| -Is cursive handwriting obsolete? |
The Straight Story |
May-11-11 01:43 PM |
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Besides my signature, |
Drale |
May-11-11 01:44 PM |
#1 |
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Yup. That's a year of my childhood I'll never get back. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-11-11 01:47 PM |
#3 |
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Algebra is dealing with an unknown quantity -- you never do that? |
immoderate |
May-11-11 02:06 PM |
#23 |
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You misunderstood me. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-11-11 03:41 PM |
#147 |
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Oh. |
immoderate |
May-11-11 04:01 PM |
#170 |
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You're lucky |
Capitalocracy |
May-11-11 03:08 PM |
#96 |
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Back in the day, you did everything in cursive. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-11-11 03:42 PM |
#150 |
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We had cursive through the 6th grade, not just one year. Personally, I use it everyday, because I |
Hestia |
May-11-11 04:39 PM |
#195 |
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I don't use it much anymore either |
Liberal_in_LA |
May-11-11 02:05 PM |
#22 |
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I quit using it immediately out of high school. |
Hissyspit |
May-11-11 03:39 PM |
#141 |
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Important issue I forgot to address: Hissyspit, et al: Do you know how to READ cursive? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:03 PM |
#171 |
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Obviously, I do. |
Hissyspit |
May-11-11 08:00 PM |
#280 |
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Cursive, unlike Morse Code, is useful in daily life. But yes, we learned Morse Code in school |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 09:23 PM |
#295 |
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Weird connection: I always print BECAUSE of Morse Code! |
mwb970 |
May-12-11 07:00 AM |
#339 |
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I hope not. You acquire discipline from learning good |
Skidmore |
May-11-11 01:45 PM |
#2 |
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+1 |
xchrom |
May-11-11 01:47 PM |
#4 |
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Why? |
MattBaggins |
May-11-11 02:01 PM |
#12 |
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Because that's the way they did and gosh darnit, it was the right way! |
alcibiades_mystery |
May-11-11 03:36 PM |
#131 |
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It is beautiful though |
Mojorabbit |
May-11-11 03:54 PM |
#163 |
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Imagine how easy it will be to forge checks when cursive is obsolete. |
Chef Eric |
May-11-11 04:07 PM |
#179 |
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what are these "checks" of which you speak? |
fishwax |
May-11-11 06:29 PM |
#258 |
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I feel the same, but I fear that it is going away. |
kick-ass-bob |
May-11-11 01:50 PM |
#6 |
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Specifically what? |
MattBaggins |
May-11-11 02:01 PM |
#10 |
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LOL, that is the argument used by the defenders of all obsolete skills. |
Odin2005 |
May-11-11 03:08 PM |
#97 |
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Not talking about that kind of discipline. |
Skidmore |
May-11-11 03:22 PM |
#108 |
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Agree. I remember the writing drills that my first grade teacher put my |
bluestate10 |
May-11-11 04:04 PM |
#174 |
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Not with me. It's all I know. n/t |
Cleita |
May-11-11 01:48 PM |
#5 |
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Cursive writing is faster than any other form of manual writing. And it is beautiful. nt |
bluestate10 |
May-11-11 04:06 PM |
#177 |
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Well, apparently some can't read it anymore. |
Cleita |
May-11-11 07:42 PM |
#273 |
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grammar seems to be going obsolete too |
ginnyinWI |
May-11-11 01:53 PM |
#7 |
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It bothers me a lot too |
CountAllVotes |
May-11-11 01:58 PM |
#9 |
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I read a few years back that a lot of younger people can't read a traditional clock. |
CrispyQ |
May-11-11 02:03 PM |
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I had a co-worker in her late twenties who couldn't tell time without a digital clock. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 02:09 PM |
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Tell teenagers 'I'll pick you up at twenty of six' and they're baffled. n/t |
Davis_X_Machina |
May-11-11 02:14 PM |
#28 |
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I'm 42 and into anachronisms |
Sentath |
May-11-11 03:04 PM |
#91 |
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Twenty of six? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:39 PM |
#196 |
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5:40... |
Davis_X_Machina |
May-11-11 07:44 PM |
#275 |
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The "of" is no regionalism, Son. |
mwb970 |
May-12-11 06:53 AM |
#337 |
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It didn't seem so universal in my part of the world in the 1960s |
Art_from_Ark |
May-12-11 07:39 AM |
#347 |
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I'd be baffled with that one too. |
octothorpe |
May-12-11 07:04 AM |
#342 |
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Why didn't she just learn how to read one? |
octothorpe |
May-12-11 07:02 AM |
#341 |
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Don't kid yourself. |
Codeine |
May-13-11 02:22 PM |
#354 |
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I had to learn how to read a traditional clock |
csziggy |
May-11-11 06:12 PM |
#254 |
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A flip clock. I'd forgotten about them. |
CrispyQ |
May-11-11 07:48 PM |
