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140. I find myself agreeing with most everything you said..
and sometimes I wonder if things are really as bad as I think they are, or am I just being paranoid? But you're right. America is being dismantled, one liberty at a time. But yet, all our entertainment and the noise from the media serve to distract and drown out what is happening before our eyes. And yes, there is no revolution. If one talks about revolution, they are considered "radical" or a "fringe element," yet where is the outrage over the extension of the Patriot Act, airport screening, countless limits being put on the American People through various laws, etc, that make it hard for the average person to be self-sufficient. By this, I'm talking about such things as not being able to sell unpasturized milk or plant your own food, such things that have been in the media recently. In a neighboring county here, people aren't allowed to dig a well on their property. I don't know about ya'll, but it is alarming to me, when our officials try to prevent us from being able to fend for ourselves.

And sure, I have enjoyed luxuries such as cable, internet and cell phones as much as the next person, but I am also concerned that these very things, as well as media distractions are keeping us from defending liberties. Is it just me or does anyone else crave simpler times? Family time around the table, spending more time outdoors, etc, rather than the couch potato lifestyle?

And I admire our forefathers for standing up for what they believed in. They fought for the rights we have today but are gradually having taken away.

Is there any way to stop what is happening?
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  -America is being destroyed from within. And were just watching it happen. Cyrano  May-19-11 12:38 PM   #0 
  - No, you pretty much summed it up.  HopeHoops   May-19-11 12:39 PM   #1 
  - Ditto. But I could give you a cup of the chicken soup I'm cooking if that would help. n/t  LiberalLoner   May-19-11 12:52 PM   #10 
  - Well, 20+ years ago when I ate meat it might have. Thanks anyway.  HopeHoops   May-19-11 12:53 PM   #11 
  - Oops, sorry! How about a cup of tea then? :) n/t  LiberalLoner   May-19-11 12:56 PM   #13 
     - Thanks - can you send it over "the Internets"?  HopeHoops   May-19-11 01:03 PM   #16 
        - I would but I can't find the cables :) n/t  LiberalLoner   May-19-11 01:07 PM   #20 
           - you mean tubes, right  madokie   May-19-11 07:56 PM   #60 
  - No soup for me? ... I think I'll whine.  Cyrano   May-19-11 02:25 PM   #35 
     - Oh, yeah, soup for anyone who would like it! :) n/t  LiberalLoner   May-19-11 02:26 PM   #36 
  - Baloney.....and a rant  Stuttgart77   May-19-11 09:18 PM   #73 
     - +1  my2sense   May-19-11 10:29 PM   #80 
     - ^ Right wing baloney above ^  Mimosa   May-19-11 11:29 PM   #87 
     - Where do ya think he comes from? nt  Enthusiast   May-20-11 01:15 AM   #97 
     - My mother.  Stuttgart77   May-20-11 07:06 AM   #111 
     - College educations?  Stuttgart77   May-20-11 07:19 AM   #115 
     - Thanks Stuttgart for your refreshing perspective!  DaveJ   May-20-11 08:41 AM   #122 
     - +100. nt  raccoon   May-20-11 11:00 AM   #137 
     - You are completely full of shit.The laws were manipulated allowing the offshoring of union jobs  bjobotts   May-19-11 11:53 PM   #90 
     - Republican politicians got rid of corporate taxes and regulations on financial institutions  bjobotts   May-19-11 11:54 PM   # 
     - Insane trade policies and Reagan tax cuts on the wealthy reduced the revenue to the treasury creatin  bjobotts   May-20-11 12:07 AM   #92 
     - Somehow I remember Clinton signing NAFTA & giving China MFN status?  Stuttgart77   May-20-11 07:13 AM   #114 
        - Well Stuttgart  Pharaoh   May-20-11 10:24 AM   #133 
           - If you're so proud as to turn your nose up at everyone else  Stuttgart77   May-20-11 07:22 PM   #157 
     - Yes, however the GLOBAL ECONOMY was coming one way or another  Stuttgart77   May-20-11 07:09 AM   #113 
     - Pretty harsh reply to the OP...  Wait Wut   May-20-11 09:27 AM   #126 
     - Durn!!!!  chervilant   May-20-11 11:11 AM   #139 
     - I think  Dyedinthewoolliberal   May-20-11 09:48 AM   #129 
