| -Chris Hedges: "The Left Has Nowhere to Go" |
Xicano |
Jan-03-11 07:41 PM |
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"Obama, who professes to support core liberal values while carrying out policies that mock these |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-03-11 07:44 PM |
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I don't think there's any "may" about it. |
democrat2thecore |
Jan-04-11 12:59 AM |
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Now that's an interesting and accurate observation. n/t |
crim son |
Jan-04-11 08:38 AM |
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Jan-04-11 01:05 PM |
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I think a primary challenge is critical |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-04-11 07:19 PM |
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So you are on the side of the true republican? What is the true |
Maraya1969 |
Jan-04-11 07:45 PM |
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And his governing by appointee shows us who he really is. |
truedelphi |
Jan-04-11 01:44 PM |
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You're not looking at it right |
JamesJ |
Jan-04-11 06:25 PM |
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USA number one! ...in cancer. |
L0oniX |
Jan-04-11 06:48 PM |
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A hearty welcome to DU, JamesJ. n/t |
truedelphi |
Jan-06-11 02:49 AM |
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Terrific post .... keep tellin' it -- Monsanto's FDA ... all of government is corrupted .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:22 AM |
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Perhaps he thinks it would be best for all, including "the Left" whatever that is, for the Left to |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 06:02 PM |
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"The angriest Obama becomes is when he's talking about the left." Yep, that about sums it up |
earth mom |
Jan-04-11 08:30 PM |
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It gives me the feeling that ideologically, Obama isn't a Democrat. nt |
ladjf |
Jan-04-11 11:51 AM |
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Not just ideologically right wing but a practicing right wing pol |
lark |
Jan-04-11 04:57 PM |
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I have no argument with your observations. It's a very sad and |
ladjf |
Jan-04-11 05:53 PM |
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If you define "Democrat" as "Communist", this is true |
ConservativeDemocrat |
Jan-04-11 05:19 PM |
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We define Democrat as FDR did. Taxing the rich. Medicare for all. Ending the wars. |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-04-11 07:30 PM |
#275 |
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Absolutely. Traditional Democratic ideas... |
democrat2thecore |
Jan-04-11 08:24 PM |
#284 |
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Damn right! Even Eisenhower was MORE of a Democrat than Obama has been! |
cascadiance |
Jan-05-11 07:14 AM |
#315 |
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Exactly. nt |
ladjf |
Jan-05-11 02:55 PM |
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The undeniable fact is Gore would have been inaugurated had Nader not ran n/t |
Still a Democrat |
Jan-04-11 05:16 PM |
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That's a fact. It is also true the the S.C. rigged it later and the |
ladjf |
Jan-04-11 05:55 PM |
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Some believe Gore won the election,,,, but because the supreme |
midnight |
Jan-04-11 06:16 PM |
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Not true ... this was a right wing steal from start to finish ... and Gore actually won ... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:25 AM |
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None of that would have mattered if Nader hadn't ran. |
Still a Democrat |
Jan-05-11 07:13 AM |
#314 |
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You have no evidence of that ... nor any proof that the 537 votes that W "won" with in Florida .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 07:52 PM |
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We'll see where we are about 6 years from now, but my hunch is a lot of |
RKP5637 |
Jan-03-11 07:46 PM |
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If the real winners in six years time will be corporate America and the paradigm continues shifting |
stillwaiting |
Jan-04-11 06:32 AM |
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Might as well eat popcorn and crash through multiple movie sets then. |
RandomThoughts |
Jan-03-11 07:46 PM |
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Go Issa! I suddenly became a fan of Darrell Issa. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-03-11 07:48 PM |
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Darrell Issa's job is to distract |
Enthusiast |
Jan-04-11 06:06 AM |
#88 |
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Let's face it, we have a clinton administration |
molly77 |
Jan-04-11 08:18 AM |
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"President Clinton is going to answer your questions while I go to a party..." |
LastLiberal in PalmSprings |
Jan-04-11 06:19 PM |
#253 |
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Clinton did some good for working folks |
lark |
Jan-04-11 05:00 PM |
#214 |
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Yeah, NAFTA was really a boon for working people |
dflprincess |
Jan-04-11 09:31 PM |
#290 |
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Issa's the drunken heckler in the balcony. n/t |
Plucketeer |
Jan-04-11 11:27 AM |
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Stunning article, |
Autumn |
Jan-03-11 07:50 PM |
