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Mon May-02-11 12:48 PM
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older people tend to realize the difference between hollow victories and real ones.
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| -My husband was a NYC firefighter, and I am not dancing on the grave |
adigal |
May-02-11 10:15 AM |
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Perfect. Thank you. And thank your husband for me and this country. |
Zoeisright |
May-02-11 10:17 AM |
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I agree I think it is pretty embarrassing. |
avaistheone1 |
May-03-11 01:58 AM |
#155 |
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i am not celebrating nor dancing on the grave. i am good with what obama did. i am not going |
seabeyond |
May-02-11 10:17 AM |
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Agreed |
Sherman A1 |
May-02-11 10:18 AM |
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Exactly, no one should tell anyone how they should feel /nt |
still_one |
May-02-11 10:24 AM |
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I would never tell anyone how to feel.. |
LostinNY |
May-02-11 11:01 PM |
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lostinny |
trud |
May-03-11 05:08 AM |
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Who exactly is telling others how they should feel? |
liberation |
May-02-11 11:38 PM |
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That point is clearly argued in the OP, and thereafter in this thread. |
Lasher |
May-03-11 05:04 AM |
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True, but the echos of WOZ 'Ding Dong the Witch is Dead' celebration |
HillbillyBob |
May-03-11 06:54 AM |
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Perfectly stated... |
JuniperLea |
May-02-11 10:41 AM |
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K&R'd; thank you. |
snot |
May-02-11 10:18 AM |
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I am sure many 9-11 firemen feel 100% different. n-t |
Logical |
May-02-11 10:19 AM |
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I'm sure they do...and this is their decision |
adigal |
May-02-11 10:24 AM |
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So, To Be A "Liberal Democrat",,, |
Yavin4 |
May-03-11 08:17 AM |
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I'm sure many 9/11 First Responders are experiencing a spectrum of feelings... |
Pacifist Patriot |
May-02-11 10:28 AM |
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Truly. |
calimary |
May-02-11 10:32 AM |
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I see a clear put down of others for their feelings... |
JuniperLea |
May-02-11 10:46 AM |
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You aren't the only one. |
Pithlet |
May-02-11 10:50 AM |
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Such "peace". |
bobbolink |
May-02-11 11:07 AM |
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I am at work...and you have no clue what you are spewing |
adigal |
May-02-11 11:10 AM |
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No, here's a clear putdown: celebrating in the streets reflects badly on our country and its culture |
Gormy Cuss |
May-02-11 11:33 AM |
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i agree with you |
reggie the dog |
May-02-11 03:36 PM |
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I see the cheering in the streets as a rejoyce at success. Even if he were captured |
Maraya1969 |
May-02-11 09:34 PM |
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me too. Proud of Obama and the Repbubs that could celebrate this n/t |
Jmaxfie1 |
May-03-11 04:23 AM |
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"a ReJOYCE at success"? |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 04:36 AM |
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We aren't any different from some radical muslims then |
TheLastMohican |
May-03-11 05:10 AM |
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I think the warmonger culture is what made this acceptable behavior to some Americans. |
Gormy Cuss |
May-03-11 09:54 AM |
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Only the OP's feelings are valid. |
Ikonoklast |
May-02-11 02:10 PM |
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I didn't say that I wanted it stopped |
adigal |
May-02-11 05:40 PM |
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You stated that this is a 'Christian' nation. |
Ikonoklast |
May-02-11 05:48 PM |
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Yep |
JuniperLea |
May-02-11 06:22 PM |
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a put down? |
reggie the dog |
May-02-11 03:33 PM |
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Clearly you missed the condescension in the OP... |
JuniperLea |
May-02-11 06:23 PM |
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I disagree |
trud |
May-03-11 05:11 AM |
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Yes, rather funny those accusing her of being 'judgmental' and 'condescending' ... |
Myrina |
May-03-11 07:35 AM |
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I think there is room |
Mz Pip |
May-02-11 10:19 AM |
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When I was back in college... |
MedicalAdmin |
May-02-11 04:09 PM |
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thank you both for your sacrifice and I I do understand that we |
blondeatlast |
May-02-11 10:19 AM |
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it is kind of distasteful to say the least. death should never be something to |
ejpoeta |
May-02-11 10:20 AM |
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Thank you. |
bobbolink |
May-02-11 10:22 AM |
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"This cheering says that OBL won" |
marions ghost |
May-02-11 12:46 PM |
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They weren't my words, but they reflect what I have thought and felt for a long time. |
bobbolink |
May-02-11 08:44 PM |
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back atcha |
