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3. I don't care if you are completely lawful, as I am - this is still worrisome. n/t K&R
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  -While you weren't looking - the Supreme Court eliminated the 4th Amendment today notesdev  May-16-11 08:18 PM   #0 
  - WTF? And just what are 'sounds of evidence being destroyed?'  leftstreet   May-16-11 08:19 PM   #1 
  - Flushing, probably, if you're unlucky enough to be  kedrys   May-16-11 08:34 PM   #26 
  - So Don't Live In a Home Where the Toilet Is Next to the Front Door?  NashVegas   May-16-11 08:58 PM   #46 
     - Uh, oh  customerserviceguy   May-16-11 09:12 PM   #57 
     - Are you serious, or are you being sarcastic?  Art_from_Ark   May-17-11 12:55 AM   #192 
  - Does it sound anything like a 12 guage pump shotgun slide?  Yavapai   May-16-11 08:49 PM   #39 
  - Or switching the clacker  guruoo   May-17-11 03:38 PM   #278 
  - I know it when I hear it.  hay rick   May-17-11 12:00 AM   #149 
  - Footsteps could mean you were carrying the evidence to the toilet.  Kablooie   May-17-11 12:05 AM   #151 
  - Just about anything anyone ever cares to claim, of course. Or, nothing. Jesus.  DirkGently   May-17-11 10:05 AM   #249 
  - THIS DU POST includes an article re PERMITTED ENTRY WHEN YOU'RE NOT EVEN HOME called 'Sneak & Peek':  cyberpj   May-17-11 05:48 PM   #303 
  - Whatever they say it is, silly.  thanks_imjustlurking   May-17-11 05:57 PM   #304 
  - That was my first question.  RoccoR5955   May-17-11 08:01 PM   #316 
  - Ginsburg was the sole dissent? Dear Lord. nt  blondeatlast   May-16-11 08:19 PM   #2 
  - More evidence how worthless the "two" party distinction is  villager   May-16-11 08:20 PM   #5 
  - So much for those new USSC appointees  Art_from_Ark   May-17-11 12:53 AM   #189 
  - Precisely why we need to primary Obama  Cronus Protagonist   May-17-11 08:28 AM   #231 
  - yea, really, we just can't win.  G_j   May-17-11 04:48 PM   #286 
  - But I thought "we got Kagan"! I heard she was so great! Oh, wait, she sucks like the rest of them.  readmoreoften   May-17-11 01:41 AM   #212 
  - That's what I was thinking, most disappointing that the new Justices don't have greater respect  Uncle Joe   May-17-11 12:56 PM   #268 
     - Your right to privacy comes only after you can show a net worth  russspeakeasy   May-17-11 06:04 PM   #306 
        - One has to draw the line somewhere.  Octafish   May-17-11 09:05 PM   #318 
  - I don't care if you are completely lawful, as I am - this is still worrisome. n/t K&R  LiberalLoner   May-16-11 08:20 PM   #3 
  - Don't worry -- you won't remain completely lawful. The corporate state will make an outlaw of you  villager   May-16-11 08:21 PM   #7 
  - Well I keep saying if they outlaw motrin they better just give me a  LiberalLoner   May-16-11 08:26 PM   #16 
  - Well, these aren't precisely optimism-laded times. As for profit motives in "crime" and imprisonment  villager   May-16-11 08:34 PM   #28 
  - Here is why they want the Drug Laws.  bob4460   May-16-11 08:55 PM   #43 
     - Hmmmm... hadn't thought about it that way.  krispos42   May-16-11 09:34 PM   #71 
  - I think the same and I don't have PTSD. A lot of people see the future in the  RKP5637   May-16-11 08:44 PM   #35 
  - Exactly! Prisons are a very profitable business and the payoffs are great. And then  RKP5637   May-16-11 08:40 PM   #34 
  - The way laws are now written  bob4460   May-16-11 08:49 PM   #40 
  - We are guilty in advance, each of us having already committed "thoughtcrimes."  villager   May-16-11 10:53 PM   #127 
     - 1984 here we come  cutlassmama   May-17-11 02:42 AM   #223 
        - We passed 1984 more than 25 years ago.  Solomon   May-17-11 08:43 AM   #237 
  - Yep. Just as over the years I moved from being a moderate Dem to a radical leftie  RaleighNCDUer   May-17-11 03:47 PM   #279 
  - so the police can say "we heard sounds", whether they did or not.  niyad   May-16-11 08:22 PM   #9 
  - Germany, WWII! n/t  RKP5637   May-16-11 08:46 PM   #36 
  - Extremely worrisome. Armed "police" bursting in to homes  ecstatic   May-16-11 09:40 PM   #75 
  - You might want to...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:47 PM   #83 
  - If you're not on the floor you'll be tazed  Eddie Haskell   May-17-11 04:57 PM   #289 
  - Yes, the mayor who had the police break in, shoot his dog and terrorize  csziggy   May-16-11 10:25 PM   #121 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-16-11 08:20 PM   #4 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-16-11 08:22 PM   #10 
