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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:26 AM
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131. You can't bash progressives and still do progressive things.
You're basically saying that anyone who isn't shouting "USA! USA!" should be sacrificed for the greater good.

I strongly suspect you'd have been fine with LBJ betraying the Mississippi Freedom Democrats in 1964-a betrayal that didn't gain him a single vote anywhere in the fall, by the way.
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  -If there's one thing I can't stand about some liberals, it's the unrelenting victim mentality. Bicoastal  May-02-11 09:20 AM   #0 
  - Not this liberal.  The Velveteen Ocelot   May-02-11 09:21 AM   #1 
  - I just put my "Obama 08" yard sign back out in the front yard.  calimary   May-02-11 10:39 AM   #47 
  - I honestly wonder if they're so dour  Codeine   May-02-11 09:23 AM   #2 
  - Ha!  Richardo   May-02-11 09:25 AM   #5 
  - Some of them do, yes. They also wonder why no one ever invites them out or to parties. nt  blondeatlast   May-02-11 09:28 AM   #10 
  - You party while the workers suffer? n/t  msanthrope   May-02-11 09:34 AM   #12 
     - . . .  Codeine   May-02-11 09:35 AM   #13 
     - And dress their cildren in costumes and make sport of them. nt  blondeatlast   May-02-11 09:41 AM   #17 
  - Can't wait to hear how wsws and The Progressive paint the issue...  SidDithers   May-02-11 09:39 AM   #16 
  - I just wanna know how the Gates Foundation is involved.  msanthrope   May-02-11 11:28 AM   #56 
  - this is all you do, right? i don't think i've ever seen you post anything but personal jabs.  Hannah Bell   May-03-11 03:00 AM   #91 
  - I agree! Dour is right!  Carni   May-02-11 01:11 PM   #73 
  - No. We're just against arrogance and imperialism.  Ken Burch   May-03-11 05:02 AM   #123 
  - LOL  Dorian Gray   May-04-11 06:48 AM   #181 
  - Bicoastal- I personally didn't feel "good" last night. Nor did I celebrate. I understand human psych  KittyWampus   May-02-11 09:23 AM   #3 
  - I feel similarly.  snot   May-02-11 09:26 AM   #8 
  - Thank you.  Habibi   May-02-11 09:48 AM   #20 
  - +1000  Angry Dragon   May-02-11 09:56 AM   #21 
  - That's exactly my take as well. +1000 nt  ecstatic   May-02-11 11:47 AM   #58 
  - I wouldn't generalize what you may see on a few posts on DU. Most of the posts on DU are quite  still_one   May-02-11 09:24 AM   #4 
  - Not this Liberal. In fact, you might be confusing Liberal with  OHdem10   May-02-11 09:25 AM   #6 
  - Word...  tallahasseedem   May-02-11 09:26 AM   #7 
  - We've lost nearly as many citizens in the Afghan war, more if you count contractors.  JVS   May-02-11 09:28 AM   #9 
  - those people don't count. they're glad to die for freedom (tm).  Hannah Bell   May-03-11 03:09 AM   #97 
  - Love the post. I'm a fighting liberal. I don't back down, and I'm not going to apologize  Fuzz   May-02-11 09:32 AM   #11 
  - +1  FLPanhandle   May-02-11 10:42 AM   #48 
     - It also gets me in trouble here on this board though.  Fuzz   May-02-11 11:25 AM   #55 
  - Right on! Couldn't have expressed it better myself.  sufrommich   May-02-11 09:36 AM   #14 
  - You got it  bluestateguy   May-02-11 09:36 AM   #15 
  - McGovern, Mondale, and Dukakis should have been elected.  David__77   May-02-11 09:43 AM   #18 
  - Yes the world is much better off because Bush Sr. was president instead of Dukakis  Armstead   May-02-11 10:10 AM   #26 
  - Really, that was just too much for words  Art_from_Ark   May-03-11 06:36 AM   #140 
  - George McGovern is a REAL live war hero...not a make believe one  Douglas Carpenter   May-03-11 03:04 AM   #95 
  - wtf?  Hannah Bell   May-03-11 03:10 AM   #98 