#276 |
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That is neat - but it would take some getting used to! |
csziggy |
May-11-11 09:47 PM |
#302 |
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I take it that's a 24 hour clock? |
octothorpe |
May-12-11 07:07 AM |
#343 |
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I'm not sure what a 24 hour clock is. |
CrispyQ |
May-13-11 12:20 PM |
#352 |
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Oh noes, people are dropping -ly from adverbs! The world is gonna end!!! |
Odin2005 |
May-11-11 03:10 PM |
#101 |
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LOL, that is the argument used by all defenders of sub-literacy. nt |
Codeine |
May-11-11 03:17 PM |
#104 |
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I can write and speak perfect standard English if I want to. |
Odin2005 |
May-11-11 03:30 PM |
#119 |
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Sir, there is a big difference between welcoming difference in language and ENCOURAGING ignorance |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:56 PM |
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Yep! |
Le Taz Hot |
May-11-11 03:40 PM |
#146 |
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I never learned it. |
Sonoman |
May-11-11 01:54 PM |
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My wife is German and doesn't use cursive |
MattBaggins |
May-11-11 02:03 PM |
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Actually, I'll bet those skilled in cursive writing... |
theHandpuppet |
May-11-11 02:03 PM |
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I taught myself. |
Sonoman |
May-11-11 02:19 PM |
#34 |
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Do you denigrate every skill you don't possess? |
aquart |
May-11-11 02:22 PM |
#39 |
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I find most people do. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 02:24 PM |
#42 |
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Not to mention the folks that denigrate |
MattBaggins |
May-11-11 02:27 PM |
#47 |
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I'm not denigrating anybody. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 02:30 PM |
#54 |
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Removing an unnecessary second way to learn to write |
MattBaggins |
May-11-11 02:33 PM |
#58 |
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you're right. we should drop block printing from the get go. |
kick-ass-bob |
May-11-11 02:57 PM |
#82 |
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Man, I don't have time for that. |
Sonoman |
May-11-11 02:28 PM |
#51 |
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And you had a decent reason. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 02:31 PM |
#56 |
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because it is faster, for one. |
kick-ass-bob |
May-11-11 02:39 PM |
#66 |
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They were the first fonts. nt |
Confusious |
May-11-11 10:04 PM |
#309 |
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I'm 21, and when I was in school |
LoveIsNow |
May-11-11 02:01 PM |
#11 |
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"The normal way"? |
aquart |
May-11-11 02:24 PM |
#44 |
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Printing like kindergarteners, I suppose. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 02:42 PM |
#70 |
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Wouldn't be the first time I was considered "abnormal" |
WolverineDG |
May-11-11 02:53 PM |
#77 |
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Abby... Someone? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 09:28 PM |
#299 |
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I'm 45. And I don't use cursive. |
MedicalAdmin |
May-11-11 02:47 PM |
#75 |
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I write in cursive. It's actually quicker than printing- you don't lift your hand from the paper as |
KittyWampus |
May-11-11 03:17 PM |
#105 |
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Ergonomically you may be correct in a statistical averaged way. |
MedicalAdmin |
May-11-11 04:55 PM |
#213 |
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Well... |
Rebubula |
May-11-11 03:40 PM |
#144 |
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Is the normal way drawing alphabets with crayons? nt |
bluestate10 |
May-11-11 04:12 PM |
#180 |
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52 here...write in cursive |
kurtzapril4 |
May-11-11 08:34 PM |
#283 |
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You must not know many people nt |
rpannier |
May-11-11 11:29 PM |
#326 |
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I'm old fashioned, I suppose. |
PDJane |
May-11-11 02:02 PM |
#13 |
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Well, sure, and why do we even need to learn how to spell? |
juajen |
May-11-11 02:03 PM |
#14 |
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+1 |
theHandpuppet |
May-11-11 02:05 PM |
#21 |
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I agree. I see it as very creative, you can show your |
Raine |
May-11-11 02:37 PM |
#62 |
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and back in my day, we even got a grade in penmanship:) |
SoCalDem |
May-11-11 03:37 PM |
#136 |
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Or, in my case, a BAD grade in penmanship. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 05:28 PM |
#241 |
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I am a south paw |
ChazII |
May-11-11 10:35 PM |
#319 |
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My mother was a lefty & had beautiful handwriting. |
CrispyQ |
May-13-11 12:34 PM |
#353 |
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I remember those days, including the boy who |
Cleita |
May-11-11 09:25 PM |
#297 |
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And when inkwells got replaced with cartridges, they switched to going for distance n/t |
eridani |
May-12-11 02:16 AM |
#331 |
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ooooo, pens |
Confusious |
May-11-11 10:08 PM |
#310 |
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I still use it, but..... |
DFW |
May-11-11 02:03 PM |
#15 |