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Not really true. |
Somawas |
Jan-04-11 07:28 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Jan-04-11 11:12 AM |
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Huh? |
liberation |
Jan-04-11 11:48 AM |
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You can't vote green and be on this forum. |
Maraya1969 |
Jan-04-11 07:47 PM |
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I think I can. |
Somawas |
Jan-05-11 12:25 PM |
#323 |
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not left or right. |
whattheidonot |
Jan-04-11 12:56 PM |
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Sorry, it is "right" all the way |
lark |
Jan-04-11 05:04 PM |
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This has been the DNC paradigm for 14 of the last 18 years |
MannyGoldstein |
Jan-03-11 07:53 PM |
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yup. |
kgnu_fan |
Jan-03-11 08:26 PM |
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Yup! |
Sherman A1 |
Jan-04-11 02:55 AM |
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Same here. |
Joe Bacon |
Jan-04-11 06:31 AM |
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Really? |
Recursion |
Jan-04-11 03:36 PM |
#180 |
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Well, these guys make money saying what I've been saying for some time... |
SteveM |
Jan-03-11 07:54 PM |
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Interesting post. |
hulka38 |
Jan-04-11 02:02 AM |
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Me too. You have the bones of a great op |
MedicalAdmin |
Jan-04-11 06:24 AM |
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I agree with the others above, please write an essay based upon these thoughts. |
myrna minx |
Jan-04-11 08:06 AM |
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Steve M |
molly77 |
Jan-04-11 08:31 AM |
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Me too. This is indeed something that should be expanded upon N/T |
AikidoSoul |
Jan-04-11 04:23 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Jan-05-11 12:55 AM |
#309 |
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Exactly. |
DeSwiss |
Jan-03-11 07:55 PM |
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Quit reminding us Chris. |
mmonk |
Jan-03-11 07:55 PM |
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Nader is an a******. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-03-11 08:09 PM |
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That was debunked long ago, next... |
mrdmk |
Jan-03-11 08:14 PM |
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No. It was not. |
Lord Magus |
Jan-05-11 12:23 AM |
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If a sumo wrestler farting in your face turns you on, go for it! |
Better Believe It |
Jan-03-11 08:37 PM |
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Nader did not elect Bush in 2000. |
intheflow |
Jan-03-11 09:20 PM |
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Gore went belly up? |
xxqqqzme |
Jan-04-11 03:32 PM |
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Yes, he did. |
Senator |
Jan-04-11 04:55 PM |
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He could have refused to concede. |
intheflow |
Jan-04-11 05:53 PM |
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The claim that Gore gave up is part of the allusion that |
bluestate10 |
Jan-05-11 08:21 PM |
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No, it's a simple fact. |
Senator |
Jan-06-11 04:34 AM |
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Nader was one of several major factors that let it be stolen |
krispos42 |
Jan-05-11 09:42 PM |
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You've been inhaling too many sumo farts. |
girl gone mad |
Jan-03-11 09:41 PM |
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No, Nader is not responsible for Gore's moronic legal strategy. |
JDPriestly |
Jan-04-11 11:28 AM |
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So instead of discussing the points you lower yourself to name calling. I am not surprised. |
rhett o rick |
Jan-03-11 11:34 PM |
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For the BRAZILLIONTH TIME: Bush was appointed President by the U.S. Supreme Court. |
Swamp Rat |
Jan-03-11 11:37 PM |
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Nader will always provide an excuse for those seeking one. |
mmonk |
Jan-05-11 08:09 AM |
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What an ignorant post. |
avaistheone1 |
Jan-04-11 03:14 AM |
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No those 3,000,000 + who voted for him would have voted for Booshe.... |
DainBramaged |
Jan-04-11 05:36 AM |
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3 million people voted for nader because |
Javaman |
Jan-04-11 08:09 AM |
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"No one could predict that Gore would turn out to be a true lefty. " |
PassingFair |
Jan-04-11 07:37 PM |
#276 |
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Exactly. |
Javaman |
Jan-05-11 11:00 AM |
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obviously you prefer obama farts. nt |
tomp |
Jan-04-11 05:43 AM |
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How fucking stupid. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-04-11 06:11 AM |
#90 |
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Agree with you on Nader being an a**hat. |
travelingtypist |
Jan-04-11 07:26 AM |
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The only mistake Nader made was not pushing harder on instant runoff voting... |
cascadiance |
Jan-04-11 07:34 AM |
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Funny how our progressive leaders have such a narrow path to walk |
molly77 |
Jan-04-11 08:24 AM |
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Never said he wasn't credible. Just that he didn't use the right strategy... |