  - McGovern was a WW 11 Fighter Pilot and a hero.  sabrina 1   May-03-11 05:08 AM   #125 
  - Your mentality is what gave us LBJ AND let LBJ rig the '68 convention  Ken Burch   May-03-11 05:09 AM   #126 
  - And I can't stand the lack of consistency.  Bonobo   May-02-11 09:46 AM   #19 
  - And if it futhered their agenda, Osama and his ilk would put a bullet in your head without  Ikonoklast   May-02-11 10:11 AM   #27 
  - So you'd put a bullet in his head without even blinking to further your agenda.  wtmusic   May-02-11 10:20 AM   # 
  - If you want to play nice with mass murderers, that's your problem.  Ikonoklast   May-02-11 10:29 AM   #43 
     - Not at all. But it's funny you're so special you get to decide  wtmusic   May-02-11 10:39 AM   #46 
     - Yep, that's me. I get to decide who lives, and who dies.  Ikonoklast   May-02-11 10:44 AM   #49 
        - Breaking a personal rule and responding to a post that makes no sense  wtmusic   May-02-11 10:49 AM   #51 
        - you're not really an iconoclast  DisgustipatedinCA   May-02-11 08:30 PM   #84 
           - +100. same old idol-worship from that one  Hannah Bell   May-03-11 03:14 AM   #101 
           -'s a horrible slander to say anybody mourned or even LIKED the guy  Ken Burch   May-03-11 05:20 AM   #129 
     - Following the Rule of Law is "playing nice"?  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 02:42 AM   #89 
        - so the "new democrats" want us to believe.  Hannah Bell   May-03-11 03:15 AM   #102 
  - >Implying people in our government or corporations wouldn't do the same thing. nt  sudopod   May-02-11 10:23 AM   #41 
  - +1  Armstead   May-02-11 10:12 AM   #29 
  - Hear, Hear!  Ken Burch   May-03-11 05:10 AM   #127 
  - K&R. I have not one ounce of remorse that the son of a bitch is dead.  cliffordu   May-02-11 09:58 AM   #22 
  - God I hate those liberals....Rotten malcontents...Scummy leftists...Party-Pooper Progressives  Armstead   May-02-11 09:59 AM   #23 
  - Wrong - the OP says 'some' liberals  Richardo   May-02-11 10:12 AM   #28 
  - It is just another unnecessary example of liberal bashing  Armstead   May-02-11 10:19 AM   #35 
     - nailed it  Vattel   May-02-11 11:01 AM   #53 
     - is it unnecessary though?  hfojvt   May-02-11 11:46 AM   #57 
     - Really, because I thought that following through on campaign promises is what won elections.  PassingFair   May-02-11 12:13 PM   #64 
     - you must have missed the last few elections  hfojvt   May-02-11 12:28 PM   #65 
        - You live in a strange little world.  PassingFair   May-02-11 12:38 PM   #66 
        - I live in a world where I saw tons of ads on TV  hfojvt   May-02-11 12:56 PM   #70 
           - They wanted help, and they don't care WHO gives it to them.  PassingFair   May-02-11 01:05 PM   #72 
           - +1  Kurovski   May-03-11 03:47 AM   #119 
           - It will be impossible for us to do anything progressive it we lower ourselves permanently  Ken Burch   May-03-11 05:34 AM   #132 
           - Oh for God's sake what do you think the Repukes are gonna say??  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 04:02 PM   #164 
        - they do. that's why obama won in 2008, and that's why dems lost in 2010.  Hannah Bell   May-03-11 03:18 AM   #105 
        - You can't bash progressives and still do progressive things.  Ken Burch   May-03-11 05:26 AM   #131 
        - So what did they elect him for, if not the Platform he ran on?  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 04:04 PM   #165 
     - Um, the same charges were used against those who opposed the Iraq War  Armstead   May-02-11 02:20 PM   #78 
     - it's not elitist to go against the grain  hfojvt   May-02-11 03:23 PM   #79 
