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Tue May-03-11 09:07 AM
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| 20. Yes, the numbers are small so far, but the odds of all the "problem children" |
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being encountered in one clump seem low. I'm glad the judge's patience is wearing thin. The first bag or two, you think, "yeah, elections aren't 100.00% accurate, but they're usually nowhere near close enough to matter". This far into the game, they're probably starting to cringe every time they reach for a new bag.
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| -Wisconsin Recount - Another Chain of Custody Problem in Waukesha County -This makes *4* |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 07:43 AM |
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K&R for the continuing incompetence in commiting election fraud. |
DCKit |
May-03-11 07:55 AM |
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We also had a bag on Saturday with no signatures on it. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 07:58 AM |
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So many human "errors" .... |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 08:20 AM |
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Only if replaced ballots match altered Optiscan from election night |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 08:23 AM |
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That is true. -nt |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 08:34 AM |
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NOT impossible, just much more difficult to pull off. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 08:37 AM |
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Yes, it would be tricky |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 08:43 AM |
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It would be an awful lot of work for a very small gain. |
FBaggins |
May-03-11 10:03 AM |
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That's where my brain goes in all of this. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 10:12 AM |
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So is there documentation of the vote count on the night of the election? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 10:14 AM |
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Yes, we reconcile to those tapes. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 10:17 AM |
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A change of 10 ballots per precinct in Wisconsin = 36,300 votes |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 10:38 AM |
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or 75 votes per precinct in Waukesha County (194 precincts) = 14550 votes |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 10:40 AM |
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Recent Waukesha County election results |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 10:54 AM |
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I spoke to that a bit here. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 11:00 AM |
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With all due respect, this is your impression but I don't believe it is proven fact |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 11:10 AM |
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It's proven fact that there are few unions and few public sector employees. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 11:15 AM |
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Sure... but how many precincts have there been problems in? |
FBaggins |
May-03-11 12:07 PM |
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Yes. If only we had more volunteers in each county we might know the answer to that |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-04-11 07:22 AM |
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NO IT WOULDN'T |
Lefta Dissenter |
May-03-11 08:00 PM |
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+1000 |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 11:32 PM |
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OK, in that case, how would they get the total votes to match the poll books? |
PeaceNikki |
May-04-11 01:39 PM |
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What are your poll books like? |
gkhouston |
May-05-11 09:11 PM |
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Is anyone checking them against the original records? |
defendandprotect |
May-05-11 08:52 PM |
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Is that technically a chain of custody problem? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 09:47 AM |
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I think so, but I am not an attorney nor do I play one on TV. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:49 AM |
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Sure is. There is a procedure that is supposed to take place |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 10:46 AM |
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hi there! |
Lefta Dissenter |
May-03-11 08:08 PM |
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So they've had bags without signatures, bags without seals, and bags whose |
gkhouston |
May-03-11 08:16 AM |
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We're only about 10% counted so that's tough to tell at this point. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 08:32 AM |
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Wow. Granted, you've only done 10%, but still. n/t |
gkhouston |
May-03-11 08:36 AM |
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The total # of votes in those bags is still WAY too small to be alarming... |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 08:41 AM |
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Good that this judge seems to be handling this appropriately! -nt |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 08:45 AM |
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Yes, the numbers are small so far, but the odds of all the "problem children" |
gkhouston |
May-03-11 09:07 AM |
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Agreed. But also understand how difficult it would be to coordinate a tamper in every municipality. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:09 AM |
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It hasn't happened in every municipality, though - just 4 as of now |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 09:23 AM |
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I agree, but we've only counted 5 municipalities. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:35 AM |
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We're doing the same thing... |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 09:41 AM |
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Indeed. Multiple perspectives are important. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:44 AM |
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which manicupality did you count that didn't have one of these bags? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 09:50 AM |
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Eagle. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:51 AM |
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Good to know |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 09:53 AM |
