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Tue May-17-11 05:25 PM
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| 2. working her ass off cleaning other peoples toilets, walks into his room, falls on her knees and begs |
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to be able to suck his dick
what a dirty filthy pig of a man he is and anyone wants to tell me wait until trial..... fuck that shit. the man has admitted to it. now the only defense is she wanted it. she asked for it
fucking dirty rotten pig
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| -NYT: I.M.F. Chief May Claim Consensual Sex as a Defense |
steve2470 |
May-17-11 05:22 PM |
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This is common as a defense |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-17-11 05:24 PM |
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oh but really, we cant say anything, we must wait for conviction before accusing him of a pig. nt |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 05:26 PM |
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Wait for a conviction? What a novel idea. Some guys |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 05:34 PM |
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He'll get his day in court. Comments on the internet don't |
sufrommich |
May-17-11 06:05 PM |
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Ask the Duke Lacrosse players |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 06:21 PM |
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Not all cases are created equal.The Lacrosse case was |
sufrommich |
May-17-11 06:44 PM |
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Yes, of course cases are not all the same. But it is wrong to say |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 07:47 PM |
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he's a pig now. there are other women and this one? She's a very |
roguevalley |
May-17-11 10:37 PM |
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Which means what happened? n/t |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 05:28 PM |
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which means he assaulted her unless you are suggesting she "asked" for it. nt |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 05:29 PM |
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It means he MAY be stating the sex was consensual. |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 05:31 PM |
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and what does that tell you. he MAY be saying it is consentual. we have to see if it flies, nt |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 05:33 PM |
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It tells me that this may be his claim. That is all. |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 05:37 PM |
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May-17-11 05:40 PM |
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May-17-11 06:02 PM |
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Then I fully expect you to denounce those throwing out emotionally driven innuendos. |
joshcryer |
May-17-11 07:08 PM |
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i so agree josh... nt |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 07:10 PM |
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Well, let's see. So many assumptions in your comment. |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 07:59 PM |
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No assumptions, if you want to use the "facts" of the slanders against her, then you *must*... |
joshcryer |
May-17-11 09:14 PM |
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Since I have not said anything about the facts, as I don't believe |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 11:28 PM |
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I presented you with facts. |
joshcryer |
May-17-11 11:57 PM |
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Everything you presented is AFTER, a reaction to, the allleged crime. |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 02:25 AM |
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What? The crime itself is described in the court paperwork. I was giving you examples of people... |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 02:31 AM |
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May-18-11 02:42 AM |
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Thanks for serving, sabrina 1. |
Eddie Haskell |
May-17-11 08:10 PM |
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I'm thinking, maybe we are! |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 04:34 AM |
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People who have consensual sex don't usually report it to |
sufrommich |
May-17-11 06:06 PM |
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Sometimes they do. |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 06:14 PM |
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now we have the .... she is lying, move. damn. nt |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 06:33 PM |
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No, actually, we don't. The only person who knows anything |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 07:31 PM |
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May-17-11 07:41 PM |
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Seabeyond, I am not playing at all. I take this very seriously |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 08:09 PM |
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how many times have you yelled criminal per the wikileaks that have not gone to court |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 08:27 PM |
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seabeyond, I know this has really riled you up today, and I'm proud of you. |
joshcryer |
May-17-11 11:15 PM |
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hey |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 11:47 PM |
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Wrong, what I have called for in those instances is PROSECUTION. |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 11:19 PM |
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I take it you're behind the ICCs latest prosecutions. You never say "alleged war crimes..." |
joshcryer |
May-17-11 11:21 PM |
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They are not alleged, they are a fact. There are bodies, there are |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 01:40 AM |
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You've seen the videos? It's all alleged, until it goes into the court of law. *Your* metric. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 01:57 AM |
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The claims are not mine, the claims are from members of Congress |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 02:07 AM |
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Yes, but, see, by your own standard they're all innocent until proven guilty in court. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 02:14 AM |
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Before they are proven guilty, they have to be found. Where are the |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 02:54 AM |
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Oh so now you just throw out the fifth amendment? |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 03:11 AM |
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You should take a break. You are getting more and more confused. |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 03:46 AM |
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It's simple, you say we're wrong for finding guilt with DSK with the evidence presented... |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 04:04 AM |
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When I see evidence, I will accept it. |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 04:45 AM |
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so you decide it is war crimes. you gathered the information and you came to the conclusion they ar... |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 11:45 PM |
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I did not decide there are war crimes. |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 01:57 AM |
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Actually, by your own standard those war crimes cannot be considered so unless proven in court. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 02:17 AM |
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You really do have problems understanding simple facts. |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 02:31 AM |
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Easy. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 02:40 AM |
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Yes, those questions are asked. And once it is established |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 03:31 AM |
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This OP is about DSK. See post #106. Hypocrisy abounds. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 04:06 AM |
