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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 07:29 PM
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51. What a weird story.
And straight from a $4,000/night hotel room to Riker's Island... Maaan. Talk about a cold splash of water to the face.

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  -NYT: I.M.F. Chief May Claim Consensual Sex as a Defense steve2470  May-17-11 05:22 PM   #0 
  - This is common as a defense  nadinbrzezinski   May-17-11 05:24 PM   #1 
  - oh but really, we cant say anything, we must wait for conviction before accusing him of a pig. nt  seabeyond   May-17-11 05:26 PM   #3 
  - Wait for a conviction? What a novel idea. Some guys  sabrina 1   May-17-11 05:34 PM   #9 
  - He'll get his day in court. Comments on the internet don't  sufrommich   May-17-11 06:05 PM   #16 
     - Ask the Duke Lacrosse players  sabrina 1   May-17-11 06:21 PM   #26 
        - Not all cases are created equal.The Lacrosse case was  sufrommich   May-17-11 06:44 PM   #41 
           - Yes, of course cases are not all the same. But it is wrong to say  sabrina 1   May-17-11 07:47 PM   #54 
  - he's a pig now. there are other women and this one? She's a very  roguevalley   May-17-11 10:37 PM   #75 
  - Which means what happened? n/t  sabrina 1   May-17-11 05:28 PM   #4 
  - which means he assaulted her unless you are suggesting she "asked" for it. nt  seabeyond   May-17-11 05:29 PM   #5 
     - It means he MAY be stating the sex was consensual.  sabrina 1   May-17-11 05:31 PM   #7 
        - and what does that tell you. he MAY be saying it is consentual. we have to see if it flies, nt  seabeyond   May-17-11 05:33 PM   #8 
           - It tells me that this may be his claim. That is all.  sabrina 1   May-17-11 05:37 PM   #10 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-11 05:40 PM   #13 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-11 06:02 PM   #15 
                 - Then I fully expect you to denounce those throwing out emotionally driven innuendos.  joshcryer   May-17-11 07:08 PM   #45 
                 - i so agree josh... nt  seabeyond   May-17-11 07:10 PM   #46 
                 - Well, let's see. So many assumptions in your comment.  sabrina 1   May-17-11 07:59 PM   #56 
                    - No assumptions, if you want to use the "facts" of the slanders against her, then you *must*...  joshcryer   May-17-11 09:14 PM   #70 
                       - Since I have not said anything about the facts, as I don't believe  sabrina 1   May-17-11 11:28 PM   #80 
                          - I presented you with facts.  joshcryer   May-17-11 11:57 PM   #84 
                             - Everything you presented is AFTER, a reaction to, the allleged crime.  sabrina 1   May-18-11 02:25 AM   #94 
                                - What? The crime itself is described in the court paperwork. I was giving you examples of people...  joshcryer   May-18-11 02:31 AM   #95 
                                   - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-18-11 02:42 AM   #99 
                 - Thanks for serving, sabrina 1.  Eddie Haskell   May-17-11 08:10 PM   #58 
                    - I'm thinking, maybe we are!  sabrina 1   May-18-11 04:34 AM   #109 
              - People who have consensual sex don't usually report it to  sufrommich   May-17-11 06:06 PM   #17 
                 - Sometimes they do.  sabrina 1   May-17-11 06:14 PM   #20 
                    - now we have the .... she is lying, move. damn. nt  seabeyond   May-17-11 06:33 PM   #36 
                    - No, actually, we don't. The only person who knows anything  sabrina 1   May-17-11 07:31 PM   #52 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-11 07:41 PM   #53 
                          - Seabeyond, I am not playing at all. I take this very seriously  sabrina 1   May-17-11 08:09 PM   #57 
                             - how many times have you yelled criminal per the wikileaks that have not gone to court  seabeyond   May-17-11 08:27 PM   #64 
                                - seabeyond, I know this has really riled you up today, and I'm proud of you.  joshcryer   May-17-11 11:15 PM   #77 
                                - hey  seabeyond   May-17-11 11:47 PM   #83 
                                - Wrong, what I have called for in those instances is PROSECUTION.  sabrina 1   May-17-11 11:19 PM   #78 
