #136 
  - There's probably not much difference between using a check cashing place and having a checking  smokey nj   May-28-11 01:06 PM   #140 
  - what decade did you start your business? what kind of business?  comtec   May-28-11 01:28 PM   #143 
  - Oh, look, another Galt.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   May-28-11 11:36 PM   #151 
  - Good article, but he doesn't even go into the host of problems that come with not having a car.  JVS   May-28-11 11:20 AM   #128 
  - Excellent point. Even in areas with "good" public transportation, getting around  smokey nj   May-28-11 12:07 PM   #130 
  - Or if the bus schedule and the work schedule just doesn't line up.  JVS   May-28-11 12:45 PM   #138 
     - And, if something happens to fuck up the bus schedule, then you're really screwed.  smokey nj   May-28-11 12:53 PM   #139 
  - and, if you have just enough to HAVE a car and the slightest thing goes wrong  shoutinfreud   May-28-11 12:18 PM   #132 
     - That aspect is well-covered in the article.  JVS   May-28-11 12:41 PM   #134 
  - I've gone through periods of poverty  Lydia Leftcoast   May-28-11 12:29 PM   #133 
  - I LIVE on craig's list - free  comtec   May-28-11 01:45 PM   #144 

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