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Point of fact: if you want to REMEMBER something |
Samantha |
May-11-11 02:04 PM |
#19 |
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Not among people who understand the value of creating choices for themselves. (nt) |
Heidi |
May-11-11 02:04 PM |
#20 |
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Absolutely and for good reason. |
FLAprogressive |
May-11-11 02:08 PM |
#24 |
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that is not true |
CountAllVotes |
May-11-11 02:12 PM |
#26 |
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Then people will train for that |
MattBaggins |
May-11-11 02:19 PM |
#35 |
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Just learning basic English would suit me |
CountAllVotes |
May-11-11 02:39 PM |
#68 |
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Can you read this? |
jberryhill |
May-11-11 03:33 PM |
#126 |
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only a very small percentage of people will ever need to read old records... |
yawnmaster |
May-11-11 04:45 PM |
#201 |
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I'd much rather have people who are able to write coherent sentences than write in cursive. |
FLAprogressive |
May-11-11 06:43 PM |
#261 |
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Ease and speed are not to be sneezed at.... |
Davis_X_Machina |
May-11-11 02:13 PM |
#27 |
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I graduated in 2006. By 6th grade, it was optional. nt |
Modern_Matthew |
May-11-11 02:14 PM |
#29 |
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I don't get it... |
pipi_k |
May-11-11 02:14 PM |
#30 |
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I recently acquired a stepdaughter. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 02:20 PM |
#36 |
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You were floored to find that a kid does something kids do instinctively? |
MattBaggins |
May-11-11 02:23 PM |
#41 |
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By that age they should be able to handle |
Codeine |
May-11-11 02:27 PM |
#48 |
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It depends on the child. She'll develop past finger counting when she is ready, and it's |
GreenPartyVoter |
May-11-11 03:06 PM |
#94 |
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I'm not sure that being "understanding and flexible" serves kids all that well. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 03:14 PM |
#103 |
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But there's a difference between having high expectations and _too_ high expectations. I find that |
GreenPartyVoter |
May-11-11 03:40 PM |
#142 |
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Thanks! |
Codeine |
May-11-11 03:41 PM |
#148 |
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That would be one hand + two fingers right? |
Confusious |
May-11-11 10:10 PM |
#311 |
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Hang on. . . one. . . two. . . yeah, that's right. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 10:45 PM |
#322 |
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By 7, a child should have moved from the concrete to the abstract. |
Skidmore |
May-11-11 02:53 PM |
#78 |
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Well, to be fair... |
pipi_k |
May-11-11 04:56 PM |
#214 |
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Well, when you get a higher level math course |
Confusious |
May-11-11 10:12 PM |
#312 |
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My daughter does supplemental teaching of the |
Skidmore |
May-11-11 02:33 PM |
#59 |
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My plan exactly. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 02:37 PM |
#63 |
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Just a note for you. |
Skidmore |
May-12-11 07:00 AM |
#340 |
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You mistakenly think there is the same amount being taught |
MattBaggins |
May-11-11 02:22 PM |
#38 |
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Exactly. Human knowledge has expanded greatly. |
ieoeja |
May-11-11 02:36 PM |
#61 |
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I know enough kids to know they aren't learning squat. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 02:39 PM |
#67 |
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And 25 years ago when I graduated from high school |
Goblinmonger |
May-11-11 02:58 PM |
#83 |
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It's been 40 years for me - my reunion is this weekend |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-11-11 06:07 PM |
#252 |
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Well, yeah, the Bible was ditched in those 15 years. |
Goblinmonger |
May-11-11 09:19 PM |
#291 |
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Not to mention walking ten miles to school in the snow-- |
eridani |
May-12-11 02:21 AM |
#332 |
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I guess that using a spell check takes too long |
CountAllVotes |
May-11-11 02:43 PM |
#71 |
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LOL, I bet you want us to get off your lawn, too. |
Odin2005 |
May-11-11 03:05 PM |
#92 |
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It's a matter of fact- many kids entering college can't produce an essay & can barely |
KittyWampus |
May-11-11 03:22 PM |
#107 |
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Good lord, there are an increasingly larger number of 30-year-olds |
haele |
May-11-11 10:40 PM |
#320 |
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Since the "down" of time . . . |
Le Taz Hot |
May-11-11 03:52 PM |
#160 |
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Oh no, a typo on a message board! The HORROR! |
Odin2005 |
May-11-11 09:15 PM |
#287 |
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The word is "Irony," dear. |
Le Taz Hot |
May-12-11 08:57 AM |
#350 |
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Computers/Texting has diminished child's capacity for sustained effort. |
KittyWampus |
May-11-11 03:20 PM |
#106 |
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There are multiple reasons |
JoeyT |
May-12-11 01:36 AM |
#330 |
