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122. I feel so sorry for his daughter. He must have been abusing her for years. nt
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  -Columbia professor arrested for incest with daughter cowcommander  Dec-13-10 01:17 AM   #0 
  - I wasn't expecting the alleged incest to begin when she was 20 years old.  ZombieHorde   Dec-13-10 01:20 AM   #1 
  - Minors are the most vulnerable, but MacKenzie Philips is an example of  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 02:07 AM   #6 
  - what we all mess out on is the years as a child and teen in manipulation,  seabeyond   Dec-13-10 10:45 AM   #86 
     - Excellent points. nt  ZombieHorde   Dec-13-10 12:22 PM   #99 
  - Two consenting adults. nt  guruoo   Dec-13-10 01:26 AM   #2 
  - I hope that's sarcasm.  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 02:08 AM   #7 
  - Do not think so...  Rebubula   Dec-13-10 09:00 AM   #58 
  - you took the saying "incest is best" to heart didn't you  snooper2   Dec-13-10 10:16 AM   #77 
  - I could see this law, when applied to two consenting and mentally competent adults, being...  Poll_Blind   Dec-13-10 01:38 AM   #3 
  - That's what I was thinking---the law may be overturned concerning consenting adults? nt  Mist   Dec-13-10 01:58 AM   #5 
  - Good grief. no.  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 02:22 AM   # 
  - No, anymore than when a 10 year old "consents" to sex./  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 02:09 AM   #8 
  - I don't think it can be looked at as consenting adults.  hardcover   Dec-13-10 02:14 AM   #9 
     - + 1 and welcome to DU  no_hypocrisy   Dec-13-10 06:09 AM   #40 
  - Consenting adults sure, but....  Arrowhead2k1   Dec-13-10 01:40 AM   #4 
  - Agreed...This is truly in "sickening". n/t  whathehell   Dec-13-10 05:42 AM   #37 
     - Disgusting  connecticut yankee   Dec-13-10 07:47 AM   #50 
        - Yup.  whathehell   Dec-13-10 07:51 AM   #51 
  - ONE count? Three years, one count? How does that happen. For a sexual relationship to be said  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 02:18 AM   #10 
  - Stupid law. Why wasn't the daughter charged?  Behind the Aegis   Dec-13-10 02:22 AM   #11 
  - The law refuses to recognize "consent" in some cases--and for very good reasons.  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 02:28 AM   #12 
  - So both should have been charged? Neither?  Behind the Aegis   Dec-13-10 02:30 AM   #13 
  - Apparently the idea is that there's an inappropriate power relationship  Capitalocracy   Dec-13-10 02:47 AM   #14 
  - There is a huge problem though.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-13-10 02:55 AM   #16 
     - And you don't think "consent" can be the result of power?  aquart   Dec-13-10 03:32 AM   #21 
     - You bet I am fucking serious.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-13-10 03:37 AM   #22 
     - these cases aren't all that unusual  cali   Dec-13-10 04:28 AM   #30 
     - Then, it is an imbalanced law.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-13-10 04:41 AM   #32 
        - maybe. I don't think so  cali   Dec-13-10 05:07 AM   #33 
           - You seem not to know much by your comments.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-13-10 05:13 AM   #35 
     - Umm  Recursion   Dec-13-10 09:00 AM   #59 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-13-10 02:59 AM   #17 
  - Because fucking your kids is something society frowns upon  snooper2   Dec-13-10 10:44 AM   # 
     - Society has specific rules about who can fuck whom  marshall   Dec-14-10 06:03 PM   #120 
  - How disappointing that you find this thread "messed up". Life may not be quite as cut and dried as  rhett o rick   Dec-13-10 09:04 AM   #61 
  - The charge isn't rape; "consent" isn't the legally operative fact, therefore.  Romulox   Dec-13-10 10:58 AM   #93 
  - Because all women should be treated as "victims" according to some people.  Democat   Dec-13-10 03:01 AM   #18 
  - BS.  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 03:18 AM   #19 
  - +1  Celebration   Dec-13-10 08:55 AM   #57 