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I saw and photographed small tears in some bags, none big enough for that |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:59 AM |
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are they also checking the vote counts for other races? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 10:05 AM |
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No, we're only counting SC race. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 10:14 AM |
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Maybe. I also don't understand how that original count is documented |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 10:21 AM |
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Optiscans are run through the machine |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 10:25 AM |
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how do you verify that the print out is the one that was created on election night |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 10:28 AM |
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It's all part of the chain of custody, yes. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 10:31 AM |
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who conduced the canvass the day after? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 10:36 AM |
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It was the Board of Canvassers. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 10:51 AM |
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Do you know who the other 2 were? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 10:56 AM |
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Yes, I see them every day. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 11:01 AM |
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I am sure they are very nice, but Ramona admitted that she was kind of blindsided by Kathy and the |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 11:06 AM |
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NONE of the issues found in recount have squat to do with canvass errors. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 11:08 AM |
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so the tapes are kept outside of the bags until after the canvass? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 11:08 AM |
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They are secured. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 11:09 AM |
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thank you for being so nice and answering my questions |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 11:12 AM |
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Correct. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 11:13 AM |
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The tapes don't have to be modified after election night. |
gkhouston |
May-03-11 01:29 PM |
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i am concerned that false tapes could be produced |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 04:04 PM |
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I'm not sure. At least one per tabulator, and I would think that |
gkhouston |
May-03-11 04:14 PM |
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If the tabulator can be hacked... |
druidity33 |
May-04-11 06:53 AM |
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PN, |
Lefta Dissenter |
May-03-11 08:10 PM |
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It's ABOUT 1500 at this point |
PeaceNikki |
May-04-11 01:35 PM |
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IMO it is to the point where ballots should not be included if the chain of custody is broken |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 08:32 AM |
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Again, the Optiscans from election night would have had to have been altered first. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 08:36 AM |
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Again, that is true. |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-03-11 08:37 AM |
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There needs to be another election with adult supervision. |
Hubert Flottz |
May-03-11 08:22 AM |
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Here is how *I* would steal an election (not that I ever would). Please tell me this would not work. |
Ian David |
May-03-11 08:52 AM |
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You'd also have to sneak the tapes from the scanner into the mix. |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 08:56 AM |
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What if you wheeled the machine into the polling place during the last hour? n/t |
Ian David |
May-03-11 08:59 AM |
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I would hope that the local clerk and/or election inspector and/or poll workers would notice such a |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 09:00 AM |
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Maybe it's been sloppy enough that they wouldn't notice an extra set of tapes in the mix? |
LiberalAndProud |
May-03-11 09:27 AM |
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Thats just weird! |
Ellipsis |
May-03-11 12:25 PM |
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Come on! You know the only voter fraud is perpetrated by fake and dead "Democrats"! |
WinkyDink |
May-03-11 12:27 PM |
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Some folks need to be chained and taken into the custody of we, the people imo k&r n/t |
bobthedrummer |
May-03-11 12:41 PM |
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I'll K&R that post! |
Lefta Dissenter |
May-03-11 08:17 PM |
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I say give Kathy Nickolaus a lie detector test |
Blue Owl |
May-03-11 03:25 PM |
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Another weird bag |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 03:58 PM |
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what is wrong with that one? |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 04:05 PM |
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It's not closed/sealed properly |
PeaceNikki |
May-03-11 04:08 PM |
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oh, I see |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 04:08 PM |
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Thanks for keeping us up to date. |
jsamuel |
May-03-11 04:22 PM |
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BINGO |
Lefta Dissenter |
May-03-11 08:19 PM |
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Nikki, is that bag the one from district 3? |
Cieran_WI |
May-04-11 09:54 AM |
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There were 423 ish votes in that bag. It was from |
PeaceNikki |
May-04-11 01:35 PM |
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deleted, dupe. n/t |
Cieran_WI |
May-04-11 09:56 AM |
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Election fraud is not a partisan issue. No transparency = no |
texpatriot2004 |
May-03-11 10:55 PM |
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I'm heading for Milwaukee for a couple days |
eowyn_of_rohan |
May-04-11 11:15 AM |
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Milwaukee has a higher than average number of ballots with |
gkhouston |
May-05-11 09:19 PM |
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