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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 10:35 AM
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92. Do you believe the Republicans would have kept this secret overnight?

If you don't, then do you believe that Republicans and the media would not be screaming bloody murder at Obama for refusing to talk immediately?

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  -White House botched communications on the OBL killing Bragi  May-04-11 08:57 AM   #0 
  - Did you watch Rachel last nite? If not, you should. She does a whole segment on  jillan   May-04-11 08:59 AM   #1 
  - This is the fault of the media period.  RegieRocker   May-04-11 09:01 AM   #4 
  - No, not really. Brennan gave out information that was wrong.  EFerrari   May-04-11 12:33 PM   #128 
  - That was an excellent job by her (as usual)  Ohio Joe   May-04-11 09:01 AM   #6 
  - Nothing new -- Churchill said 'A lie can get halfway around the world before  KurtNYC   May-04-11 09:27 AM   #36 
     - yes, i recall that quote or something along those lines.  iwishiwas   May-04-11 10:32 AM   #91 
  - Won't happen. Can't challenge the narrative. even if it was a good piece. nt  blondeatlast   May-04-11 09:01 AM   #7 
  - it wont make him feel better. we should be clever enough, experienced enough to already "get it"  seabeyond   May-04-11 09:10 AM   #24 
  - Where did I say Obama is "evil" or "a liar"?  Bragi   May-04-11 10:06 AM   #69 
  - This isn't about "reporting"  Bragi   May-04-11 09:45 AM   #54 
  - WHO is the source sunday night. a name. who is it.  seabeyond   May-04-11 10:24 AM   #85 
  - It didn't need to be reported "while it's developing." They delayed the reporting for a significant  WinkyDink   May-04-11 02:18 PM   #135 
  - You "therefore blame the White House?"  MineralMan   May-04-11 08:59 AM   #2 
  - remember....  dennis4868   May-04-11 09:01 AM   #5 
     - Only by some.  MineralMan   May-04-11 09:03 AM   #12 
  - Okay.....  dennis4868   May-04-11 09:00 AM   #3 
  - For once I'll agree with you  Armstead   May-04-11 09:05 AM   #15 
     - I don't see how facts bear you out  Bragi   May-04-11 10:10 AM   #72 
        - It's not what would come up overnightv  Armstead   May-04-11 11:04 AM   #111 
  - Very well argued. Recced.  leveymg   May-04-11 09:02 AM   #8 
  - "monumental and egregious incompetence". That's a whole lot of incompetence.  Buzz Clik   May-04-11 09:02 AM   #9 
  - "White House botched communications on the OBL killing  ProSense   May-04-11 09:03 AM   #10 
  - As I said, the bigger the achievement, the more the griping.  Solomon   May-04-11 10:02 AM   #64 
  - What a fucking joke.  JTFrog   May-04-11 09:03 AM   #11 
  - Oh for pete's sake. nt  woo me with science   May-04-11 09:04 AM   #13 
  - Confess- You were looking for anything to blame on the Obama White House. ANYTHING.  KittyWampus   May-04-11 09:04 AM   #14 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-04-11 09:13 AM   #27 
  - DU is running out of sharks to jump.  The Velveteen Ocelot   May-04-11 09:05 AM   #16 
  - Breaking news is NEVER accurate.  Richardo   May-04-11 09:06 AM   #17 
  - Getting the story out to the press was not "monumental".  Ganja Ninja   May-04-11 09:06 AM   #18 
  - yes, it was monumentally botched  Bragi   May-04-11 09:16 AM   #30 
     - Go sell crazy some place else. n/t  Ganja Ninja   May-04-11 09:25 AM   #33 
        - Why have you no argument to make?  Bragi   May-04-11 09:33 AM   #42 
           - I have no argument because you have no valid charges.  Ganja Ninja   May-04-11 11:14 AM   #113 
              - You wrote:  Bragi   May-04-11 11:33 AM   #118 
  - Piffle...nt  SidDithers   May-04-11 09:08 AM   #19 
  - the misinformation started with "an official FAMILIAR with the situation wanting anonymity"  seabeyond   May-04-11 09:09 AM   #20 
  - Oh, Bullshit. The tendency of Democrats/left-leaning folks to so quickly turn on their own and be  Pirate Smile   May-04-11 09:09 AM   #21 
  - Gosh, you're all correct and I'm wrong  Bragi   May-04-11 09:10 AM   #22 
  - ya... pretty damn clear we are right and you are wrong, but you will continue with your trashing  seabeyond   May-04-11 09:11 AM   #25 
  - It was a triumph I tell ya!  Bragi   May-04-11 09:19 AM   #31 
     - you read the article i gave you and you say.... what is the relevance. official familiar with  seabeyond   May-04-11 09:25 AM   #34 
     - I didn't call them liars  Bragi   May-04-11 09:27 AM   #38 
