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Mon May-02-11 08:23 PM
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| 83. Nah, I disagree, that's very much been my experience here on DU. |
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Even activism has to be analyzed and not all of it stands up to scrutiny. There are those who do make great sacrifice, and accomplish something. And then there are those who, even though they make great sacrifice, end up agitating only through impotent actions, accomplishing nothing. To fail gloriously and project responsibility while at the same time project morality. It's a controlling need to shame and compel others to accomplish goals for them (and sometimes that goal is simply feeling 'better than thou'). There's more than one way to indulge in escapism-based sloth, just as there is more than one way to be passive-aggressive.
Remember, for each of these grave dancing sessions, it took an interruption of "tsk"ing disapproval to start the community acrimony. The more mature, less passive-aggressive response is to either steer clear of such behavior and create a separate space (like a topic not just about criticizing others) to express one's own just as valid feelings. This is basic 'don't be a debbie downer' party etiquette: hang out with those who resonate to your own energy, because pissing on other people's fun is ALWAYS bad form.
That's a very simple and impossible to refute guideline for mature behavior. Don't like the scene, leave. Start your own defined space, not out of negatively criticizing others around you (which is obviously antagonistic and itching for a fight), but from positively expressing what you are feeling (which lets your feelings and boundaries be expressed without denigrating others). This is how experienced and mannered people on the same side deal with the occasional discordant viewpoints and still remain a community.
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| -If there's one thing I can't stand about some liberals, it's the unrelenting victim mentality. |
Bicoastal |
May-02-11 09:20 AM |
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Not this liberal. |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
May-02-11 09:21 AM |
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I just put my "Obama 08" yard sign back out in the front yard. |
calimary |
May-02-11 10:39 AM |
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I honestly wonder if they're so dour |
Codeine |
May-02-11 09:23 AM |
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Ha! |
Richardo |
May-02-11 09:25 AM |
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Some of them do, yes. They also wonder why no one ever invites them out or to parties. nt |
blondeatlast |
May-02-11 09:28 AM |
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You party while the workers suffer? n/t |
msanthrope |
May-02-11 09:34 AM |
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. . . |
Codeine |
May-02-11 09:35 AM |
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And dress their cildren in costumes and make sport of them. nt |
blondeatlast |
May-02-11 09:41 AM |
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Can't wait to hear how wsws and The Progressive paint the issue... |
SidDithers |
May-02-11 09:39 AM |
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I just wanna know how the Gates Foundation is involved. |
msanthrope |
May-02-11 11:28 AM |
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this is all you do, right? i don't think i've ever seen you post anything but personal jabs. |
Hannah Bell |
May-03-11 03:00 AM |
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I agree! Dour is right! |
Carni |
May-02-11 01:11 PM |
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No. We're just against arrogance and imperialism. |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 05:02 AM |
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LOL |
Dorian Gray |
May-04-11 06:48 AM |
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Bicoastal- I personally didn't feel "good" last night. Nor did I celebrate. I understand human psych |
KittyWampus |
May-02-11 09:23 AM |
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I feel similarly. |
snot |
May-02-11 09:26 AM |
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Thank you. |
Habibi |
May-02-11 09:48 AM |
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+1000 |
Angry Dragon |
May-02-11 09:56 AM |
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That's exactly my take as well. +1000 nt |
ecstatic |
May-02-11 11:47 AM |
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I wouldn't generalize what you may see on a few posts on DU. Most of the posts on DU are quite |
still_one |
May-02-11 09:24 AM |
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Not this Liberal. In fact, you might be confusing Liberal with |
OHdem10 |
May-02-11 09:25 AM |
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Word... |
tallahasseedem |
May-02-11 09:26 AM |
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We've lost nearly as many citizens in the Afghan war, more if you count contractors. |
JVS |
May-02-11 09:28 AM |
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those people don't count. they're glad to die for freedom (tm). |
Hannah Bell |
May-03-11 03:09 AM |
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Love the post. I'm a fighting liberal. I don't back down, and I'm not going to apologize |
Fuzz |
May-02-11 09:32 AM |
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+1 |
FLPanhandle |
May-02-11 10:42 AM |
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It also gets me in trouble here on this board though. |