marions ghost |
May-02-11 09:19 PM |
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I have been having my own stuff going on. What i posted a few |
HillbillyBob |
May-03-11 07:11 AM |
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+1000 |
reggie the dog |
May-02-11 04:20 PM |
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Posts like this, from those directly affected by the actions of |
bullwinkle428 |
May-02-11 10:22 AM |
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If you look at most of the "celebrators", they are quite young -- college age, early twenties |
whathehell |
May-02-11 10:23 AM |
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I think you got it. Like fans of the Simpsons, etc. |
bobbolink |
May-02-11 10:38 AM |
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good point |
marions ghost |
May-02-11 12:48 PM |
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Yes, I think so too. Thanks. |
whathehell |
May-02-11 02:29 PM |
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Good point and one I needed to hear. |
MedicalAdmin |
May-02-11 04:13 PM |
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He is young |
marions ghost |
May-02-11 06:07 PM |
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Peace. |
midnight |
May-02-11 10:23 AM |
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You have every right to your feelings, but so others who are celebrating that garbage is no longer |
still_one |
May-02-11 10:23 AM |
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I said we were quietly satisfied, but not celebrating. |
adigal |
May-02-11 10:26 AM |
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Everyone is entitled to their feelings /nt |
still_one |
May-02-11 10:27 AM |
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+1. |
jefferson_dem |
May-03-11 06:41 AM |
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Your balanced approach is what USED to characterize this country. |
bobbolink |
May-02-11 10:40 AM |
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Excellent Point... |
WiffenPoof |
May-02-11 10:45 AM |
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Thank you for your support and hugs - will share with my husband n/t |
adigal |
May-02-11 11:13 AM |
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Very welcome. In some ways, it must be a difficult day for you. |
bobbolink |
May-02-11 11:22 AM |
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I wish there was a like button for comments. |
kurtzapril4 |
May-02-11 10:42 PM |
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I'm never glad when another human being has been murdered... |
JuniperLea |
May-02-11 10:50 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-02-11 11:25 AM |
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If anyone suffered as a result of 9/11 |
Missy Vixen |
May-02-11 11:32 AM |
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They aren't the only people who have suffered... |
JuniperLea |
May-02-11 12:24 PM |
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Well, gosh |
Missy Vixen |
May-02-11 12:39 PM |
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Thanks for showing your true colors... |
JuniperLea |
May-02-11 12:41 PM |
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You don't have the slightest clue about my "true colors". |
Missy Vixen |
May-02-11 02:02 PM |
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Instead... |
marions ghost |
May-02-11 12:51 PM |
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Or |
pecwae |
May-02-11 03:33 PM |
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well said - n/t |
MedicalAdmin |
May-02-11 04:17 PM |
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No kidding. |
Puglover |
May-02-11 06:35 PM |
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Good advice. Consider taking it. n/t |
MedicalAdmin |
May-02-11 04:15 PM |
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k&r 10000!!! n/t |
Donnachaidh |
May-02-11 10:23 AM |
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I too was a bit repulsed by the photos of those |
Sherman A1 |
May-02-11 10:24 AM |
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Thank you Adigal for sharing this. |
HERVEPA |
May-02-11 10:25 AM |
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10 years of pain shows itself in many different ways. |
Snoutport |
May-02-11 10:25 AM |
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+ 1,000,000 |
Pacifist Patriot |
May-02-11 10:25 AM |
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K&R. There are people who know how to react. |
Jakes Progress |
May-02-11 10:26 AM |
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Most of America isn't celebrating.... |
BooScout |
May-02-11 10:26 AM |
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Thank you for your kind wishes - I'll show my husband this thread |
adigal |
May-02-11 10:27 AM |
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Even though I am glad OBL is dead, I am not grave dancing |
Taverner |
May-02-11 10:28 AM |
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The most powerful photo I saw yesterday was of NYC firefighters |
suffragette |
May-02-11 10:28 AM |
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Doesn't exactly look like a wild party, does it? |
Pacifist Patriot |
May-02-11 11:14 AM |
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I think it is a closing of a chapter in our history |
suffragette |
May-02-11 12:02 PM |
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I am not dancing on his grave..... |
demgurl |
May-02-11 10:29 AM |
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I'm not dancing or celebrating.. |
Texasgal |
May-02-11 10:30 AM |
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honest reaction is going to vary greatly |
TayTay |
May-02-11 10:31 AM |
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Recommend! |
Poboy |
May-02-11 10:33 AM |
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This seems to be pretty close to where I am. Thanks. |
TheKentuckian |
May-02-11 10:33 AM |