        - In some instances that may be correct. But being critical of the status quo requires being critical  Armstead   May-02-11 07:37 PM   #80 
     - yes, by all means, liberals should join the limbaugh nazis so they can "win".  Hannah Bell   May-03-11 03:17 AM   #104 
     - People who think that their nationality (or color or sexual orientation or whatever)  eridani   May-03-11 03:30 AM   #113 
     - not compared to other people in the same nation  hfojvt   May-03-11 03:56 AM   #120 
     - So anyone who questions majority opinion or reaction is an elitist?  Ken Burch   May-03-11 05:24 AM   #130 
     - With that kind of attitude  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 03:57 PM   #163 
     - +100. you'd think it was fr.  Hannah Bell   May-03-11 03:16 AM   #103 
     - +++  Bluebear   May-04-11 04:50 AM   #178 
  - Sometimes you do wonder about the posts  Jakes Progress   May-02-11 10:22 AM   #38 
  - Amen Brother Amen  Hobo   May-02-11 10:02 AM   #24 
  - I'm not celebrating Osama's death, but  sarge43   May-02-11 10:09 AM   #25 
  - I think a lot of it is smugness and superiority  Dogmudgeon   May-02-11 10:14 AM   #30 
  - "Abstracted Superiority" is the coin of the realm for many around here.  Throd   May-02-11 10:23 AM   #39 
  - That isn't my experience whatsoever at DU.  EFerrari   May-02-11 10:54 AM   #52 
     - well-said  Vattel   May-02-11 11:03 AM   #54 
     - Nah, I disagree, that's very much been my experience here on DU.  NuttyFluffers   May-02-11 08:23 PM   #83 
        - So in your "mature" scenario, there is no discussion at DU  EFerrari   May-02-11 09:04 PM   #88 
        - that is an extreme interpretation, no? there is discussion and then there's emotional venting.  NuttyFluffers   May-03-11 07:39 AM   #147 
        - "other people's FUN"?  Ken Burch   May-03-11 06:30 AM   #137 
           - take it as you will, i don't care. but notice, i'm not telling people what to feel.  NuttyFluffers   May-03-11 07:30 AM   #146 
              - If you're complaining about it  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 04:44 PM   #168 
  - If we had captured him alive, people would be celebrating the same way.  phleshdef   May-02-11 10:15 AM   #31 
  - Reuters reported he "didn't return fire"  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 02:57 AM   #90 
  - There's an American ex-leader in hiding in a mansion outside Dallasabad  wtmusic   May-02-11 10:16 AM   #32 
  - ME TOO  BobbyBoring   May-02-11 01:52 PM   #77 
  - An Egyptian media blogger that I've read for months  EFerrari   May-02-11 08:59 PM   #87 
  - +100. i seem to recall a few other terrorists who've gotten big get out of jail free cards too.  Hannah Bell   May-03-11 03:21 AM   #107 
  - True Fucking Dat.  Ken Burch   May-03-11 06:32 AM   #138 
  - I'm not particularly a liberal, but I am VERY left..........  socialist_n_TN   May-02-11 10:18 AM   #33 
  - I don't know. I look at this with a confused eye  Taverner   May-02-11 10:18 AM   #34 
  - Isn't this what the right wing says about liberals all the time?  EFerrari   May-02-11 10:20 AM   #36 
  - Eggs Ackley.....This thread sounds like Anne Coulter  Armstead   May-02-11 10:21 AM   #37 
  - Standard-issue Hannity : "ZOMG!!1! WHY IZ OBAMA RUNNING AROUND THE  bullwinkle428   May-02-11 10:48 AM   #50 
  - Thank you for saying that.  martymar64   May-02-11 08:07 PM   #81 
  - Why yes. Yes it is.  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 03:03 AM   #93 
  - Yeah.  EFerrari   May-03-11 03:23 AM   #108 
     - I don't know. I'm beginning to suspect that a lot of people are here because they dislike...  JVS   May-03-11 06:37 AM   #141 
  - BINGO!!! This OP is all the right wing BS internalized and spewed back at us.  Bonobo   May-03-11 03:24 AM   #109 