     - Tax bullshit.  Atypical Liberal   May-20-11 10:36 AM   #134 
     - The US economy  sulphurdunn   May-20-11 10:37 AM   #135 
     - Two identical products sitting on two different store's shelves  Stuttgart77   May-20-11 07:29 PM   #159 
        - I buy from the store that has a union.  sulphurdunn   May-20-11 08:44 PM   #162 
     - Your rant is half baloney  Armstead   May-20-11 11:23 AM   #142 
     - America is not a country of 2-hour lunches and 5 weeks of  JDPriestly   May-20-11 02:14 PM   #153 
        - Mentally and spiritually lazy  Armstead   May-20-11 03:25 PM   #155 
        - Well, let me see now  Stuttgart77   May-20-11 07:18 PM   #156 
           - When I lived in European countries, only those students who  JDPriestly   May-20-11 10:22 PM   #163 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   May-22-11 11:24 PM   #167 
           - I don't see any softening  sulphurdunn   May-21-11 08:28 PM   #166 
     - Bullshit. Blaming folks for participating in capitalism when it's the only  TBF   May-20-11 11:25 AM   #143 
     - When have we last had pure capitalism?  Stuttgart77   May-20-11 07:25 PM   #158 
        - I think we're doing pretty close right now -  TBF   May-20-11 07:39 PM   #160 
           - Yea, really? The FEDERAL REGISTER is over 80,000 pages.  Stuttgart77   May-20-11 08:16 PM   #161 
              - Like they enforce any of that. And enjoy your stay by the way expat,  TBF   May-21-11 08:20 AM   #165 
     - Baloney, Stuttgart77.  JDPriestly   May-20-11 02:08 PM   #152 
  - I wish you weren't right  Aerows   May-19-11 12:40 PM   #2 
  - Not just the Republicans...  PassingFair   May-19-11 12:41 PM   #3 
  - I don't have a positive view.....and I've been wondering which is worse....  Avalux   May-19-11 12:41 PM   #4 
  - When people have been beaten on, lied to and abused  russspeakeasy   May-19-11 09:59 PM   #78 
  - in fairness to the superwealthy  BOG PERSON   May-19-11 12:42 PM   #5 
  - Trust me, the computers and TVs won't be part of the lifestyle of the masses forever.  LiberalLoner   May-19-11 12:54 PM   #12 
  - So enslaving people to give you a "cheap" computer is good even though it keeps your wages down.  readmoreoften   May-19-11 08:29 PM   #67 
     - Cheap is less important when you have adequate wages.Trade policies need to change now.  bjobotts   May-20-11 12:11 AM   #93 
  - Yes, but Arnold has a love child.  yella_dawg   May-19-11 12:44 PM   #6 
  - It has been death by 1000 cuts for the last 30 years  Avant Guardian   May-19-11 12:45 PM   #7 
  - Cicero was right even now!!!  atreides1   May-19-11 12:46 PM   #8 
  - +1, n/t  RKP5637   May-19-11 01:07 PM   #19 
  - Wow, I never read that before. Great post.  canoeist52   May-19-11 01:16 PM   #24 
  - True greatness is never diminished.  colorado_ufo   May-19-11 09:33 PM   #74 
  - Here's a Quote for you!!!  tonybgood   May-20-11 07:40 AM   #118 
  - Ah, Cicero.  Le Taz Hot   May-20-11 08:48 AM   #123 
  - I can't disagree. The revolution isn't coming, the promised Change never materialized.  Poll_Blind   May-19-11 12:48 PM   #9 
  - The promise of change was a mirage and we all got fooled IMO by the illusion. n/t  RKP5637   May-19-11 01:10 PM   #21 
  - It was an extremely successful marketing campaign. nt  krabigirl   May-19-11 07:25 PM   #51 
  - I too became hopeful after those eight horrible Bush years.  Cyrano   May-19-11 01:11 PM   #22 
     - About that American blind faith  canoeist52   May-19-11 01:32 PM   #27 
  - I feel like I'm riding along on a train, all the doors/windows have been welded shut and  RKP5637   May-19-11 12:57 PM   #14 
  - No, most of the passengers are pointing at your side of the train and  LiberalLoner   May-19-11 01:01 PM   #15 
     - Yep, true, well said! n/t  RKP5637   May-19-11 01:05 PM   #17 
     - Reminds me of this...  guruoo   May-19-11 11:31 PM   #88 
  - That "change" is your nest egg.  Hubert Flottz   May-19-11 01:06 PM   #18 
  - Blow up the TV, Move to the country, Eat a lot of peaches.  Bandit   May-19-11 01:12 PM   #23 
  - I think that's about it.. +1 n/t  LiberalLoner   May-19-11 01:19 PM   #26 
  - We 2006.  bvar22   May-19-11 07:20 PM   #48 
     - beautiful photo.  krabigirl   May-19-11 07:27 PM   #54 