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I use a mix of regular letters with cursive the majority of the time |
tammywammy |
May-11-11 02:16 PM |
#31 |
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Thank You. I posted the very same. Cursive is basically faster as you don't lift |
KittyWampus |
May-11-11 03:23 PM |
#109 |
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I rarely use all block letters |
tammywammy |
May-11-11 03:33 PM |
#125 |
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How strange. I find printing to be faster. |
mwb970 |
May-12-11 07:13 AM |
#344 |
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Another step in dumbing down the populace. |
RC |
May-11-11 02:16 PM |
#32 |
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I'll bet the same "sky is falling" statements happened |
MattBaggins |
May-11-11 02:25 PM |
#45 |
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Instead of teaching kids to type at 70-100 wpm on a computer |
Goblinmonger |
May-11-11 02:59 PM |
#85 |
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No. But cursive writing forces children to develop useful skills that |
bluestate10 |
May-11-11 04:34 PM |
#192 |
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I know of no studies that show |
Goblinmonger |
May-11-11 09:18 PM |
#289 |
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Those skills would be developed far more comprehensively in an art class, IMO n/t |
eridani |
May-12-11 02:23 AM |
#333 |
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Teaching them that they can't do SHIT in life without a consumer device is dumbing down. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 05:25 PM |
#237 |
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I fully agree. |
RC |
May-11-11 07:49 PM |
#277 |
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Yet even the things they're writing by hand will most likely have to be typed up after a few drafts. |
themadstork |
May-14-11 11:40 AM |
#360 |
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How many skills and bits of knowledge are we going to throw away? |
Codeine |
May-11-11 02:17 PM |
#33 |
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+1 !!! |
tammywammy |
May-11-11 02:20 PM |
#37 |
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We really need to bring back |
kurtzapril4 |
May-11-11 09:15 PM |
#288 |
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Didn't you claim earlier you weren't denigrating people? |
MattBaggins |
May-11-11 02:40 PM |
#69 |
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I'm not. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 02:43 PM |
#72 |
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Well, as long as we don't say "gay" or mention sex, we'll be fine /nt |
jberryhill |
May-11-11 03:35 PM |
#129 |
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Algebra isn't 6th grade knowledge |
Hippo_Tron |
May-11-11 04:26 PM |
#186 |
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Sitting on the toliet |
Confusious |
May-11-11 10:14 PM |
#315 |
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Ive heard potty training can be very traumatizing. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 10:52 PM |
#323 |
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Are you equating a knowledge of algebra with writing that connects the letters? |
mwb970 |
May-12-11 06:55 AM |
#338 |
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Where do you stand on this, Straight Story? Is long division obsolete? Are blackboards obsolete? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 02:22 PM |
#40 |
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I just learned, my old high school has replaced all blackboards & projectors w/ giant touch screens. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 02:25 PM |
#46 |
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It's okay. The Chinese will build our machines for us. |
aquart |
May-11-11 02:27 PM |
#49 |
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Heh heh. But you forgot, pretty soon only machines can build other machines. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 02:29 PM |
#53 |
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Why would people with finely tuned brains work 23/6 for pennies a day? |
MattBaggins |
May-11-11 02:36 PM |
#60 |
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Finely tuned brains like yours and other Americans? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:24 PM |
#111 |
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Because there are billions of them and only millions of jobs. |
aquart |
May-11-11 05:39 PM |
#243 |
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My Stand: Leave it up to the individual school districts/PTA/Parents to decide |
The Straight Story |
May-11-11 02:58 PM |
#84 |
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You can't make a basic skill an elective. Why am I not surprised folks get all their news from tube |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:26 PM |
#112 |
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Blackboards are long gone. |
Goblinmonger |
May-11-11 03:01 PM |
#88 |
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Why am I not surprised that this is coming from DU technocrats? Also, white boards are a menace |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:24 PM |
#110 |
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Well, let's go point by point. |
Goblinmonger |
May-11-11 03:28 PM |
#115 |
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And so Google promotes the death of single authorship. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:31 PM |
#122 |
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Don't share it and work with someone on it if you don't want to. |
Goblinmonger |
May-11-11 03:34 PM |
#127 |
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I didn't say it was stupid, I said that cloud computing is teaching kids to be at home with |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:41 PM |
#149 |
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Booga, booga, booga. n/t |
Goblinmonger |
May-11-11 03:43 PM |
#151 |
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Wow, that's an intellectual response. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:47 PM |
#153 |