  - I'm right here to ask the same question...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 08:27 PM   #18 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-16-11 08:29 PM   #19 
     - I can't believe anyone would be stupid enough to be fine with this decision  Occulus   May-16-11 08:35 PM   #29 
     - Did you read the decision or not?  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 08:39 PM   #32 
        - "READ THE BILL! READ THE BILL!"  girl gone mad   May-16-11 11:55 PM   #147 
        - You may not be saying it's right, but you're certainly not saying it's wrong.  LooseWilly   May-17-11 12:39 AM   #178 
           - Would you show me where I...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:50 AM   #186 
           - Sure... here's where you  LooseWilly   May-17-11 01:20 AM   #208 
           - Dude...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 01:45 AM   #215 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-11 02:38 AM   #222 
                 - Ummm, LW....  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 08:28 AM   #232 
                    - Dude...  LooseWilly   May-18-11 03:00 AM   #320 
           - 'reliably liberal?'  appal_jack   May-17-11 09:16 AM   #239 
              - "statist power-grabbers"  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 09:49 AM   #242 
           - The rich still have big fences, gates, and the 4th.  Eddie Haskell   May-17-11 05:02 PM   #291 
           - great post  RainDog   May-17-11 05:08 PM   #293 
     - No...they really aren't...n/t  Horse with no Name   May-16-11 11:21 PM   #138 
     - And Breyer, Kagan and Sotomayor are wrong IMO  rpannier   May-17-11 01:54 AM   #218 
  - And Breyer, Kagan, and Sotomayor signed off on this crap?  Pab Sungenis   May-16-11 08:20 PM   #6 
  - Good thing we elected a democrat  zipplewrath   May-16-11 08:26 PM   #15 
  - You can't say that all of Sotomoyer and Kagens decisions have  MadMaddie   May-16-11 08:30 PM   #22 
  - see the link in post 14 for that answer  niyad   May-16-11 08:31 PM   #23 
  - .  Bluebear   May-17-11 01:22 AM   #209 
  - I can say this  zipplewrath   May-17-11 11:35 AM   #265 
  - One independent researcher found over 400 cases of the wrong house being targeted.  truedelphi   May-17-11 02:19 PM   #269 
  - +1  slay   May-17-11 03:20 AM   #227 
  - i was waiting for it to be obama's fault somehow...  dionysus   May-17-11 08:33 AM   #234 
  - Damn, I was just about ready to blame this all on the ROBERTS BARONS FIVE!!!  cascadiance   May-17-11 03:59 PM   #282 
  - There needs to be more checks and balances on the SCOTUS  Drale   May-16-11 08:21 PM   #8 
  - I am trying to figure out how the Supreme Court, the third branch  Samantha   May-17-11 06:28 PM   #311 
  - I wonder what sounds suggest evidence is being destroyed.  Gregorian   May-16-11 08:22 PM   #11 
  - Holds up where?  leeroysphitz   May-16-11 08:53 PM   #41 
     - The lawsuits that will follow.  Gregorian   May-16-11 09:21 PM   #66 
        - The defendant was not...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:23 PM   #68 
        - yes he is, until proven guilty.... nt.  DRex   May-17-11 04:32 PM   #284 
           - He WAS proven guilty...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 05:11 PM   #295 
        - The Supreme Court is the final decision  Confusious   May-17-11 05:17 PM   #298 
           - That's just depressing.  Gregorian   May-18-11 12:50 AM   #319 
  - If they don't have a warrant, what fucking business is it of theirs what is or isn't being destroyed  Hassin Bin Sober   May-16-11 08:23 PM   #12 
  - And what should the people do if we hear the government shredding the constitution?  originalpckelly   May-16-11 08:23 PM   #13 
  - Yup. n/t  LiberalLoner   May-16-11 08:27 PM   #17 
  - goes right along with this ruling last week in IN  niyad   May-16-11 08:23 PM   #14 
  - Yes it does. Somehow over the last fifteen years, the police  truedelphi   May-17-11 03:12 PM   #275 
  - 8-1  Broderick   May-16-11 08:29 PM   #20 
  - Here is the Actual Opinion  happyslug   May-16-11 08:30 PM   #21 
  - Fucking scary. nt  ZombieHorde   May-16-11 08:34 PM   #25 
  - Ugh yeah. I'd say so! fucking scary!  lonestarnot   May-17-11 12:13 AM   #155 
  - Holy fuck....they went into the apartment next door and busted them, NOT the one the "drug-dealer"..  truebrit71   May-17-11 09:56 AM   #246 
     - "so the fuzz set up a buy (also known as entrapment)"  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 10:03 AM   #248 
  - Our government has lost all legitimacy. If the PTB are no longer bound by the Constitution...  Odin2005   May-16-11 08:34 PM   #24 