     - I'm glad there are still some real hippies.  tabasco   May-20-11 07:34 AM   #117 
  - They control minds, that's why.  The Doctor.   May-19-11 01:19 PM   #25 
  - Lincoln said, "A house divided against itself cannot stand."  Cyrano   May-19-11 01:36 PM   #31 
  - This is so true. My husband is reading a book about Lincoln and he  LiberalLoner   May-19-11 02:40 PM   #37 
  - People can choose to think for themselves.  krabigirl   May-19-11 07:26 PM   #52 
  - You don't understand.  The Doctor.   May-21-11 12:07 AM   #164 
  - Yep  mmonk   May-20-11 07:23 AM   #116 
  - Stop the Killing!  patrice   May-19-11 01:34 PM   #28 
  - Refugees should get their homes back! Who is taking care of the Orphans? nt  patrice   May-19-11 01:36 PM   #29 
  - Im going to ask you about this in 2012 when Obama-Hope&Change is in full swing  Township75   May-19-11 01:36 PM   #30 
  - with all due respect, how many goddamned doomsday threads are you gonna post every day? smoke a j or  dionysus   May-19-11 01:50 PM   #32 
  - If my posts depress you, don't read them. Or take some Prozac first.  Cyrano   May-19-11 01:57 PM   #33 
  - And we've got to stop just watching it happen: close your eyes and look the other way!  damntexdem   May-19-11 02:24 PM   #34 
  - Do you have any suggestions of some "savior" we can vote for?  Cyrano   May-19-11 02:46 PM   #39 
  - I'd like to see Bernie Sanders in the WH too. Someone has to stand up and  RKP5637   May-19-11 03:02 PM   #40 
  - The voter suppression laws passing all over-they will succeed in  999998th word   May-19-11 11:54 PM   #91 
  - And what are they going to do in 2012?  verges   May-20-11 01:17 PM   #151 
  - Too busy basking in technology. Not enough are starving. n/t  Fire1   May-19-11 02:40 PM   #38 
  - Well put. They do still need us though. Much more than we need them.  DirkGently   May-19-11 03:55 PM   #41 
  - Know how you feel.  mountainlion55   May-19-11 04:03 PM   #42 
  - Sometimes (OK, most times) I agree, but not today  Spike89   May-19-11 04:25 PM   #43 
  - What makes you think you will be part of the small group of survivors, LOL? n/t  LiberalLoner   May-19-11 05:09 PM   #44 
     - Because I was straining to be uber-positive nt  Spike89   May-20-11 12:17 PM   #149 
  - Nope  XanaDUer   May-19-11 05:13 PM   #45 
  - Jobs will be coming back soon  many a good man   May-19-11 06:33 PM   #46 
  - That will happen,  bvar22   May-19-11 07:23 PM   #49 
  - Bingo!  Little Star   May-19-11 08:29 PM   #66 
  - Or when we are willing to work for German wages.  pampango   May-20-11 05:17 AM   #106 
  - On the other hand  PATRICK   May-20-11 08:15 AM   #120 
  - 60% of this population is stoned on something every figure out why there's no fight !  RagAss   May-19-11 06:35 PM   #47 
  - good point.  krabigirl   May-19-11 07:26 PM   #53 
  - How is that war on drugs  Enthusiast   May-20-11 01:21 AM   #98 
  - Link please.  Bluenorthwest   May-20-11 08:21 AM   #121 
  - That can't be true. I'm not stoned. Are you?  JDPriestly   May-20-11 02:18 PM   #154 
  - Yep. And what is scary is the pride some Americans have in that ignorance.  krabigirl   May-19-11 07:24 PM   #50 
  - Do more than watch  airplaneman   May-19-11 07:34 PM   #55 
  - lol. the same op again. but hey, you get a lot of recs for it just about every week.  cali   May-19-11 07:35 PM   #56 
  - There are some things to be positive about.  Nye Bevan   May-19-11 07:39 PM   #57 
  - Didn't Germany cave easily?  Kablooie   May-19-11 07:54 PM   #58 
  - You say:  abelenkpe   May-19-11 07:56 PM   #59 
  - Most societal changes have occurred ...  aggiesal   May-19-11 07:57 PM   #61 
  - Most do not even know there is a crisis. I suggest a required reading  jwirr   May-19-11 07:59 PM   #62 
  - I don't think big business would ever fully abandon a 330 million consumers market  chillspike   May-19-11 08:01 PM   #63 
  - "I don't think big business would ever fully abandon a 330 million consumers market"  fivepennies   May-20-11 11:16 AM   #141 
  - You just gotta keep banging the drum.  themadstork   May-19-11 08:17 PM   #64 
  - Yes. But its their Republican AND Democratic Party puppets doing the dirty work.  readmoreoften   May-19-11 08:25 PM   #65 
  - Destroyed from within  liberalgunwilltravel   May-19-11 08:40 PM   #68 