Fuzz |
May-02-11 11:25 AM |
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Right on! Couldn't have expressed it better myself. |
sufrommich |
May-02-11 09:36 AM |
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You got it |
bluestateguy |
May-02-11 09:36 AM |
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McGovern, Mondale, and Dukakis should have been elected. |
David__77 |
May-02-11 09:43 AM |
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Yes the world is much better off because Bush Sr. was president instead of Dukakis |
Armstead |
May-02-11 10:10 AM |
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Really, that was just too much for words |
Art_from_Ark |
May-03-11 06:36 AM |
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George McGovern is a REAL live war hero...not a make believe one |
Douglas Carpenter |
May-03-11 03:04 AM |
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wtf? |
Hannah Bell |
May-03-11 03:10 AM |
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McGovern was a WW 11 Fighter Pilot and a hero. |
sabrina 1 |
May-03-11 05:08 AM |
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Your mentality is what gave us LBJ AND let LBJ rig the '68 convention |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 05:09 AM |
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And I can't stand the lack of consistency. |
Bonobo |
May-02-11 09:46 AM |
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And if it futhered their agenda, Osama and his ilk would put a bullet in your head without |
Ikonoklast |
May-02-11 10:11 AM |
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So you'd put a bullet in his head without even blinking to further your agenda. |
wtmusic |
May-02-11 10:20 AM |
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If you want to play nice with mass murderers, that's your problem. |
Ikonoklast |
May-02-11 10:29 AM |
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Not at all. But it's funny you're so special you get to decide |
wtmusic |
May-02-11 10:39 AM |
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Yep, that's me. I get to decide who lives, and who dies. |
Ikonoklast |
May-02-11 10:44 AM |
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Breaking a personal rule and responding to a post that makes no sense |
wtmusic |
May-02-11 10:49 AM |
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you know.....you're not really an iconoclast |
DisgustipatedinCA |
May-02-11 08:30 PM |
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+100. same old idol-worship from that one |
Hannah Bell |
May-03-11 03:14 AM |
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Indeed...it's a horrible slander to say anybody mourned or even LIKED the guy |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 05:20 AM |
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Following the Rule of Law is "playing nice"? |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 02:42 AM |
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so the "new democrats" want us to believe. |
Hannah Bell |
May-03-11 03:15 AM |
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>Implying people in our government or corporations wouldn't do the same thing. nt |
sudopod |
May-02-11 10:23 AM |
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+1 |
Armstead |
May-02-11 10:12 AM |
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Hear, Hear! |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 05:10 AM |
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K&R. I have not one ounce of remorse that the son of a bitch is dead. |
cliffordu |
May-02-11 09:58 AM |
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God I hate those liberals....Rotten malcontents...Scummy leftists...Party-Pooper Progressives |
Armstead |
May-02-11 09:59 AM |
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Wrong - the OP says 'some' liberals |
Richardo |
May-02-11 10:12 AM |
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It is just another unnecessary example of liberal bashing |
Armstead |
May-02-11 10:19 AM |
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nailed it |
Vattel |
May-02-11 11:01 AM |
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is it unnecessary though? |
hfojvt |
May-02-11 11:46 AM |
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Really, because I thought that following through on campaign promises is what won elections. |
PassingFair |
May-02-11 12:13 PM |
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you must have missed the last few elections |
hfojvt |
May-02-11 12:28 PM |
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You live in a strange little world. |
PassingFair |
May-02-11 12:38 PM |
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I live in a world where I saw tons of ads on TV |
hfojvt |
May-02-11 12:56 PM |
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They wanted help, and they don't care WHO gives it to them. |
PassingFair |
May-02-11 01:05 PM |
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+1 |
Kurovski |
May-03-11 03:47 AM |
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It will be impossible for us to do anything progressive it we lower ourselves permanently |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 05:34 AM |
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Oh for God's sake what do you think the Repukes are gonna say?? |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 04:02 PM |
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they do. that's why obama won in 2008, and that's why dems lost in 2010. |
Hannah Bell |