  - What exactly is all that new about this?  skepticscott   May-16-11 08:34 PM   #27 
  - Yep I've watched enough law and order episodes to know that  sammytko   May-16-11 10:02 PM   #101 
  - This is the capper  zipplewrath   May-17-11 11:40 AM   #266 
  - And it was all about weed too.  originalpckelly   May-16-11 08:36 PM   #30 
  - No, it wasn't....  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 08:55 PM   #44 
     - i aint afraid of you SDuderstadt , because without that keyboard you're nothing but a skinny, lunger  dionysus   May-16-11 09:01 PM   #47 
     - Go ahead...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:03 PM   #49 
     - why SDuderstadt, you're stuck on the same quote over and over. ain't that a daisy?  dionysus   May-16-11 09:04 PM   #51 
        - Yes, but there's just something about him...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:10 PM   #55 
           - sorry to interrupt...  ProdigalJunkMail   May-16-11 11:24 PM   #140 
              - In vino veritas...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 11:27 PM   #142 
                 - I'm your Huckleberry...  LooseWilly   May-17-11 02:04 AM   #219 
                    - "It was all about the weed"  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 02:13 AM   #220 
                       - The police don't get to just go on hunches when breaking down doors.  LooseWilly   May-17-11 02:47 AM   #224 
                          - Take it up with...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 08:30 AM   #233 
     - +11111!!!  readmoreoften   May-17-11 01:44 AM   #214 
        - Dude...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 01:47 AM   #217 
     - Um, which decision did you read?  originalpckelly   May-16-11 09:03 PM   #50 
        - You missed the words...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:06 PM   #53 
           - They wouldn't have had a suspicion as to where he was...  originalpckelly   May-16-11 09:09 PM   #54 
              - They were pursuing a suspected cocaine dealer...n/t  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:11 PM   #56 
                 - So it of course makes sense that they smelled weed and suspected him.  originalpckelly   May-16-11 09:20 PM   #65 
                 - They had a choice between two doors...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:22 PM   #67 
                 - Why do you think it's somehow justified because it's a cocaine dealer?  Matariki   May-16-11 09:52 PM   #89 
                    - Read the decision...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:54 PM   #91 
                       - YOU READ IT - BECAUSE YOU CLEARLY MISSED THIS IMPORTANT BIT:  Matariki   May-16-11 10:00 PM   #97 
                          - They didn't hear another officer tell them which door it was...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 10:02 PM   #102 
                             - And their "judgement" was wrong. Wrong apartment. Wrong person.  Matariki   May-16-11 10:10 PM   #111 
                                - +100.  Hannah Bell   May-16-11 10:13 PM   #113 
                                - You should have submitted an amicus curiae....  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 10:13 PM   #114 
                                - That the best you got?  Matariki   May-16-11 10:15 PM   #115 
                                - You got your ass handed to you, and this is your comeback?  girl gone mad   May-16-11 11:59 PM   #148 
                                - I didn't...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:02 AM   #150 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-11 12:22 AM   #162 
                                      - Perhaps you could tell me...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:24 AM   #165 
                                - we don't take too kindly to law around here lawdog...  dionysus   May-17-11 08:51 AM   #238 
                                   - You're not as stupid as you look...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 09:50 AM   #244 
                                      - don't you think you've been hitting this thread too hard SDuderstadt? you've been at it for 28 hours  dionysus   May-17-11 10:07 AM   #251 
                                         - I have not yet begun to...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 10:10 AM   #254 
                                - +1  leftstreet   May-16-11 10:23 PM   #120 
  - Not much more evidence needed that American is turning into a police state. n/t  RKP5637   May-16-11 08:36 PM   #31 