  - Christ, E, have people totally gone off their heads on this site?  Ken Burch   May-03-11 05:18 AM   #128 
  - Yes.  JVS   May-03-11 06:35 AM   #139 
  - +1  myrna minx   May-03-11 05:56 AM   #133 
  - Ah, the relentless democratic thirst to eat our own  Cetacea   May-02-11 10:23 AM   #40 
  - Several answers to your point  nadinbrzezinski   May-02-11 10:24 AM   #42 
  - You Are 100% Correct. Then We Wonder Why The Majority of Americans Don't Support Us  Yavin4   May-02-11 10:30 AM   #44 
  - Did you lift that from Hannity? Or was it Rush?  Armstead   May-02-11 10:32 AM   #45 
  - Yep...they prefer Reagan's "morning in America" over Carter's "malaise"  deutsey   May-04-11 07:20 AM   #184 
  - So now that you've got your blods, guts, gore, veins in your teeth,  MadHound   May-02-11 11:50 AM   #59 
  - I wonder if DU had been around when hitler/etc died how it would play out here  The Straight Story   May-02-11 11:50 AM   #60 
  - yeah! You tell those damn liberasls!  Armstead   May-02-11 11:59 AM   #61 
  - OMFG! Does that mean that Prescott Bush and his buds were LIBRULS? n/t  eridani   May-03-11 03:37 AM   #115 
  - I'm sure that is exactly what a certain group here would've said. nt  Raine   May-03-11 03:06 AM   #96 
  - Nuremberg trials = justice, This assassination does NOT  Bragi   May-02-11 12:08 PM   #62 
  - Getting Osama isn't justice? wow, just wow. nt  ItNerd4life   May-02-11 12:46 PM   #67 
  - Only if ...  defendandprotect   May-02-11 01:32 PM   #76 
  - Oh please  bluestateguy   May-02-11 12:56 PM   #69 
  - Yep, we be terrists for sure  Bragi   May-02-11 01:16 PM   #74 
  - It wasn't an assassination  themadstork   May-02-11 01:00 PM   #71 
     - Um - you know that how?  Warren Stupidity   May-03-11 06:59 AM   #142 
     - Definition of Assassination:  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 02:43 PM   #149 
  - I Try And Think About...  WiffenPoof   May-02-11 12:11 PM   #63 
  - Bingo there something that is unequivocally good  SpartanDem   May-02-11 12:49 PM   #68 
  - Liberals as "victims" -- ?  defendandprotect   May-02-11 01:29 PM   #75 
  - 'Isn't that a Limbaugh talking point?' - MOST CERTAINLY.  Bluebear   May-03-11 03:38 AM   #116 
     - Yes. It totally is a Limbaugh talking point. nt  Zorra   May-03-11 06:28 AM   #136 
  - Unrec for wankery.  JoeyT   May-02-11 08:16 PM   #82 
  - Wankery is a perfect word for it  Armstead   May-02-11 08:32 PM   #85 
  - Feel good for what? What is different for us than yesterday?  TheKentuckian   May-02-11 08:55 PM   #86 
  - Flagellate you. nt  Bluebear   May-03-11 03:01 AM   #92 
  - It's basically a new version of white guilt.  joshcryer   May-03-11 03:04 AM   #94 
  - Good point, I think you're on to something  Raine   May-03-11 03:13 AM   #99 
  - And it's hilarious because no one is really responsible for either the shitty or the good.  joshcryer   May-03-11 03:29 AM   #112 
  - I hope you just forgot the sarcasm thingy on this post  Armstead   May-03-11 02:49 PM   #150 
  - + 1. Far too many on here...  LostInAnomie   May-03-11 03:14 AM   #100 
  - Where has anyone said they're "superior"?  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 03:11 PM   #151 
  - Can't stand it about conservatives either.  FLAprogressive   May-03-11 03:19 AM   #106 
  - lol, how many threads that bash liberals are going to be posted  quinnox   May-03-11 03:28 AM   #110 
  - I saw a thread locked  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 03:18 PM   #152 
  - I so do appreciate our would-be Ghandis taking this "opportunity to enlighten" the rest of us...  Warren DeMontague   May-03-11 03:29 AM   #111 
  - Or those almost weeping over the presumed death of a known lying tyrants kid.  joshcryer   May-03-11 03:31 AM   #114 
