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Tue May-17-11 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #14 |
| 19. only common if the person is trying to hide something. |
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Edited on Tue May-17-11 06:13 PM by DCBob
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| -NYT: I.M.F. Chief May Claim Consensual Sex as a Defense |
steve2470 |
May-17-11 05:22 PM |
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This is common as a defense |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-17-11 05:24 PM |
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oh but really, we cant say anything, we must wait for conviction before accusing him of a pig. nt |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 05:26 PM |
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Wait for a conviction? What a novel idea. Some guys |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 05:34 PM |
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He'll get his day in court. Comments on the internet don't |
sufrommich |
May-17-11 06:05 PM |
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Ask the Duke Lacrosse players |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 06:21 PM |
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Not all cases are created equal.The Lacrosse case was |
sufrommich |
May-17-11 06:44 PM |
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Yes, of course cases are not all the same. But it is wrong to say |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 07:47 PM |
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he's a pig now. there are other women and this one? She's a very |
roguevalley |
May-17-11 10:37 PM |
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Which means what happened? n/t |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 05:28 PM |
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which means he assaulted her unless you are suggesting she "asked" for it. nt |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 05:29 PM |
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It means he MAY be stating the sex was consensual. |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 05:31 PM |
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and what does that tell you. he MAY be saying it is consentual. we have to see if it flies, nt |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 05:33 PM |
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It tells me that this may be his claim. That is all. |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 05:37 PM |
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May-17-11 05:40 PM |
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May-17-11 06:02 PM |
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Then I fully expect you to denounce those throwing out emotionally driven innuendos. |
joshcryer |
May-17-11 07:08 PM |
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i so agree josh... nt |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 07:10 PM |
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Well, let's see. So many assumptions in your comment. |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 07:59 PM |
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No assumptions, if you want to use the "facts" of the slanders against her, then you *must*... |
joshcryer |
May-17-11 09:14 PM |
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Since I have not said anything about the facts, as I don't believe |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 11:28 PM |
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I presented you with facts. |
joshcryer |
May-17-11 11:57 PM |
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Everything you presented is AFTER, a reaction to, the allleged crime. |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 02:25 AM |
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What? The crime itself is described in the court paperwork. I was giving you examples of people... |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 02:31 AM |
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May-18-11 02:42 AM |
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Thanks for serving, sabrina 1. |
Eddie Haskell |
May-17-11 08:10 PM |
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I'm thinking, maybe we are! |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 04:34 AM |
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People who have consensual sex don't usually report it to |
sufrommich |
May-17-11 06:06 PM |
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Sometimes they do. |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 06:14 PM |
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now we have the .... she is lying, move. damn. nt |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 06:33 PM |
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No, actually, we don't. The only person who knows anything |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 07:31 PM |
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May-17-11 07:41 PM |
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Seabeyond, I am not playing at all. I take this very seriously |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 08:09 PM |
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how many times have you yelled criminal per the wikileaks that have not gone to court |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 08:27 PM |
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seabeyond, I know this has really riled you up today, and I'm proud of you. |
joshcryer |
May-17-11 11:15 PM |
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hey |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 11:47 PM |
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Wrong, what I have called for in those instances is PROSECUTION. |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 11:19 PM |
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I take it you're behind the ICCs latest prosecutions. You never say "alleged war crimes..." |
joshcryer |
May-17-11 11:21 PM |
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They are not alleged, they are a fact. There are bodies, there are |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 01:40 AM |
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You've seen the videos? It's all alleged, until it goes into the court of law. *Your* metric. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 01:57 AM |
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The claims are not mine, the claims are from members of Congress |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 02:07 AM |
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Yes, but, see, by your own standard they're all innocent until proven guilty in court. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 02:14 AM |
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Before they are proven guilty, they have to be found. Where are the |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 02:54 AM |
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Oh so now you just throw out the fifth amendment? |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 03:11 AM |
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You should take a break. You are getting more and more confused. |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 03:46 AM |
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It's simple, you say we're wrong for finding guilt with DSK with the evidence presented... |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 04:04 AM |
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When I see evidence, I will accept it. |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 04:45 AM |
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so you decide it is war crimes. you gathered the information and you came to the conclusion they ar... |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 11:45 PM |
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I did not decide there are war crimes. |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 01:57 AM |
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Actually, by your own standard those war crimes cannot be considered so unless proven in court. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 02:17 AM |
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You really do have problems understanding simple facts. |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 02:31 AM |
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Easy. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 02:40 AM |
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Yes, those questions are asked. And once it is established |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 03:31 AM |
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This OP is about DSK. See post #106. Hypocrisy abounds. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 04:06 AM |
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I have been far too tolerant of your personal attacks, I am glad |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 04:32 AM |
