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38. The private corporations vying for that power are a problem.
Edited on Sun Jan-02-11 11:39 AM by The Backlash Cometh
The one I'm following donated to Republicans in one of the most corrupt counties in Central Florida. In a county which believes in Southern good ole boy methods that take the power away from the people. In a county that puts that power in the hands of the most greediest, autocratic bullies they can find that will tow their lines. Yeah, that's better.
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  -ACLU has growing database of TSA patdown descriptions too graphic for public airwaves Liberal_in_LA  Jan-01-11 07:59 PM   #0 
  - And some here still say: "Anything to be safe!"  GoneOffShore   Jan-01-11 08:09 PM   #1 
  - isnt it amazing. just amazing. but have other stories and the compassions pours out.  seabeyond   Jan-01-11 08:27 PM   #4 
  - +100  Aleric   Jan-02-11 10:52 AM   #40 
  - And some have said it's no big deal since you let your doctor touch you there...  KansDem   Jan-02-11 01:18 PM   #66 
  - Yeah, but doctors say for them, it's like washing dishes. These guys are voyeurs or worse.  freshwest   Jan-02-11 02:34 PM   #98 
  - No they don't  saras   Jan-02-11 08:17 PM   #134 
  - I have no respect and little care for the people who remain accepting of this national indignity  Stinky The Clown   Jan-02-11 07:31 PM   #129 
  - This level of indignity, amazingly to me, was put in place by a Democratic administration.  Stinky The Clown   Jan-02-11 07:36 PM   #130 
     - When it first becme obvious that Obama's progressive stance, on display constantly  truedelphi   Jan-02-11 08:11 PM   #133 
  - Good germans all. nm  Richard Steele   Jan-02-11 11:11 PM   #145 
  - K & R !  pnorman   Jan-01-11 08:23 PM   #2 
  - This problem is not going to go away & likely to get worse...  hlthe2b   Jan-01-11 08:26 PM   #3 
  - This is why I've given up travel  SoCalNative   Jan-01-11 08:37 PM   #5 
  - I must fly for a job interview n/t  adamuu   Jan-02-11 06:45 PM   #126 
  - I'm amazed at how some will argue that we "give up" constitutional rights when we fly.  Matariki   Jan-01-11 08:40 PM   #6 
  - That is the most absurd statement I have heard in awhile. n/t  Aleric   Jan-02-11 10:52 AM   #39 
  - No, Matariki is spot on,  MsPithy   Jan-02-11 11:00 AM   #41 
     - So explain it to me.  Aleric   Jan-02-11 11:10 AM   #44 
        - No one is magically shielded from rapists and burglars, in a word, criminals.  MsPithy   Jan-02-11 11:26 AM   #51 
        - the difference is you giving up your rights vs someone violating them nt  LSK   Jan-02-11 12:14 PM   #55 
        - I think your definition of Inalienable Rights needs some clarification.  TalkingDog   Jan-02-11 12:42 PM   #60 
           - No one mentioned inalienable rights  Aleric   Jan-02-11 12:55 PM   #62 
           - Er no, natural rights and inalienable rights are the same thing.  Warren Stupidity   Jan-02-11 01:08 PM   #65 
           - Philosophers and Political Scientists are not lawyers  Aleric   Jan-02-11 01:23 PM   #69 
           - And that doesn't mean jack shit in terms of who is actually RIGHT from an ethical point of view  Downtown Hound   Jan-02-11 01:29 PM   #71 
           - And ethics have little to do with law enforcement  Aleric   Jan-02-11 02:03 PM   #80 
              - Well, in this case, I'm talking about both  Downtown Hound   Jan-02-11 02:14 PM   #86 
              - I never tried to justify the TSA  Aleric   Jan-02-11 02:16 PM   #88 