                                   - I take it you're behind the ICCs latest prosecutions. You never say "alleged war crimes..."  joshcryer   May-17-11 11:21 PM   #79 
                                   - They are not alleged, they are a fact. There are bodies, there are  sabrina 1   May-18-11 01:40 AM   #86 
                                      - You've seen the videos? It's all alleged, until it goes into the court of law. *Your* metric.  joshcryer   May-18-11 01:57 AM   #88 
                                         - The claims are not mine, the claims are from members of Congress  sabrina 1   May-18-11 02:07 AM   #90 
                                            - Yes, but, see, by your own standard they're all innocent until proven guilty in court.  joshcryer   May-18-11 02:14 AM   #92 
                                            - Before they are proven guilty, they have to be found. Where are the  sabrina 1   May-18-11 02:54 AM   #101 
                                            - Oh so now you just throw out the fifth amendment?  joshcryer   May-18-11 03:11 AM   #102 
                                            - You should take a break. You are getting more and more confused.  sabrina 1   May-18-11 03:46 AM   #105 
                                            - It's simple, you say we're wrong for finding guilt with DSK with the evidence presented...  joshcryer   May-18-11 04:04 AM   #106 
                                            - When I see evidence, I will accept it.  sabrina 1   May-18-11 04:45 AM   #110 
                                   - so you decide it is war crimes. you gathered the information and you came to the conclusion they ar...  seabeyond   May-17-11 11:45 PM   #82 
                                      - I did not decide there are war crimes.  sabrina 1   May-18-11 01:57 AM   #89 
                                         - Actually, by your own standard those war crimes cannot be considered so unless proven in court.  joshcryer   May-18-11 02:17 AM   #93 
                                         - You really do have problems understanding simple facts.  sabrina 1   May-18-11 02:31 AM   #96 
                                            - Easy.  joshcryer   May-18-11 02:40 AM   #98 
                                            - Yes, those questions are asked. And once it is established  sabrina 1   May-18-11 03:31 AM   #104 
                                            - This OP is about DSK. See post #106. Hypocrisy abounds.  joshcryer   May-18-11 04:06 AM   #107 
                                            - I have been far too tolerant of your personal attacks, I am glad  sabrina 1   May-18-11 04:32 AM   #108 
                                         - so you have concluded these numbers of crimes and they hurt and disgust you. i hear ya.  seabeyond   May-18-11 06:28 AM   #113 
                    - We know more than "nothing" about this case.  joshcryer   May-18-11 02:51 AM   #100 
  - FYI... I haven't seen this mentioned yet on DU..  nenagh   May-17-11 06:11 PM   #18 
     - Which is rare for law enforcement.  nadinbrzezinski   May-17-11 06:29 PM   #33 
        - I would think it would be rare... sadly..  nenagh   May-17-11 06:57 PM   #43 
  - working her ass off cleaning other peoples toilets, walks into his room, falls on her knees and begs  seabeyond   May-17-11 05:25 PM   #2 
  - Wow!  sabrina 1   May-17-11 05:29 PM   #6 
  - Wow is right!!  Eddie Haskell   May-17-11 08:18 PM   #60 
  - +rec and she asked to be beaten of course...  meow mix   May-17-11 06:22 PM   #27 
  - i cannot believe the number of apologists. and they are always the same.  seabeyond   May-17-11 06:34 PM   #38 
     - Then you say he's guilty as charged?  Eddie Haskell   May-17-11 08:23 PM   #61 
        - i am not sittin on a jury... am i. i bet you dont accuse cheney/ bush of breaking the law either  seabeyond   May-17-11 08:25 PM   #62 
        - Nope, and if she or I were sitting in the jury selection process they'd catch us quick.  joshcryer   May-18-11 12:01 AM   #85 
  - Agree  Prometheus Bound   May-17-11 07:55 PM   #55 
  - You've got this right  customerserviceguy   May-17-11 10:26 PM   #73 
  - dude. look up "presumption of innocence" one of these days.  inna   May-18-11 02:38 AM   #97 
     - gathered my information. came to my conclusion. as you do the same  seabeyond   May-18-11 06:18 AM   #112 
