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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 05:36 AM
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79. No those 3,000,000 + who voted for him would have voted for Booshe....
keep up your denial it's healthy.....
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  -Chris Hedges: "The Left Has Nowhere to Go" Xicano  Jan-03-11 07:41 PM   #0 
  - "Obama, who professes to support core liberal values while carrying out policies that mock these  grahamhgreen   Jan-03-11 07:44 PM   #1 
  - I don't think there's any "may" about it.  democrat2thecore   Jan-04-11 12:59 AM   #57 
  - Now that's an interesting and accurate observation. n/t  crim son   Jan-04-11 08:38 AM   #125 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-04-11 01:05 PM   #162 
  - I think a primary challenge is critical  grahamhgreen   Jan-04-11 07:19 PM   #272 
  - So you are on the side of the true republican? What is the true  Maraya1969   Jan-04-11 07:45 PM   #277 
  - And his governing by appointee shows us who he really is.  truedelphi   Jan-04-11 01:44 PM   #168 
  - You're not looking at it right  JamesJ   Jan-04-11 06:25 PM   #256 
  - USA number one! ...in cancer.  L0oniX   Jan-04-11 06:48 PM   #265 
  - A hearty welcome to DU, JamesJ. n/t  truedelphi   Jan-06-11 02:49 AM   #342 
  - Terrific post .... keep tellin' it -- Monsanto's FDA ... all of government is corrupted ....  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:22 AM   #293 
  - Perhaps he thinks it would be best for all, including "the Left" whatever that is, for the Left to  patrice   Jan-04-11 06:02 PM   #249 
  - "The angriest Obama becomes is when he's talking about the left." Yep, that about sums it up  earth mom   Jan-04-11 08:30 PM   #286 
  - It gives me the feeling that ideologically, Obama isn't a Democrat. nt  ladjf   Jan-04-11 11:51 AM   #155 
  - Not just ideologically right wing but a practicing right wing pol  lark   Jan-04-11 04:57 PM   #213 
  - I have no argument with your observations. It's a very sad and  ladjf   Jan-04-11 05:53 PM   #240 
  - If you define "Democrat" as "Communist", this is true  ConservativeDemocrat   Jan-04-11 05:19 PM   #225 
     - We define Democrat as FDR did. Taxing the rich. Medicare for all. Ending the wars.  grahamhgreen   Jan-04-11 07:30 PM   #275 
        - Absolutely. Traditional Democratic ideas...  democrat2thecore   Jan-04-11 08:24 PM   #284 
        - Damn right! Even Eisenhower was MORE of a Democrat than Obama has been!  cascadiance   Jan-05-11 07:14 AM   #315 
        - Exactly. nt  ladjf   Jan-05-11 02:55 PM   #324 
  - The undeniable fact is Gore would have been inaugurated had Nader not ran n/t  Still a Democrat   Jan-04-11 05:16 PM   #224 
     - That's a fact. It is also true the the S.C. rigged it later and the  ladjf   Jan-04-11 05:55 PM   #244 
     - Some believe Gore won the election,,,, but because the supreme  midnight   Jan-04-11 06:16 PM   #252 
     - Not true ... this was a right wing steal from start to finish ... and Gore actually won ...  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:25 AM   #295 
        - None of that would have mattered if Nader hadn't ran.  Still a Democrat   Jan-05-11 07:13 AM   #314 
           - You have no evidence of that ... nor any proof that the 537 votes that W "won" with in Florida ....  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 07:52 PM   #325 
  - We'll see where we are about 6 years from now, but my hunch is a lot of  RKP5637   Jan-03-11 07:46 PM   #2 
  - If the real winners in six years time will be corporate America and the paradigm continues shifting  stillwaiting   Jan-04-11 06:32 AM   #98 
  - Might as well eat popcorn and crash through multiple movie sets then.  RandomThoughts   Jan-03-11 07:46 PM   #3 
  - Go Issa! I suddenly became a fan of Darrell Issa.  The Backlash Cometh   Jan-03-11 07:48 PM   #4 
  - Darrell Issa's job is to distract  Enthusiast   Jan-04-11 06:06 AM   #88 
  - Let's face it, we have a clinton administration  molly77   Jan-04-11 08:18 AM   #118 
  - "President Clinton is going to answer your questions while I go to a party..."  LastLiberal in PalmSprings   Jan-04-11 06:19 PM   #253 