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I'm certainly a worse person for having learned how a bill becomes a law via Saturday morning cartoo |
LanternWaste |
May-11-11 04:22 PM |
#183 |
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Would you prefer Public TV be brought to you by Google, Verizon, or Lockheed Martin? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:32 PM |
#191 |
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I imagine many people think it's either one or the other... |
LanternWaste |
May-11-11 05:49 PM |
#248 |
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This is tragic. Studies show that brain function improves with cursive writing |
Duer 157099 |
May-11-11 02:24 PM |
#43 |
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There is no need to learn a foreign language when everyone will speak English on the wired future. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 02:27 PM |
#50 |
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I see no reason why a self-respecting person who is not a Christian |
Confusious |
May-11-11 10:21 PM |
#316 |
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Is it cursive alone or just writing? |
MattBaggins |
May-11-11 02:38 PM |
#65 |
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It has to do with the flow of the letter |
Duer 157099 |
May-11-11 02:46 PM |
#74 |
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I take it you didn't learn cursive since you're bitching about a basic skill. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:27 PM |
#113 |
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Take what you will |
MattBaggins |
May-11-11 08:55 PM |
#284 |
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That's a shame cursive is much faster than have to print |
Raine |
May-11-11 02:29 PM |
#52 |
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The irony is I find this repulsive, yet I almost always write in print. It takes me longer but |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 02:30 PM |
#55 |
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There is also an association between cursive writing and reading speed |
Duer 157099 |
May-11-11 02:38 PM |
#64 |
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Is it a correlation or causation. |
Goblinmonger |
May-11-11 03:29 PM |
#116 |
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There are always exceptions, always |
Duer 157099 |
May-11-11 04:05 PM |
#175 |
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Early reader here--not at all learning disabled. I could read long before I could print-- |
eridani |
May-12-11 02:30 AM |
#334 |
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Kids today celebrate the demise of paper and pen. They speak & think in chatspeak, aka newspeak |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:29 PM |
#117 |
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This is |
road2000 |
May-11-11 09:13 PM |
#286 |
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I've got the motor skills to work on cars and computers... |
hunter |
May-11-11 02:31 PM |
#57 |
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I am the same way. But it's impt to write long form. I learned to do Sumi-E in art class as a kid |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:51 PM |
#158 |
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More to the point-Most young DUers would not lament the death of art class either. Who needs Sumi-e? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:51 PM |
#159 |
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It seems like schools in general spend less time actually teaching |
guardian |
May-11-11 02:46 PM |
#73 |
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Pure, ignorant, outdated, benighted bullshit. |
montanto |
May-11-11 02:56 PM |
#80 |
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Touch a nerve? |
guardian |
May-11-11 03:01 PM |
#87 |
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That's all great if the world stopped having history in 1955. |
kick-ass-bob |
May-11-11 03:10 PM |
#100 |
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And more complicated math requires using a blackboard to fully comprehend. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:39 PM |
#140 |
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One thing I thought of as I read your post.... |
pipi_k |
May-11-11 05:27 PM |
#240 |
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Indeed. I'm jealous of the ASL option that kids in my district have now n/t |
eridani |
May-12-11 02:34 AM |
#335 |
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I'm sure he could write code just as quickly too... |
LanternWaste |
May-11-11 04:24 PM |
#185 |
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Funny, I seem to be able to write in code faster than some of the folks I run up against |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:36 PM |
#193 |
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Well of course you could... |
LanternWaste |
May-11-11 05:44 PM |
#246 |
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Well, since coding and cursive have little to do with one another... there u go. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 10:04 PM |
#308 |
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"Yet another 1955er with "the way things were in good ole days." Translation: Grew up in Bush era |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:40 PM |
#145 |
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Not for me, almost all the handwriting |
Riftaxe |
May-11-11 02:52 PM |
#76 |
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Cursive Writing |
49jim |
May-11-11 02:54 PM |
#79 |
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For some reason, kids in the 1950s all learned cursive in the third grade |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-11-11 02:57 PM |
#81 |
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Not learning hand division and multiplication is not learning basic mathematics. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:35 PM |
#128 |
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I hated learning arithmetic, but I use it nearly every day |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-11-11 07:42 PM |
#272 |
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I'm pretentious enough to write in cursive. |