  - Thank god the police are the good guys.  Kablooie   May-17-11 12:08 AM   #152 
  - Fuck  Richard D   May-16-11 08:39 PM   #33 
  - SCOTUS is turning into a bigger threat to our freedoms than al Qaeda could ever dream of.  Initech   May-16-11 08:48 PM   #37 
  - Them Liberal Activist Judges  FreakinDJ   May-16-11 08:54 PM   #42 
  - It ends when they have everything.  CrispyQ   May-16-11 09:12 PM   #58 
  - so if you are flushing your toilet after your business, there is no need to knock  spanone   May-16-11 08:48 PM   #38 
  - So Obama's "liberal" appointments voted with the right-wing and against the Consitutition  Better Believe It   May-16-11 08:57 PM   #45 
  - I Would Love to Agree With Those In Despair, Here  NashVegas   May-16-11 09:02 PM   #48 
  - Reeking hallway is grounds to try to go to a judge for a search warrant.  LooseWilly   May-17-11 03:57 AM   #228 
  - Just read this ruling in full, The 4th amendment now hinges on the assumptions of a police officer.  usregimechange   May-16-11 09:04 PM   #52 
  - And his assumption that you may be guilty supersedes  randr   May-16-11 09:14 PM   #62 
     - Read the decision....  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:15 PM   #64 
  - Yes, and the case this revolved around was because the cops thought they smelled *pot*.  Matariki   May-16-11 09:12 PM   #59 
  - Read the decision...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:14 PM   #61 
     - And READ MY F*#KING POST  Matariki   May-16-11 09:40 PM   #74 
        - No, this decision did not revolve solely around...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:43 PM   #76 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   May-16-11 09:46 PM   #81 
              - RIGHT ON!!  bob4460   May-16-11 11:23 PM   #139 
  - Holy Shit!  fredamae   May-16-11 09:12 PM   #60 
  - To poorly paraphrase Gore Vidal:  arcane1   May-16-11 09:15 PM   #63 
  - If its yellow, let it mellow ..... if its brown,  BOHICA12   May-16-11 09:45 PM   #79 
  - Your headline is completely absurd. We are talking here about an exception to an exception here.  BzaDem   May-16-11 09:28 PM   #69 
  - It would be frightening if that is what the case was about and  merh   May-16-11 09:32 PM   #70 
  - Bingo!  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:36 PM   #72 
  - It is too hard to think for themselves.  merh   May-16-11 09:40 PM   #73 
  - I've noticed that the...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:44 PM   #78 
     - Read the exact wording of the fourth amendment.  Fuddnik   May-16-11 11:49 PM   #143 
        - Are you arguing that the fourth amendment is absolute? n/t  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 11:53 PM   #146 
           - It should be.  appal_jack   May-17-11 09:31 AM   #240 
              - Okay...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 09:46 AM   #241 
                 - flower-combustion /= imminent harm. n/t  appal_jack   May-17-11 03:11 PM   #274 
  - Then present an article that has more information.  Matariki   May-16-11 09:44 PM   #77 
     - The article mentions precisely what...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:46 PM   #80 
        - I don't give a flying fuck if they were in hot pursuit of a damned coke dealer.  Matariki   May-16-11 09:48 PM   #84 
           - Maybe the Supreme Court should...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:50 PM   #87 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   May-16-11 09:54 PM   #92 
                 - You might want to read DU's....  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:58 PM   #96 
  - Probable Cause is not a basis to enter someone's home without a warrant.  DefenseLawyer   May-16-11 09:49 PM   #85 
  - Thank you. n/t  Matariki   May-16-11 09:50 PM   #86 
  - Maybe you should read the...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:52 PM   #90 
  - I read it.  DefenseLawyer   May-16-11 10:00 PM   #99 
     - Dude...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 10:04 PM   #104 
        - And there's free ice cream and cake for everyone!  DefenseLawyer   May-16-11 10:08 PM   #108 
           - And 8 justices of the....  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 10:09 PM   #110 
  - No warrant is required now if cops chase folks into an apartment &  merh   May-16-11 10:22 PM   #119 
  - Apples and oranges  DefenseLawyer   May-16-11 10:37 PM   #124 
     - "police officers may now knock, listen...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 10:59 PM   #128 
