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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:38 AM
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1. And there ya go.....
Summed up in a couple of words.
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  -Richard Clarke: Osama Bin Ladin's Death is a "Propaganda Victory" Kurovski  May-03-11 05:37 AM   #0 
  - And there ya go.....  Sherman A1   May-03-11 05:38 AM   #1 
  - "emotionally satisfying" but...  Kurovski   May-03-11 05:41 AM   #2 
  - We can't give up the security state. Too profitable.  mmonk   May-03-11 05:44 AM   #3 
  - You got it!! And too useful for others, politically.  Distant Observer   May-03-11 05:53 AM   #6 
  - Damn right. Shortly after Osama's demise was announced, the  LibDemAlways   May-03-11 02:14 PM   #55 
  - Good morning sunshine.  myrna minx   May-03-11 05:52 AM   #4 
  - I have mixed feelings about Clarke.  mmonk   May-03-11 06:03 AM   #9 
     - I agree with you that he's a complicated man- but this place has been so hostile lately  myrna minx   May-03-11 06:07 AM   #11 
        - That's entirely proper.  mmonk   May-03-11 06:17 AM   #14 
        - Good morning. I made us some eggs with mushrooms and marjoram.  Kurovski   May-03-11 06:47 AM   #19 
           - Merci! - and you always make the best coffee too.  myrna minx   May-03-11 08:10 AM   #32 
              - My beloved...  Kurovski   May-03-11 08:20 AM   #34 
  - A "propanganda victory" may be significant given that propaganda is an important AQ tactic.  DCBob   May-03-11 05:53 AM   #5 
  - One can hope. The most important thing would be to get bases out of Arab nations  Kurovski   May-03-11 07:26 AM   #25 
  - Clarke discounts that certain beatific/voodoo charisma that Bin Laden held over the stupids  Kolesar   May-03-11 05:59 AM   #7 
  - Is this a fucking joke?  JVS   May-03-11 06:06 AM   #10 
  - Maybe you want to read that again?  MattSh   May-04-11 02:21 AM   #63 
  - I thought Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was the mastermind of that.  mmonk   May-03-11 06:09 AM   #12 
  - I thought I read it in a novel.  Kurovski   May-03-11 06:43 AM   #18 
  - There have been various so-called "masterminds"  Art_from_Ark   May-03-11 06:55 AM   #22 
  - I think he was a good leader and trainer.  Kurovski   May-03-11 08:23 AM   #35 
  - K&R  Solly Mack   May-03-11 05:59 AM   #8 
  - Let's not forget: We participated in the creation of bin Laden, the terrorist  Distant Observer   May-03-11 06:13 AM   #13 
  - Yes, and all because we couldn't enjoy a nice night at the Bolshoi with our Ruski neighbors.  Kurovski   May-03-11 06:53 AM   #21 
     - and that, in a nutshell, is the basis of our major problems n/t  RainDog   May-03-11 02:09 PM   #53 
  - Interesting interview - thank you for posting  rosesaylavee   May-03-11 06:30 AM   #15 
  - Information would possibly help with security.  Kurovski   May-03-11 06:59 AM   #23 
     - Hope you are right about Americans pushing to get out.  mmonk   May-03-11 10:10 AM   #47 
        - I assumed that's what much of the celebration was about. No VE day, but it looked like one.  Kurovski   May-03-11 01:38 PM   #48 
  - In the short term I agree, but in the long term I disagree,  Motown_Johnny   May-03-11 06:34 AM   #16 
  - That's a good point.  Kurovski   May-03-11 08:26 AM   #36 
  - Not sure about that  malaise   May-03-11 06:38 AM   #17 
  - Shows Bush was more concerned with his war on terror pretext  mmonk   May-03-11 06:49 AM   #20 
  - or that lovely profitable  malaise   May-03-11 07:54 AM   #27 
  - If I didn't know better, I'd say It looks like Bush was very nice to Osama BL.  Kurovski   May-03-11 07:16 AM   #24 
     - Good Morning Comrade Leader  malaise   May-03-11 07:52 AM   #26 
        - Your thoughts seem to align somewhat with mine.  Kurovski   May-03-11 08:02 AM   #28 
           - Well Bush is the only one who hasn't crawled out yet  malaise   May-03-11 08:06 AM   #30 
              - He's practicing not sounding like a blazing asshole.  Kurovski   May-03-11 08:18 AM   #33 
  - Immediately following 9/11, Clarke's voice was the ONLY voice I trusted.  PassingFair   May-03-11 08:03 AM   #29 
  - So very many people were grateful for him stepping up.  Kurovski   May-03-11 08:29 AM   #37 
  - 95% of what we see is propaganda  Keith Bee   May-03-11 08:07 AM   #31 
  - Maybe for folks to calm down? Start thinking about what's next.  Kurovski   May-03-11 08:31 AM   #38 
     - I'm ruminating about the possible ramifications for the Pakistani military if they were found to be  myrna minx   May-03-11 08:38 AM   #39 
        - What if he was protected by Bushcos goons  malaise   May-03-11 08:50 AM   #40 
           - My friend and I were discussing this last night -  myrna minx   May-03-11 09:01 AM   #41 
  - I doubt Clarke's position is as simplistic as that headline  emulatorloo   May-03-11 09:10 AM   #42 
  - You are correct. and it is only four minutes long.  Kurovski   May-03-11 01:50 PM   #50 
  - Important victories are often propaganda victories as well  WatsonT   May-03-11 09:24 AM   #43 
  - it's also a strategic and psychological victory  spanone   May-03-11 09:34 AM   #44 
  - Yes, as he says it feels good. After all these years to get him is great  Kurovski   May-03-11 02:00 PM   #51 
  - Information gotten off the computers there might be very helpful strategically.  KittyWampus   May-03-11 09:40 AM   #45 
  - Yes. President Obama chose plan "B" which was riskier than plan "A"  Kurovski   May-03-11 01:46 PM   #49 
  - Well, a Pyrrhic victory is better than no victory at all...I guess.  Tierra_y_Libertad   May-03-11 09:53 AM   #46 
  - Russia is the reason America trained obama to be the military man he was in the first place.  Kurovski   May-03-11 02:05 PM   #52 
  - If "propaganda" convinces the next 12 year old not to strap bombs to himself, I'll fucking take it  alcibiades_mystery   May-03-11 02:11 PM   #54 
  - Well said...  JuniperLea   May-03-11 02:17 PM   #56 
  - Here is a short interview with Christiane Amanpour  Kurovski   May-03-11 02:22 PM   #57 
  - If all it does is to bring Pakistanis to face the fact that their govt/military sponsors terror  kenny blankenship   May-03-11 02:35 PM   #58 
  - It looks like it could mean much more, and by that I mean good.  Kurovski   May-03-11 02:43 PM   #61 
  - Obama is the perfect person to be President at this time in history.  Kurovski   May-03-11 02:38 PM   #59 
  - Did anyone think otherwise?  Puregonzo1188   May-03-11 02:38 PM   #60 
  - Captain Red Legs Terrell from "The Outlaw Josey Wales"  DefenseLawyer   May-03-11 02:48 PM   #62 

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