cascadiance |
Jan-04-11 08:43 AM |
#126 |
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We still need IRV voting -- and obvious why both parties fight it -- |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:45 AM |
#306 |
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The Supreme Court put bush in office, not Nadar |
molly77 |
Jan-04-11 08:21 AM |
#119 |
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I agree with you completely, but that does not mean he is wrong here |
WatchWhatISay |
Jan-04-11 11:16 AM |
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People who blame Nader for Bush are assh*les |
Lorien |
Jan-04-11 11:16 AM |
#145 |
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Wow, what a well thought of and logical argument. You totally conviced me. |
liberation |
Jan-04-11 11:50 AM |
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In case you have not figured it out yet. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-05-11 08:39 PM |
#327 |
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Gore won the 2000 election. |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-04-11 01:10 PM |
#163 |
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Once again. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-05-11 08:45 PM |
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I would rather have Nader then Obama, and I'm not a Nader fanboy. |
Exultant Democracy |
Jan-04-11 05:20 PM |
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+1000% -- |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:46 AM |
#307 |
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I would rather have Obama. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-05-11 08:53 PM |
#329 |
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The problem is |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-03-11 08:15 PM |
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I'm ready, how bout you? |
PhillySane |
Jan-03-11 09:34 PM |
#28 |
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I've been a member |
Enthusiast |
Jan-04-11 06:14 AM |
#91 |
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Philly Sane |
molly77 |
Jan-04-11 08:32 AM |
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Count me in. nt |
ladjf |
Jan-04-11 11:53 AM |
#156 |
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I'd vote for a Dean party |
marions ghost |
Jan-04-11 01:13 PM |
#164 |
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The psychology of rape victims. |
MedicalAdmin |
Jan-04-11 06:31 AM |
#97 |
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Although I agree in principle with the essential focus of this argument, I resent and abhor |
RandomKoolzip |
Jan-04-11 01:50 PM |
#169 |
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Just ask some foreclosure victims how they feel. |
eilen |
Jan-04-11 04:04 PM |
#190 |
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Or ask those who have lost jobs that they CARED about and did GOOD work in for |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 04:31 PM |
#200 |
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I've never been raped by a boss, |
MedicalAdmin |
Jan-04-11 06:02 PM |
#250 |
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I was raised to live the nobility of work, not just to get a paycheck. It's an obsolete notion, |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 06:15 PM |
#251 |
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It used to be an avocation. Now it's a J. O. B. |
MedicalAdmin |
Jan-05-11 05:43 AM |
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That was my point (or it would have been if I had explained it better) |
MedicalAdmin |
Jan-04-11 06:00 PM |
#248 |
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I disagree |
galloglas |
Jan-04-11 04:35 PM |
#202 |
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To be clear. |
MedicalAdmin |
Jan-04-11 05:56 PM |
#245 |
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My son is in the national socialist party |
eilen |
Jan-04-11 04:00 PM |
#188 |
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There is another solution |
jeff47 |
Jan-04-11 05:02 PM |
#215 |
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Jan-03-11 08:16 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-03-11 08:18 PM |
#14 |
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"There is no major difference between a McCain administration, a Bush and an Obama administration. " |
ProSense |
Jan-03-11 08:19 PM |
#15 |
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Two realms |
tavalon |
Jan-04-11 03:10 AM |
#68 |
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Two realms |
tavalon |
Jan-04-11 03:12 AM |
#69 |
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That's Right! |
BobbyBoring |
Jan-04-11 04:40 PM |
#204 |
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People have to feel wanted I guess. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-05-11 08:59 PM |
#330 |
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Nowhere else to go? As long as we buy that crap we'll be stuck with 2 parties. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-03-11 08:20 PM |
#16 |
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Why do you think that we won't be stuck with two parties, even if you don't "buy that crap?" |
BzaDem |
Jan-03-11 11:31 PM |
#32 |
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Despite the seeming stranglehold the (sort of) 2 party system has, things change. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-03-11 11:51 PM |
#38 |
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Why do you think that the people "fed up enough" to start a third party represent a non-negligable |
BzaDem |
Jan-03-11 11:53 PM |
#39 |
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Gosh I thought it was 523% |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-03-11 11:58 PM |
#43 |
