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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:38 PM
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30. What are you upset about? Doesn't killing him satisfy?
Edited on Mon May-02-11 05:44 PM by Leopolds Ghost
Yeah, Some of the celebration doesn't seem healthy, it seems like the pre-Old Testament "we killed the Great Enemy, we got souvenirs" -- I for one would have rather seen the US capture Bin Laden if only for a brief period.

Would we have tried to take Hitler alive or burned his body and scattered the remains like Stalin did? Admittedly what Hitler did was even worse, and set the stage for Bin Laden's anti-semitism too. It raises an interesting question in that capturing Bin Laden would be almost more dangerous to the US keeping him alive than killing him with a single bullet. We knew he would put up a fight anyway, so we really were catering to his wish.

I wanted to go down to Dupont Circle to the Newsroom and buy copies of the papers CNN was showing, but I found out the Newsroom has closed -- there is no place in DC I can go to buy newspapers or even metro late editions of the NY dailies (they sell the generic DC editions in local shops). So the people who are promoting and using Twitter have no long term memory of what they want or why we are still in Afghanistan and Iraq -- lacking newspapers or any long-form reading tradition, they aren't shocked by the news that we here have been saying along, that Bin Laden would be found safe in the arms of "US ally" Pakistan while we were chasing shadows in Afghanistan.

It's no wonder I haven't seen footage of US Marines jumping and cheering like the young crowds (unfortunately populated intensely by frat boys) here in the US. They know the implications and they can see the big picture, but I'm sure they're overjoyed inside, they also know what this means for Afghanistan. But the frat boys only know twitter, don't read newspapers and journalism is dying in this country, replaced by 5 channels, all of which will be on a combined TV/Internet service. So they don't know any better, not being old enough to remember why we're in Afghanistan.
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  -Habemus Corpus Plaid Adder  May-01-11 11:13 PM   #0 
  - Exactly my feelings  MedleyMisty   May-01-11 11:17 PM   #1 
  - Hey Plaid, thanks for your post. I too relied on DU during those  texpatriot2004   May-01-11 11:20 PM   #2 
  - K&R  leftstreet   May-01-11 11:21 PM   #3 
  - Yesterday, I was talking to a Jewish friend about the death of Qaddafi's son  LongTomH   May-01-11 11:26 PM   #4 
  - yeah  themadstork   May-01-11 11:30 PM   #5 
  - Groucho Marx did a solemn Charelston on Hitler's grave.....  Joe the Revelator   May-02-11 12:27 AM   #10 
  - Or it would be, if Hitler had a grave. nt  RaleighNCDUer   May-02-11 01:56 AM   #11 
     - He went to sight of Hitlers bunker, climbed up the rubble, and danced there.....  Joe the Revelator   May-02-11 07:16 AM   #15 
        - Not quite the same thing, but it will do.  RaleighNCDUer   May-02-11 09:33 AM   #18 
  - In the new order, there is no moral prohibition on such things, thats for newspaper-reading eggheads  Leopolds Ghost   May-02-11 05:50 PM   #34 
  - Thank you for an excellent post. I feel the same.  scarletwoman   May-01-11 11:33 PM   #6 
  - Very well said  Stinky The Clown   May-01-11 11:39 PM   #7 
  - You've eloquently expressed what I wish I could have - OBL death supposedly vindicates the War(s)  WillYourVoteBCounted   May-02-11 12:21 AM   #8 
  - Actually, it raises a huge problem for the War. It means this whole time we've been chasing shadows  Leopolds Ghost   May-02-11 05:47 PM   #33 
  - +1  readmoreoften   May-02-11 10:07 PM   #39 
  - Beautiful post, K&R, and don't be such a stranger around here!  bullwinkle428   May-02-11 12:24 AM   #9 
  - Maybe it means that god-damn decade is finally fucking over.  Warren DeMontague   May-02-11 02:21 AM   #12 
  -'s such a marvelous night for a grave dance...the Patriot Act Shuffle anyone?  jus_the_facts   May-02-11 02:22 AM   #13 
  - Habemas  JVS   May-02-11 02:23 AM   #14 
  - "Habeas corpus" means "you may have the body. "Habemus corpus" means...  Plaid Adder   May-02-11 09:01 AM   #17 
     - Uffda. I fucked up.  JVS   May-02-11 10:59 AM   #20 
     - So why is it "corpus" instead of "corpum" or "corpem"?  Jim Lane   May-02-11 03:23 PM   #26 
        - Corpus is a neuter third-declension noun.  Plaid Adder   May-02-11 10:55 PM   #42 
           - My thanks to you and your classical colleague!  Jim Lane   May-02-11 11:23 PM   #43 
  - Good to see you again  WilliamPitt   May-02-11 07:46 AM   #16 
  - We have missed you, Plaid Adder.  LiberalAndProud   May-02-11 06:37 PM   #36 
  - Habuimus corpus, apparently  Terry in Austin   May-02-11 09:49 AM   #19 
  - Well, all we've ever got is somebody's word, really.  Plaid Adder   May-03-11 09:13 AM   #44 
     - The middle road lies somewhere in between...  Terry in Austin   May-03-11 01:30 PM   #45 
     - Bin Ladin Was Always Worth More Alive for the BFEE Scion  Demeter   May-04-11 08:53 AM   #46 
  - ya. i had to try and explain 911 to my 3 and 5 yr olds. i know how hard it is, you know, over 3000  seabeyond   May-02-11 11:01 AM   #21 
  - K&R  Overseas   May-02-11 11:19 AM   #22 
  - The only "celebrating" I will do -  Hell Hath No Fury   May-02-11 11:25 AM   #23 
  - Thank you. K&R n/t  myrna minx   May-02-11 11:28 AM   #24 
  - If you don't mind advice from a stranger - you don't need to tell your 3 year old about it yet.  Kber   May-02-11 02:55 PM   #25 
  - K&R. (nt)  Kurovski   May-02-11 03:44 PM   #27 
  - Apparently we don't habemos. n/t  EFerrari   May-02-11 03:45 PM   #28 
  - At first this infuriated me -- why take the body only to dump it at sea and raise the possibility?  Leopolds Ghost   May-02-11 05:42 PM   #32 
     - I think we will find out that this is a violation of the Geneva Convention  EFerrari   May-02-11 07:24 PM   #38 
        - And why is this different than pics of Saddam hanging? Why did I have to look at the mangled blue  readmoreoften   May-02-11 10:14 PM   #40 
           - I literally don't understand why people trust the Pentagon's version  EFerrari   May-02-11 10:36 PM   #41 
  - Kick. (nt)  Kurovski   May-02-11 05:00 PM   #29 
  - What are you upset about? Doesn't killing him satisfy?  Leopolds Ghost   May-02-11 05:38 PM   #30 
  - Obama has been far more subtle and discreet about getting OBL. . .  DinahMoeHum   May-02-11 05:40 PM   #31 
  - A friend's 15 year old daughter was just saying how she lurrvs boosh  BlancheSplanchnik   May-02-11 06:31 PM   #35 
  - And now what shall become of us?  Godot51   May-02-11 06:40 PM   #37 

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