     - Yes, it is one when the cops saw the suspect, the one that  merh   May-16-11 11:17 PM   #137 
  - "if they can then claim that they believed evidence was about to be destroyed"  BzaDem   May-16-11 10:50 PM   #126 
     - Here's the point.  DefenseLawyer   May-16-11 11:00 PM   #129 
        - Well, wasn't this case about how "creating their own exigency" is defined?  BzaDem   May-16-11 11:05 PM   #131 
        - Dude...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 11:07 PM   #132 
           - Unless it is hot pursuit, absolutely. Sorry officer.  DefenseLawyer   May-16-11 11:10 PM   #135 
           - I am no more a police officer than you are a...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 11:14 PM   #136 
              - You're in over your head, son  DefenseLawyer   May-17-11 10:38 AM   #258 
                 - Read the decision again...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 10:41 AM   #259 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-11 11:11 AM   #261 
                       - Dude...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 11:23 AM   #263 
           - That's what I say...  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:08 AM   #153 
              - Ticking time bomb scenario.  OnyxCollie   May-17-11 11:17 AM   #262 
  - OOoooo "probable cause". If probable cause allowed cops to kick in your door every gay person in  readmoreoften   May-17-11 01:43 AM   #213 
  - Thank you. It seemed clearly to be a probable cause issue  Blasphemer   May-17-11 09:57 AM   #247 
     - It has zero to do with probable cause.  DefenseLawyer   May-17-11 10:49 AM   #260 
  - Why don't they have a seach warrant in their hand?  kentuck   May-16-11 09:47 PM   #82 
  - Read the decision, then you...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:55 PM   #93 
  - You are a smart...  kentuck   May-16-11 09:58 PM   #95 
     - No, I took time to actually read the decision before...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 10:00 PM   #98 
        - Clearly you did not.  Matariki   May-16-11 10:01 PM   #100 
        - Which is why they emtered the apartment that reeked of...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 10:05 PM   #105 
           - It reeked? Really?  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:11 AM   #154 
              - I read the decision, dude...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:17 AM   #158 
                 - First of all DUDE  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:22 AM   #163 
                    - Dude is...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:28 AM   #168 
                    - Bullshit....  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:40 AM   #182 
                       - Check out the urban dictionary...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:52 AM   #188 
                       - I don't check out the urban dictionary  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:56 AM   #193 
                       - Cool, dude...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 01:00 AM   #198 
                       - It may be unisex, but your constant use of it is meant to annoy.  unapatriciated   May-17-11 05:10 PM   #294 
                          - Well, then...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 05:13 PM   #296 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-11 05:34 PM   #301 
                       - It is unisex.  Webster Green   May-17-11 01:28 AM   #210 
                          - It is unisex.  OnyxCollie   May-17-11 11:27 AM   #264 
                    - 'Do you have anything worthwhile to say'  Bluebear   May-18-11 05:03 AM   #321 
        - If someone read the decision?  kentuck   May-16-11 10:03 PM   #103 
           - You might want to think about why three...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 10:07 PM   #106 
           - Well, Dude,  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:24 AM   #166 
              - What's really funny is that nearly everyone believes...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:30 AM   #169 
                 - I have no problem with debate...  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:47 AM   #184 
                 - Well, then...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:53 AM   #190 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-11 02:16 AM   #221 
                 - i know, how about a spelling contest!  dionysus   May-17-11 10:10 AM   #253 
                    - You're a daisy...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 10:11 AM   #255 