  - Welcome to DU, liberalgunwilltravel!  Rhiannon12866   May-19-11 10:06 PM   #79 
  - You gonna start shooting people?  nobodyspecial   May-19-11 11:23 PM   #86 
     - You gonna keep signing petitions & posting rants?  Doctor_J   May-20-11 10:53 AM   #136 
        - That one side that's doing the fighting  fivepennies   May-20-11 11:38 AM   #145 
  - Vulture capitalism is the worst thing to happen to our society.  Initech   May-19-11 08:54 PM   #69 
  - The secret to wealth -- or successful theft -- requires control of government ....  defendandprotect   May-19-11 08:54 PM   #70 
  - You are correct. What would you have "US" do?  OwnedByFerrets   May-19-11 09:02 PM   #71 
  - One of Abe Lincoln's quotes:  Bryn   May-19-11 09:06 PM   #72 
  - it starts at your local right wing radio station, where the groundwork repetition has been done for  certainot   May-19-11 09:41 PM   #75 
  - I agree  MovingForward   May-19-11 10:47 PM   #81 
  - K&R!!! n/t  Mimosa   May-19-11 09:42 PM   #76 
  - K & R !!!  WillyT   May-19-11 09:52 PM   #77 
  - Sorry  pmorlan1   May-19-11 10:52 PM   #82 
  - This is the result of Randism.  dorksied   May-19-11 10:53 PM   #83 
  - I protested until I was able to run for local office, so I did...  MrMickeysMom   May-19-11 11:09 PM   #84 
  - What do you suggest we do?  nobodyspecial   May-19-11 11:21 PM   #85 
  - It is now, always has been, and always will be class warfare  Jim_Shorts   May-19-11 11:33 PM   #89 
  - REmember they plotted to assassinate FDR.Oligarchs lost the battle under FDR.  bjobotts   May-20-11 12:14 AM   #94 
     - WHERE ARE THE JOBS.WHERE ARE THE JOBS.They have no plan or policy so focus on spending to  bjobotts   May-20-11 12:17 AM   #95 
  - K&R  Enthusiast   May-20-11 01:13 AM   #96 
  - I disagree (nearly completely)  taught_me_patience   May-20-11 01:25 AM   #99 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-20-11 01:41 AM   #101 
  - So those people whose lives have been destroyed?  Hissyspit   May-20-11 05:01 AM   #105 
     - Well, I was responding to OP that stated that America  taught_me_patience   May-20-11 11:41 AM   #146 
  - GOP Bozos  littleblanket   May-20-11 01:39 AM   #100 
  - We ought not give up so easily. Just because it hasn't happened yet (the revolution)  gtar100   May-20-11 02:54 AM   #102 
  - Cyrano, the good news is that this is a necessary process - when things get bad enough....  DesertDiamond   May-20-11 03:40 AM   #103 
  - all i can say is i don't watch tv  barbtries   May-20-11 03:47 AM   #104 
  - Sorry you're feeling down today...Maybe it's messing with your perspective.  whathehell   May-20-11 06:03 AM   #107 
  - Vote and keep the hounds at bay.  kentuck   May-20-11 06:14 AM   #108 
  - Yeah.  Dj13Francis   May-20-11 06:41 AM   #109 
  - Some of us have been 'Alarmist' since raygun  HillbillyBob   May-20-11 07:02 AM   #110 
  - It occurred to me the other day that the elites are trying to reshape America  deutsey   May-20-11 07:07 AM   #112 
  - As a nation we became fat, stupid, and lazy  ThomWV   May-20-11 07:40 AM   #119 
  - Is it America you think you know, or is your State in a fucked up  Bluenorthwest   May-20-11 09:17 AM   #124 
  - I'm waiting for the populace to revolt: then I'll stand by them  txlibdem   May-20-11 09:23 AM   #125 
  - This guy seems to understand, however crude he is  TatonkaJames   May-20-11 09:33 AM   #127 
  - Unfortunately I agree. I am very worried for my grandson and the world he will  MasonJar   May-20-11 09:42 AM   #128 
  - Huxley's nightmare has come true.. it's a "Brave New World"  BREMPRO   May-20-11 09:50 AM   #130 
  - kicking because this is true. n/t  Hotler   May-20-11 09:54 AM   #131 
  - Not exceptionalism, mind you, but Americans are different.  caseymoz   May-20-11 10:23 AM   #132 
  - It's even worse if  femrap   May-20-11 11:09 AM   #138 
  - I find myself agreeing with most everything you said..  TfG   May-20-11 11:14 AM   #140 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-20-11 11:36 AM   #144 
  - Yes, let's pretend that.  a simple pattern   May-20-11 12:00 PM   #148 
  - Prozac Nation  libodem   May-20-11 11:50 AM   #147 
  - We're not just watching. There are no innocent bystanders.  robertpaulsen   May-20-11 12:19 PM   #150 

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