                 - Then what the fuck are you trying to do here?  Downtown Hound   Jan-02-11 02:19 PM   #90 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-02-11 02:32 PM   #94 
                       - How do you think a woman's right to control what enters her um, private parts  Downtown Hound   Jan-02-11 02:34 PM   #96 
                       - I answered that question, you didn't read it. n/t  Aleric   Jan-02-11 02:45 PM   #101 
                          - And as I said, your answer was a bunch of gibberish  Downtown Hound   Jan-02-11 02:48 PM   #103 
                       - Ignored  snort   Jan-02-11 07:57 PM   #131 
                       - Oooo - jumping to the personal attack because your argument sucks is  Maru Kitteh   Jan-03-11 12:10 AM   #153 
              - I will probably regret this,  MsPithy   Jan-02-11 02:31 PM   #93 
                 - Sorry, I should avoid that word  Aleric   Jan-02-11 02:42 PM   #99 
           - what?  Warren Stupidity   Jan-02-11 01:31 PM   #72 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-02-11 01:35 PM   #73 
              - No, it's not  Aleric   Jan-02-11 02:01 PM   #79 
                 - Um, yes it is.  Downtown Hound   Jan-02-11 02:12 PM   #84 
                    - wait, now you gravity *is* a right when I agreed with you? Wtf?  Aleric   Jan-02-11 02:15 PM   #87 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-02-11 02:17 PM   #89 
                          - where you wrote 'um, yes it is'  Aleric   Jan-02-11 02:44 PM   #100 
                             - When I said, gavity is simply a force, you said, "no it's not."  Downtown Hound   Jan-02-11 02:46 PM   #102 
           - I agree with you, except for a matter of phrasing that is small but essential.  MsPithy   Jan-02-11 01:39 PM   #74 
           - legal rights can overlap natural rights  Warren Stupidity   Jan-02-11 01:46 PM   #77 
              - Respectfully, I must insist,  MsPithy   Jan-02-11 02:22 PM   #91 
                 - Actually it is frequently both.  Warren Stupidity   Jan-02-11 03:05 PM   #105 
                    - I agree that Scalia is not the first idiot  MsPithy   Jan-02-11 03:39 PM   #113 
           - "inalienable" or "unalienable."  MsPithy   Jan-02-11 03:12 PM   #107 
           - Your whole argument seems to be based on the fact  Downtown Hound   Jan-02-11 01:22 PM   #68 
           - "But you can't do that!"  Aleric   Jan-02-11 01:56 PM   #78 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-02-11 02:10 PM   #83 
           - DUDE, seriously? gravity?  MsPithy   Jan-02-11 01:26 PM   #70 
           - Wrong, You just described Unalienable. Inalienable and Unalienable have different meaning.  AtheistCrusader   Jan-02-11 08:04 PM   #132 
              - I stand corrected. I did indeed mean unalienable rights.  TalkingDog   Jan-03-11 01:03 AM   #157 
                 - I could have been a little more polite about that, sorry.  AtheistCrusader   Jan-03-11 03:44 PM   #169 
                    - Da Nada  TalkingDog   Jan-04-11 10:14 AM   #176 
  - You are sooo right!  MsPithy   Jan-02-11 11:14 AM   #45 
  - This is sadistic abuse  somone   Jan-01-11 08:48 PM   #7 
  - TSA will tell you they are following whatever it is TSA tells them to do.  LisaL   Jan-02-11 02:27 AM   #17 
  - I've said this before. Al Qaeda says "Boo!" and the US shits it's pants  lunatica   Jan-01-11 08:48 PM   #8 
  - If she was truly concerned about terrorists she'd preside over the  LibDemAlways   Jan-01-11 09:37 PM   #9 
  - The private corporations vying for that power are a problem.  The Backlash Cometh   Jan-02-11 10:48 AM   #38 
     - I'm not suggesting we privatize it. Only that the current  LibDemAlways   Jan-02-11 11:18 AM   #47 