  - Clinton did some good for working folks  lark   Jan-04-11 05:00 PM   #214 
     - Yeah, NAFTA was really a boon for working people  dflprincess   Jan-04-11 09:31 PM   #290 
  - Issa's the drunken heckler in the balcony. n/t  Plucketeer   Jan-04-11 11:27 AM   #148 
  - Stunning article,  Autumn   Jan-03-11 07:50 PM   #5 
  - Not really true.  Somawas   Jan-04-11 07:28 AM   #102 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-04-11 11:12 AM   #143 
  - Huh?  liberation   Jan-04-11 11:48 AM   #153 
  - You can't vote green and be on this forum.  Maraya1969   Jan-04-11 07:47 PM   #278 
     - I think I can.  Somawas   Jan-05-11 12:25 PM   #323 
  - not left or right.  whattheidonot   Jan-04-11 12:56 PM   #161 
     - Sorry, it is "right" all the way  lark   Jan-04-11 05:04 PM   #217 
  - This has been the DNC paradigm for 14 of the last 18 years  MannyGoldstein   Jan-03-11 07:53 PM   #6 
  - yup.  kgnu_fan   Jan-03-11 08:26 PM   #18 
  - Yup!  Sherman A1   Jan-04-11 02:55 AM   #65 
  - Same here.  Joe Bacon   Jan-04-11 06:31 AM   #96 
  - Really?  Recursion   Jan-04-11 03:36 PM   #180 
  - Well, these guys make money saying what I've been saying for some time...  SteveM   Jan-03-11 07:54 PM   #7 
  - Interesting post.  hulka38   Jan-04-11 02:02 AM   #62 
  - Me too. You have the bones of a great op  MedicalAdmin   Jan-04-11 06:24 AM   #95 
  - I agree with the others above, please write an essay based upon these thoughts.  myrna minx   Jan-04-11 08:06 AM   #114 
  - Steve M  molly77   Jan-04-11 08:31 AM   #122 
  - Me too. This is indeed something that should be expanded upon N/T  AikidoSoul   Jan-04-11 04:23 PM   #197 
  - +1  leftstreet   Jan-05-11 12:55 AM   #309 
  - Exactly.  DeSwiss   Jan-03-11 07:55 PM   #8 
  - Quit reminding us Chris.  mmonk   Jan-03-11 07:55 PM   #9 
  - Nader is an a******.  bluestate10   Jan-03-11 08:09 PM   #10 
  - That was debunked long ago, next...  mrdmk   Jan-03-11 08:14 PM   #11 
  - No. It was not.  Lord Magus   Jan-05-11 12:23 AM   #294 
  - If a sumo wrestler farting in your face turns you on, go for it!  Better Believe It   Jan-03-11 08:37 PM   #22 
  - Nader did not elect Bush in 2000.  intheflow   Jan-03-11 09:20 PM   #25 
  - Gore went belly up?  xxqqqzme   Jan-04-11 03:32 PM   #177 
  - Yes, he did.  Senator   Jan-04-11 04:55 PM   #210 
  - He could have refused to concede.  intheflow   Jan-04-11 05:53 PM   #241 
  - The claim that Gore gave up is part of the allusion that  bluestate10   Jan-05-11 08:21 PM   #326 
     - No, it's a simple fact.  Senator   Jan-06-11 04:34 AM   #343 
  - Nader was one of several major factors that let it be stolen  krispos42   Jan-05-11 09:42 PM   #339 
  - You've been inhaling too many sumo farts.  girl gone mad   Jan-03-11 09:41 PM   #29 
  - No, Nader is not responsible for Gore's moronic legal strategy.  JDPriestly   Jan-04-11 11:28 AM   #149 
  - So instead of discussing the points you lower yourself to name calling. I am not surprised.  rhett o rick   Jan-03-11 11:34 PM   #34 
  - For the BRAZILLIONTH TIME: Bush was appointed President by the U.S. Supreme Court.  Swamp Rat   Jan-03-11 11:37 PM   #35 
  - Nader will always provide an excuse for those seeking one.  mmonk   Jan-05-11 08:09 AM   #317 
  - What an ignorant post.  avaistheone1   Jan-04-11 03:14 AM   #70 
  - No those 3,000,000 + who voted for him would have voted for Booshe....  DainBramaged   Jan-04-11 05:36 AM   #79 
     - 3 million people voted for nader because  Javaman   Jan-04-11 08:09 AM   #116 
        - "No one could predict that Gore would turn out to be a true lefty. "  PassingFair   Jan-04-11 07:37 PM   #276 
           - Exactly.  Javaman   Jan-05-11 11:00 AM   #322 
  - obviously you prefer obama farts. nt  tomp   Jan-04-11 05:43 AM   #81 
  - How fucking stupid.  Enthusiast   Jan-04-11 06:11 AM   #90 
  - Agree with you on Nader being an a**hat.  travelingtypist   Jan-04-11 07:26 AM   #101 
  - The only mistake Nader made was not pushing harder on instant runoff voting...  cascadiance   Jan-04-11 07:34 AM   #103 
  - Funny how our progressive leaders have such a narrow path to walk  molly77   Jan-04-11 08:24 AM   #121 
  - Never said he wasn't credible. Just that he didn't use the right strategy...  cascadiance   Jan-04-11 08:43 AM   #126 
