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| 110. "avoid the Social Wedge Issues" |
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Sadly, social issues tend to be the distinguishing feature between conservatives and liberals.
But I'll tell you one issue that absolutely has to be dumped from the Democratic Party Platform, especially for the South:
Gun Control
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| -The South is BEAUTIFUL, and belongs to us ALL. |
bvar22 |
May-09-11 02:22 PM |
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You got the wrong candidate for that approach |
notesdev |
May-09-11 02:30 PM |
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Exactly the kind of lecturing the OP said is counterproductive. |
Richardo |
May-09-11 02:35 PM |
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It's a very material problem |
notesdev |
May-09-11 02:38 PM |
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THAT has been a problem. |
bvar22 |
May-09-11 07:47 PM |
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still hoping forthat primary eh? keep waiting. |
dionysus |
May-10-11 11:58 AM |
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Never mind that it is the truth. nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
May-10-11 09:01 AM |
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Disassemble much? |
Raster |
May-10-11 11:05 AM |
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Dissemble, you mean? |
Richardo |
May-10-11 11:51 AM |
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Which is why we got President Bush, instead of President Gore. |
Zen Democrat |
May-09-11 03:28 PM |
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You still believe that, even now? |
notesdev |
May-09-11 04:08 PM |
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HELL YES! Believe it. Learn to vote with the fucking head instead of |
bluestate10 |
May-09-11 06:22 PM |
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40-60 years ago conservatives were not a majority |
rpannier |
May-10-11 09:08 AM |
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Err.. |
kenfrequed |
May-10-11 10:52 AM |
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Agreed completely. n/t |
Marr |
May-09-11 06:27 PM |
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Richard Shelby and the Republicans are saying no to her as we speak... |
Hippo_Tron |
May-09-11 10:05 PM |
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Let me get this straight... |
Blue-Jay |
May-10-11 09:20 AM |
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What ticked me off |
notesdev |
May-10-11 02:29 PM |
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You should start a thread about it. |
Blue-Jay |
May-10-11 02:31 PM |
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I should |
notesdev |
May-10-11 08:02 PM |
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The difference between a repubican and Democratic legislature in any state is really the . . . . |
Stinky The Clown |
May-09-11 02:30 PM |
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+1 |
Tuesday Afternoon |
May-10-11 09:26 AM |
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Nice post |
Richardo |
May-09-11 02:31 PM |
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GA made need more time |
lame54 |
May-09-11 02:31 PM |
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absolutely they are misled |
kick-ass-bob |
May-09-11 02:31 PM |
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You know, I don't think it's the mountain and rural folk that are of biggest concern. |
Shagbark Hickory |
May-09-11 02:37 PM |
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Spot ON!!! |
think4yourself |
May-10-11 05:37 AM |
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ding ding ding |
wilt the stilt |
May-10-11 05:57 AM |
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that would require a non-Wall Street party |
MisterP |
May-09-11 02:41 PM |
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i agree with you, the south is too beautiful to lose |
rl6214 |
May-09-11 02:43 PM |
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Love your hollyhocks.. n/t |
SoCalDem |
May-09-11 03:04 PM |
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Large LOL |
wilt the stilt |
May-09-11 03:24 PM |
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what? |
Chiquitita |
May-09-11 07:55 PM |
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No such thing when I was a student there |
cordelia |
May-10-11 05:28 AM |
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In the greeks which is big time in Athens |
wilt the stilt |
May-10-11 05:32 AM |
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Have you ever read the Flagpole? |
Chiquitita |
May-10-11 09:06 AM |
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Robert E Lee's birthday is an offical state holiday in Georgia. |
Synicus Maximus |
May-10-11 01:45 PM |
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What do you mean by "avoid the social wedge issues"? |
pnwmom |
May-09-11 03:42 PM |
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Simple. |
bvar22 |
May-09-11 07:58 PM |
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Excellent way to put it. |
freshwest |
May-10-11 12:31 AM |
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They would choose "Gays can't get married" |
MNBrewer |
May-10-11 06:40 AM |
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"They" would, huh? |
PVnRT |
May-11-11 07:03 AM |
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"NEEDS to be able to point to where they have stood up for Working Americans" |
pintobean |
May-09-11 03:53 PM |
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I have never been to the south, unless you count Texas, but I would like to visit. |
krabigirl |
May-09-11 04:00 PM |
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I'm from the South. I miss the Blue Ridge. |
Solly Mack |