May-03-11 03:18 AM |
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You can't bash progressives and still do progressive things. |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 05:26 AM |
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So what did they elect him for, if not the Platform he ran on? |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 04:04 PM |
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Um, the same charges were used against those who opposed the Iraq War |
Armstead |
May-02-11 02:20 PM |
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it's not elitist to go against the grain |
hfojvt |
May-02-11 03:23 PM |
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In some instances that may be correct. But being critical of the status quo requires being critical |
Armstead |
May-02-11 07:37 PM |
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yes, by all means, liberals should join the limbaugh nazis so they can "win". |
Hannah Bell |
May-03-11 03:17 AM |
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People who think that their nationality (or color or sexual orientation or whatever) |
eridani |
May-03-11 03:30 AM |
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not compared to other people in the same nation |
hfojvt |
May-03-11 03:56 AM |
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So anyone who questions majority opinion or reaction is an elitist? |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 05:24 AM |
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With that kind of attitude |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 03:57 PM |
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+100. you'd think it was fr. |
Hannah Bell |
May-03-11 03:16 AM |
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+++ |
Bluebear |
May-04-11 04:50 AM |
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Sometimes you do wonder about the posts |
Jakes Progress |
May-02-11 10:22 AM |
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Amen Brother Amen |
Hobo |
May-02-11 10:02 AM |
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I'm not celebrating Osama's death, but |
sarge43 |
May-02-11 10:09 AM |
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I think a lot of it is smugness and superiority |
Dogmudgeon |
May-02-11 10:14 AM |
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"Abstracted Superiority" is the coin of the realm for many around here. |
Throd |
May-02-11 10:23 AM |
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That isn't my experience whatsoever at DU. |
EFerrari |
May-02-11 10:54 AM |
#52 |
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well-said |
Vattel |
May-02-11 11:03 AM |
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Nah, I disagree, that's very much been my experience here on DU. |
NuttyFluffers |
May-02-11 08:23 PM |
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So in your "mature" scenario, there is no discussion at DU |
EFerrari |
May-02-11 09:04 PM |
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that is an extreme interpretation, no? there is discussion and then there's emotional venting. |
NuttyFluffers |
May-03-11 07:39 AM |
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"other people's FUN"? |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 06:30 AM |
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take it as you will, i don't care. but notice, i'm not telling people what to feel. |
NuttyFluffers |
May-03-11 07:30 AM |
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If you're complaining about it |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 04:44 PM |
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If we had captured him alive, people would be celebrating the same way. |
phleshdef |
May-02-11 10:15 AM |
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Reuters reported he "didn't return fire" |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 02:57 AM |
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There's an American ex-leader in hiding in a mansion outside Dallasabad |
wtmusic |
May-02-11 10:16 AM |
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ME TOO |
BobbyBoring |
May-02-11 01:52 PM |
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An Egyptian media blogger that I've read for months |
EFerrari |
May-02-11 08:59 PM |
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+100. i seem to recall a few other terrorists who've gotten big get out of jail free cards too. |
Hannah Bell |
May-03-11 03:21 AM |
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True Fucking Dat. |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 06:32 AM |
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I'm not particularly a liberal, but I am VERY left.......... |
socialist_n_TN |
May-02-11 10:18 AM |
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I don't know. I look at this with a confused eye |
Taverner |
May-02-11 10:18 AM |
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Isn't this what the right wing says about liberals all the time? |
EFerrari |
May-02-11 10:20 AM |
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Eggs Ackley.....This thread sounds like Anne Coulter |
Armstead |
May-02-11 10:21 AM |
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Standard-issue Hannity : "ZOMG!!1! WHY IZ OBAMA RUNNING AROUND THE |
bullwinkle428 |
May-02-11 10:48 AM |
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Thank you for saying that. |
martymar64 |
May-02-11 08:07 PM |
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Why yes. Yes it is. |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 03:03 AM |