  - We still need IRV voting -- and obvious why both parties fight it --  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:45 AM   #306 
  - The Supreme Court put bush in office, not Nadar  molly77   Jan-04-11 08:21 AM   #119 
  - I agree with you completely, but that does not mean he is wrong here  WatchWhatISay   Jan-04-11 11:16 AM   #144 
  - People who blame Nader for Bush are assh*les  Lorien   Jan-04-11 11:16 AM   #145 
  - Wow, what a well thought of and logical argument. You totally conviced me.  liberation   Jan-04-11 11:50 AM   #154 
  - In case you have not figured it out yet.  bluestate10   Jan-05-11 08:39 PM   #327 
  - Gore won the 2000 election.  sabrina 1   Jan-04-11 01:10 PM   #163 
  - Once again.  bluestate10   Jan-05-11 08:45 PM   #328 
  - I would rather have Nader then Obama, and I'm not a Nader fanboy.  Exultant Democracy   Jan-04-11 05:20 PM   #226 
     - +1000% --  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:46 AM   #307 
     - I would rather have Obama.  bluestate10   Jan-05-11 08:53 PM   #329 
  - The problem is  Horse with no Name   Jan-03-11 08:15 PM   #12 
  - I'm ready, how bout you?  PhillySane   Jan-03-11 09:34 PM   #28 
  - I've been a member  Enthusiast   Jan-04-11 06:14 AM   #91 
  - Philly Sane  molly77   Jan-04-11 08:32 AM   #123 
  - Count me in. nt  ladjf   Jan-04-11 11:53 AM   #156 
  - I'd vote for a Dean party  marions ghost   Jan-04-11 01:13 PM   #164 
  - The psychology of rape victims.  MedicalAdmin   Jan-04-11 06:31 AM   #97 
  - Although I agree in principle with the essential focus of this argument, I resent and abhor  RandomKoolzip   Jan-04-11 01:50 PM   #169 
     - Just ask some foreclosure victims how they feel.  eilen   Jan-04-11 04:04 PM   #190 
     - Or ask those who have lost jobs that they CARED about and did GOOD work in for  patrice   Jan-04-11 04:31 PM   #200 
     - I've never been raped by a boss,  MedicalAdmin   Jan-04-11 06:02 PM   #250 
        - I was raised to live the nobility of work, not just to get a paycheck. It's an obsolete notion,  patrice   Jan-04-11 06:15 PM   #251 
           - It used to be an avocation. Now it's a J. O. B.  MedicalAdmin   Jan-05-11 05:43 AM   #311 
     - That was my point (or it would have been if I had explained it better)  MedicalAdmin   Jan-04-11 06:00 PM   #248 
     - I disagree  galloglas   Jan-04-11 04:35 PM   #202 
     - To be clear.  MedicalAdmin   Jan-04-11 05:56 PM   #245 
  - My son is in the national socialist party  eilen   Jan-04-11 04:00 PM   #188 
  - There is another solution  jeff47   Jan-04-11 05:02 PM   #215 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-03-11 08:16 PM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-03-11 08:18 PM   #14 
  - "There is no major difference between a McCain administration, a Bush and an Obama administration. "  ProSense   Jan-03-11 08:19 PM   #15 
  - Two realms  tavalon   Jan-04-11 03:10 AM   #68 
  - Two realms  tavalon   Jan-04-11 03:12 AM   #69 
  - That's Right!  BobbyBoring   Jan-04-11 04:40 PM   #204 
  - People have to feel wanted I guess.  bluestate10   Jan-05-11 08:59 PM   #330 
  - Nowhere else to go? As long as we buy that crap we'll be stuck with 2 parties.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-03-11 08:20 PM   #16 
  - Why do you think that we won't be stuck with two parties, even if you don't "buy that crap?"  BzaDem   Jan-03-11 11:31 PM   #32 
  - Despite the seeming stranglehold the (sort of) 2 party system has, things change.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-03-11 11:51 PM   #38 
  - Why do you think that the people "fed up enough" to start a third party represent a non-negligable  BzaDem   Jan-03-11 11:53 PM   #39 
  - Gosh I thought it was 523%  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-03-11 11:58 PM   #43 
  - Exactly. That is precisely the reason they aren't going to start a new party.  BzaDem   Jan-04-11 12:10 AM   #47 
  - the left supports obama. right. nt  tomp   Jan-04-11 05:46 AM   #82 
     - Let's guess what those who are actually in the trenches for Social & Economic Justice would say abou  patrice   Jan-04-11 04:11 PM   #193 
        - frankly, i'm not sure what your perspective is.  tomp   Jan-04-11 05:51 PM   #239 