May-09-11 04:10 PM |
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i love food and history so i think i would love the south |
JI7 |
May-09-11 04:15 PM |
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Thanks anyway...I'd rather send the few bucks I can spare somewhere there is hope. |
RagAss |
May-09-11 04:26 PM |
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The south will stay lost until the "social wedge issues" stop working |
eallen |
May-09-11 04:48 PM |
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K&R! A great Post...and thanks for sharing that! |
KoKo |
May-09-11 05:38 PM |
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If Democrats want to win in the South, they need to be working the churches |
Taverner |
May-09-11 05:44 PM |
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They work the churches plenty |
Hippo_Tron |
May-09-11 10:12 PM |
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Georgia is going nowhere blue anytime soon. |
onehandle |
May-09-11 06:06 PM |
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I will always be proud of being Southern!! |
stuntcat |
May-09-11 06:11 PM |
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OK, but |
DonCoquixote |
May-09-11 06:23 PM |
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Charlotte isn't a Southern city |
taterguy |
May-09-11 06:27 PM |
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The poster seems stuck in the past. There are dark blue patches in North Carolina, |
bluestate10 |
May-09-11 06:36 PM |
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North Carolina has one of the biggest democratic Congressional delegations. |
bluestate10 |
May-09-11 06:33 PM |
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I agree with you |
madokie |
May-09-11 06:36 PM |
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Function not data. |
RandomThoughts |
May-09-11 06:38 PM |
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Whatever happened to Huey Long, anyway? |
Wednesdays |
May-09-11 07:10 PM |
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What happened to Huey? Go check out the bullet holes |
The Flaming Red Head |
May-10-11 03:10 PM |
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Beautiful garden |
TNLib |
May-09-11 07:13 PM |
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I fell in love with the Gulf region after vacationing there |
Generic Other |
May-09-11 07:17 PM |
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bravo! |
Snoutport |
May-09-11 07:18 PM |
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What does 'avoid social 'wedge issues' really mean? |
Bluenorthwest |
May-09-11 07:27 PM |
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It means, in the opinion of the OP and most southern dems, |
Moses2SandyKoufax |
May-09-11 07:38 PM |
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Obviously. But it is presented as 'they are not bigots' |
Bluenorthwest |
May-09-11 07:49 PM |
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I agree.... n/t |
Moses2SandyKoufax |
May-09-11 07:51 PM |
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I knew bvar22 before he moved South, and he is the farthest thing |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-10-11 01:15 AM |
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How can you campaign on economic populism |
Moses2SandyKoufax |
May-10-11 01:24 AM |
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If rural people see social issues as the ONLY focus of the Dems, then they have no reason to vote |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-10-11 09:05 AM |
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If they're "not bigoted" then focusing on social issues |
Moses2SandyKoufax |
May-10-11 03:00 PM |
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Those who are |
pecwae |
May-10-11 04:06 AM |
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Yep, keep calling Southerners bigoted right wing Baggers |
WolverineDG |
May-10-11 05:23 AM |
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Point proven. n/t |
cordelia |
May-10-11 05:32 AM |
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It would appear that there's only so much SAT TV and MTV... |
Smarmie Doofus |
May-10-11 05:27 AM |
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No he doesn't. Have you even read his other posts on this site |
PVnRT |
May-11-11 07:07 AM |
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I will support no Dems who aren't just "supportive" of gay rights |
MNBrewer |
May-10-11 06:30 AM |
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Or rural Minnesota |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-10-11 09:13 AM |
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Not most Southern Democrats |
era veteran |
May-10-11 08:05 AM |
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Wrong.... |
Moses2SandyKoufax |
May-10-11 03:04 PM |
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I was following the nature of the OP |
era veteran |
May-10-11 11:18 PM |
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I don't have a positive view of Southern California, either |
PVnRT |
May-11-11 07:07 AM |
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That's fine. Some people don't... |
Moses2SandyKoufax |
May-11-11 02:16 PM |
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Not at all. |
bvar22 |
May-10-11 11:27 AM |
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Avoiding "Social Wedge Issues" means running a SMART campaign. |
bvar22 |
May-10-11 11:19 AM |
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I see what you're saying, bvar |
Art_from_Ark |
May-09-11 08:05 PM |
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A glorious post - full of truth and things I can relate to and learn from. K&R |
Mira |
May-09-11 09:34 PM |
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It's really not that simple |
Hippo_Tron |
May-09-11 10:23 PM |