  - Not the same thing. To say that there was an imbalance of power in this relationship  ehrnst   Dec-13-10 07:20 AM   #43 
  - So your argument is that relationships shouldnt be allowed if there is an imbalance of power?  rhett o rick   Dec-13-10 09:01 AM   #60 
  - Perhaps the way that it's measured by psychologists that ban  ehrnst   Dec-13-10 01:37 PM   #101 
  - Well, I make double what my fiance makes.  blueamy66   Dec-13-10 09:44 AM   #73 
  - This would apply to mother and son just as well. (nt)  ehrnst   Dec-13-10 07:34 AM   #47 
  - Clinton is not blood-related to, let alone the sire of, Ms. Lewinsky.  WinkyDink   Dec-13-10 09:18 AM   #66 
  - as president he might have been slightly more powerful than a mere intern  pitohui   Dec-13-10 03:18 PM   #105 
  - yes, imagine thinking that a child raised by a man willing to have sex with his child  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-13-10 09:41 AM   #72 
  - I agree  Alcibiades   Dec-13-10 11:02 AM   #96 
     - had this been mother and child, i would have supported prosecution for just the mother too  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-13-10 01:26 PM   #100 
     - His age is listed as 46. Hers supposedly is 24.  LisaL   Dec-13-10 04:14 PM   #113 
  - But then again, according to "some" people...  whathehell   Dec-13-10 10:48 AM   #88 
  - Have you heard of "parent-child"? The former is FOREVER considered the authority-figure.  WinkyDink   Dec-13-10 09:17 AM   #65 
  - Maybe a deal, due to agreeing to testify against him.  treestar   Dec-13-10 11:00 AM   #94 
  - Lack of consent.  Statistical   Dec-14-10 06:08 PM   #121 
  - ewww  trud   Dec-13-10 02:52 AM   #15 
  - I agree, a 20 year old is very young and still very much dependent  hardcover   Dec-13-10 03:29 AM   #20 
  - So basically, rewrite the laws of consent where your morals are offended.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-13-10 03:41 AM   #23 
  - Huh?  Prophet 451   Dec-13-10 03:56 AM   #26 
     - 20 millenia ago  trud   Dec-13-10 07:09 AM   #41 
  - What an odd case  Prophet 451   Dec-13-10 03:49 AM   #24 
  - +1 !  Behind the Aegis   Dec-13-10 03:54 AM   #25 
  - Thank you  Prophet 451   Dec-13-10 04:02 AM   #27 
     - Your's is the best post in the thread.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-13-10 04:12 AM   #28 
        - Oh, my opinion was negative too  Prophet 451   Dec-13-10 04:21 AM   #29 
           - Right there with ya!  Behind the Aegis   Dec-13-10 04:35 AM   #31 
  - No, we're not assuming that they can never be equals  cali   Dec-13-10 05:10 AM   #34 
  - Hang on  Prophet 451   Dec-13-10 06:02 AM   #39 
  - You are asserting the daughter can never consent, so therefore you claim they are never equals  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-13-10 08:54 AM   #56 
     - No, they're simply not equal in this specific part of their relationship  cali   Dec-13-10 09:20 AM   #68 
        - "not equal in this specific part" means "not equal"  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-13-10 10:37 AM   #82 
  - Good analysis.  TexasObserver   Dec-13-10 05:42 AM   #38 
  - prison term  trud   Dec-13-10 07:12 AM   #42 
  - Ok, but...  Prophet 451   Dec-13-10 07:23 AM   #44 
  - Thank you for this very rational post.  distantearlywarning   Dec-13-10 09:40 AM   #71 
  - ew, but it shouldn't be a jailable offence if it didn't involve a minor and was otherwise consensual  eShirl   Dec-13-10 05:21 AM   #36 
  - Should it be legislated between adults? What if it were 25 year old siblings?  stray cat   Dec-13-10 07:28 AM   #45 
  - It started when she was 21 years old  FreakinDJ   Dec-13-10 07:29 AM   #46 
  - I wondered why this would generate such Big Media hoopla  Doctor_J   Dec-13-10 07:37 AM   #48 
  - More information at link ...  SlimJimmy   Dec-13-10 07:39 AM   #49 
  - Every society needs some taboos,  sulphurdunn   Dec-13-10 08:06 AM   #52 
  - Because the thought makes you uncomfortable?  AngryAmish   Dec-13-10 08:27 AM   #54 
     - You post as though you are unaware of the concept of "cultural mores".  WinkyDink   Dec-13-10 09:16 AM   #64 
     - How "comfortable" are you with the thought?  whathehell   Dec-13-10 10:44 AM   #85 