  - I searched your quotation on DU  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 03:24 PM   #153 
     - Nope.  Warren DeMontague   May-03-11 03:38 PM   #161 
        - Your quote is NOT in there  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 04:24 PM   #167 
           - Pfft. Nice try. Poster clearly was suggesting that SHE was doing the "enlightening".  Warren DeMontague   May-03-11 07:45 PM   #173 
              - BS A quote is a quote. Period  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 08:13 PM   #176 
                 - No, actually, not "period". Quotation marks can also be used to paraphrase, summarize or convey tone  Warren DeMontague   May-03-11 08:44 PM   #177 
                    - You're embarassing yourself  Cherchez la Femme   May-06-11 12:32 AM   #185 
  - Them goddam libruls invited OBL and his girls' school burning buds--  eridani   May-03-11 03:41 AM   #117 
  - And always remember --  eridani   May-03-11 03:46 AM   #118 
  - That "unrelenting victim mentality"...  foreigncorrespondent   May-03-11 04:51 AM   #121 
  - That's the thing  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 03:31 PM   #154 
     - Oh I agree with you...  foreigncorrespondent   May-03-11 03:56 PM   #162 
  - Is there any reason we should WANT the "decline" narrative to change?  Ken Burch   May-03-11 04:58 AM   #122 
  - Uh dude, you do know that "call-out" threads against other DU'ers are against forum rules, right?  Ken Burch   May-03-11 05:05 AM   #124 
  - Save your breath, Ken  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 03:34 PM   #156 
  - Recced.  AngryOldDem   May-03-11 06:01 AM   #134 
  - By you, this is a "diversion"?  Ken Burch   May-03-11 06:27 AM   #135 
     - WHY do you hate America?  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 03:35 PM   #157 
        - Well...America killed my dog....  Ken Burch   May-03-11 06:20 PM   #172 
  - I reject the proto-fascist death cult culture in all of its manifestations.  Warren Stupidity   May-03-11 07:01 AM   #143 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-03-11 07:04 AM   #144 
  - I agree.  Ganja Ninja   May-03-11 07:07 AM   #145 
  - Some people's first response isn't "is this good or bad"  EFerrari   May-03-11 03:33 PM   #155 
  - I'm a progressive and  mountainlion55   May-03-11 08:20 AM   #148 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-03-11 03:36 PM   #158 
  - Thank god Rush Limbaugh's views on liberals are finally getting some exposure here.  myrna minx   May-03-11 03:37 PM   #159 
  - You said it! Damn commies!  Bluebear   May-03-11 04:53 PM   #169 
  - Sorry to inform you:  timesup   May-03-11 03:37 PM   #160 
  - "shooting directly at us at the time of his capture"  hulka38   May-03-11 04:09 PM   #166 
  - Why is this shit uber-callout thread allowed to continue? (nt)  whatchamacallit   May-03-11 04:58 PM   #170 
  - I don't know but it says a lot about DU, doesn't it?  Cherchez la Femme   May-03-11 05:13 PM   #171 
     - I guess it's a reflection of our new Post 9/11 world  whatchamacallit   May-03-11 07:50 PM   #175 
  - Rush Limbaugh and company use the same talking points. Sure you're on the right site? n/t  Exilednight   May-03-11 07:46 PM   #174 
  - yeah, well, what *i* hate about "some" liberals is that they're ok with violating international law  Hannah Bell   May-04-11 05:11 AM   #179 
  - ROFLMAO!  Bonobo   May-04-11 06:56 AM   #182 
  - lol, what a TOTAL flamebait. well done, i guess.  inna   May-04-11 05:17 AM   #180 
  - I can't stand that trait either, but I also am not "feeling good" about what happened  deutsey   May-04-11 07:16 AM   #183 

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