        - Without question.  The Backlash Cometh   Jan-02-11 11:39 AM   #54 
  - Who appointed her? Bush?  mikehiggins   Jan-02-11 10:10 AM   #35 
  - Singling out Napolitano  Can of Whoop-ass   Jan-02-11 10:26 AM   #37 
  - No, the PTB are using terrorism as a boogyman to scare us into accepting a police state.  Odin2005   Jan-02-11 11:13 PM   #146 
  - I'm glad the ACLU is gathering the information. I hope they  LibDemAlways   Jan-01-11 09:38 PM   #10 
  - I don't know what aclu is waiting for.  LisaL   Jan-01-11 11:20 PM   #14 
     - They're looking for something that would be clearly unconstitutional, and overturn prior law.  boppers   Jan-02-11 02:37 AM   #18 
        - Well, from your link:  LisaL   Jan-02-11 02:44 AM   #19 
           - It sounds like a generic full pat-down to me, not a strip search.  boppers   Jan-02-11 03:07 AM   #20 
              - I agree with you, regarding possible perception vs. reality, to a point...  TeeYiYi   Jan-02-11 09:34 AM   #32 
              - The difference is  Aleric   Jan-02-11 12:42 PM   #61 
                 - Google "Administrative Search Doctrine"  boppers   Jan-02-11 08:23 PM   #135 
                    - Well,  LisaL   Jan-02-11 10:11 PM   #139 
                       - From the same link:  boppers   Jan-02-11 10:44 PM   #141 
                          - Both the shoe bomber and underwear bomber got onto the planes,  LisaL   Jan-02-11 11:10 PM   #143 
                             - Timeline is everything.  boppers   Jan-03-11 06:21 AM   #164 
                                - I used to think that cavity searches was a far fetched idea, but  LisaL   Jan-03-11 09:04 AM   #166 
  - The TSA is using a threat of sexual assault to force people into their new machines, period.  DirkGently   Jan-01-11 10:55 PM   #11 
  - +1  KeepItReal   Jan-01-11 11:05 PM   #13 
  - this is my airport fantasy:  barbtries   Jan-02-11 07:53 AM   #26 
  - Mine is to wear a kilt with nothing on beneath...  primavera   Jan-02-11 09:54 AM   #33 
     - lol  barbtries   Jan-02-11 11:25 AM   #50 
     - Making the TSA squirm is a start. 8) Lawsuits and assault charges should follow.  DirkGently   Jan-02-11 05:31 PM   #123 
  - Absolutely correct.  Warren Stupidity   Jan-02-11 01:19 PM   #67 
  - Wonder what they'll do to my 75 year old mother, who CAN'T go thru the machines...  eowyn_of_rohan   Jan-02-11 02:25 PM   #92 
     - Enhanced pat down.  LisaL   Jan-02-11 04:31 PM   #122 
     - Or my friend with cerebral palsy who is also a rape survivor.  Odin2005   Jan-02-11 11:16 PM   #147 
  - time to send my contribution to the ACLU.  bbgrunt   Jan-01-11 10:58 PM   #12 
  - I'd ask them first if they plan to do anything about it,  LisaL   Jan-02-11 02:12 PM   #85 
  - Wouldn't this situation would be perfect for civil disobedience, if  snot   Jan-02-11 01:22 AM   #15 
  - Some who underwent these "enhanced pat downs" have  LisaL   Jan-02-11 02:18 AM   #16 
  - in another thread someone suggested singing  mopinko   Jan-02-11 08:07 AM   #27 
     - I think we should sing "Toucha Toucha Toucha Feel Me"  csziggy   Jan-03-11 01:13 AM   #158 
  - Gee, whiz. We flew over the Holidays, and maybe we got lucky, but everything was fine.  Warren DeMontague   Jan-02-11 03:56 AM   #21 
  - Just wait til they grope your child...  grahamhgreen   Jan-02-11 09:10 AM   #31 
     - I saw TSA manhandling a child that couldn't have been more than 18 mos.  proReality   Jan-02-11 10:19 AM   #36 
     - I saw equally terrible abuse of an elderly woman in a wheelchair. She  LibDemAlways   Jan-02-11 11:26 AM   #52 
     - They'd likely do an enhanced pat down on someone like her  LisaL   Jan-02-11 02:06 PM   #82 