        - I think all of this revenge on Obama stuff is not coming from the people who do the actual work that  patrice   Jan-04-11 06:34 PM   #260 
        - that's what i thought. lame ass projection of who you think...  tomp   Jan-05-11 05:52 AM   #313 
        - Hogwash.  bluestate10   Jan-05-11 09:34 PM   #337 
           - hogwash yourself.  tomp   Jan-06-11 05:22 AM   #344 
        - I have found the left.  bluestate10   Jan-05-11 09:24 PM   #334 
        - The poster is saying.  bluestate10   Jan-05-11 09:18 PM   #333 
        - I have always distanced myself from the extreme left and the extreme right.  bluestate10   Jan-05-11 09:15 PM   #332 
  - What is the point if all they get is the same result?  eilen   Jan-04-11 04:10 PM   #192 
  - Why does it have to be a third party?  sabrina 1   Jan-04-11 01:21 PM   #166 
  - The threats to Social Security & Medicare are REAL & highly probable, if Obama is replaced by a  patrice   Jan-04-11 06:42 PM   #263 
  - Your attempt to twist what I said is not unfamiliar to me  sabrina 1   Jan-04-11 07:28 PM   #274 
  - It is an almost hopeless argument you're making.  bluestate10   Jan-05-11 09:45 PM   #340 
  - Really?  bluestate10   Jan-05-11 09:40 PM   #338 
  - When one is in an echo chamber and hears nothing but soothing  bluestate10   Jan-05-11 09:05 PM   #331 
  - Good observation. nt  Enthusiast   Jan-04-11 06:16 AM   #92 
  - You seem to be stuck on the fact  PhillySane   Jan-04-11 12:00 AM   #44 
     - It can change if the Constitution changes  BzaDem   Jan-04-11 12:11 AM   #48 
        - Okay  PhillySane   Jan-04-11 12:17 AM   #50 
        - I would love it if the Constitution allowed people to vote for third parties without their votes  BzaDem   Jan-04-11 12:18 AM   #52 
           - Then lets start a party  PhillySane   Jan-04-11 12:22 AM   #54 
        - Yeah! Don't try it because it won't work!  Enthusiast   Jan-04-11 06:19 AM   #94 
        - It is very possible to have 4 parties  eilen   Jan-04-11 04:13 PM   #195 
  - Excellent.  Le Taz Hot   Jan-04-11 03:23 AM   #72 
  - That will only change when the left starts taking the processes of running for office  eridani   Jan-04-11 04:30 AM   #76 
  - I don't buy that crap any longer, and I sure as hell won't vote for Obama  Lorien   Jan-04-11 11:22 AM   #147 
  - So, you are in favor of Privatization of Social Security & the destruction of Medicare. nt  patrice   Jan-04-11 03:43 PM   #186 
  - I think there's penty of places to go, the fight is about HOW to get there & who we hurt along the  patrice   Jan-04-11 03:41 PM   #184 
  - Bye n/t  Still a Democrat   Jan-04-11 05:14 PM   #221 
  - You're leaving?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-04-11 05:49 PM   #238 
     - Sounded like you were leaving the party n/t  Still a Democrat   Jan-04-11 05:53 PM   #242 
        - Nope. I'm Still a Democrat.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-04-11 07:15 PM   #271 
  - Exactly ... and this is a quesiton which should be getting addressed here every day ....  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:28 AM   #296 
  - Do you want to be asleep and happy or do you want to be awake and suffer....and rebel...  kgnu_fan   Jan-03-11 08:21 PM   #17 
  - those are not the only options.  cali   Jan-04-11 02:50 AM   #64 
  - True enough, I have nowhere to go  Raine   Jan-03-11 08:27 PM   #19 
  - and nowhere is where the dems appear to be going with a democratic agenda.  Hannah Bell   Jan-03-11 11:32 PM   #33 
  - I won't stay home - there will be some local elections to vote in  dflprincess   Jan-04-11 09:34 PM   #291 
  - You have nowhere to go. You have nowhere to go.  derby378   Jan-03-11 08:30 PM   #20 
  - There's always somewhere else to go and the left showed us that in 2000.  craigmatic   Jan-03-11 08:35 PM   #21 
  - the left did NOT vote for Nader. nt  awoke_in_2003   Jan-04-11 12:25 AM   #55 
     - That is ridiculous.  former9thward   Jan-04-11 05:59 AM   #85 
     - yes, the tiny percentage of votes he got were almost certainly largely from the left.  cali   Jan-04-11 06:16 AM   #93 
     - The far right and the far left have more in common than their  molly77   Jan-04-11 08:37 AM   #124 
     - You're so right  BobbyBoring   Jan-04-11 04:50 PM   #207 