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Exactly. That is precisely the reason they aren't going to start a new party. |
BzaDem |
Jan-04-11 12:10 AM |
#47 |
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the left supports obama. right. nt |
tomp |
Jan-04-11 05:46 AM |
#82 |
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Let's guess what those who are actually in the trenches for Social & Economic Justice would say abou |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 04:11 PM |
#193 |
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frankly, i'm not sure what your perspective is. |
tomp |
Jan-04-11 05:51 PM |
#239 |
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I think all of this revenge on Obama stuff is not coming from the people who do the actual work that |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 06:34 PM |
#260 |
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that's what i thought. lame ass projection of who you think... |
tomp |
Jan-05-11 05:52 AM |
#313 |
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Hogwash. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-05-11 09:34 PM |
#337 |
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hogwash yourself. |
tomp |
Jan-06-11 05:22 AM |
#344 |
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I have found the left. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-05-11 09:24 PM |
#334 |
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The poster is saying. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-05-11 09:18 PM |
#333 |
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I have always distanced myself from the extreme left and the extreme right. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-05-11 09:15 PM |
#332 |
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What is the point if all they get is the same result? |
eilen |
Jan-04-11 04:10 PM |
#192 |
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Why does it have to be a third party? |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-04-11 01:21 PM |
#166 |
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The threats to Social Security & Medicare are REAL & highly probable, if Obama is replaced by a |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 06:42 PM |
#263 |
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Your attempt to twist what I said is not unfamiliar to me |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-04-11 07:28 PM |
#274 |
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It is an almost hopeless argument you're making. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-05-11 09:45 PM |
#340 |
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Really? |
bluestate10 |
Jan-05-11 09:40 PM |
#338 |
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When one is in an echo chamber and hears nothing but soothing |
bluestate10 |
Jan-05-11 09:05 PM |
#331 |
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Good observation. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-04-11 06:16 AM |
#92 |
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You seem to be stuck on the fact |
PhillySane |
Jan-04-11 12:00 AM |
#44 |
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It can change if the Constitution changes |
BzaDem |
Jan-04-11 12:11 AM |
#48 |
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Okay |
PhillySane |
Jan-04-11 12:17 AM |
#50 |
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I would love it if the Constitution allowed people to vote for third parties without their votes |
BzaDem |
Jan-04-11 12:18 AM |
#52 |
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Then lets start a party |
PhillySane |
Jan-04-11 12:22 AM |
#54 |
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Yeah! Don't try it because it won't work! |
Enthusiast |
Jan-04-11 06:19 AM |
#94 |
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It is very possible to have 4 parties |
eilen |
Jan-04-11 04:13 PM |
#195 |
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Excellent. |
Le Taz Hot |
Jan-04-11 03:23 AM |
#72 |
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That will only change when the left starts taking the processes of running for office |
eridani |
Jan-04-11 04:30 AM |
#76 |
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I don't buy that crap any longer, and I sure as hell won't vote for Obama |
Lorien |
Jan-04-11 11:22 AM |
#147 |
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So, you are in favor of Privatization of Social Security & the destruction of Medicare. nt |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 03:43 PM |
#186 |
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I think there's penty of places to go, the fight is about HOW to get there & who we hurt along the |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 03:41 PM |
#184 |
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Bye n/t |
Still a Democrat |
Jan-04-11 05:14 PM |
#221 |
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You're leaving? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-04-11 05:49 PM |
#238 |
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Sounded like you were leaving the party n/t |
Still a Democrat |
Jan-04-11 05:53 PM |
#242 |
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Nope. I'm Still a Democrat. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-04-11 07:15 PM |
#271 |
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Exactly ... and this is a quesiton which should be getting addressed here every day .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:28 AM |
#296 |
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Do you want to be asleep and happy or do you want to be awake and suffer....and rebel... |
kgnu_fan |
Jan-03-11 08:21 PM |
#17 |
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those are not the only options. |
cali |
Jan-04-11 02:50 AM |
#64 |