     - Shocking story!  grahamhgreen   Jan-02-11 03:18 PM   #110 
     - i'm not surprised but i am angry  CreekDog   Jan-02-11 11:50 PM   #151 
     - Shocking story!  grahamhgreen   Jan-02-11 03:18 PM   #109 
     - I'm just reporting what I saw, Jack.  Warren DeMontague   Jan-02-11 03:30 PM   #112 
        - it's gotten far worse to be patted down or inspected over the past couple years  CreekDog   Jan-02-11 11:49 PM   #150 
           - I'm sorry that my experience doesn't conform to your expectations.  Warren DeMontague   Jan-03-11 12:48 AM   #156 
              - how about forced x-rays?  CreekDog   Jan-03-11 03:37 AM   #159 
                 - What are you talking about?  Warren DeMontague   Jan-03-11 03:54 AM   #160 
                    - CastScope --you cannot opt out of it  CreekDog   Jan-03-11 03:59 AM   #161 
                       - I think I must have said about 10 times in this subthread, that this is my personal experience.  Warren DeMontague   Jan-03-11 04:03 AM   #162 
                          - No you said i was making it up  CreekDog   Jan-03-11 05:00 AM   #163 
                             - Where did I say you were making anything up? I never said that. I said I wasn't aware of a non-opt  Warren DeMontague   Jan-03-11 02:55 PM   #167 
                                - Well you kept denying it, here with your "throwing stuff at the wall" comment  CreekDog   Jan-03-11 03:02 PM   #168 
                                   - I know exactly what I wrote. First off, I said "as far as I'm aware". Like I said, I  Warren DeMontague   Jan-03-11 03:50 PM   #170 
                                      - you mean you didn't see any pat-downs?  CreekDog   Jan-03-11 03:56 PM   #171 
                                         - No. Actually, I did not see a single pat-down.  Warren DeMontague   Jan-03-11 04:04 PM   #172 
  - Excuse me???  Le Taz Hot   Jan-02-11 06:26 AM   #22 
  - The funniest thing is hearing white people say there's no problem because THEY never had one. nt  Bonobo   Jan-02-11 07:02 AM   #23 
  - people who don't go through it all the time or at all say it's okay for me to go through it  CreekDog   Jan-02-11 11:46 PM   #149 
  - My sister travels all over the country. She always travels 1st class.  fasttense   Jan-02-11 07:26 AM   #24 
  - I have never seen a seperate screening lane for first class.  NutmegYankee   Jan-02-11 08:12 AM   #28 
  - Yes, first class has their own lines in most cases  grahamhgreen   Jan-02-11 09:09 AM   #30 
  - Hubby is platinum level, first class - different line, same security  Justitia   Jan-02-11 08:30 PM   #136 
  - i think  barbtries   Jan-02-11 07:50 AM   #25 
  - Her boss, should be fired  Aleric   Jan-02-11 11:03 AM   #43 
     - +1000!  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-02-11 11:15 AM   #46 
     - i've written to the president about it.  barbtries   Jan-02-11 11:25 AM   #49 
     - Have you gotten a meaningful reply?  Aleric   Jan-02-11 12:39 PM   #59 
        - form letters at best  barbtries   Jan-02-11 01:41 PM   #75 
     - This "shit" stared under bush  Angry Dragon   Jan-02-11 12:31 PM   #56 
        - Not the scanners, not the groping.  Aleric   Jan-02-11 12:38 PM   #58 
        - Off the TSA website  Angry Dragon   Jan-02-11 01:07 PM   #64 
           - yep.  barbtries   Jan-02-11 01:45 PM   #76 
        - Well Obama clearly supports it. If I recall correctly he said  LisaL   Jan-02-11 02:05 PM   #81 
  - These people are disgusting, perverted, sick and unconstitutional.  grahamhgreen   Jan-02-11 09:06 AM   #29 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-02-11 10:08 AM   #34 