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Yep, you can feel the way that you want to. |
blueamy66 |
May-02-11 10:34 AM |
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Yes, I would feel the same way |
adigal |
May-02-11 05:46 PM |
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I don't think that I could feel as you do. |
blueamy66 |
May-02-11 06:10 PM |
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Adigal - I agree |
avebury |
May-02-11 10:34 AM |
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"he said it makes no difference" |
Vinnie From Indy |
May-02-11 10:35 AM |
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K&R |
Eyerish |
May-02-11 10:41 AM |
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Thank God Someone Said Something... |
WiffenPoof |
May-02-11 10:41 AM |
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The USA is NOT a "Christian Nation" |
Autumn Colors |
May-02-11 10:42 AM |
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I felt the same about that "christian nation" line as the OP felt about the celebrating. |
DeschutesRiver |
May-02-11 12:13 PM |
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Agree... NOT a Christian nation. The founders were wise enough to set it up as a secular nation. |
Arugula Latte |
May-02-11 01:56 PM |
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I agree with you. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
May-03-11 08:02 AM |
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I largely agree with you. I'm not celebrating either, BUT this is NOT a Christian nation |
cali |
May-02-11 10:43 AM |
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And even if it were... Christians aren't supposed to judge... |
JuniperLea |
May-02-11 10:51 AM |
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Christian nations, and Christians... |
JuniperLea |
May-02-11 10:44 AM |
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Would you please point out where exactly in the OP |
Puglover |
May-02-11 06:42 PM |
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Can we donate the reward money to the 911 first responders? |
thelordofhell |
May-02-11 10:47 AM |
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Yes, justice was served...and people are excited about it. |
IrishBuckeye |
May-02-11 10:55 AM |
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Justice |
marions ghost |
May-02-11 12:59 PM |
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justice, or vengeance? |
nashville_brook |
May-02-11 09:11 PM |
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vengeance |
Glaisne |
May-03-11 10:02 AM |
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not at all, look at World War11 pictures |
flpab |
May-03-11 06:21 AM |
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I agree with you. K&R. nt |
woo me with science |
May-02-11 11:01 AM |
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agree |
ensho |
May-02-11 11:03 AM |
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The football game analogy is perfect . . . |
janet118 |
May-02-11 11:09 AM |
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One of my FB friends who lost her son in the war is disgusted that they're selling T-shirts about... |
JVS |
May-02-11 11:10 AM |
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thank you |
G_j |
May-02-11 11:58 AM |
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The Football Game analogy doesn't go far enough. |
bvar22 |
May-02-11 12:06 PM |
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+++++ |
marions ghost |
May-02-11 01:03 PM |
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Excellent. I think most people who have seen real violence aren't gleeful about it. Ever. |
DirkGently |
May-02-11 12:18 PM |
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That really resonates for me. n/t |
EFerrari |
May-02-11 12:43 PM |
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K/r^^ de-evolution, or something |
Gravel Democrat |
May-02-11 12:21 PM |
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It makes me a bit queasy, but maybe I could understand it if... |
MilesColtrane |
May-02-11 12:26 PM |
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Peace back atcha, Adigal. |
EFerrari |
May-02-11 12:41 PM |
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peace to you and your husband, adigal |
dana_b |
May-02-11 12:48 PM |
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thank you. |
krabigirl |
May-02-11 12:49 PM |
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A very good, deeply thought out OP. Thank you. N/T |
GoneOffShore |
May-02-11 12:53 PM |
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This must in some ways be very difficult, I would imagine |
fujiyama |
May-02-11 12:56 PM |
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... |
progressoid |
May-02-11 01:46 PM |
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well said |
dooner |
May-02-11 01:53 PM |
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I feel EXACTLY THE SAME WAY as you do. |
no_hypocrisy |
May-02-11 01:58 PM |
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i think what you saw was a cathartic reaction |
shireen |
May-02-11 02:07 PM |
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We also feel the same way at our home although were not directly involved in any way. |
glinda |
May-02-11 02:38 PM |
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kr |
Hannah Bell |
May-02-11 03:05 PM |
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Hugs to you adigal |
pecwae |
May-02-11 03:29 PM |
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i agree with you wholeheartedly |
reggie the dog |
May-02-11 03:29 PM |
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I, who have no personal loss connected to 9/11 disagree with you...... |
Rowdyboy |
May-02-11 04:56 PM |
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agree |
flpab |
May-03-11 06:26 AM |
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A post for sanity....thanx |
ooglymoogly |
May-02-11 05:13 PM |
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as i noted on a different thread: |