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True enough, I have nowhere to go |
Raine |
Jan-03-11 08:27 PM |
#19 |
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and nowhere is where the dems appear to be going with a democratic agenda. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-11 11:32 PM |
#33 |
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I won't stay home - there will be some local elections to vote in |
dflprincess |
Jan-04-11 09:34 PM |
#291 |
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You have nowhere to go. You have nowhere to go. |
derby378 |
Jan-03-11 08:30 PM |
#20 |
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There's always somewhere else to go and the left showed us that in 2000. |
craigmatic |
Jan-03-11 08:35 PM |
#21 |
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the left did NOT vote for Nader. nt |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jan-04-11 12:25 AM |
#55 |
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That is ridiculous. |
former9thward |
Jan-04-11 05:59 AM |
#85 |
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yes, the tiny percentage of votes he got were almost certainly largely from the left. |
cali |
Jan-04-11 06:16 AM |
#93 |
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The far right and the far left have more in common than their |
molly77 |
Jan-04-11 08:37 AM |
#124 |
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You're so right |
BobbyBoring |
Jan-04-11 04:50 PM |
#207 |
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Nobody sees that stuff, because they're too busy acting out against TPB, rather than figuring out |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 05:35 PM |
#233 |
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T baggers are astroturf...financed by Koch Bros/oil industry ... why wouldn't they be misguided? |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:34 AM |
#299 |
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I am a moderate. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-05-11 09:52 PM |
#341 |
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good point! |
marions ghost |
Jan-04-11 01:17 PM |
#165 |
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But the Nader voters would have ONLY voted for Nader. . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:31 AM |
#298 |
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True ... in fact, 300,000 "Democrats" in Florida voted for W ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:30 AM |
#297 |
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As long as we think we have nowhere to go we shall go nowhere. |
Better Believe It |
Jan-03-11 08:41 PM |
#23 |
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You know, there have been two elections where George W. Bush garnered |
zbdent |
Jan-03-11 09:06 PM |
#24 |
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Okay so they are right - which means we need to work on the grass |
jwirr |
Jan-03-11 09:27 PM |
#26 |
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In many cases, you'll have to fight the local/state/national |
Le Taz Hot |
Jan-04-11 03:31 AM |
#73 |
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Yes, they've worked against progressive candidates |
newspeak |
Jan-04-11 12:02 PM |
#159 |
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Rahm Emmanuel has been soliciting Blue Dogs ... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:38 AM |
#300 |
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I suppose you are right. I happen to live in a very progressive area |
jwirr |
Jan-04-11 12:22 PM |
#160 |
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DC doesn't care how "angry" you are ... they care about making sure you don't have power to do |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:38 AM |
#301 |
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Sadly, this seems to be the case (nt) |
whatchamacallit |
Jan-03-11 09:27 PM |
#27 |
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this is the problem with one-dimensional politics |
unblock |
Jan-03-11 11:26 PM |
#30 |
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Time to open up the 2nd axis of politics |
dreamnightwind |
Jan-04-11 07:00 AM |
#99 |
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Remember, Nader was for Obama ... so was Michael Moore ... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:40 AM |
#302 |
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Given that he said there would be little to no difference between Bush and Gore, I'm not going to |
BzaDem |
Jan-03-11 11:29 PM |
#31 |
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Why dont you address the issues he spoke of? Why has Obama continued to support the Bush policies |
rhett o rick |
Jan-03-11 11:37 PM |
#36 |
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There's no hope for the Democratic Party right now. |
PhillySane |
Jan-03-11 11:45 PM |
#37 |
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Perhaps the problem for you is that 91% of liberal Democrats approve of Obama? |
BzaDem |
Jan-03-11 11:54 PM |
#42 |
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Well, I approve of Obama too |
PhillySane |
Jan-04-11 12:14 AM |
#49 |
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Until the Constitution changes, that is your option. n/t |
BzaDem |
Jan-04-11 12:17 AM |
#51 |
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So plez explain how you differ on the issues of the day with the left that you |
rhett o rick |
Jan-04-11 09:05 AM |
#130 |
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First we have to fight those in the Democratic party that support Republlican principles. Like Rahm |
rhett o rick |
Jan-04-11 09:04 AM |
#129 |
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Really? |
Recursion |
Jan-04-11 03:38 PM |
#182 |
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What policies has Rahm pushed to indicate he isnt a corporate shill? I could give a list of |