  - Not legal period!  BlueJac   Jan-02-11 11:01 AM   #42 
  - I'm hoping the ACLU will take action against those searches.  Lucian   Jan-02-11 11:22 AM   #48 
  - So, get on with it ACLU.  pecwae   Jan-02-11 11:29 AM   #53 
  - Take some action - now.... yes nt  seabeyond   Jan-02-11 12:34 PM   #57 
  - I feel so much safer.  Warren Stupidity   Jan-02-11 01:03 PM   #63 
  - on purpose  Locrian   Jan-02-11 02:33 PM   #95 
  - TSA worker statements of "we dont like this either" is bullshit  pasto76   Jan-02-11 02:34 PM   #97 
  - pat down photo of the day - TSA takes a peek down the pants  Liberal_in_LA   Jan-02-11 03:01 PM   #104 
  - Some of those photos are very disturbing.  Blue_In_AK   Jan-02-11 03:15 PM   #108 
  - You have to wonder what the hell is the  LibDemAlways   Jan-02-11 03:40 PM   #114 
  - I'd rather be unemployed  mrfrapp   Jan-02-11 04:13 PM   #120 
  - Just what the hell was that small child supposed to be hiding? This is madness.  truebrit71   Jan-03-11 04:19 PM   #173 
     - The presumption of innocence, which is at the very heart of  LibDemAlways   Jan-03-11 06:25 PM   #175 
  - K&R  Pooka Fey   Jan-02-11 03:09 PM   #106 
  - Sometimes I think we deserve this for being so stupid. nt  ZombieHorde   Jan-02-11 03:29 PM   #111 
  - Speak for yourself.  whathehell   Jan-02-11 05:34 PM   #124 
  - Where are the class action lawsuits because this shit is unconstitutional as hell!  earth mom   Jan-02-11 03:40 PM   #115 
  - given what's happened i wonder if the TSA has a Don't Ask Don't Tell policy  alp227   Jan-02-11 03:48 PM   #116 
  - These abuses sound like they are coming from a small group of deviants who  bertman   Jan-02-11 04:08 PM   #117 
  - No it doesn't.  LisaL   Jan-02-11 04:27 PM   #121 
  - If this crap was not being tolerated or even condoned at the highest  LibDemAlways   Jan-02-11 06:22 PM   #125 
     - Your statement might be more accurate if you said "to my knowledge, no one  bertman   Jan-02-11 09:56 PM   #137 
        - I'll amend my statement to "No one in the federal government is publicly  LibDemAlways   Jan-02-11 10:03 PM   #138 
        - Obama was very public in his support of TSA.  LisaL   Jan-02-11 10:15 PM   #140 
           - He has supported every single intrusion into Americans' private lives that I  bertman   Jan-03-11 08:12 AM   #165 
  - The only thing that stops this  customerserviceguy   Jan-02-11 04:09 PM   #118 
  - Check the Resume of the First TSA Administrator  LarryNM   Jan-02-11 04:13 PM   #119 
  - Many vow not to fly any more, the best way to combat this stupidity.  sarcasmo   Jan-02-11 06:47 PM   #127 
  - Yep, hit the airlines where it hurts. If people gave up discretionary  LibDemAlways   Jan-02-11 06:54 PM   #128 
  - every TSA person who does not refuse to perform this BS is complicit is sexual assult.  Odin2005   Jan-02-11 11:07 PM   #142 
  - Americans are nuts to let this go on ... especially based on the farce of an "underwear" bomber!!!  defendandprotect   Jan-02-11 11:11 PM   #144 
  - I am not sure but what exactly do you think we can do to stop it?  LisaL   Jan-02-11 11:44 PM   #148 
     - Let's see ... how about "just say NO" -- ????  defendandprotect   Jan-03-11 12:03 AM   #152 
        - Well that certianly has not happened (at least in large numbers).  LisaL   Jan-03-11 12:11 AM   #154 
           - Notice that no one is giving leadersip to resistance ... obviously, no one  defendandprotect   Jan-03-11 12:19 AM   #155 
  - Fuck sakes... Does TSA mean SS in German?  Glassunion   Jan-03-11 06:05 PM   #174 

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