PeaceNikki
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Tue May-03-11 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #39 |
| 40. Optiscans are run through the machine |
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It tabulates total votes and counts in each race.
The bag in Chenequa is an example of exactly how one would have to manipulate in order to commit fraud. Every suspicious bag has reconciled with election night/canvass totals.
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| -Wisconsin Recount - Another Chain of Custody Problem in Waukesha County -This makes *4* |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 07:43 AM |
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K&R for the continuing incompetence in commiting election fraud. |
DCKit |
May-03-11 07:55 AM |
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We also had a bag on Saturday with no signatures on it. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 07:58 AM |
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So many human "errors" .... |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 08:20 AM |
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Only if replaced ballots match altered Optiscan from election night |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 08:23 AM |
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That is true. -nt |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 08:34 AM |
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NOT impossible, just much more difficult to pull off. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 08:37 AM |
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Yes, it would be tricky |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 08:43 AM |
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It would be an awful lot of work for a very small gain. |
FBaggins |
May-03-11 10:03 AM |
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That's where my brain goes in all of this. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 10:12 AM |
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So is there documentation of the vote count on the night of the election? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 10:14 AM |
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Yes, we reconcile to those tapes. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 10:17 AM |
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A change of 10 ballots per precinct in Wisconsin = 36,300 votes |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 10:38 AM |
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or 75 votes per precinct in Waukesha County (194 precincts) = 14550 votes |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 10:40 AM |
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Recent Waukesha County election results |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 10:54 AM |
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I spoke to that a bit here. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 11:00 AM |
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With all due respect, this is your impression but I don't believe it is proven fact |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 11:10 AM |
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It's proven fact that there are few unions and few public sector employees. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 11:15 AM |
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Sure... but how many precincts have there been problems in? |
FBaggins |
May-03-11 12:07 PM |
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Yes. If only we had more volunteers in each county we might know the answer to that |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-04-11 07:22 AM |
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NO IT WOULDN'T |
Lefta Dissenter |
May-03-11 08:00 PM |
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+1000 |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 11:32 PM |
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OK, in that case, how would they get the total votes to match the poll books? |
PeaceNikki |
May-04-11 01:39 PM |
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What are your poll books like? |
gkhouston |
May-05-11 09:11 PM |
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Is anyone checking them against the original records? |
defendandprotect |
May-05-11 08:52 PM |
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Is that technically a chain of custody problem? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 09:47 AM |
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I think so, but I am not an attorney nor do I play one on TV. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:49 AM |
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Sure is. There is a procedure that is supposed to take place |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 10:46 AM |
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hi there! |
Lefta Dissenter |
May-03-11 08:08 PM |
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So they've had bags without signatures, bags without seals, and bags whose |
gkhouston |
May-03-11 08:16 AM |
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We're only about 10% counted so that's tough to tell at this point. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 08:32 AM |
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Wow. Granted, you've only done 10%, but still. n/t |
gkhouston |
May-03-11 08:36 AM |
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The total # of votes in those bags is still WAY too small to be alarming... |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 08:41 AM |
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Good that this judge seems to be handling this appropriately! -nt |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 08:45 AM |
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Yes, the numbers are small so far, but the odds of all the "problem children" |
gkhouston |
May-03-11 09:07 AM |
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Agreed. But also understand how difficult it would be to coordinate a tamper in every municipality. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:09 AM |
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It hasn't happened in every municipality, though - just 4 as of now |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 09:23 AM |
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I agree, but we've only counted 5 municipalities. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:35 AM |
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We're doing the same thing... |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 09:41 AM |
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Indeed. Multiple perspectives are important. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:44 AM |
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which manicupality did you count that didn't have one of these bags? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 09:50 AM |
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Eagle. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:51 AM |
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Good to know |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 09:53 AM |
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I saw and photographed small tears in some bags, none big enough for that |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:59 AM |