        - the know nothing is your incredible lack of ability to get evolving story and how all stories  seabeyond   May-04-11 09:29 AM   #40 
           - The WH was too eager to announce immediately  Bragi   May-04-11 09:38 AM   #46 
              - some anonymous official in the unknown is the whitehouse? nt  seabeyond   May-04-11 09:44 AM   #53 
              - where is YOUR responsibility at looking at sources. where is MEDIA responsiblity  seabeyond   May-04-11 09:46 AM   #55 
     - sarcasm is the least efficient form of communication and it requires  KurtNYC   May-04-11 09:34 AM   #44 
  - Straw man.  The Velveteen Ocelot   May-04-11 09:16 AM   #28 
  - I respecfully disagree  Bragi   May-04-11 09:24 AM   #32 
     - Then it's obvious you haven't dealt with communicating through too many complex situations  uponit7771   May-04-11 09:41 AM   #49 
        - That's not actually so  Bragi   May-04-11 09:48 AM   #57 
  - responding to your own post is very unattractive.  Javaman   May-04-11 09:28 AM   #39 
  - "Gosh, you're all correct and I'm wrong" correct. "Obama is still perfect" no one said that.  dionysus   May-04-11 10:00 AM   #62 
  - Geez, cut the whining. Its unbecoming.  phleshdef   May-04-11 10:12 AM   #73 
  - A bit martyrish  treestar   May-04-11 10:21 AM   #82 
  - Awwww. Did the mean people disagreeing with you hurt your feelings?...nt  SidDithers   May-04-11 10:43 AM   #100 
  - get used to it  Teaser   May-04-11 10:43 AM   #101 
  - Another rhetorical triumph for DU  WilliamPitt   May-04-11 10:44 AM   #102 
  - I read an awful lot of outlandishly fantastic CT crap right here yesterday.  DCKit   May-04-11 09:10 AM   #23 
  - The only thing botched is Al. So now put that in your pipe and smoke it.  lonestarnot   May-04-11 09:12 AM   #26 
  - "when you trust you television, what get is what you got  KurtNYC   May-04-11 09:16 AM   #29 
  - botched? bwahahahahahaaa  spanone   May-04-11 09:26 AM   #35 
  - fail. peddle this someplace else. nt  Javaman   May-04-11 09:27 AM   #37 
  - The fact remains: We got him! Obama put his arse on the line and he now deserves credit for it..  MatthewStLouis   May-04-11 09:31 AM   #41 
  - I never said otherwise  Bragi   May-04-11 10:02 AM   #65 
  - It wasn't that the White House botched the news  LiberalFighter   May-04-11 09:33 AM   #43 
  - Nah, it's Obama's fault.....he let Bambi get killed so to some folk he aint ish  uponit7771   May-04-11 09:43 AM   #52 
  - The official story should have been this:  SoCalDem   May-04-11 09:36 AM   #45 
  - Agreed.  Bragi   May-04-11 09:52 AM   #58 
  - Yup,  ProSense   May-04-11 10:17 AM   #77 
  - All the OP is saying is that the WH looks bad for having to change such a major facet of the story  CrossChris   May-04-11 09:39 AM   #47 
  - Who said that facet was major, also...people on DU nick pick the WH all the time about stupid shit.  uponit7771   May-04-11 09:42 AM   #51 
  - Whether OBL was armed or not is a major facet to the story & the mission.  CrossChris   May-04-11 09:47 AM   #56 
  - Good question  Bragi   May-04-11 09:56 AM   #59 
  - because people are looking for ways for wh to look bad. unreasonably refusing  seabeyond   May-04-11 10:27 AM   #88 
     - But the official wasn't anonymous. It was WH Counterterrorism Advisor John Brennan.  CrossChris   May-04-11 10:31 AM   #90 
        - that was monday morning. i am talking about the initial person who first gave info  seabeyond   May-04-11 10:36 AM   #93 
           - No, Brennan gave the incorrect info.  CrossChris   May-04-11 10:39 AM   #95 
              - yes. and monday night, that same day... obama corrected him.  seabeyond   May-04-11 10:45 AM   #103 
              - here is what i am talking about. someone familiar (not in the know). sunday night  seabeyond   May-04-11 10:48 AM   #106 
  - No.  Robb   May-04-11 09:39 AM   #48 
  - I very much disagree  Bragi   May-04-11 09:59 AM   #61 
     - "Botching" would imply something bad happened as a result of the communication.  Robb   May-04-11 11:56 AM   #122 
        - Something bad did happen. Not only Arab, but Euro news outlets are doubting our story.  CrossChris   May-04-11 12:20 PM   #126 
  - Its call Monday morning quarterbacking & unnamed sources....  Historic NY   May-04-11 09:42 AM   #50 
  - what a steaming pile of garbage.  dionysus   May-04-11 09:59 AM   #60 
  - Excellent argument  Bragi   May-04-11 10:01 AM   #63 
     - steaming garbage is a correct description of your OP.  dionysus   May-04-11 10:03 AM   #66 
        - Now why not put forth an argument of your own that shows how the WH DIDN'T botch communications  CrossChris   May-04-11 10:06 AM   #70 