        - Nobody sees that stuff, because they're too busy acting out against TPB, rather than figuring out  patrice   Jan-04-11 05:35 PM   #233 
        - T baggers are astroturf...financed by Koch Bros/oil industry ... why wouldn't they be misguided?  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:34 AM   #299 
           - I am a moderate.  bluestate10   Jan-05-11 09:52 PM   #341 
     - good point!  marions ghost   Jan-04-11 01:17 PM   #165 
     - But the Nader voters would have ONLY voted for Nader. . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:31 AM   #298 
     - True ... in fact, 300,000 "Democrats" in Florida voted for W ... !!!  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:30 AM   #297 
  - As long as we think we have nowhere to go we shall go nowhere.  Better Believe It   Jan-03-11 08:41 PM   #23 
  - You know, there have been two elections where George W. Bush garnered  zbdent   Jan-03-11 09:06 PM   #24 
  - Okay so they are right - which means we need to work on the grass  jwirr   Jan-03-11 09:27 PM   #26 
  - In many cases, you'll have to fight the local/state/national  Le Taz Hot   Jan-04-11 03:31 AM   #73 
     - Yes, they've worked against progressive candidates  newspeak   Jan-04-11 12:02 PM   #159 
     - Rahm Emmanuel has been soliciting Blue Dogs ...  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:38 AM   #300 
     - I suppose you are right. I happen to live in a very progressive area  jwirr   Jan-04-11 12:22 PM   #160 
        - DC doesn't care how "angry" you are ... they care about making sure you don't have power to do  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:38 AM   #301 
  - Sadly, this seems to be the case (nt)  whatchamacallit   Jan-03-11 09:27 PM   #27 
  - this is the problem with one-dimensional politics  unblock   Jan-03-11 11:26 PM   #30 
  - Time to open up the 2nd axis of politics  dreamnightwind   Jan-04-11 07:00 AM   #99 
     - Remember, Nader was for Obama ... so was Michael Moore ...  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:40 AM   #302 
  - Given that he said there would be little to no difference between Bush and Gore, I'm not going to  BzaDem   Jan-03-11 11:29 PM   #31 
  - Why dont you address the issues he spoke of? Why has Obama continued to support the Bush policies  rhett o rick   Jan-03-11 11:37 PM   #36 
  - There's no hope for the Democratic Party right now.  PhillySane   Jan-03-11 11:45 PM   #37 
  - Perhaps the problem for you is that 91% of liberal Democrats approve of Obama?  BzaDem   Jan-03-11 11:54 PM   #42 
     - Well, I approve of Obama too  PhillySane   Jan-04-11 12:14 AM   #49 
     - Until the Constitution changes, that is your option. n/t  BzaDem   Jan-04-11 12:17 AM   #51 
     - So plez explain how you differ on the issues of the day with the left that you  rhett o rick   Jan-04-11 09:05 AM   #130 
     - First we have to fight those in the Democratic party that support Republlican principles. Like Rahm  rhett o rick   Jan-04-11 09:04 AM   #129 
        - Really?  Recursion   Jan-04-11 03:38 PM   #182 
           - What policies has Rahm pushed to indicate he isnt a corporate shill? I could give a list of  rhett o rick   Jan-04-11 05:13 PM   #220 
              - No, I'm serious. I know DUers hate Rahm but I've never seen a substantive policy reason  Recursion   Jan-04-11 05:35 PM   #234 
                 - He has spit in our faces over and over. You give me an example where he has  rhett o rick   Jan-04-11 08:00 PM   #281 
                    - Yes, I know activists feel insulted  Recursion   Jan-04-11 09:07 PM   #288 
                       - what has he done to help the middle class? nm  rhett o rick   Jan-04-11 10:21 PM   #292 
     - Interesting that instead of addressing issues as the poster did you attack. Very interesting. nm  rhett o rick   Jan-04-11 08:57 AM   #127 
     - This goes on all the time here these days  PhillySane   Jan-04-11 09:45 AM   #133 
        - I ask them over and over to explain where they stand on issues and they refuse to answer. Many are  rhett o rick   Jan-04-11 10:33 AM   #141 
     - Looks more like the problem is with whatever source you're using for that myth --  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:41 AM   #304 
