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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 01:09 PM
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33. One DUer has said that when she was over there she was told not to look at mens' eyes.
Apparently over there that is an "invitation" to fuck you. :puke:
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  -French Women 'Stunned' By Public Misogyny Following DSK's Arrest sufrommich  May-22-11 11:14 AM   #0 
  - At least this story is initiating public conversations about the issues  Liberal_in_LA   May-22-11 11:31 AM   #1 
  - 10% of rape is reported, leaving 90% of rape not reported, .....  seabeyond   May-22-11 11:41 AM   #2 
  - That article shocked and horrified me.  Odin2005   May-22-11 11:42 AM   #3 
  - that article and all the rest that were provided in the thread did not surprise me at all.  seabeyond   May-22-11 11:44 AM   #4 
  - Yes, you tend to be very reasonable / level headed, your response was uncharacteristic.  joshcryer   May-22-11 11:56 AM   #8 
     - I have a friend who was raped, so such stuff tends to get me worked up.  Odin2005   May-22-11 01:06 PM   #32 
  - Wow. It's 1959 over there. nt  sufrommich   May-22-11 11:46 AM   #5 
  - i am sayin... nt  seabeyond   May-22-11 11:46 AM   #6 
  - Seems like it.  joshcryer   May-22-11 11:56 AM   #7 
  - have you ever been there? Just curious.  krabigirl   May-22-11 12:09 PM   #21 
  - i am LISTENING to the women in france. i am seeing the statistics in france.  seabeyond   May-22-11 12:13 PM   #25 
  - Nope, simply "going somewhere" doesn't tell you very much.  joshcryer   May-22-11 12:14 PM   #26 
     - link to gender gap report:  joshcryer   May-22-11 12:17 PM   #29 
  - yeah, & that paragon of women's equality, ireland, = no. 6.  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 06:25 AM   #52 
     - And Venezuela is 64  leftynyc   May-23-11 08:10 AM   #60 
     - uh -- that josh's gender survey doesn't measure anything useful?  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 01:44 PM   #95 
        - Yes, I read everything  leftynyc   May-23-11 03:10 PM   #103 
           - um -- because it's an obviously developed country in which women have full rights  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 05:30 PM   #108 
     - My understanding of women in the Soviet Union was that  whathehell   May-23-11 08:29 AM   #63 
        - which is different from the us how (except for the specious traditional 'saying')?  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 01:43 PM   #94 
           - Sorry if I've touched a nerve...  whathehell   May-23-11 03:39 PM   #104 
              - being as i can pick out any number of "traditional sayings" in europe/us which don't  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 05:32 PM   #109 
                 - "being as you can"....knock yourself out.  whathehell   May-23-11 05:42 PM   #110 
                    - The difference being, my remark about ireland is in the context of josh's claim  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 05:55 PM   #112 
                       - I guess you're getting confused about your "opponents" on this issue, lol  whathehell   May-23-11 06:12 PM   #113 
                          - russia. whatever. all such "lists" are essentially fraudulent, in service of political ends.  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 06:20 PM   #114 
                             - Yeah, sure.  whathehell   May-23-11 06:32 PM   #115 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   May-23-11 11:15 PM   #116 
                                - red-baiting.  Hannah Bell   May-24-11 02:03 PM   #117 
  - no, it isn't.  krabigirl   May-22-11 12:08 PM   #19 
  - Do you really want to use this as a point in nationalist pride?  JackRiddler   May-23-11 10:36 AM   #85 
     - What is nationalist about an era? nt  sufrommich   May-23-11 11:43 AM   #91 
        - Please, the implication is clear...  JackRiddler   May-23-11 11:54 AM   #92 