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Yeah. |
EFerrari |
May-03-11 03:23 AM |
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I don't know. I'm beginning to suspect that a lot of people are here because they dislike... |
JVS |
May-03-11 06:37 AM |
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BINGO!!! This OP is all the right wing BS internalized and spewed back at us. |
Bonobo |
May-03-11 03:24 AM |
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Christ, E, have people totally gone off their heads on this site? |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 05:18 AM |
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Yes. |
JVS |
May-03-11 06:35 AM |
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+1 |
myrna minx |
May-03-11 05:56 AM |
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Ah, the relentless democratic thirst to eat our own |
Cetacea |
May-02-11 10:23 AM |
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Several answers to your point |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-02-11 10:24 AM |
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You Are 100% Correct. Then We Wonder Why The Majority of Americans Don't Support Us |
Yavin4 |
May-02-11 10:30 AM |
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Did you lift that from Hannity? Or was it Rush? |
Armstead |
May-02-11 10:32 AM |
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Yep...they prefer Reagan's "morning in America" over Carter's "malaise" |
deutsey |
May-04-11 07:20 AM |
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So now that you've got your blods, guts, gore, veins in your teeth, |
MadHound |
May-02-11 11:50 AM |
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I wonder if DU had been around when hitler/etc died how it would play out here |
The Straight Story |
May-02-11 11:50 AM |
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yeah! You tell those damn liberasls! |
Armstead |
May-02-11 11:59 AM |
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OMFG! Does that mean that Prescott Bush and his buds were LIBRULS? n/t |
eridani |
May-03-11 03:37 AM |
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I'm sure that is exactly what a certain group here would've said. nt |
Raine |
May-03-11 03:06 AM |
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Nuremberg trials = justice, This assassination does NOT |
Bragi |
May-02-11 12:08 PM |
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Getting Osama isn't justice? wow, just wow. nt |
ItNerd4life |
May-02-11 12:46 PM |
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Only if ... |
defendandprotect |
May-02-11 01:32 PM |
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Oh please |
bluestateguy |
May-02-11 12:56 PM |
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Yep, we be terrists for sure |
Bragi |
May-02-11 01:16 PM |
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It wasn't an assassination |
themadstork |
May-02-11 01:00 PM |
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Um - you know that how? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-03-11 06:59 AM |
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Definition of Assassination: |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 02:43 PM |
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I Try And Think About... |
WiffenPoof |
May-02-11 12:11 PM |
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Bingo there something that is unequivocally good |
SpartanDem |
May-02-11 12:49 PM |
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Liberals as "victims" -- ? |
defendandprotect |
May-02-11 01:29 PM |
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'Isn't that a Limbaugh talking point?' - MOST CERTAINLY. |
Bluebear |
May-03-11 03:38 AM |
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Yes. It totally is a Limbaugh talking point. nt |
Zorra |
May-03-11 06:28 AM |
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Unrec for wankery. |
JoeyT |
May-02-11 08:16 PM |
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Wankery is a perfect word for it |
Armstead |
May-02-11 08:32 PM |
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Feel good for what? What is different for us than yesterday? |
TheKentuckian |
May-02-11 08:55 PM |
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Flagellate you. nt |
Bluebear |
May-03-11 03:01 AM |
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It's basically a new version of white guilt. |
joshcryer |
May-03-11 03:04 AM |
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Good point, I think you're on to something |
Raine |
May-03-11 03:13 AM |
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And it's hilarious because no one is really responsible for either the shitty or the good. |
joshcryer |
May-03-11 03:29 AM |
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I hope you just forgot the sarcasm thingy on this post |
Armstead |
May-03-11 02:49 PM |
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+ 1. Far too many on here... |
LostInAnomie |
May-03-11 03:14 AM |
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Where has anyone said they're "superior"? |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 03:11 PM |
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Can't stand it about conservatives either. |
FLAprogressive |
May-03-11 03:19 AM |
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lol, how many threads that bash liberals are going to be posted |
quinnox |
May-03-11 03:28 AM |
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I saw a thread locked |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 03:18 PM |