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so you have concluded these numbers of crimes and they hurt and disgust you. i hear ya. |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 06:28 AM |
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We know more than "nothing" about this case. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 02:51 AM |
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FYI... I haven't seen this mentioned yet on DU.. |
nenagh |
May-17-11 06:11 PM |
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Which is rare for law enforcement. |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-17-11 06:29 PM |
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I would think it would be rare... sadly.. |
nenagh |
May-17-11 06:57 PM |
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working her ass off cleaning other peoples toilets, walks into his room, falls on her knees and begs |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 05:25 PM |
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Wow! |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 05:29 PM |
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Wow is right!! |
Eddie Haskell |
May-17-11 08:18 PM |
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+rec and she asked to be beaten of course... |
meow mix |
May-17-11 06:22 PM |
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i cannot believe the number of apologists. and they are always the same. |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 06:34 PM |
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Then you say he's guilty as charged? |
Eddie Haskell |
May-17-11 08:23 PM |
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i am not sittin on a jury... am i. i bet you dont accuse cheney/ bush of breaking the law either |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 08:25 PM |
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Nope, and if she or I were sitting in the jury selection process they'd catch us quick. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 12:01 AM |
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Agree |
Prometheus Bound |
May-17-11 07:55 PM |
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You've got this right |
customerserviceguy |
May-17-11 10:26 PM |
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dude. look up "presumption of innocence" one of these days. |
inna |
May-18-11 02:38 AM |
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gathered my information. came to my conclusion. as you do the same |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 06:18 AM |
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Wow--when I posted this from the New York Post, I was castigated..... |
msanthrope |
May-17-11 05:37 PM |
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Speculation by unknown persons who officially speak for nobody |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
May-17-11 06:16 PM |
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so why make up some shit about how he wasn't there and had an aliibi |
JI7 |
May-17-11 05:38 PM |
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Again common in these cases |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-17-11 05:54 PM |
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only common if the person is trying to hide something. |
DCBob |
May-17-11 06:13 PM |
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Well that goes without saying |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-17-11 11:35 PM |
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You mean 'if' the cops find holes. And we do not know whether |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 06:27 PM |
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No way he didn't lawyer up immediately. |
joshcryer |
May-17-11 06:55 PM |
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Show me a source that says that doesn't remain THEIR story |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
May-17-11 06:23 PM |
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Their initial timeline had the event at 1 pm, when he was at lunch |
jberryhill |
May-17-11 06:41 PM |
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Reading skills and basic logic often appear to be lacking, yes. |
Ghost Dog |
May-17-11 07:17 PM |
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He can claim anything he wants. |
WinkyDink |
May-17-11 06:15 PM |
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He isn't claiming this, an anonymous source is speculating it could be a defense |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
May-17-11 06:19 PM |
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I think "can" accounts for speculation. |
WinkyDink |
May-17-11 06:32 PM |
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Sounds like hedidit! |
Taverner |
May-17-11 06:16 PM |
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Looks like there goes the story that he wasn't even in the hotel, |
LisaL |
May-17-11 06:21 PM |
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Show me a statement in which his council are claiming consensual sex. |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
May-17-11 06:25 PM |
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That's why I said "looks like." Assuming what published in NYT is correct. |
LisaL |
May-17-11 06:30 PM |
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so he had consensual sex with the maid while lunching with his daughter? |
lanlady |
May-17-11 06:24 PM |
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Did you read the article? This is speculation. It is from an |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 06:34 PM |
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a bit *morbidly* fascinating, if anything. apparently, some people have conducted kangaroo courts |
inna |
May-18-11 03:13 AM |
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Yes, seems that way ~ I think it was the 'socialist' part got him |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 04:46 AM |
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Here's how I see it |
frazzled |
May-17-11 06:26 PM |
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exactly, they would have not gone through this dramatic arrest unless she had been very credible |
bettyellen |
May-17-11 06:41 PM |
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The facts of thousands of innocents charged and jailed all the time GOES AGAINST YOU |
Distant Observer |
May-17-11 08:52 PM |
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so gosh I guess you think no one should be arrested them? WTF - what foolishness are you suggesting |
bettyellen |
May-17-11 11:06 PM |
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May-17-11 07:01 PM |
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you are right on and it is such an obvious, why i am amazed at some of the posts. nt |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 07:11 PM |
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True enough. |
Ghost Dog |
May-17-11 07:25 PM |
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That's what I've been thinking. Hell, even a cursory glance at an occasional |
blondeatlast |
May-17-11 10:10 PM |
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May-17-11 07:24 PM |
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What a weird story. |
Warren DeMontague |
May-17-11 07:29 PM |
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Maid's world turned upside down over Dominique Strauss-Kahn's alleged sex assault |
steve2470 |
May-17-11 08:15 PM |
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OK this is horrible, the French press is publishing her NAME..... |
steve2470 |
May-17-11 08:38 PM |
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But they are outraged of the perp walk |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-17-11 08:51 PM |
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I feel very bad for that woman. Her life will be a mess short term, perhaps forever. |
steve2470 |
May-17-11 08:56 PM |
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DSK probably has more peace in Riker's Island than the victim and her neighbors |
blondeatlast |
May-17-11 10:29 PM |
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IMF Chief May Claim Insanity. IT IS ALL SPECULATION, but obviously sells |
Distant Observer |
May-17-11 08:26 PM |
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Actually, while you pose it as a joke, |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-17-11 08:33 PM |
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YES. Every hotel maid fantasizes about oral sex with fat old men! |
Nye Bevan |
May-17-11 09:27 PM |
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First he denied they had sex. Now that they have DNA, he admits to sex, but consentual. |
Lil Missy |
May-18-11 01:53 AM |
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He has not admited to sex, he has not changed his story |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
May-18-11 02:13 AM |
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