           - prior to these articles  seabeyond   May-23-11 12:01 PM   #93 
              - Spinny-spin-spin.  JackRiddler   May-23-11 02:26 PM   #101 
                 - .  seabeyond   May-23-11 02:57 PM   #102 
  - +1, good thread.  joshcryer   May-22-11 11:57 AM   #9 
  - very informative. i have bookmarked for future. people are shying from actually listening to the  seabeyond   May-22-11 12:00 PM   #14 
     - I admit I have a "thing" for French girls. It's making me question why.  joshcryer   May-22-11 12:05 PM   #16 
     - wow...  seabeyond   May-22-11 12:07 PM   #18 
     - Hey I like to think there's not that, but this is making me question it, no doubt!  joshcryer   May-22-11 12:10 PM   #22 
        - i think what tipped me off a couple decades ago was becoming such good friends with two foriegn  seabeyond   May-22-11 12:20 PM   #30 
     - Well, you haven't met many French girls then. Most are pretty feminist, and not..  krabigirl   May-22-11 12:09 PM   #20 
     - Well that's certainly the impression I've had for years, that they were liberated feminists.  joshcryer   May-22-11 12:12 PM   #23 
     - Perhaps, if you have a thing for "girls"  polmaven   May-23-11 06:49 AM   #58 
        - lol. hoist on his own petard  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 02:09 PM   #99 
     - One DUer has said that when she was over there she was told not to look at mens' eyes.  Odin2005   May-22-11 01:09 PM   #33 
        - wow.... and over here, i make eye contact and wont let go... saying  seabeyond   May-22-11 01:21 PM   #37 
        - When I was in France several times in the 1970s, I was appalled at the  tblue37   May-22-11 07:28 PM   #43 
        - i looked into plenty of men's eyes in france. none of them tried to hump me.  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 06:34 AM   #53 
           - Anecdote != Data  PVnRT   May-23-11 09:59 AM   #79 
              - i understand that; however, my anecdotes is no less worthy than the other anecdotes being offered  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 02:04 PM   #97 
  - That's even worse than the U.S.  PVnRT   May-23-11 09:58 AM   #78 
  - this is what du has been advocating what i, a woman, should be.  seabeyond   May-22-11 11:57 AM   #10 
  - Heart ya seabeyond.  joshcryer   May-22-11 11:59 AM   #12 
  - i am going to get "unmad" again, soon. lol. ah ha  seabeyond   May-22-11 12:02 PM   #15 
  - Another eye opener. Thanks, seabeyond. nt  sufrommich   May-22-11 12:06 PM   #17 
  - Yeah, well I have spent a lot of time there and haven't noticed anything like that.  krabigirl   May-22-11 12:12 PM   #24 
  - So the pay gaps, under reported rapes, lack of female  sufrommich   May-22-11 12:15 PM   #27 
  - Female french parlimentarians = about the same % as female american congresspersons.  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 06:44 AM   #55 
  - people actually believe racism has been "cured" in the u.s. but most of us know we need to still  seabeyond   May-22-11 12:17 PM   #28 
  - WOW!  Odin2005   May-22-11 01:11 PM   #34 
  - huh?  shoutinfreud   May-23-11 03:40 AM   #49 
  - you can't smoke in the street? or drink too much wine? lol. bullshit.  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 06:38 AM   #54 
  - The smoking in the street thing is real...  PassingFair   May-23-11 09:23 AM   #72 
  - wow... i say to you, lol. wowl  seabeyond   May-23-11 09:52 AM   #76 
  - I guess in Paris, smoking while walking is a "signal"...  PassingFair   May-23-11 10:04 AM   #82 
     - ha ha ha. nt  seabeyond   May-23-11 10:21 AM   #84 
  - must have been prostitutes i saw smoking in the street then.  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 02:06 PM   #98 
  - "A permanent ode to women in France", Lol  whathehell   May-23-11 03:50 PM   #106 
  - Some DUers have been stunned by it too and others  Skidmore   May-22-11 11:59 AM   #11 
  - K&R  G_j   May-22-11 11:59 AM   #13 
  - I've always been puzzled by this..  JackDragna   May-22-11 12:23 PM   #31 