rhett o rick |
Jan-04-11 05:13 PM |
#220 |
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No, I'm serious. I know DUers hate Rahm but I've never seen a substantive policy reason |
Recursion |
Jan-04-11 05:35 PM |
#234 |
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He has spit in our faces over and over. You give me an example where he has |
rhett o rick |
Jan-04-11 08:00 PM |
#281 |
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Yes, I know activists feel insulted |
Recursion |
Jan-04-11 09:07 PM |
#288 |
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what has he done to help the middle class? nm |
rhett o rick |
Jan-04-11 10:21 PM |
#292 |
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Interesting that instead of addressing issues as the poster did you attack. Very interesting. nm |
rhett o rick |
Jan-04-11 08:57 AM |
#127 |
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This goes on all the time here these days |
PhillySane |
Jan-04-11 09:45 AM |
#133 |
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I ask them over and over to explain where they stand on issues and they refuse to answer. Many are |
rhett o rick |
Jan-04-11 10:33 AM |
#141 |
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Looks more like the problem is with whatever source you're using for that myth -- |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:41 AM |
#304 |
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Did Bush push for health care reform? Did Bush want to repeal |
pnwmom |
Jan-04-11 03:08 PM |
#171 |
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Has Obama undone any of the Bush policies? Tax breaks for the wealthy and Patriot Act. How about |
rhett o rick |
Jan-04-11 05:20 PM |
#227 |
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I think we're pretty much in agreement that it was a condition of his employment. Some of us are |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 04:51 PM |
#208 |
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Exactly. +1000000000000 |
Zoeisright |
Jan-03-11 11:54 PM |
#41 |
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Funny, I have the same reaction to all of your posts. nt |
Lorien |
Jan-04-11 11:17 AM |
#146 |
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I agree, that position is unreasonable per se |
treestar |
Jan-04-11 03:42 PM |
#185 |
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As though the differences aren't so faded as to be almost indisguishable... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:40 AM |
#303 |
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Nope, sorry, don't buy it. Ask the gay soldier who will be able to serve openly, the |
Zoeisright |
Jan-03-11 11:54 PM |
#40 |
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those are social issues,try the economic/foreign policy direction of both parties |
democracy1st |
Jan-04-11 02:13 AM |
#63 |
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Major economic and taxation issues don't seem to count much to you. |
leveymg |
Jan-04-11 10:28 AM |
#140 |
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What percentage of soldiers do you think are gay? |
JDPriestly |
Jan-04-11 11:30 AM |
#151 |
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I agree that the left has nowhere to go in 2012. |
robcon |
Jan-04-11 12:01 AM |
#45 |
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are you equating "left" with "independents"? nt |
tomp |
Jan-04-11 05:49 AM |
#83 |
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Not at all. They have little to do with each other. |
robcon |
Jan-04-11 08:28 PM |
#285 |
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so independents as you define it are unaffiliated and in the center... |
tomp |
Jan-05-11 05:42 AM |
#310 |
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This is not a new idea. |
robcon |
Jan-05-11 09:55 AM |
#320 |
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yes, i've actually heard this, as has anyone paying attention. |
tomp |
Jan-05-11 09:33 PM |
#335 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jan-04-11 12:09 AM |
#46 |
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The most accurate part of the article is near the conclusion: |
struggle4progress |
Jan-04-11 12:20 AM |
#53 |
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Which was always Nader's problem |
PhillySane |
Jan-04-11 12:29 AM |
#56 |
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Huh? |
liberation |
Jan-04-11 11:54 AM |
#157 |
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I actually admire Ralph |
PhillySane |
Jan-04-11 04:12 PM |
#194 |
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excellent analysis. thanks. |
cali |
Jan-04-11 03:05 AM |
#67 |
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i see, anti-war is not good enough, we have to be pro-peace, ..... |
tomp |
Jan-04-11 05:55 AM |
#84 |
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Winning requires agenda, accurate analysis, and organization |
struggle4progress |
Jan-04-11 01:34 PM |
#167 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-04-11 05:45 PM |
#237 |
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One of the things that continues to annoy me is that the liberal organizations all |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:44 AM |
#305 |
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100% spot on! |
democracy1st |
Jan-04-11 12:59 AM |
#58 |
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The Left DOES have somewhere to go. |
MattSh |
Jan-04-11 01:50 AM |
#59 |
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"The Left" has power. |
democrank |
Jan-04-11 01:54 AM |
#60 |
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The truth. |
hulka38 |
Jan-04-11 01:55 AM |
#61 |
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oh fucking please. |
cali |
Jan-04-11 02:59 AM |