  - No, warrants arene't that difficult to get.  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:31 AM   #171 
     - Warrants aren't required when...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:37 AM   #176 
        - The question was about warrants being hard to get.  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:45 AM   #183 
           - Well, good...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:55 AM   #191 
              - Maybe I should.  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:57 AM   #195 
                 - Judges exclude evidence on the basis of...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 01:02 AM   #199 
                    - Thanks Mr. Moto....  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 01:06 AM   #203 
                       - Actually, it is...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 01:08 AM   #205 
  - More pot arrests  AndiMer   May-16-11 09:51 PM   #88 
  - You might want to read the decision...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 09:57 PM   #94 
     - I did. It's still bullshit  leftstreet   May-16-11 10:07 PM   #107 
     - 8 justices...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 10:08 PM   #109 
        - That proves nothing. They also ruled in favor of Citizen's United.  Matariki   May-16-11 10:11 PM   #112 
           - Citizen's United was decided...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 10:17 PM   #116 
     - So the Fourth Amendment as a "cocaine exeption"?  DefenseLawyer   May-16-11 10:19 PM   #117 
        - No...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 10:21 PM   #118 
           - You're the one that corrected the comment about marijuana arrests  DefenseLawyer   May-16-11 10:45 PM   #125 
              - Sorry, dude...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 11:02 PM   #130 
                 - What exactly does the drug involved have to do with the Fourth Amendment?  DefenseLawyer   May-16-11 11:07 PM   #133 
                    - No, dude...  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 11:08 PM   #134 
  - Very similar issue posted recently  Matariki   May-16-11 10:26 PM   #122 
  - "very similar"  SDuderstadt   May-16-11 10:28 PM   #123 
  - This plays into the conservatives also pushing for looser laws allowing people to shoot intruders  glinda   May-16-11 11:25 PM   #141 
  - k & r  girl gone mad   May-16-11 11:49 PM   #144 
  - The bottom line is, the stupid fucking drug war is out of control.  Warren DeMontague   May-16-11 11:52 PM   #145 
  - Do we need more proof that the Supreme Court is worthless?  somone   May-17-11 12:14 AM   #156 
  - I see you didn't read the decision...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:18 AM   #160 
  - And Habeas Corpus, was that ever restored?  lonestarnot   May-17-11 12:15 AM   #157 
  - Hey dude, that guy was smoking weed!!! The cops break into houses all the time.  Rex   May-17-11 12:18 AM   #159 
  - Read the decision...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:19 AM   #161 
  - You really don't have a point, do you? n/t  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:23 AM   #164 
     - No he doesn't.  Rex   May-17-11 12:25 AM   #167 
     - Maybe you could show me where I...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:34 AM   #172 
        - Lemme guess you were a lawyer once.  Rex   May-17-11 12:36 AM   #175 
           - C'mon, Rex...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:39 AM   #179 
           - No, he wasn't a lawyer, he just stayed  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:49 AM   #185 
              - LOL!  Rex   May-17-11 04:10 AM   #229 
     - If you had one...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:31 AM   #170 
        - I did make my point.  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:36 AM   #174 
           - How would that have prevented the...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 12:57 AM   #194 
              - I don't give a fuck about the evidence.  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 12:58 AM   #196 
                 - Of course you don't...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 01:04 AM   #201 
                    - I didn't say a thing about them being misunderstood.  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 01:05 AM   #202 
                       - The cops didn't bust down the door merely...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 01:12 AM   #206 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-17-11 01:47 AM   #216 