barbtries |
May-02-11 05:23 PM |
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I watched 9/11 from my roof, all I feel today is disgust and want to throw up |
firehorse |
May-02-11 05:26 PM |
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Oh god, not another Tom Cruise movie. nt |
Incitatus |
May-02-11 05:30 PM |
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I too watched this from my back porch...and agree with your take on it. |
BrklynLiberal |
May-02-11 07:34 PM |
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Thanks for posting |
catrose |
May-02-11 05:40 PM |
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EVERYONE is entitled to their feelings - no matter what they are. n/t |
CakeGrrl |
May-02-11 05:47 PM |
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You're what this country needs more of. |
RegieRocker |
May-02-11 05:48 PM |
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Just wanted to thank you all |
adigal |
May-02-11 05:52 PM |
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And I just read this from a Ground Zero widow we all know |
adigal |
May-02-11 07:07 PM |
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Thanks for this link. It is excellent writing. |
BrklynLiberal |
May-02-11 07:35 PM |
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You said it just fine! |
blaze |
May-02-11 08:03 PM |
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K&R for a report from ground zero. (nt) |
Kurovski |
May-02-11 06:00 PM |
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May-02-11 06:25 PM |
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strength |
Locrian |
May-02-11 07:01 PM |
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I agree with you and your husband 100%. |
BrklynLiberal |
May-02-11 07:31 PM |
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Excellent post. |
rug |
May-02-11 07:35 PM |
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Well said. K&R |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
May-02-11 08:07 PM |
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wise words - couldn't agree more. |
nashville_brook |
May-02-11 09:08 PM |
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Thank you; sorry some DUers don't appreciate your POV |
carolinayellowdog |
May-02-11 09:47 PM |
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Thank you. |
Gregorian |
May-02-11 09:58 PM |
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Thank you |
Dystopian |
May-02-11 10:12 PM |
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K & R. Thanks, Adigal. nt |
bertman |
May-02-11 10:21 PM |
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I had a lot of mixed emotions last night |
Enjay in E MT |
May-02-11 10:39 PM |
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Tell your husband thank you |
pezDispenser |
May-02-11 10:43 PM |
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I might be "bad", but I'm dancing n/t |
Jmaxfie1 |
May-02-11 10:46 PM |
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And you obviously think you're just as cute as bugs bunny for doing it. |
Pamela Troy |
May-02-11 11:59 PM |
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probably, but don't feel bad I'll dance with bugs over this. n/t |
Jmaxfie1 |
May-03-11 04:04 AM |
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K&R n/t |
DeSwiss |
May-02-11 11:50 PM |
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As some one who is a |
AsahinaKimi |
May-02-11 11:55 PM |
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Dancing on graves is never good. Sorry for your loss and I bet your |
akbacchus_BC |
May-02-11 11:57 PM |
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I've had mixed feelings about it all |
PatSeg |
May-03-11 12:17 AM |
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Yup. |
quakerboy |
May-03-11 12:30 AM |
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Those Unserious People Came From the Saloons in the Area |
SoDesuKa |
May-03-11 02:50 AM |
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I don't care what anyone says him, Mussolini, Hitler, Tojo, I'm glad there all gone. n/t |
Jmaxfie1 |
May-03-11 04:08 AM |
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You are an example of a truly good person. |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 04:28 AM |
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Thank you for this, adigal. |
democrank |
May-03-11 04:37 AM |
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I'm not dancing on hi sgrave, bu I don't object to people who do. |
trud |
May-03-11 05:04 AM |
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Of course. What the fuck is wrong with people. K and R |
Smarmie Doofus |
May-03-11 05:40 AM |
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No Flames here Adigal. |
Butch350 |
May-03-11 06:10 AM |
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Well, if the both of you can forgive someone so very evil |
customerserviceguy |
May-03-11 06:12 AM |
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But we won! Terrorism is over! All our troops can come home! |
tclambert |
May-03-11 06:15 AM |
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k&r |
Starry Messenger |
May-03-11 06:27 AM |
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Blood lust never ends well |
MannyGoldstein |
May-03-11 06:30 AM |
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I appreciate your perspective... |
jefferson_dem |
May-03-11 06:37 AM |
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K&R |
Enthusiast |
May-03-11 07:17 AM |
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Thank you for posting |
OwnedByFerrets |
May-03-11 07:22 AM |
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I was in grad school on 9/11 - and one classmate lost a brother in the towers. |
TBF |
May-03-11 07:30 AM |
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Hug your hero for me |
florida08 |
May-03-11 08:05 AM |
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Only the chickenhawks dance. |
Loge23 |
May-03-11 08:45 AM |
#187 |