Lucian |
May-11-11 02:59 PM |
#86 |
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You god damned kids and your fancy telegraphs. |
Goblinmonger |
May-11-11 03:02 PM |
#89 |
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Kids should be taught to type/10 key, not write in cursive. |
Bennyboy |
May-11-11 03:03 PM |
#90 |
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Because 6 weeks of 20 minutes a day when you're 8 |
kick-ass-bob |
May-11-11 03:06 PM |
#93 |
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They can learn both. |
Codeine |
May-11-11 03:08 PM |
#98 |
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Funny but I am the ONLY male I know that can type... |
Bennyboy |
May-11-11 03:36 PM |
#133 |
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Somebody was using all those typewriters. nt |
Codeine |
May-11-11 03:38 PM |
#138 |
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I learned both in elementary school. I'm 30 n/t |
tammywammy |
May-11-11 03:29 PM |
# |
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Because it's IMPOSSIBLE to learn both, is that your argument? |
WinkyDink |
May-11-11 03:29 PM |
#118 |
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No, cursive has no purpose... |
Bennyboy |
May-11-11 03:38 PM |
#139 |
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Agree. Times have changed and keyboarding is a necessity. n/t |
kiranon |
May-11-11 11:04 PM |
#324 |
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I learned it, but I have never used it, manuscript style ("printing") is more legible. |
Odin2005 |
May-11-11 03:06 PM |
#95 |
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never? You wasted time on school exams by printing? |
WinkyDink |
May-11-11 03:30 PM |
#120 |
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My printing is faster for me than cursive because I have awful eye-hand coordination. |
Odin2005 |
May-11-11 03:37 PM |
#135 |
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I spent many years doing and coaching college policy debate |
Goblinmonger |
May-11-11 09:23 PM |
#294 |
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it's a right-brained activity... |
IcyPeas |
May-11-11 03:10 PM |
#99 |
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that's how I see it |
marions ghost |
May-11-11 04:49 PM |
#206 |
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American education is designed to suppress right-brained activity. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 05:19 PM |
#232 |
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I always post here in cursive writing. |
bikebloke |
May-11-11 03:13 PM |
#102 |
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Instructions for Posting in Cursive on DU -- your post inspired me. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 05:27 PM |
#239 |
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Kids don't write; they don't read. But printing like a first-grader? That they can do. |
WinkyDink |
May-11-11 03:27 PM |
#114 |
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Who needs cursive to write in chat-speak? And I say that as a Gen-Xer |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:33 PM |
#124 |
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Some folks take the "everything I need to know I learned in kindergarten" line |
Codeine |
May-11-11 03:36 PM |
#134 |
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Stop teaching it ... it is DEAD. |
JoePhilly |
May-11-11 03:31 PM |
#121 |
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And why do you think it is dead? How do you go about writing things quickly on paper? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:33 PM |
#123 |
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Electronic devices make things work faster. |
Hissyspit |
May-11-11 03:48 PM |
#154 |
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So you believe people should not be able to write long-form on paper AT ALL. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:56 PM |
#164 |
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Ok, now this if HILARIOUS!!! |
JoePhilly |
May-11-11 04:16 PM |
#182 |
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Yeah, nobody NEEDS to do ANYTHING different. You have the choice... if you want to be shunned |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:38 PM |
#194 |
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I use a combination of |
Control-Z |
May-11-11 05:17 PM |
#227 |
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Personally, I PRINT way faster, and far more legibly. |
JoePhilly |
May-11-11 04:01 PM |
#169 |
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Kids who can't write cursive can't read cursive... nuff said. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:07 PM |
# |
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Two more assertions, both wrong. |
JoePhilly |
May-11-11 04:23 PM |
#184 |
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Oh, I see, you think that kids should / will only read printed text in THA FUTCHA! |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:42 PM |
#199 |
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Just to add, in THA FUTCHA we will all wear identical clothes and shop at identical stores |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:44 PM |
#200 |
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A few simple questions. |
JoePhilly |
May-12-11 07:19 AM |
#345 |
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I'm guessing BETA. |
Goblinmonger |
May-11-11 09:25 PM |
#296 |
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Do you really use cursive on your signature? |
Quantess |
May-11-11 03:58 PM |
#167 |
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Ding Ding Ding ... |
JoePhilly |
May-11-11 04:05 PM |
#176 |
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Latin was considered a "dead language" |
road2000 |
May-11-11 09:23 PM |
#293 |
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I prefer not to. |
rug |
May-11-11 03:35 PM |
#130 |
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Cursive writing is obsolete. |
Quantess |
May-11-11 03:36 PM |
#132 |
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Again I ask: How do YOU write? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 03:43 PM |