  - They are a Latin culture, which tend to be quite sexist.  Odin2005   May-22-11 01:12 PM   #35 
  - They are more progressive in the same sense that Larry Flynt  geek tragedy   May-22-11 01:15 PM   #36 
  - Napoleon WAS a commoner... just FYI  LooseWilly   May-23-11 04:29 AM   #50 
  - Clearly, in one sense, the French are not as progressive on gender equality issues as we are.  closeupready   May-23-11 09:16 AM   #68 
  - The Catholic church is still pretty strong in France.  wickerwoman   May-23-11 05:47 PM   #111 
  - This is why DSK's lawyer has to be very careful about trashing the woman's reputation.  yellowcanine   May-22-11 01:42 PM   #38 
  - **  G_j   May-22-11 01:53 PM   #39 
  - Do people still think the burqa ban was about liberating women?  ZombieHorde   May-22-11 02:34 PM   #40 
  - It seems as if you are correct and I always thought so as well. Really interesting read  blondeatlast   May-22-11 02:43 PM   #41 
  - I was ambivilant about it before but it is definitely something to consider.  joshcryer   May-22-11 10:11 PM   #47 
  - that's the spin at du.  Hannah Bell   May-23-11 06:45 AM   #56 
  - That was straight up islamaphobia. Nt  La Lioness Priyanka   May-23-11 09:31 AM   #75 
  - Wow. This is appalling:  tblue37   May-22-11 07:18 PM   #42 
  - Stunned. Really.  ismnotwasm   May-22-11 07:42 PM   #44 
  - i would be curious  seabeyond   May-22-11 07:53 PM   #45 
     - I'll let you know  ismnotwasm   May-22-11 09:43 PM   #46 
  - The misogynist attitude is more prevalent among older French  BlueMTexpat   May-23-11 03:33 AM   #48 
  - Monsieur Kahn--"troussage de domestique" IS rape  SemperEadem   May-23-11 06:14 AM   #51 
  - I knew not ALL of France was stunned and confused by our reaction to rape  lunatica   May-23-11 06:49 AM   #57 
  - KnR! It's about fricking time.  Kind of Blue   May-23-11 07:03 AM   #59 
  - DSK genuinely thought that what he was doing was not that bad. Only "troussage de domestique"!  Nye Bevan   May-23-11 08:18 AM   #61 
  - "troussage de domestique" sounds like something that was part of  whathehell   May-23-11 11:07 AM   #87 
  - Are we forgetting something?  a2liberal   May-23-11 08:22 AM   #62 
  - plea bargain time?  marions ghost   May-23-11 08:38 AM   #64 
  - I don't think the OP is about DSK's guilt or innocence.  Kind of Blue   May-23-11 09:04 AM   #65 
  - The guy is innocent until proven guilty, IN COURT  AngryAmish   May-23-11 09:14 AM   #67 
  - Well said.  La Lioness Priyanka   May-23-11 09:29 AM   #74 
  - I wasn't trying to imply  a2liberal   May-23-11 01:50 PM   #96 
     - really? you have read the accounting and how it came down, and you can not figure out why  seabeyond   May-23-11 02:16 PM   #100 
  - "Consensual". Yep. Okayyyyyyy.  Nye Bevan   May-23-11 09:18 AM   #69 
  - +1. yup. thanks nye. nt  seabeyond   May-23-11 09:20 AM   #71 
  - This is about a broader discussion of gender in French society  PVnRT   May-23-11 10:04 AM   #81 
  - Yeah, I'm sure the high point of this maid's day was consensually  Codeine   May-23-11 10:13 AM   #83 
     - Sounds about right....  Dorian Gray   May-23-11 11:39 AM   #88 
  - So now Puritanism is raising its ugly head amongst French feminists, too!!!11  closeupready   May-23-11 09:10 AM   #66 
  - totally puritanical. NO rape. hey...  seabeyond   May-23-11 09:19 AM   #70 
     - Totally on your side on this issue, as you must know. Was just making fun  closeupready   May-23-11 09:29 AM   #73 
        - i gotcha. all of what you are saying  seabeyond   May-23-11 09:54 AM   #77 
  - I was beginning to wonder about French women.  Le Taz Hot   May-23-11 09:59 AM   #80 
  - The man is a pig.  Beacool   May-23-11 10:42 AM   #86 
  - I'm not stunned at all  AndiMer   May-23-11 11:41 AM   #89 
  - K&R!  Overseas   May-23-11 11:42 AM   #90 
  - And this is surprising? hardly...  formernaderite   May-23-11 03:46 PM   #105 
     - i guess it has been being told repeatedly how far behind we were that confused us a tad  seabeyond   May-23-11 04:25 PM   #107 

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