  - Did Bush push for health care reform? Did Bush want to repeal  pnwmom   Jan-04-11 03:08 PM   #171 
  - Has Obama undone any of the Bush policies? Tax breaks for the wealthy and Patriot Act. How about  rhett o rick   Jan-04-11 05:20 PM   #227 
  - I think we're pretty much in agreement that it was a condition of his employment. Some of us are  patrice   Jan-04-11 04:51 PM   #208 
  - Exactly. +1000000000000  Zoeisright   Jan-03-11 11:54 PM   #41 
  - Funny, I have the same reaction to all of your posts. nt  Lorien   Jan-04-11 11:17 AM   #146 
  - I agree, that position is unreasonable per se  treestar   Jan-04-11 03:42 PM   #185 
  - As though the differences aren't so faded as to be almost indisguishable...  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:40 AM   #303 
  - Nope, sorry, don't buy it. Ask the gay soldier who will be able to serve openly, the  Zoeisright   Jan-03-11 11:54 PM   #40 
  - those are social issues,try the economic/foreign policy direction of both parties  democracy1st   Jan-04-11 02:13 AM   #63 
  - Major economic and taxation issues don't seem to count much to you.  leveymg   Jan-04-11 10:28 AM   #140 
  - What percentage of soldiers do you think are gay?  JDPriestly   Jan-04-11 11:30 AM   #151 
  - I agree that the left has nowhere to go in 2012.  robcon   Jan-04-11 12:01 AM   #45 
  - are you equating "left" with "independents"? nt  tomp   Jan-04-11 05:49 AM   #83 
     - Not at all. They have little to do with each other.  robcon   Jan-04-11 08:28 PM   #285 
        - so independents as you define it are unaffiliated and in the center...  tomp   Jan-05-11 05:42 AM   #310 
           - This is not a new idea.  robcon   Jan-05-11 09:55 AM   #320 
              - yes, i've actually heard this, as has anyone paying attention.  tomp   Jan-05-11 09:33 PM   #335 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-04-11 12:09 AM   #46 
  - The most accurate part of the article is near the conclusion:  struggle4progress   Jan-04-11 12:20 AM   #53 
  - Which was always Nader's problem  PhillySane   Jan-04-11 12:29 AM   #56 
  - Huh?  liberation   Jan-04-11 11:54 AM   #157 
     - I actually admire Ralph  PhillySane   Jan-04-11 04:12 PM   #194 
  - excellent analysis. thanks.  cali   Jan-04-11 03:05 AM   #67 
  - i see, anti-war is not good enough, we have to be pro-peace, .....  tomp   Jan-04-11 05:55 AM   #84 
  - Winning requires agenda, accurate analysis, and organization  struggle4progress   Jan-04-11 01:34 PM   #167 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-04-11 05:45 PM   #237 
  - One of the things that continues to annoy me is that the liberal organizations all  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:44 AM   #305 
  - 100% spot on!  democracy1st   Jan-04-11 12:59 AM   #58 
  - The Left DOES have somewhere to go.  MattSh   Jan-04-11 01:50 AM   #59 
  - "The Left" has power.  democrank   Jan-04-11 01:54 AM   #60 
  - The truth.  hulka38   Jan-04-11 01:55 AM   #61 
  - oh fucking please.  cali   Jan-04-11 02:59 AM   #66 
  - k&r  avaistheone1   Jan-04-11 03:15 AM   #71 
  - K&R  CrawlingChaos   Jan-04-11 04:05 AM   #74 
  - No difference? That's crap  eridani   Jan-04-11 04:21 AM   #75 
  - You were proved right  BobbyBoring   Jan-04-11 04:57 PM   #212 
  - K&R  Enthusiast   Jan-04-11 05:15 AM   #77 
  - Whiny "I'm so important - look at me!" bollocks from a pair of egomaniacs  muriel_volestrangler   Jan-04-11 05:35 AM   #78 
  - oh c'mon. does this mean you don't believe that  cali   Jan-04-11 05:42 AM   #80 
  - commentariat  creon   Jan-04-11 07:48 AM   #108 
     - oh for fuck's sake. Gross does interview and a large percentage  cali   Jan-04-11 07:51 AM   #109 
  - Excellent article. I like this observation:  Enthusiast   Jan-04-11 06:00 AM   #86 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-04-11 06:00 AM   #87 
  - well, you won't be vocally supporting a third party candidate here at DU  cali   Jan-04-11 06:10 AM   #89 
  - Don't just complain, ORGANIZE! n.t  groovedaddy   Jan-04-11 07:21 AM   #100 
  - yep, nt  maryf   Jan-04-11 06:22 PM   #255 
  - The GOP or third party are not viable options  VeryConfused   Jan-04-11 07:36 AM   #104 