#152 |
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That's the first time you asked me, actually. |
Quantess |
May-11-11 03:50 PM |
#156 |
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Fair enough. As mentioned above, I'm a bit of a hypocrite on this issue. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:00 PM |
#168 |
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In my opinion, legibility is most important. |
Quantess |
May-11-11 04:07 PM |
#178 |
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I think the latin alphabet needs to be reformed anyway. We need an easy-to-write alphabet |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:29 PM |
#189 |
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The rote practice nowadays is a waste of time. If they need rote, make them learn state capitals... |
yawnmaster |
May-11-11 04:54 PM |
#212 |
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Since when is "rote learning" bad? That sort of thinking got us into this mess. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 05:01 PM |
#219 |
| -
Please read that in context of the subject at hand.... |
yawnmaster |
May-11-11 06:23 PM |
#256 |
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I have an opinion, but "Ow! My Balls!" is coming on and I don't want to miss it! nt |
Buns_of_Fire |
May-11-11 03:38 PM |
#137 |
| -
That pretty much sums this thread up, sir. nt |
Codeine |
May-11-11 03:40 PM |
#143 |
| -
Epic Response |
Rebubula |
May-11-11 03:49 PM |
#155 |
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We could replace cursive instruction classes with classes in logic? |
Hissyspit |
May-11-11 03:50 PM |
#157 |
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YES! now that would NOT be a waste of time. eom |
yawnmaster |
May-11-11 06:24 PM |
#257 |
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I guess it's time for this debate again, and time for people here to tell us |
NYC Liberal |
May-11-11 03:53 PM |
#161 |
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I'll add to that. |
Quantess |
May-11-11 04:04 PM |
#172 |
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+1 |
FLAprogressive |
May-11-11 06:35 PM |
#260 |
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I never use it other than my signature and have never been fond |
TheKentuckian |
May-11-11 03:53 PM |
#162 |
| -
I use it frequently (notes, shopping lists) but my kids NEVER do. |
Arugula Latte |
May-11-11 03:57 PM |
#165 |
| -
Do they write ANYTHING down on paper? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 05:23 PM |
#235 |
| -
Well, when they write, they print. |
Arugula Latte |
May-11-11 05:33 PM |
#242 |
| -
Of course we should stop teaching cursive! |
last_texas_dem |
May-11-11 03:58 PM |
#166 |
| -
Is this why, when I hand people stuff written on paper, they say "I can't read this?" |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:04 PM |
#173 |
| -
You can say the same for algebra |
Courtesy Flush |
May-11-11 04:15 PM |
#181 |
| -
more need algebra than cursive in modern times... |
yawnmaster |
May-11-11 04:50 PM |
#208 |
| -
But science is going out of fashion |
Courtesy Flush |
May-11-11 05:44 PM |
#245 |
| -
Thats a bit of hyperbole as science even if out of fashion is still a valid technique... |
yawnmaster |
May-11-11 06:03 PM |
#251 |
| -
Dude, you take yourself too seriously. nt |
Courtesy Flush |
May-11-11 07:05 PM |
#263 |
| -
define "too" eom |
yawnmaster |
May-12-11 10:09 AM |
#351 |
| -
I still write and receive letters in cursive. |
LanternWaste |
May-11-11 04:28 PM |
#187 |
| -
What are these l e t -t e r s you speak of? |
geardaddy |
May-11-11 05:15 PM |
#224 |
| -
If they don't know how to write cursive, how will they be able to read it? |
jsamuel |
May-11-11 04:28 PM |
#188 |
| -
That's my concern as well. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:47 PM |
#203 |
| -
little need anymore for that. Plus its easier to read cursive than to write it... |
yawnmaster |
May-11-11 04:48 PM |
#205 |
| -
"Anymore"? What, because you only read stuff on computer? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:50 PM |
#207 |
| -
no I do not read only from a computer... |
yawnmaster |
May-11-11 05:03 PM |
#220 |
| -
Well they should be taught to write some reports on paper |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 05:17 PM |
#228 |
| -
how about Wedding Invitations ? |
JI7 |
May-11-11 04:31 PM |
#190 |
| -
What font should we learn to write? |
yawnmaster |
May-11-11 04:46 PM |
#202 |
| -
Because "modern time" is so goddamn valuable and well-informed. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:51 PM |
#209 |
| -
unconnected to the issue. In modern times (recently, now, and in the near future), cursive is... |
yawnmaster |
May-11-11 05:00 PM |
#218 |
| -
Because...? Because you feel writing on paper is obsolete? Or because everyone should write the same |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 05:15 PM |
#223 |
| -
What are the objective, relevant and precise reasons that one form of handwriting (cursive) is out o |
LanternWaste |
May-11-11 05:42 PM |
#244 |
| -
objective, relevant and precise? I'll have to get back to you once I get the grant... |
yawnmaster |
May-11-11 06:18 PM |
#255 |
| -
I hope not... |
kentuck |
May-11-11 04:40 PM |
#197 |
| -
Handwriting period is becoming obsolete. |
phleshdef |
May-11-11 04:42 PM |
#198 |
| -
So in this thread I've learned that books, handwriting, etc. are all obsolete thx to human evolution |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:52 PM |
#210 |
| -
The invention of paper and ink made previous ways of doing the same thing obsolete as well. |
phleshdef |
May-11-11 05:15 PM |
#225 |
| -
You're the one advocating that we need handhelds to perform even the most basic tasks such as read+w |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 09:22 PM |
#292 |
| -
Bullshit. I never advocated that we "need" anything one way or the other. |
phleshdef |
May-12-11 08:47 AM |
#349 |
| -
I wouldn't count on that |
Hippo_Tron |
May-11-11 04:57 PM |
#215 |
| -
What I was taught as a kid is that in 40 years we would all do everything, speak learn etc.on our TV |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 05:00 PM |
#217 |
| -
They aren't trying to make it happen. Its already happening and its not because of the telecoms. |
phleshdef |
May-11-11 05:19 PM |
