Reply #54: Thank you for a better response.

[lepus]

Rice only grows in limited areas. While it is an export, it does not make up near the kilocalories that would be required to feed the population.

Your navy would predominately be made up of red staters. Do you think they would allow them to be used against their kinsmen?

While you have oil, California has done little to make use of it. How much of your fuel is imported?

I like goat cheese and have raised goats. But cheese will not feed your population.

You have the greatest coast land in the world darn near. It is pristine in many places and beautiful. You have great port cities. Do you think that the red states would not use deterrence to render them useless?

You have a lot of pasture land. Based on the last estimate I saw, it takes roughly 30 acres or more of California pasture land without feed or supplemented hay to raise a cow. Oklahoma it only takes six. Many of the red states can produce cattle far better and cheaper than California can.

Sorry to say it, but if there is a civil war redux, California will end up folding fast. This is not a comment against the quality of your farmers,people, or politics, but against population density, environment, and existing infrastructure.

I have said it before and will say it again. CWII would be bad for all involved. I can understand state pride getting in the way of reality, but as I see it, California is unsustainable without imports unless the population is reduced by a lot.

As many idiots as I see in my own red state advocating secession, I really do not want more idiots in the blue states egging them on. It would be bad for all concerned in the long run.