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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 11:21 AM
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21. Not necessarily
You may find that you will qualify for better need-based aid at a private college or university somewhere than at an in-state school (despite the tuition being lower. You may end up paying the same or less at a pricey private college elsewhere, especially if your income is very modest.)

Thus, for example, the threshhold for qualifying for need-based aid (out and out grants, not loans) at UNC Chapel Hill is 200% of federal federal poverty line ($24,000 to $37,000). If you make more than that, you're not going to get any non-loan financial aid. If you were to go to Rice University in Texas, for example, the threshold for receiving aid would be $80,000 in income. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_financial_aid_in_t...

Thus, for example, when our daughter was applying to colleges her final choice was to go to University of Wisconsin-Madison at in-state tuition rate or a small, fairly elite private college out of state whose tuition was much higher. But the financial aid package offered by that private school made it about the same price as the in-state state public school.

All this said, two provisos: beware the financial aid packages offered you. Both our kids got offered very good aid packages upon acceptance. But after filling out FAFSAs in subsequent years, that aid shrank. We were not very aggressive in arguing with the schools after that, but we felt we'd been bait-and-switched. Make sure your package covers all four years (ours seemed to say so, but technicalities did not apply).

Also, you will be surprised at how poor you have to be to qualify for out-and-out aid. (Loans they are happy to give you.)

Lastly, don't even bother with merit-based aid. It really doesn't exist. Our son won a National Merit Scholarship, which means you are in the top one-half of one percent of all students nationally taking the PSATs. The award is $2,000 (which doesn't go far these days). The trick is: the minute you get the "scholarship" it reduces your financial aid package from your school by the same $2,000! My son was furious when he learned this, and wrote a testy letter to the National Merit people--it ain't a scholarship if it counts against your aid.