        - Very impressive indeed!  Bragi   May-04-11 10:12 AM   #74 
        - I feared I might have to do this  Bragi   May-04-11 10:36 AM   #94 
           - you're not making an argument, you're grasping at straws to continue your campaign against the  dionysus   May-04-11 11:03 AM   #110 
              - My campaign against the administration?  Bragi   May-04-11 11:26 AM   #117 
  - You should write for Fox News  Lisa D   May-04-11 10:04 AM   #67 
  - Right, because any criticism of the WH is unfair, if not treasonous  Bragi   May-04-11 10:13 AM   #75 
  - They had to rush the story because the East Coast was starting to go to bed.  JVS   May-04-11 10:06 AM   #68 
  - Why would you rush such an important story when you know details will be scrutinized?  CrossChris   May-04-11 10:09 AM   #71 
     - Because thats the way it pretty much goes down with all big events like this.  phleshdef   May-04-11 10:16 AM   #76 
     - What big events have been comparable to this? Seems getting details right would have top priority  CrossChris   May-04-11 10:26 AM   #87 
        - I've yet to experience one major news event where conflicting stories were not present.  phleshdef   May-04-11 10:40 AM   #97 
     - I agree with you. And the talk of the developing story doesn't quite wash.  JVS   May-04-11 10:19 AM   #79 
     - I think that "risk" was unnecessary  Bragi   May-04-11 10:31 AM   #89 
     - Quite so!  Bragi   May-04-11 10:19 AM   #80 
  - So what? Obama got Osama.  treestar   May-04-11 10:19 AM   #78 
  - How do we know that with the story changing all the time?  Bragi   May-04-11 10:21 AM   #83 
  - And unfortuately, the Repugs are always good at messenging.  iwishiwas   May-04-11 10:21 AM   #81 
  - But our side could get better  Bragi   May-04-11 10:23 AM   #84 
  - YAWN.....ho hum ho hum.....  cliffordu   May-04-11 10:25 AM   #86 
  - Do you believe the Republicans would have kept this secret overnight?  ieoeja   May-04-11 10:35 AM   #92 
  - How would anyone beat the WH to the story?  Bragi   May-04-11 10:40 AM   #98 
     - You believe keeping it secret from Congress would have been better?!?  ieoeja   May-04-11 11:12 AM   #112 
     - I don't think Congerssional leaders were informed  Bragi   May-04-11 11:22 AM   #115 
        - Congressional leaders were informed.  ieoeja   May-04-11 01:01 PM   #129 
           - Please note the subject line of the OP  Bragi   May-04-11 02:14 PM   #134 
     - Is it possible that Al-Jazeera could have pre-empted the WH with a totally fabricated story  cherokeeprogressive   May-04-11 12:07 PM   #125 
  - Pfft. Weaksauce.  AtomicKitten   May-04-11 10:40 AM   #96 
  - The social narratives of a thing sometimes get a higher priority than the thing itself.  LanternWaste   May-04-11 10:41 AM   #99 
  - is this all you could find to bitch about?  ReturnoftheDjedi   May-04-11 10:48 AM   #104 
  - I don't think so. If communication was botched a bit, it is a sin on the order of using the wrong  yurbud   May-04-11 10:48 AM   #105 
  - That's exactly the point -- it won't be forgotten  Bragi   May-04-11 10:52 AM   #108 
  - How the WH changed its story  Bragi   May-04-11 10:50 AM   #107 
  - "How the story changed"  ProSense   May-04-11 10:56 AM   #109 
  - Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad  JoePhilly   May-04-11 11:14 AM   #114 
  - Another fabulous argument!  Bragi   May-04-11 11:23 AM   #116 
  - I matched my argument to the level of the OP. Drivel gets drivel.  JoePhilly   May-04-11 11:47 AM   #119 
     - You are indeed impressive!  Bragi   May-04-11 11:51 AM   #121 
        - A picture speaks 1000 words, thus the smilies. You used many words to say nothing.  JoePhilly   May-04-11 11:58 AM   #123 
  - i mean fuck the misison that could have gone wrong in so very many many ways  seabeyond   May-04-11 11:50 AM   #120 
     - Exactly  JoePhilly   May-04-11 02:13 PM   #133 
  - This post makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a dirty spork. n/t  cherokeeprogressive   May-04-11 12:03 PM   #124 
  - Rational people are concerned with the decision and results  alcibiades_mystery   May-04-11 12:21 PM   #127 
  - lol.  Raffi Ella   May-04-11 01:12 PM   #130 
  - POST OF THE DAY!  A-Schwarzenegger   May-04-11 01:32 PM   #131 
  - Yeah, whatever.  guruoo   May-04-11 01:40 PM   #132 
  - Honestly who cares the guys as dead as Julius Cesar and that is all that matters in the end  TNLib   May-04-11 02:25 PM   #136 

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