#66 |
| -
k&r |
avaistheone1 |
Jan-04-11 03:15 AM |
#71 |
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K&R |
CrawlingChaos |
Jan-04-11 04:05 AM |
#74 |
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No difference? That's crap |
eridani |
Jan-04-11 04:21 AM |
#75 |
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You were proved right |
BobbyBoring |
Jan-04-11 04:57 PM |
#212 |
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K&R |
Enthusiast |
Jan-04-11 05:15 AM |
#77 |
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Whiny "I'm so important - look at me!" bollocks from a pair of egomaniacs |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jan-04-11 05:35 AM |
#78 |
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oh c'mon. does this mean you don't believe that |
cali |
Jan-04-11 05:42 AM |
#80 |
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commentariat |
creon |
Jan-04-11 07:48 AM |
#108 |
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oh for fuck's sake. Gross does interview and a large percentage |
cali |
Jan-04-11 07:51 AM |
#109 |
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Excellent article. I like this observation: |
Enthusiast |
Jan-04-11 06:00 AM |
#86 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-04-11 06:00 AM |
#87 |
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well, you won't be vocally supporting a third party candidate here at DU |
cali |
Jan-04-11 06:10 AM |
#89 |
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Don't just complain, ORGANIZE! n.t |
groovedaddy |
Jan-04-11 07:21 AM |
#100 |
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yep, nt |
maryf |
Jan-04-11 06:22 PM |
#255 |
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The GOP or third party are not viable options |
VeryConfused |
Jan-04-11 07:36 AM |
#104 |
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Of course not, "...That suicide is painless It brings on many changes |
rhett o rick |
Jan-04-11 09:10 AM |
#131 |
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what sort of options are there? |
VeryConfused |
Jan-05-11 08:32 AM |
#319 |
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I meant to unrec' this, but accidently recommended it. |
Axrendale |
Jan-04-11 07:41 AM |
#105 |
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I have nowhere to go |
creon |
Jan-04-11 07:42 AM |
#106 |
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It is true the Left is all but ignored in the US. |
martymar64 |
Jan-04-11 07:42 AM |
#107 |
| -
ridiculous. why don't you fucking work on good local governance? |
cali |
Jan-04-11 07:52 AM |
#110 |
| -
Maybe in Vermont. |
progressoid |
Jan-04-11 08:00 AM |
#112 |
| -
Exactly. The Left has been hounded and persecuted since forever in this country |
martymar64 |
Jan-05-11 08:12 AM |
#318 |
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keeping it classy as always I see |
martymar64 |
Jan-05-11 08:05 AM |
#316 |
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uh . . . no. This is about America. You're replicating the error, and in some cases crime, of TPB |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 07:11 PM |
#270 |
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OBAMA KNOWS |
Jamel |
Jan-04-11 07:57 AM |
#111 |
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+1000 +++ n/t |
RKP5637 |
Jan-04-11 10:50 AM |
#142 |
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Thank you. I would like, just once, for some of these folks to walk through the steps Obama SHOULD |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 03:27 PM |
#174 |
| -
Here |
Doctor_J |
Jan-04-11 08:31 PM |
#287 |
| -
Why Did I think he was going to change things?? |
BobbyBoring |
Jan-04-11 05:04 PM |
#216 |
| -
For all the lip service against Democrats....who would really want to lead the party... |
Historic NY |
Jan-04-11 08:04 AM |
#113 |
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+1 & You know what? For all the damning of "compromise", there sure as heck is one big compromise in |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 04:02 PM |
#189 |
| -
He certainly nails the election season bullying. |
LWolf |
Jan-04-11 08:08 AM |
#115 |
| -
The message sent to discourage the left will have consequences |
KoKo |
Jan-04-11 09:03 AM |
#128 |
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The title of the article is misleading. Chris Hedges didn't say that, Nader did. |
FormerDittoHead |
Jan-04-11 08:10 AM |
#117 |
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I'M NOT FAKING. n/t |
leeroysphitz |
Jan-04-11 08:22 AM |
#120 |
| -
Fuck Ralph Nader...nt |
SidDithers |
Jan-04-11 09:11 AM |
#132 |
| -
so true - we have no place to go, which includes |
placton |
Jan-04-11 09:49 AM |
#134 |
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Don't worry, Nader will unselfishly offer himself as the "solution" to the problems he denounces. |
MilesColtrane |
Jan-04-11 03:28 PM |
#175 |
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Nader? Automatic unrecc. Obama=Bush=McCain? B.S. |
johnaries |
Jan-04-11 09:54 AM |
#135 |
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I think it is long past time -- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jan-04-11 10:06 AM |
# |
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A known enemy is safer than an enemy in disguise. nt |
obxhead |
Jan-04-11 10:06 AM |
#136 |
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There is the other side of this slice of bread. |
Marnie |
Jan-04-11 10:09 AM |
#137 |
| -
Good post |
dreamnightwind |
Jan-04-11 06:42 PM |
#262 |
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Bleak |
FlyByNight |
Jan-04-11 10:18 AM |
#138 |
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We're just "f-cking retards" who can be ignored when we're not getting kicked in the face. |
leveymg |
Jan-04-11 10:23 AM |
#139 |
| -
I've got someplace to go- Canada |
Fiendish Thingy |
Jan-04-11 11:29 AM |
#150 |