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  -Any tips on the college financial aid process? OneGrassRoot  Jan-01-11 10:49 AM   #0 
  - Be sure to check available scholarships in her field of study  mmonk   Jan-01-11 10:55 AM   #1 
  - With the extra note that you should *regularly* check for available scholarships  Posteritatis   Jan-01-11 10:58 AM   #3 
     - Agreed.  mmonk   Jan-01-11 11:00 AM   #5 
     - Will do. Thank you both! :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:13 AM   #10 
  - check out fastweb.com  fizzgig   Jan-01-11 10:55 AM   #2 
  - Thanks very much! :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:13 AM   #12 
  - You should STRONGLY encourage her to go in-state.  Statistical   Jan-01-11 11:00 AM   #4 
  - With the major she is pursuing, it's a little trickier...  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:17 AM   #17 
  - My cousin's son worked on props for productions including TV's  mmonk   Jan-01-11 11:41 AM   #37 
     - That's cool! :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:44 AM   #42 
  - Some of the better colleges offer better aid to poor students  Nikia   Jan-01-11 11:21 AM   #20 
  - Agreed which is why I said some exceptions exists.  Statistical   Jan-01-11 11:24 AM   #23 
  - Not necessarily  frazzled   Jan-01-11 11:21 AM   #21 
  - Good stuff here...  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:45 AM   #44 
  - There are a number of schools out there  SheilaT   Jan-01-11 01:51 PM   #64 
     - Unfortunately ...  frazzled   Jan-01-11 02:20 PM   #67 
        - I understand about not being interested  SheilaT   Jan-01-11 04:06 PM   #71 
  - Duke is in NC. Duke is a great university.  bluestate10   Jan-01-11 11:33 AM   #29 
  - Have you checked into  laylah   Jan-01-11 11:00 AM   #6 
  - Yes, I'll be checking out Pell Grants and other options...  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:19 AM   #18 
     - Pell grants are part of FAFSA  Nikia   Jan-01-11 11:23 AM   #22 
        - Nice! Thanks again. :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:45 AM   #45 
  - I would encourage her to consider work study if offered.  PA Democrat   Jan-01-11 11:08 AM   #7 
  - Ah, that's cool. That was a question at the FAFSA site...  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:20 AM   #19 
  - I am Financing my son's Bachlors  FreakinDJ   Jan-01-11 11:11 AM   #8 
  - Wow....  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:29 AM   #26 
  - Prestigious Colleges have turned into a "Pay to Play" racket  FreakinDJ   Jan-01-11 11:42 AM   #40 
     - Interesting. Thanks again. :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:48 AM   #48 
  - I'm in the same boat as One Root --  cilla4progress   Jan-01-11 12:10 PM   #55 
     - You'll have to consult an IRA expert how to do it properly  FreakinDJ   Jan-01-11 12:22 PM   #58 
        - We are in Washington state  cilla4progress   Jan-01-11 12:43 PM   #62 
  - Couple of questions...what is she interested in majoring in? Is there anything  JanMichael   Jan-01-11 11:12 AM   #9 
  - Thanks, I will! :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:29 AM   #27 
  - Check with the college's financial aid offices  Nikia   Jan-01-11 11:13 AM   #11 
  - Thanks, Nikia!  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:33 AM   #28 
  - Go in-state  taught_me_patience   Jan-01-11 11:15 AM   #13 
  - Thanks so much...  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:34 AM   #30 
  - No student loans.  bemildred   Jan-01-11 11:16 AM   #14 
  - Thanks, bemildred. I hear you. ;) n/t  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:34 AM   #31 
  - As someone stuck with my kids' student loans  LiberalEsto   Jan-01-11 11:16 AM   #15 
  - Wow, thanks for sharing your experiences, LiberalEsto...  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:35 AM   #32 
  - The bankruptcy part is VERY important.  Statistical   Jan-01-11 11:44 AM   #43 
     - That is VERY important indeed....  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:52 AM   #49 
        - Just remember it doesn't only apply to private student loans.  Statistical   Jan-01-11 11:56 AM   #51 
           - Gotcha. n/t  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:59 AM   #52 
  - Here's a good place to start with info  BuelahWitch   Jan-01-11 11:17 AM   #16 
  - Sweet. Thanks! :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:37 AM   #34 
  - Recommendations  JPZenger   Jan-01-11 11:25 AM   #24 
  - Wow, you're like Yoda!  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:39 AM   #35 
  - Get in touch with the financial aid offices at the colleges and universities that  bluestate10   Jan-01-11 11:27 AM   #25 
  - Will do. That seems to be the most important next step...  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:40 AM   #36 
  - The best financial aid is cutting the actual costs of your daughter's  MineralMan   Jan-01-11 11:36 AM   #33 
  - I appreciate your wisdom...  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:42 AM   #39 
     - I wish you very good luck in your pursuit, and hope your  MineralMan   Jan-01-11 11:46 AM   #46 
  - Do you have a community college within commuting distance?  zen_bohemian   Jan-01-11 11:42 AM   #38 
  - Yes, within a mile from here, actually...  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:43 AM   #41 
  - This thread is a PERFECT example of why DU absolutely rocks!!!  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 11:47 AM   #47 
  - the deal we have with our kids-first 2 years at a cheap school  mopinko   Jan-01-11 11:54 AM   #50 
  - Will do...  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 12:01 PM   #53 
  - Fill out the FAFSA and community college  tammywammy   Jan-01-11 12:07 PM   #54 
  - Thanks, tammywammy! :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 12:11 PM   #56 
  - I'm a returning student  tammywammy   Jan-01-11 12:18 PM   #57 
     - I started the FAFSA this morning...  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 12:24 PM   #59 
        - Good luck to you  tammywammy   Jan-01-11 12:34 PM   #60 
        - My nephew is a drama major  sammytko   Jan-01-11 02:49 PM   #69 
           - I will pass that along...  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 05:35 PM   #73 
  - Community College to get all of the basics out of the way...  rasputin1952   Jan-01-11 12:41 PM   #61 
     - Thanks, rasputin...  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 05:34 PM   #72 
  - Stay away from loans, they only make one a debt slave.  Odin2005   Jan-01-11 12:57 PM   #63 
  - Agreed! :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 05:35 PM   #74 
  - 1) File tax return; 2) File FAFSA (you can do it online)  HopeHoops   Jan-01-11 02:10 PM   #65 
  - I'm on it!  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 05:36 PM   #75 
  - Here's something else to think about:  SheilaT   Jan-01-11 02:14 PM   #66 
  - Thanks, SheilaT  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 05:40 PM   #76 
  - JPZenger's post above has very good info/advice. I'd also recommend that  kath   Jan-01-11 02:33 PM   #68 
  - Wow, kath, this is great!  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 05:41 PM   #77 
  - HOPE Scholarship in GA  aikoaiko   Jan-01-11 02:53 PM   #70 
  - That's really great to know about.  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 05:42 PM   #78 
     - No problem. I try to advertise the HOPE scholarship at DU as much as possible.  aikoaiko   Jan-01-11 06:54 PM   #81 
        - I will do that, aikoaiko!  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 07:15 PM   #82 
  - NEVER TAKE A LOAN, unless you have a real, solid plan to pay them back and will enter a field  Swamp Rat   Jan-01-11 05:46 PM   #79 
     - Yes, sir!  OneGrassRoot   Jan-01-11 06:21 PM   #80 
 

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