  - Yeah, they pretty much left it in the hands of police officers  MadHound   May-17-11 12:34 AM   #173 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-17-11 12:59 AM   #197 
  - while i think this is a very bad decision, it's my impression it doesn't  Hannah Bell   May-17-11 12:38 AM   #177 
  - Do you realize that even the Freepers are freaked out by this! We agree on something!  Kablooie   May-17-11 12:39 AM   #180 
  - Grotesque. This ruling begs for abuse. And will receive it.  DirkGently   May-17-11 12:40 AM   #181 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-11 12:51 AM   #187 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-11 01:03 AM   #200 
  - yep  ohheckyeah   May-17-11 01:07 AM   #204 
     - "giving up 'all' of our 4th amendment rights for"  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 01:17 AM   #207 
        - Are you really comfortable with this?  999998th word   May-17-11 03:02 AM   #225 
           - Pls ignore the 'line through 'IDK how it happened cant fix  999998th word   May-17-11 03:11 AM   #226 
           - I see both sides of the issue...  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 08:40 AM   #236 
              - You seem to be forgetting something.  dorkulon   May-17-11 07:34 PM   #315 
  - Well done, Sotomayor and Kagan. Good thing we have your "liberal" votes.  Bluebear   May-17-11 01:30 AM   #211 
  - Just another law to keep the people in their place.  fasttense   May-17-11 07:15 AM   #230 
  - "You'll have to come back later, I'm doing the dishes!"  CoffeeCat   May-17-11 08:38 AM   #235 
  - I think "I'm changing my adult diaper" would work better.  jp11   May-17-11 09:49 AM   #243 
  - exigent circumstance = carte blanch to do what they want to.  EnviroBat   May-17-11 09:52 AM   #245 
  - "I'm leaving this fucking fascist country..."  SDuderstadt   May-17-11 10:05 AM   #250 
  - So this would apply to hearing a paper shredder in operation at any office too, right?  cyberpj   May-17-11 10:09 AM   #252 
  - This would apply to leaving a TV on while you slept  notesdev   May-17-11 12:43 PM   #267 
  - The Constitution = an old rag that means whatever Sam Alito says it means.  Romulox   May-17-11 10:13 AM   #256 
  - Our Supreme Court is made up of  Chisox08   May-17-11 10:31 AM   #257 
  - When you examine the SCOTUS record on social issues -  truedelphi   May-17-11 02:22 PM   #270 
  - There was NOTHING moderate about the 8 'yeas'--this is a full on Rightwing court  Romulox   May-17-11 03:18 PM   #276 
  - What a weird thread...  liberallunatic   May-17-11 02:45 PM   #271 
  - "people" aren't defending it  bongbong   May-17-11 03:23 PM   #277 
     - You sent me to Wikipedia to look up Rendon  Matariki   May-17-11 06:15 PM   #309 
  - Maybe drugs shouldn't be illegal  abelenkpe   May-17-11 03:00 PM   #272 
  - WTF?  blackspade   May-17-11 03:09 PM   #273 
  - So if I'm in the bathroom doing my business and they knock on the door  Javaman   May-17-11 03:52 PM   #280 
  - So for a joke, you call the police on your friend or neighbor  Beavker   May-17-11 03:52 PM   #281 
  - Prison industrial complex  999998th word   May-17-11 04:20 PM   #283 
  - Unrec for exaggeration in heading  treestar   May-17-11 04:34 PM   #285 
  - Care to provide a link to back up your assertion?  liberation   May-17-11 06:33 PM   #312 
  - Holy CRAP!  Plucketeer   May-17-11 04:54 PM   #287 
  - Loss of rights only applies to the peons  Eddie Haskell   May-17-11 04:55 PM   #288 
  - remember kids, if you don't vote for obama in 2012, the courts will be stacked..  frylock   May-17-11 05:02 PM   #290 
  - What happens after they  sulphurdunn   May-17-11 05:04 PM   #292 
  - Jesus Christ...where did all these Nancy Reagans come from?  Taverner   May-17-11 05:16 PM   #297 
  - There could be trouble if they crash the home of an NRA member  DFW   May-17-11 05:17 PM   #299 
  - That's what I thought as well.  roamer65   May-17-11 06:02 PM   #305 
  - Interpreting that Amendment has never been a Right that we had...  countryjake   May-17-11 05:23 PM   #300 
  - This is a trend.  JoeyTrib   May-17-11 05:43 PM   #302 
  - Yes it is nt  Taverner   May-17-11 06:08 PM   #307 
  - I can hear the testimony now...  GETPLANING   May-17-11 06:10 PM   #308 
  - Yeah.  Dj13Francis   May-17-11 06:17 PM   #310 
  - Feeling more and more like the Third Reich  OwnedByFerrets   May-17-11 06:43 PM   #313 
  - Now Real Cops Get to act just like TV Cops  Wolf Frankula   May-17-11 07:00 PM   #314 
  - ripe for abuse  upi402   May-17-11 08:06 PM   #317 
 

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