#231 |
| -
They were also saying that type writers would be replaced by computers. |
phleshdef |
May-11-11 05:16 PM |
#226 |
| -
No, I said that technology changes in ways we CAN and CAN'T predict |
Hippo_Tron |
May-11-11 05:25 PM |
#236 |
| -
here's how to do the capital Q |
Enrique |
May-11-11 04:47 PM |
#204 |
| -
I think as a practical skill it has limited utility, but it may have other benefits |
Hippo_Tron |
May-11-11 04:54 PM |
#211 |
| -
It is a major part of it. You can't exempt stuff like this and say "oh, but that's ok" |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 04:58 PM |
#216 |
| -
Do you have any evidence to suggest it's a major part of it? |
Hippo_Tron |
May-11-11 05:06 PM |
#221 |
| -
Someone upthread mentioned they don't read DU in cursive. Try it, it's a good exercise. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 05:14 PM |
#222 |
| -
If schools want to offer handcrafting furniture or cursive for that matter, I'm fine with it |
Hippo_Tron |
May-11-11 05:18 PM |
#230 |
| -
It is a vital skill to learn how to read cursive. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 05:21 PM |
#233 |
| -
Reading this site isn't a vital life skill, let alone reading it in cursive |
Hippo_Tron |
May-11-11 05:26 PM |
#238 |
| -
One doesn't need to learn how to do so. nt |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 07:16 PM |
#265 |
| -
Less usage? Yes. Obsolete? No. |
road2000 |
May-11-11 05:18 PM |
#229 |
| -
Warning! The following article is from The Great Soviet Encyclopedia (1979). It might be outdated or |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 07:14 PM |
#264 |
| -
I never understood the point of it - makes reading too difficult |
TorchTheWitch |
May-11-11 05:23 PM |
#234 |
| -
Apparently, you apply the same standard to spelling. n/t |
road2000 |
May-11-11 09:28 PM |
#298 |
| -
Big band music is obsolete. Music departments should stop teaching it |
LanternWaste |
May-11-11 05:47 PM |
#247 |
| -
Music Departments? Lit Departments? What era are you living in? :-) |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 07:18 PM |
#266 |
| -
Nope, and if anything kids should spend more time in school learning more things |
jp11 |
May-11-11 05:51 PM |
#249 |
| -
yes. |
CreekDog |
May-11-11 05:52 PM |
#250 |
| -
I teach cursive writing to third graders |
senseandsensibility |
May-11-11 06:11 PM |
#253 |
| -
The common rejoinder in this thread: 'to succeed'. |
Shandris |
May-11-11 06:35 PM |
#259 |
| -
This is my favorite post. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 10:00 PM |
#306 |
| -
Only for slack-jawed nitwits. |
Throd |
May-11-11 06:49 PM |
#262 |
| -
While you were learning how to SPELL YOUR NAME I was being TRAINED to CONQUER GALAXIES! |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 07:22 PM |
#268 |
| -
Best response in this whole thread. nt |
Codeine |
May-11-11 07:24 PM |
#270 |
| -
Not as long as a good medium nib pen on paper feels as good as it does. |
patrice |
May-11-11 07:19 PM |
#267 |
| -
Heck no, it's distinctive, elegant, and fast. |
Owl |
May-11-11 07:23 PM |
#269 |
| -
As a protest against this, we should all start posting in Edwardian Script. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 07:36 PM |
#271 |
| -
Curses! I can set my browser to display in Edwardian Script ITC, but the font size is too small! |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 07:51 PM |
#278 |
| -
I generally use a blend of cursive and print |
fishwax |
May-11-11 07:44 PM |
#274 |
| -
When I was in 5th grade there was a penmanship contest & a girl in my class |
CrispyQ |
May-11-11 07:52 PM |
#279 |
| -
It never really caught on with me. My cursive script is the |
BobTheSubgenius |
May-11-11 08:04 PM |
#281 |
| -
Cursive writing has no utilility. |
Zanzoobar |
May-11-11 08:19 PM |
#282 |
| -
By what? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 09:37 PM |
#300 |
| -
By what, what? |
Zanzoobar |
May-11-11 09:53 PM |
#303 |
| -
It has been replaced by what? |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 09:57 PM |
#305 |
| -
Oh. |
Zanzoobar |
May-11-11 10:01 PM |
#307 |
| -
Sort of wild to live through an era where something that has been common for centuries |
salin |
May-11-11 09:06 PM |
#285 |
| -
I would call it depressing that we are living through both a Geological Extinction Event... |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 09:18 PM |
#290 |
| -
I have a hard time reading my step kids handwriting but they sure can text fast. |
Kaleva |
May-11-11 09:46 PM |
#301 |
| -
Somehow, all that cursive stuff and other subjects were fit in our.... |
pinniped |
May-11-11 09:54 PM |
#304 |
| -
I type everything. |
white_wolf |
May-11-11 10:13 PM |
#313 |
| -
Your English professors, sound pretty closed minded. But thanx for the anecdote |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 10:14 PM |
#314 |
| -
That sames like a bad attitude for a professor of history to take. |
white_wolf |
May-11-11 10:25 PM |
#318 |
| -
Yeah, that's what I thought. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 11:21 PM |
#325 |
| -
I rarely ever print. All cursive, all the time. I LIKE it. |
Lucinda |
May-11-11 10:25 PM |
#317 |
| -
Reminds me of that old Microsoft joke. |
Bonobo |
May-11-11 10:44 PM |
#321 |
| -
Oh, man, I am fighting the urge to make a "One Ring" joke. |
Leopolds Ghost |
May-11-11 11:33 PM |
#327 |
| -
this should not become illegible |
tiny elvis |
May-11-11 11:43 PM |
#328 |
| -
hand eye coordination, spatial reasoning, interpretation, artistic expression... |
NuttyFluffers |
May-12-11 12:48 AM |
#329 |
| -
I had it from grades 1-6 |
Blue_Tires |
May-12-11 06:42 AM |
#336 |
| -
I rarely write in cursive myself and I lean toward the "obsolete" camp. |
octothorpe |
May-12-11 07:28 AM |
#346 |
| -
How else would we write handwritten thank you notes? |
aikoaiko |
May-12-11 08:41 AM |
#348 |
| -
my husband prints only because |
MrsBrady |
May-14-11 09:55 AM |
#355 |
| -
BREAKING: Kids These Days Not Alright, Still On My Lawn (nt) |
Posteritatis |
May-14-11 10:27 AM |
#356 |
| -
When you ask for a signature and you see block letters |
thelordofhell |
May-14-11 11:30 AM |
#357 |
| -
When you ask for a signature and you see block letters |
thelordofhell |
May-14-11 11:30 AM |
#358 |
| -
I write in cursive all the time. |
themadstork |
May-14-11 11:37 AM |
#359 |
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