| -
We have somewhere to go.....FORWARD!!! nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Jan-04-11 11:37 AM |
#152 |
| -
To Paraphase Obama |
JJW |
Jan-04-11 11:56 AM |
#158 |
| -
Ouch. |
blackspade |
Jan-04-11 03:01 PM |
#170 |
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Okay, yes, true, no disputing facts, yada, yada, yada,BUT tell me one god damned thing will you all? |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 03:13 PM |
#172 |
| -
I am not convinced that isn't Obama's plan |
eilen |
Jan-04-11 04:32 PM |
#201 |
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That's why ALL of it must be more about US than them at this point. Even if that is Obama's plan, |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 05:24 PM |
#228 |
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"But because they (the left) do not make any demands, they are complicit with corporate power." |
MilesColtrane |
Jan-04-11 03:17 PM |
#173 |
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Nader's talking about Democratic Party and the leaders of Dem Party ... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-11 12:49 AM |
#308 |
| -
The Left should sprint to the Barricades !! |
galloglas |
Jan-04-11 03:30 PM |
#176 |
| -
LOL. Madness |
Uzybone |
Jan-04-11 03:33 PM |
#178 |
| -
Revenge on Obama, another fucking shiny object, while the REAL deal goes down in the back room. nt |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 03:34 PM |
#179 |
| -
Q. Wouldn't REAL revenge against the system consist of taking Soc Sec OUT of Obama's hands NOW? |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 03:38 PM |
#181 |
| -
The public option or even single payer could come back |
treestar |
Jan-04-11 03:41 PM |
#183 |
| -
Perhaps people don't understand that IS a real possibility AND so is a REAL foundation for a 3rd Par |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 03:46 PM |
#187 |
| -
You're correct -- destroying Obama would only empower the right. |
pnwmom |
Jan-04-11 04:07 PM |
#191 |
| -
That's one of the biggest things that gets me about this: THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LEFT HERE, |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 04:18 PM |
#196 |
| -
The only person responsible for Obama is Obama. |
Xicano |
Jan-04-11 04:41 PM |
#205 |
| -
If Obama isn't reelected, |
pnwmom |
Jan-04-11 04:55 PM |
#211 |
| -
And if that happens, who's fault is it? Like I said Obama is responsible for Obama |
Xicano |
Jan-04-11 05:28 PM |
#230 |
| -
So, you also are for warehousing the elderly until they are out of your way. You need to respond to |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 05:09 PM |
#218 |
| -
No, but if you continue to cast a vote for Wall Street representatives you are voting for... |
Xicano |
Jan-04-11 05:56 PM |
#246 |
| -
I think you are oversimplifying the transition. It's not going to happen all at once. |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 07:05 PM |
#269 |
| -
And I think you're just sweeping dirt under the rug and hoping it'll go away by itself. |
Xicano |
Jan-04-11 08:22 PM |
#283 |
| -
Electing Obama |
eilen |
Jan-04-11 07:50 PM |
#279 |
| -
That's a silly analogy |
treestar |
Jan-04-11 05:27 PM |
#229 |
| -
After a year of teabaggers screaming disruptions at all meetings and investigations up |
lunatica |
Jan-04-11 04:27 PM |
#198 |
| -
Hedges best yet |
Doctor_J |
Jan-04-11 04:30 PM |
#199 |
| -
They are afraid of the RW because they can get you FIRED. Tried to get some friends to go |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 04:38 PM |
#203 |
| -
I worry about going to liberal type protests |
ihaveaquestion |
Jan-04-11 05:39 PM |
#235 |
| -
I have done years worth of public anti-War stuff here. You do get yelled at. : -((( |
patrice |
Jan-04-11 06:43 PM |
#264 |
| -
This stuff would grow good tomatos |
quaker bill |
Jan-04-11 04:49 PM |
#206 |
| -
I feel sorry for Obama. |
bobburgster |
Jan-04-11 04:54 PM |
#209 |
| -
If you try to live in the middle of the road, |
Doctor_J |
Jan-04-11 05:14 PM |
#223 |
| -
words to live by |
Scruffy1 |
Jan-04-11 06:33 PM |
#259 |
| -
Maybe Ralph will run in 2012 and get Palin elected? |
Still a Democrat |
Jan-04-11 05:13 PM |
#219 |
| -
Nader is not responsible for Shrubby |
ihaveaquestion |
Jan-04-11 05:29 PM |
#231 |
| -
Nader Pegs it... |
humbled_opinion |
Jan-04-11 05:14 PM |
#222 |
| -
For those of us involved with Dean's Activism in our State Parties..and then saw us Crash & Burn.. |
KoKo |
Jan-04-11 06:26 PM |
#257 |
| -
That is true.... |
humbled_opinion |
Jan-04-11 06:55 PM |
#266 |
| -
I Googled "Tim Kaine's Accomplishments as DNC Chair" and got nothing...Do it yourself... |
KoKo |
Jan-04-11 07:25 PM |
#273 |
| -
That is so true |
humbled_opinion |
Jan-05-11 09:34 PM |
#336 |
| -
This just NAILS IT!! Thank you for posting it, Xicano. nt |
bertman |
Jan-04-11 05:30 PM |
#232 |
| -
Thanks bertman. |
Xicano |
Jan-04-11 05:59 PM |
#247 |
| -
I agree |
pmorlan1 |
Jan-04-11 05:39 PM |
#236 |
| -
Is he joking? Of course we can go elsewhere. There aren't just two parties. |
krabigirl |
Jan-04-11 05:54 PM |
#243 |
| -
I suppose everyone is entitled to a good rant now and then |
bhikkhu |
Jan-04-11 06:21 PM |
#254 |
| -
Hedges overstates his case though ... |
Babel_17 |
Jan-04-11 06:30 PM |
#258 |
| -
It was a very special moment in time |
dreamnightwind |
Jan-04-11 07:05 PM |
#268 |
| -
Amen |
Doctor_J |
Jan-04-11 08:15 PM |
#282 |
| -
Sadly this seems true |
panzerfaust |
Jan-04-11 06:38 PM |
#261 |
| -
k & r n/t |
ejbr |
Jan-04-11 07:05 PM |
#267 |
| -
I disagree with the first paragraph of the article |
Martin Eden |
Jan-04-11 07:51 PM |
#280 |
| -
kick....n/t |
unkachuck |
Jan-04-11 09:07 PM |
#289 |
| -
Clinton got more corporatist agenda accomplished that George 1st could have |
upi402 |
Jan-05-11 05:52 AM |
#312 |
| -
Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours |
meow mix |
Jan-05-11 10:00 AM |
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