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Huey Long did. |
bvar22 |
May-10-11 11:35 AM |
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What's wrong with the South seceding? |
ErikJ |
May-09-11 10:24 PM |
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Epic. |
WilliamPitt |
May-09-11 10:28 PM |
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I don't think that he understands that, though the divide he is talking about exists,-- |
eridani |
May-09-11 11:20 PM |
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the problem with letting the South secede, |
provis99 |
May-10-11 01:10 AM |
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Name removed |
May-10-11 05:34 AM |
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That's neither liberal nor superb. It's stupid and cruel and smallminded. |
nolabear |
May-10-11 10:59 AM |
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You think another secession would be peaceful? Why? |
MicaelS |
May-10-11 12:02 PM |
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Yeah, and screw anyone who doesn't live in Perfect & Holy California |
PVnRT |
May-11-11 07:09 AM |
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Amen. |
WilliamPitt |
May-09-11 10:27 PM |
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I still think their iced tea sucks. |
AtheistCrusader |
May-10-11 12:16 AM |
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lol. Your tea sucks. |
kick-ass-bob |
May-10-11 12:27 PM |
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Beautiful. I would love that, nearly did it. But the people I knew there, after a while... |
freshwest |
May-10-11 12:44 AM |
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I could breath again in a place like that. |
gtar100 |
May-10-11 12:58 AM |
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united, We prosper. divided, Opportunists prosper. |
NuttyFluffers |
May-10-11 01:01 AM |
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Howard Dean knew this 7 years ago |
DFW |
May-10-11 03:36 AM |
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+1 for Dr. Dean and his 50-state strategy |
Patiod |
May-10-11 09:01 AM |
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K&R. (nt) |
Kurovski |
May-10-11 04:02 AM |
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It is beautiful. |
Hubert Flottz |
May-10-11 06:41 AM |
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The South is beautiful |
1gobluedem |
May-10-11 08:05 AM |
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And of course |
JustAmused |
May-10-11 08:42 AM |
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There is a massive fight against it and him |
1gobluedem |
May-10-11 10:04 AM |
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ARE YOU JOKING? |
aquart |
May-10-11 08:18 AM |
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This needs to be it's own thread |
Patiod |
May-10-11 09:02 AM |
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AMEN . The South remembers. Help them (us) remember the good. |
nolabear |
May-10-11 11:04 AM |
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I don't see how that differs from the substance of the OP. |
bvar22 |
May-10-11 11:46 AM |
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I agree. I am from Georgia originally. |
FourScore |
May-10-11 08:47 AM |
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SORRY, BUT NOT THE SOUTH I LIVE IN!!! |
SkyDaddy7 |
May-10-11 09:03 AM |
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20 miles south of Atlanta--you're in the white flight exurbs |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-10-11 09:15 AM |
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Well, I can also tell you that our chances diminish... |
SkyDaddy7 |
May-10-11 10:57 AM |
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I understand what you are saying |
edhopper |
May-10-11 09:16 AM |
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"the South" is not one place. |
AlbertCat |
May-10-11 09:23 AM |
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Thanks! |
earcandle |
May-10-11 10:19 AM |
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Agree, it is beautiful. I just don't like their politics. n/t |
Fire1 |
May-10-11 10:55 AM |
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This Old Southern Boy RECS your post. The South is BEAUTIFUL. Unfortunately, |
bertman |
May-10-11 10:55 AM |
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there are areas of the south that still elect democrats |
AlanCranston |
May-10-11 11:44 AM |
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If you call Heath Shuler anything but a Democrat-In-Name-Only you have not been |
bertman |
May-11-11 10:02 AM |
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even health shuler isn't as bad as a lot of the old dems |
AlanCranston |
May-11-11 07:58 PM |
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"avoid the Social Wedge Issues" |
Atypical Liberal |
May-10-11 12:00 PM |
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Open question: How do we make the South blue? |
Taverner |
May-10-11 12:01 PM |
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Economic Justice requires that we at least recognize that The South got dealt some dirt from the Rec |
patrice |
May-10-11 12:13 PM |
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Actually, Reconstruction was more Peace Corps and less Carpetbagger |
Taverner |
May-10-11 01:44 PM |
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Weren't they sold-out on some trade issues in exchange for a vote in support of the Impeachment of |
patrice |
May-10-11 02:43 PM |
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Great photos. |
burnsei sensei |
May-10-11 12:23 PM |
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*sigh* |
Roy Rolling |
May-10-11 02:01 PM |
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Thank you, bvar22! |
kentauros |
May-10-11 08:16 PM |
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