        - Very uncomfortable  AngryAmish   Dec-13-10 10:48 AM   #87 
           - I'm glad to hear it.  whathehell   Dec-13-10 10:52 AM   #90 
  - There are no can this even be discussed? n/t  proReality   Dec-13-10 08:16 AM   #53 
  - Well, for starters here's the picture of the father and daughter  cowcommander   Dec-13-10 08:44 AM   #55 
     - 4chan or not...  Rebubula   Dec-13-10 09:06 AM   #62 
        - I dunno, it looks like him when he was thinner  cowcommander   Dec-13-10 09:22 AM   #69 
           - But the woman looks to be in her late teens early twenties and the man  LisaL   Dec-13-10 04:44 PM   #115 
  - Interesting topic and I am disappointed in those that think the topic doesnt deserve discussion.  rhett o rick   Dec-13-10 09:13 AM   #63 
  - "the ordeal" & "respected member of the academic community"..  SoCalDem   Dec-13-10 09:19 AM   #67 
  - Do some people NOT GET that the parent-child relationship has SPECIAL ATTRIBUTES, AND THUS TABOOS??  WinkyDink   Dec-13-10 09:27 AM   #70 
  - The law against incest has nothing to do with "power" or "consent"  Schema Thing   Dec-13-10 09:48 AM   #74 
     - "Possibly" ?.....The taboo is universal and ancient and in place  whathehell   Dec-14-10 05:52 AM   #116 
  - Epstein is a big name in political science  Alcibiades   Dec-13-10 09:55 AM   #75 
  - what special relationship? they speak of "biological" father  pitohui   Dec-13-10 03:27 PM   #106 
     - He's her father. No "sperm donor", no "adoptive"---her FATHER. And the "special" simply means that  WinkyDink   Dec-14-10 06:08 AM   #119 
  - What everyone is dancing around is the comparison between this crime and adult homosexuality  AngryAmish   Dec-13-10 10:08 AM   #76 
  - Funny, I Thought We Were Dancing Around the Big Hedge Fund Guy Who's Not In Jail  NashVegas   Dec-13-10 10:22 AM   #78 
  - I trust that you don't have any daughters?  Alcibiades   Dec-13-10 10:32 AM   #80 
  - it said he was his biological father, there's no evidence he raised this girl  pitohui   Dec-13-10 03:31 PM   #107 
  - A parent child relationship doesn't stop just because a child  LisaL   Dec-13-10 11:04 AM   #97 
  - Currently loving this thread  NuclearDem   Dec-13-10 10:30 AM   #79 
  - Father daughter incest is more common than is publicly known. I am not shocked  conspirator   Dec-13-10 10:33 AM   #81 
  - er, yes it is a crime.  cali   Dec-13-10 10:38 AM   #83 
  - Not a crime according to my good sense. I am not saying is a good thing either  conspirator   Dec-13-10 11:01 AM   #95 
  - And your conclusion is based on...?  whathehell   Dec-13-10 10:42 AM   #84 
  - Incest certainly is a crime.  LisaL   Dec-13-10 10:57 AM   #91 
  - just a thought. to look at a child as potential sex partner has to create certain behaviors ....  seabeyond   Dec-13-10 10:50 AM   #89 
  - The incest taboo is one of the most ancient in human civilization.  Romulox   Dec-13-10 10:57 AM   #92 
  - A case of "Genetic Sexual Attraction"?  marshall   Dec-13-10 11:38 AM   #98 
  - He could be referred to as her biological father  LisaL   Dec-13-10 04:04 PM   #110 
  - I am repulsed and thoroughly unsurprised that DU thinks incest is a-okay  WildEyedLiberal   Dec-13-10 01:56 PM   #102 
  - and you thought YOU were a wild eyed liberal, lmao.  seabeyond   Dec-13-10 02:33 PM   #104 
  - Do not think...  Rebubula   Dec-13-10 03:34 PM   #109 
  - Of all the chicks in the world, he picks his DAUGHTER?  Vickers   Dec-13-10 02:00 PM   #103 
  - sounds like she picked him...adopted child seeks out "biological" father, hilarity ensues  pitohui   Dec-13-10 03:33 PM   #108 
     - Whatever makes you think she was in fact adopted.  LisaL   Dec-13-10 04:07 PM   #111 
     - There is no "adopted" here.  WinkyDink   Dec-14-10 06:04 AM   #117 
  - Not that I condone this relationship, this IS a relationship between adults, right?  cleanhippie   Dec-13-10 04:07 PM   #112 
  - Because incest is illegal.  LisaL   Dec-13-10 04:14 PM   #114 
  - See my post #70. And drop the disingenuousness.  WinkyDink   Dec-14-10 06:05 AM   #118 
  - I feel so sorry for his daughter. He must have been abusing her for years. nt  Liquorice   Dec-14-10 06:35 PM   #122 

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