  - Of course not, "...That suicide is painless It brings on many changes  rhett o rick   Jan-04-11 09:10 AM   #131 
     - what sort of options are there?  VeryConfused   Jan-05-11 08:32 AM   #319 
  - I meant to unrec' this, but accidently recommended it.  Axrendale   Jan-04-11 07:41 AM   #105 
  - I have nowhere to go  creon   Jan-04-11 07:42 AM   #106 
  - It is true the Left is all but ignored in the US.  martymar64   Jan-04-11 07:42 AM   #107 
  - ridiculous. why don't you fucking work on good local governance?  cali   Jan-04-11 07:52 AM   #110 
  - Maybe in Vermont.  progressoid   Jan-04-11 08:00 AM   #112 
  - Exactly. The Left has been hounded and persecuted since forever in this country  martymar64   Jan-05-11 08:12 AM   #318 
  - keeping it classy as always I see  martymar64   Jan-05-11 08:05 AM   #316 
  - uh . . . no. This is about America. You're replicating the error, and in some cases crime, of TPB  patrice   Jan-04-11 07:11 PM   #270 
  - OBAMA KNOWS  Jamel   Jan-04-11 07:57 AM   #111 
  - +1000 +++ n/t  RKP5637   Jan-04-11 10:50 AM   #142 
  - Thank you. I would like, just once, for some of these folks to walk through the steps Obama SHOULD  patrice   Jan-04-11 03:27 PM   #174 
  - Here  Doctor_J   Jan-04-11 08:31 PM   #287 
  - Why Did I think he was going to change things??  BobbyBoring   Jan-04-11 05:04 PM   #216 
  - For all the lip service against Democrats....who would really want to lead the party...  Historic NY   Jan-04-11 08:04 AM   #113 
  - +1 & You know what? For all the damning of "compromise", there sure as heck is one big compromise in  patrice   Jan-04-11 04:02 PM   #189 
  - He certainly nails the election season bullying.  LWolf   Jan-04-11 08:08 AM   #115 
  - The message sent to discourage the left will have consequences  KoKo   Jan-04-11 09:03 AM   #128 
  - The title of the article is misleading. Chris Hedges didn't say that, Nader did.  FormerDittoHead   Jan-04-11 08:10 AM   #117 
  - I'M NOT FAKING. n/t  leeroysphitz   Jan-04-11 08:22 AM   #120 
  - Fuck Ralph Nader...nt  SidDithers   Jan-04-11 09:11 AM   #132 
  - so true - we have no place to go, which includes  placton   Jan-04-11 09:49 AM   #134 
  - Don't worry, Nader will unselfishly offer himself as the "solution" to the problems he denounces.  MilesColtrane   Jan-04-11 03:28 PM   #175 
  - Nader? Automatic unrecc. Obama=Bush=McCain? B.S.  johnaries   Jan-04-11 09:54 AM   #135 
  - I think it is long past time --  Hell Hath No Fury   Jan-04-11 10:06 AM   # 
  - A known enemy is safer than an enemy in disguise. nt  obxhead   Jan-04-11 10:06 AM   #136 
  - There is the other side of this slice of bread.  Marnie   Jan-04-11 10:09 AM   #137 
  - Good post  dreamnightwind   Jan-04-11 06:42 PM   #262 
  - Bleak  FlyByNight   Jan-04-11 10:18 AM   #138 
  - We're just "f-cking retards" who can be ignored when we're not getting kicked in the face.  leveymg   Jan-04-11 10:23 AM   #139 
  - I've got someplace to go- Canada  Fiendish Thingy   Jan-04-11 11:29 AM   #150 
  - We have somewhere to go.....FORWARD!!! nt  and-justice-for-all   Jan-04-11 11:37 AM   #152 
  - To Paraphase Obama  JJW   Jan-04-11 11:56 AM   #158 
  - Ouch.  blackspade   Jan-04-11 03:01 PM   #170 
  - Okay, yes, true, no disputing facts, yada, yada, yada,BUT tell me one god damned thing will you all?  patrice   Jan-04-11 03:13 PM   #172 
  - I am not convinced that isn't Obama's plan  eilen   Jan-04-11 04:32 PM   #201 
     - That's why ALL of it must be more about US than them at this point. Even if that is Obama's plan,  patrice   Jan-04-11 05:24 PM   #228 
  - "But because they (the left) do not make any demands, they are complicit with corporate power."  MilesColtrane   Jan-04-11 03:17 PM   #173 
  - Nader's talking about Democratic Party and the leaders of Dem Party ...  defendandprotect   Jan-05-11 12:49 AM   #308 
  - The Left should sprint to the Barricades !!  galloglas   Jan-04-11 03:30 PM   #176 
  - LOL. Madness  Uzybone   Jan-04-11 03:33 PM   #178 
  - Revenge on Obama, another fucking shiny object, while the REAL deal goes down in the back room. nt  patrice   Jan-04-11 03:34 PM   #179 
  - Q. Wouldn't REAL revenge against the system consist of taking Soc Sec OUT of Obama's hands NOW?  patrice   Jan-04-11 03:38 PM   #181 