  - Wow--when I posted this from the New York Post, I was castigated.....  msanthrope   May-17-11 05:37 PM   #11 
  - Speculation by unknown persons who officially speak for nobody  Sen. Walter Sobchak   May-17-11 06:16 PM   #22 
  - so why make up some shit about how he wasn't there and had an aliibi  JI7   May-17-11 05:38 PM   #12 
  - Again common in these cases  nadinbrzezinski   May-17-11 05:54 PM   #14 
  - only common if the person is trying to hide something.  DCBob   May-17-11 06:13 PM   #19 
  - Well that goes without saying  nadinbrzezinski   May-17-11 11:35 PM   #81 
  - You mean 'if' the cops find holes. And we do not know whether  sabrina 1   May-17-11 06:27 PM   #32 
     - No way he didn't lawyer up immediately.  joshcryer   May-17-11 06:55 PM   #42 
  - Show me a source that says that doesn't remain THEIR story  Sen. Walter Sobchak   May-17-11 06:23 PM   #28 
  - Their initial timeline had the event at 1 pm, when he was at lunch  jberryhill   May-17-11 06:41 PM   #39 
     - Reading skills and basic logic often appear to be lacking, yes.  Ghost Dog   May-17-11 07:17 PM   #48 
  - He can claim anything he wants.  WinkyDink   May-17-11 06:15 PM   #21 
  - He isn't claiming this, an anonymous source is speculating it could be a defense  Sen. Walter Sobchak   May-17-11 06:19 PM   #24 
     - I think "can" accounts for speculation.  WinkyDink   May-17-11 06:32 PM   #35 
  - Sounds like hedidit!  Taverner   May-17-11 06:16 PM   #23 
  - Looks like there goes the story that he wasn't even in the hotel,  LisaL   May-17-11 06:21 PM   #25 
  - Show me a statement in which his council are claiming consensual sex.  Sen. Walter Sobchak   May-17-11 06:25 PM   #30 
     - That's why I said "looks like." Assuming what published in NYT is correct.  LisaL   May-17-11 06:30 PM   #34 
  - so he had consensual sex with the maid while lunching with his daughter?  lanlady   May-17-11 06:24 PM   #29 
  - Did you read the article? This is speculation. It is from an  sabrina 1   May-17-11 06:34 PM   #37 
     - a bit *morbidly* fascinating, if anything. apparently, some people have conducted kangaroo courts  inna   May-18-11 03:13 AM   #103 
        - Yes, seems that way ~ I think it was the 'socialist' part got him  sabrina 1   May-18-11 04:46 AM   #111 
  - Here's how I see it  frazzled   May-17-11 06:26 PM   #31 
  - exactly, they would have not gone through this dramatic arrest unless she had been very credible  bettyellen   May-17-11 06:41 PM   #40 
  - The facts of thousands of innocents charged and jailed all the time GOES AGAINST YOU  Distant Observer   May-17-11 08:52 PM   #68 
     - so gosh I guess you think no one should be arrested them? WTF - what foolishness are you suggesting  bettyellen   May-17-11 11:06 PM   #76 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-11 07:01 PM   #44 
  - you are right on and it is such an obvious, why i am amazed at some of the posts. nt  seabeyond   May-17-11 07:11 PM   #47 
  - True enough.  Ghost Dog   May-17-11 07:25 PM   #50 
  - That's what I've been thinking. Hell, even a cursory glance at an occasional  blondeatlast   May-17-11 10:10 PM   #72 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-17-11 07:24 PM   #49 
  - What a weird story.  Warren DeMontague   May-17-11 07:29 PM   #51 
  - Maid's world turned upside down over Dominique Strauss-Kahn's alleged sex assault  steve2470   May-17-11 08:15 PM   #59 
  - OK this is horrible, the French press is publishing her NAME.....  steve2470   May-17-11 08:38 PM   #66 
  - But they are outraged of the perp walk  nadinbrzezinski   May-17-11 08:51 PM   #67 
     - I feel very bad for that woman. Her life will be a mess short term, perhaps forever.  steve2470   May-17-11 08:56 PM   #69 
  - DSK probably has more peace in Riker's Island than the victim and her neighbors  blondeatlast   May-17-11 10:29 PM   #74 
  - IMF Chief May Claim Insanity. IT IS ALL SPECULATION, but obviously sells  Distant Observer   May-17-11 08:26 PM   #63 
  - Actually, while you pose it as a joke,  nadinbrzezinski   May-17-11 08:33 PM   #65 
  - YES. Every hotel maid fantasizes about oral sex with fat old men!  Nye Bevan   May-17-11 09:27 PM   #71 
  - First he denied they had sex. Now that they have DNA, he admits to sex, but consentual.  Lil Missy   May-18-11 01:53 AM   #87 
     - He has not admited to sex, he has not changed his story  Sen. Walter Sobchak   May-18-11 02:13 AM   #91 
 

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