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are they also checking the vote counts for other races? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 10:05 AM |
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No, we're only counting SC race. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 10:14 AM |
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Maybe. I also don't understand how that original count is documented |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 10:21 AM |
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Optiscans are run through the machine |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 10:25 AM |
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how do you verify that the print out is the one that was created on election night |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 10:28 AM |
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It's all part of the chain of custody, yes. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 10:31 AM |
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who conduced the canvass the day after? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 10:36 AM |
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It was the Board of Canvassers. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 10:51 AM |
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Do you know who the other 2 were? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 10:56 AM |
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Yes, I see them every day. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 11:01 AM |
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I am sure they are very nice, but Ramona admitted that she was kind of blindsided by Kathy and the |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 11:06 AM |
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NONE of the issues found in recount have squat to do with canvass errors. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 11:08 AM |
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so the tapes are kept outside of the bags until after the canvass? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 11:08 AM |
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They are secured. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 11:09 AM |
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thank you for being so nice and answering my questions |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 11:12 AM |
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Correct. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 11:13 AM |
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The tapes don't have to be modified after election night. |
gkhouston |
May-03-11 01:29 PM |
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i am concerned that false tapes could be produced |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 04:04 PM |
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I'm not sure. At least one per tabulator, and I would think that |
gkhouston |
May-03-11 04:14 PM |
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If the tabulator can be hacked... |
druidity33 |
May-04-11 06:53 AM |
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PN, |
Lefta Dissenter |
May-03-11 08:10 PM |
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It's ABOUT 1500 at this point |
PeaceNikki |
May-04-11 01:35 PM |
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IMO it is to the point where ballots should not be included if the chain of custody is broken |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 08:32 AM |
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Again, the Optiscans from election night would have had to have been altered first. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 08:36 AM |
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Again, that is true. |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 08:37 AM |
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There needs to be another election with adult supervision. |
Hubert Flottz |
May-03-11 08:22 AM |
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Here is how *I* would steal an election (not that I ever would). Please tell me this would not work. |
Ian David |
May-03-11 08:52 AM |
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You'd also have to sneak the tapes from the scanner into the mix. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 08:56 AM |
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What if you wheeled the machine into the polling place during the last hour? n/t |
Ian David |
May-03-11 08:59 AM |
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I would hope that the local clerk and/or election inspector and/or poll workers would notice such a |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:00 AM |
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Maybe it's been sloppy enough that they wouldn't notice an extra set of tapes in the mix? |
LiberalAndProud |
May-03-11 09:27 AM |
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Thats just weird! |
Ellipsis |
May-03-11 12:25 PM |
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Come on! You know the only voter fraud is perpetrated by fake and dead "Democrats"! |
WinkyDink |
May-03-11 12:27 PM |
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Some folks need to be chained and taken into the custody of we, the people imo k&r n/t |
bobthedrummer |
May-03-11 12:41 PM |
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I'll K&R that post! |
Lefta Dissenter |
May-03-11 08:17 PM |
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I say give Kathy Nickolaus a lie detector test |
Blue Owl |
May-03-11 03:25 PM |
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Another weird bag |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 03:58 PM |
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what is wrong with that one? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 04:05 PM |
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It's not closed/sealed properly |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 04:08 PM |
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oh, I see |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 04:08 PM |
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Thanks for keeping us up to date. |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 04:22 PM |
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BINGO |
Lefta Dissenter |
May-03-11 08:19 PM |
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Nikki, is that bag the one from district 3? |
Cieran_WI |
May-04-11 09:54 AM |
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There were 423 ish votes in that bag. It was from |
PeaceNikki |
May-04-11 01:35 PM |
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deleted, dupe. n/t |
Cieran_WI |
May-04-11 09:56 AM |
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Election fraud is not a partisan issue. No transparency = no |
texpatriot2004 |
May-03-11 10:55 PM |
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I'm heading for Milwaukee for a couple days |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-04-11 11:15 AM |
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Milwaukee has a higher than average number of ballots with |
gkhouston |
May-05-11 09:19 PM |
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