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I have been far too tolerant of your personal attacks, I am glad |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 04:32 AM |
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so you have concluded these numbers of crimes and they hurt and disgust you. i hear ya. |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 06:28 AM |
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We know more than "nothing" about this case. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 02:51 AM |
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FYI... I haven't seen this mentioned yet on DU.. |
nenagh |
May-17-11 06:11 PM |
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Which is rare for law enforcement. |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-17-11 06:29 PM |
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I would think it would be rare... sadly.. |
nenagh |
May-17-11 06:57 PM |
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working her ass off cleaning other peoples toilets, walks into his room, falls on her knees and begs |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 05:25 PM |
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Wow! |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 05:29 PM |
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Wow is right!! |
Eddie Haskell |
May-17-11 08:18 PM |
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+rec and she asked to be beaten of course... |
meow mix |
May-17-11 06:22 PM |
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i cannot believe the number of apologists. and they are always the same. |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 06:34 PM |
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Then you say he's guilty as charged? |
Eddie Haskell |
May-17-11 08:23 PM |
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i am not sittin on a jury... am i. i bet you dont accuse cheney/ bush of breaking the law either |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 08:25 PM |
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Nope, and if she or I were sitting in the jury selection process they'd catch us quick. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 12:01 AM |
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Agree |
Prometheus Bound |
May-17-11 07:55 PM |
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You've got this right |
customerserviceguy |
May-17-11 10:26 PM |
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dude. look up "presumption of innocence" one of these days. |
inna |
May-18-11 02:38 AM |
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gathered my information. came to my conclusion. as you do the same |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 06:18 AM |
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Wow--when I posted this from the New York Post, I was castigated..... |
msanthrope |
May-17-11 05:37 PM |
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Speculation by unknown persons who officially speak for nobody |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
May-17-11 06:16 PM |
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so why make up some shit about how he wasn't there and had an aliibi |
JI7 |
May-17-11 05:38 PM |
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Again common in these cases |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-17-11 05:54 PM |
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only common if the person is trying to hide something. |
DCBob |
May-17-11 06:13 PM |
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Well that goes without saying |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-17-11 11:35 PM |
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You mean 'if' the cops find holes. And we do not know whether |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 06:27 PM |
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No way he didn't lawyer up immediately. |
joshcryer |
May-17-11 06:55 PM |
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Show me a source that says that doesn't remain THEIR story |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
May-17-11 06:23 PM |
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Their initial timeline had the event at 1 pm, when he was at lunch |
jberryhill |
May-17-11 06:41 PM |
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Reading skills and basic logic often appear to be lacking, yes. |
Ghost Dog |
May-17-11 07:17 PM |
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He can claim anything he wants. |
WinkyDink |
May-17-11 06:15 PM |
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He isn't claiming this, an anonymous source is speculating it could be a defense |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
May-17-11 06:19 PM |
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I think "can" accounts for speculation. |
WinkyDink |
May-17-11 06:32 PM |
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Sounds like hedidit! |
Taverner |
May-17-11 06:16 PM |
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Looks like there goes the story that he wasn't even in the hotel, |
LisaL |
May-17-11 06:21 PM |
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Show me a statement in which his council are claiming consensual sex. |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
May-17-11 06:25 PM |
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That's why I said "looks like." Assuming what published in NYT is correct. |
LisaL |
May-17-11 06:30 PM |
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so he had consensual sex with the maid while lunching with his daughter? |
lanlady |
May-17-11 06:24 PM |
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Did you read the article? This is speculation. It is from an |
sabrina 1 |
May-17-11 06:34 PM |
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a bit *morbidly* fascinating, if anything. apparently, some people have conducted kangaroo courts |
inna |
May-18-11 03:13 AM |
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Yes, seems that way ~ I think it was the 'socialist' part got him |
sabrina 1 |
May-18-11 04:46 AM |
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Here's how I see it |
frazzled |
May-17-11 06:26 PM |
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exactly, they would have not gone through this dramatic arrest unless she had been very credible |
bettyellen |
May-17-11 06:41 PM |
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The facts of thousands of innocents charged and jailed all the time GOES AGAINST YOU |
Distant Observer |
May-17-11 08:52 PM |
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so gosh I guess you think no one should be arrested them? WTF - what foolishness are you suggesting |
bettyellen |
May-17-11 11:06 PM |
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May-17-11 07:01 PM |
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you are right on and it is such an obvious, why i am amazed at some of the posts. nt |
seabeyond |
May-17-11 07:11 PM |
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True enough. |
Ghost Dog |
May-17-11 07:25 PM |
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That's what I've been thinking. Hell, even a cursory glance at an occasional |
blondeatlast |
May-17-11 10:10 PM |
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May-17-11 07:24 PM |
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What a weird story. |
Warren DeMontague |
May-17-11 07:29 PM |
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Maid's world turned upside down over Dominique Strauss-Kahn's alleged sex assault |
steve2470 |
May-17-11 08:15 PM |
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OK this is horrible, the French press is publishing her NAME..... |
steve2470 |
May-17-11 08:38 PM |
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But they are outraged of the perp walk |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-17-11 08:51 PM |
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I feel very bad for that woman. Her life will be a mess short term, perhaps forever. |
steve2470 |
May-17-11 08:56 PM |
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DSK probably has more peace in Riker's Island than the victim and her neighbors |
blondeatlast |
May-17-11 10:29 PM |
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IMF Chief May Claim Insanity. IT IS ALL SPECULATION, but obviously sells |
Distant Observer |
May-17-11 08:26 PM |
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Actually, while you pose it as a joke, |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-17-11 08:33 PM |
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YES. Every hotel maid fantasizes about oral sex with fat old men! |
Nye Bevan |
May-17-11 09:27 PM |
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First he denied they had sex. Now that they have DNA, he admits to sex, but consentual. |
Lil Missy |
May-18-11 01:53 AM |
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He has not admited to sex, he has not changed his story |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
May-18-11 02:13 AM |
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