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I so do appreciate our would-be Ghandis taking this "opportunity to enlighten" the rest of us... |
Warren DeMontague |
May-03-11 03:29 AM |
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Or those almost weeping over the presumed death of a known lying tyrants kid. |
joshcryer |
May-03-11 03:31 AM |
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I searched your quotation on DU |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 03:24 PM |
#153 |
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Nope. |
Warren DeMontague |
May-03-11 03:38 PM |
#161 |
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Your quote is NOT in there |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 04:24 PM |
#167 |
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Pfft. Nice try. Poster clearly was suggesting that SHE was doing the "enlightening". |
Warren DeMontague |
May-03-11 07:45 PM |
#173 |
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BS A quote is a quote. Period |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 08:13 PM |
#176 |
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No, actually, not "period". Quotation marks can also be used to paraphrase, summarize or convey tone |
Warren DeMontague |
May-03-11 08:44 PM |
#177 |
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You're embarassing yourself |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-06-11 12:32 AM |
#185 |
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Them goddam libruls invited OBL and his girls' school burning buds-- |
eridani |
May-03-11 03:41 AM |
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And always remember -- |
eridani |
May-03-11 03:46 AM |
#118 |
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That "unrelenting victim mentality"... |
foreigncorrespondent |
May-03-11 04:51 AM |
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That's the thing |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 03:31 PM |
#154 |
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Oh I agree with you... |
foreigncorrespondent |
May-03-11 03:56 PM |
#162 |
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Is there any reason we should WANT the "decline" narrative to change? |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 04:58 AM |
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Uh dude, you do know that "call-out" threads against other DU'ers are against forum rules, right? |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 05:05 AM |
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Save your breath, Ken |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 03:34 PM |
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Recced. |
AngryOldDem |
May-03-11 06:01 AM |
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By you, this is a "diversion"? |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 06:27 AM |
#135 |
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WHY do you hate America? |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 03:35 PM |
#157 |
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Well...America killed my dog.... |
Ken Burch |
May-03-11 06:20 PM |
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I reject the proto-fascist death cult culture in all of its manifestations. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-03-11 07:01 AM |
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May-03-11 07:04 AM |
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I agree. |
Ganja Ninja |
May-03-11 07:07 AM |
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Some people's first response isn't "is this good or bad" |
EFerrari |
May-03-11 03:33 PM |
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I'm a progressive and |
mountainlion55 |
May-03-11 08:20 AM |
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May-03-11 03:36 PM |
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Thank god Rush Limbaugh's views on liberals are finally getting some exposure here. |
myrna minx |
May-03-11 03:37 PM |
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You said it! Damn commies! |
Bluebear |
May-03-11 04:53 PM |
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Sorry to inform you: |
timesup |
May-03-11 03:37 PM |
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"shooting directly at us at the time of his capture" |
hulka38 |
May-03-11 04:09 PM |
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Why is this shit uber-callout thread allowed to continue? (nt) |
whatchamacallit |
May-03-11 04:58 PM |
#170 |
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I don't know but it says a lot about DU, doesn't it? |
Cherchez la Femme |
May-03-11 05:13 PM |
#171 |
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I guess it's a reflection of our new Post 9/11 world |
whatchamacallit |
May-03-11 07:50 PM |
#175 |
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Rush Limbaugh and company use the same talking points. Sure you're on the right site? n/t |
Exilednight |
May-03-11 07:46 PM |
#174 |
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yeah, well, what *i* hate about "some" liberals is that they're ok with violating international law |
Hannah Bell |
May-04-11 05:11 AM |
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ROFLMAO! |
Bonobo |
May-04-11 06:56 AM |
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lol, what a TOTAL flamebait. well done, i guess. |
inna |
May-04-11 05:17 AM |
#180 |
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I can't stand that trait either, but I also am not "feeling good" about what happened |
deutsey |
May-04-11 07:16 AM |
#183 |