  - The public option or even single payer could come back  treestar   Jan-04-11 03:41 PM   #183 
  - Perhaps people don't understand that IS a real possibility AND so is a REAL foundation for a 3rd Par  patrice   Jan-04-11 03:46 PM   #187 
     - You're correct -- destroying Obama would only empower the right.  pnwmom   Jan-04-11 04:07 PM   #191 
        - That's one of the biggest things that gets me about this: THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LEFT HERE,  patrice   Jan-04-11 04:18 PM   #196 
        - The only person responsible for Obama is Obama.  Xicano   Jan-04-11 04:41 PM   #205 
           - If Obama isn't reelected,  pnwmom   Jan-04-11 04:55 PM   #211 
           - And if that happens, who's fault is it? Like I said Obama is responsible for Obama  Xicano   Jan-04-11 05:28 PM   #230 
           - So, you also are for warehousing the elderly until they are out of your way. You need to respond to  patrice   Jan-04-11 05:09 PM   #218 
           - No, but if you continue to cast a vote for Wall Street representatives you are voting for...  Xicano   Jan-04-11 05:56 PM   #246 
           - I think you are oversimplifying the transition. It's not going to happen all at once.  patrice   Jan-04-11 07:05 PM   #269 
              - And I think you're just sweeping dirt under the rug and hoping it'll go away by itself.  Xicano   Jan-04-11 08:22 PM   #283 
           - Electing Obama  eilen   Jan-04-11 07:50 PM   #279 
           - That's a silly analogy  treestar   Jan-04-11 05:27 PM   #229 
  - After a year of teabaggers screaming disruptions at all meetings and investigations up  lunatica   Jan-04-11 04:27 PM   #198 
  - Hedges best yet  Doctor_J   Jan-04-11 04:30 PM   #199 
  - They are afraid of the RW because they can get you FIRED. Tried to get some friends to go  patrice   Jan-04-11 04:38 PM   #203 
     - I worry about going to liberal type protests  ihaveaquestion   Jan-04-11 05:39 PM   #235 
        - I have done years worth of public anti-War stuff here. You do get yelled at. : -(((  patrice   Jan-04-11 06:43 PM   #264 
  - This stuff would grow good tomatos  quaker bill   Jan-04-11 04:49 PM   #206 
  - I feel sorry for Obama.  bobburgster   Jan-04-11 04:54 PM   #209 
  - If you try to live in the middle of the road,  Doctor_J   Jan-04-11 05:14 PM   #223 
     - words to live by  Scruffy1   Jan-04-11 06:33 PM   #259 
  - Maybe Ralph will run in 2012 and get Palin elected?  Still a Democrat   Jan-04-11 05:13 PM   #219 
  - Nader is not responsible for Shrubby  ihaveaquestion   Jan-04-11 05:29 PM   #231 
  - Nader Pegs it...  humbled_opinion   Jan-04-11 05:14 PM   #222 
  - For those of us involved with Dean's Activism in our State Parties..and then saw us Crash & Burn..  KoKo   Jan-04-11 06:26 PM   #257 
     - That is true....  humbled_opinion   Jan-04-11 06:55 PM   #266 
        - I Googled "Tim Kaine's Accomplishments as DNC Chair" and got nothing...Do it yourself...  KoKo   Jan-04-11 07:25 PM   #273 
           - That is so true  humbled_opinion   Jan-05-11 09:34 PM   #336 
  - This just NAILS IT!! Thank you for posting it, Xicano. nt  bertman   Jan-04-11 05:30 PM   #232 
  - Thanks bertman.  Xicano   Jan-04-11 05:59 PM   #247 
  - I agree  pmorlan1   Jan-04-11 05:39 PM   #236 
  - Is he joking? Of course we can go elsewhere. There aren't just two parties.  krabigirl   Jan-04-11 05:54 PM   #243 
  - I suppose everyone is entitled to a good rant now and then  bhikkhu   Jan-04-11 06:21 PM   #254 
  - Hedges overstates his case though ...  Babel_17   Jan-04-11 06:30 PM   #258 
  - It was a very special moment in time  dreamnightwind   Jan-04-11 07:05 PM   #268 
     - Amen  Doctor_J   Jan-04-11 08:15 PM   #282 
  - Sadly this seems true  panzerfaust   Jan-04-11 06:38 PM   #261 
  - k & r n/t  ejbr   Jan-04-11 07:05 PM   #267 
  - I disagree with the first paragraph of the article  Martin Eden   Jan-04-11 07:51 PM   #280 
  - kick....n/t  unkachuck   Jan-04-11 09:07 PM   #289 
  - Clinton got more corporatist agenda accomplished that George 1st could have  upi402   Jan-05-11 05:52 AM   #312 
  - Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours  meow mix   Jan-05-11 10:00 AM   #321 
 

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