FrenchieCat
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Sat Dec-26-09 03:51 AM
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| 29. What you would rather do is go round and round we go, were does that take us? |
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Nowhere.
You keep pointing to the problems, with no real ability to get to your articulated solution. In fact, the solution has been articulated many times, but it appears that getting to solving it will have to be handled differently than how you envision it.
Sen. Sanders sums up the doable start of a solution nicely....
“The bill is not as strong as I wanted and I will work to improve it, but it begins to move this country toward the long-time goal of providing comprehensive, affordable health care for all Americans. The legislation would provide health insurance for 31 million people, end the odious practice of denying care for people with pre-existing conditions, and provide affordable primary care and low-cost prescription drugs for 25 million more Americans in 10,000 more communities. We can do better, but this is an important step forward.”
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| -Noboby here really qualifies as "far left" |
Ken Burch |
Dec-26-09 01:05 AM |
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Agreed. I am a Sunday School teacher and cheering coach, not a gun running communist rebel. |
GreenPartyVoter |
Dec-26-09 01:06 AM |
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Thank you! |
nomorenomore08 |
Dec-26-09 01:23 AM |
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You are correct, they are not the The Far Left, they are the Far Outs! |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-26-09 01:35 AM |
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You got it Frenchie |
POAS |
Dec-26-09 01:53 AM |
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My stepdad and I were discussing this tonight during Christmas dinner..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-26-09 02:01 AM |
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Dennis Kucinich is a centrist in most of the industrialized world n/t |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 02:26 AM |
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Probably so but |
POAS |
Dec-26-09 02:38 AM |
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Brilliant. Just let right wing corporatists continue to define right vs left in this country |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 02:50 AM |
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Where the hell did you get that out of |
POAS |
Dec-26-09 02:57 AM |
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You were pretty well implying that the determination of what is left vs right |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 03:22 AM |
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I implied no such thing |
POAS |
Dec-26-09 03:32 AM |
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Excuse me, but by our own labels and definitions, we CREATE those realities |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 03:37 AM |
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But attempting to use |
POAS |
Dec-26-09 03:49 AM |
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While we are throwing out "Far Left" we should also throw out "corporatists" |
stevenleser |
Dec-26-09 01:35 PM |
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So, have we devolved into a group of name-calling keyboard warriors with out heads firmly lodged in |
Atticus |
Dec-26-09 02:13 AM |
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I'm learning quickly..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-26-09 02:29 AM |
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Dec-26-09 09:02 AM |
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You have nothing so you make personal attacks. |
Cha |
Dec-26-09 10:43 PM |
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Picking on Frenchie isnt the answer. There are plenty of examples in this thread of others doing the |
stevenleser |
Dec-26-09 01:42 PM |
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So, how does a mandate to purchase crappy underinsurance help any of them? n/t |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 02:24 AM |
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Because unlike you, many people want to have health insurance |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-26-09 02:34 AM |
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Agree except I would change "want" to need! n/t |
POAS |
Dec-26-09 02:39 AM |
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Given a choice between paying for ongoing medical needs over an insurance premium |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 02:48 AM |
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I am between 50-64....... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-26-09 03:01 AM |
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No, the 31 million do not need insurance at all. They need HEALTH CARE n/t |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 03:23 AM |
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And they can't get it without health insurance..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-26-09 03:32 AM |
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They could if we made an actual law that required it |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 03:42 AM |
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What you would rather do is go round and round we go, were does that take us? |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-26-09 03:51 AM |
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My solution is to leave the fucking mandates OUT of it |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 04:15 AM |
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But you would be happy if those mandates were instead in the form of taxes and we had single payer |
stevenleser |
Dec-26-09 01:46 PM |
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Paying taxes for public goods is the absolute antithesis-- |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 10:39 PM |
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That is such a meaningless meme to repeat |
stevenleser |
Dec-26-09 01:53 PM |
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Thank you! |
treestar |
Dec-27-09 01:22 PM |
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I am also in that age range but unlike you |
POAS |
Dec-26-09 03:10 AM |
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I don't see any reason at all why money for clinics and getting more primary care doctors |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 03:20 AM |
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I think I can get your point |
POAS |
Dec-26-09 03:42 AM |
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I am for passing a different bill without mandatory private insurance n/t |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 10:40 PM |
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how do you know that the only one subsidized will be the basic level plan? |
cali |
Dec-26-09 07:31 AM |
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Because that's what the bill says |
eridani |
Dec-28-09 01:49 AM |
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The 70s called.... |
BlooInBloo |
Dec-26-09 01:36 PM |
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Depends on the reference. |
Kaleva |
Dec-26-09 01:54 AM |
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Small American minds probably equate left with Pol Pot |
cyclezealot |
Dec-26-09 03:13 AM |
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Your right and I'd add |
POAS |
Dec-26-09 03:36 AM |
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And o f course to the wingnuts, all Libs' enjoy child pornography.. |
cyclezealot |
Dec-26-09 04:01 AM |
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It's in the "Liberal Manifesto" right after |
POAS |
Dec-26-09 04:06 AM |
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Speaking of which, have you tried the tasty recipes |
Ken Burch |
Dec-26-09 07:18 AM |
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Within the spectrum of American politics, some here certainly do |
wyldwolf |
Dec-26-09 07:25 AM |
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+1. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-26-09 07:32 AM |
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The terms "left" and "right" wander around to suit most people who throw them about |
Posteritatis |
Dec-26-09 07:35 AM |
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+1 |
Kaleva |
Dec-26-09 10:45 PM |
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WYLDWOLF!!! We missed you!!! |
Odin2005 |
Dec-27-09 01:34 PM |
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here and there |
wyldwolf |
Dec-27-09 05:54 PM |
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Agreed, ... |
DisgustedInMN |
Dec-26-09 08:33 AM |
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Far left does NOT mean fascists, totalitarians and terrorists |
Liberation Angel |
Dec-26-09 08:53 AM |
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+1 |
inna |
Dec-27-09 01:12 AM |
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See, I thought that was extreme--far right...while Anarchists were extreme left.n/t |
vaberella |
Dec-28-09 02:52 AM |
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People who think there are need to come hang out with me. I have some people I'd like them to meet. |
Forkboy |
Dec-26-09 01:27 PM |
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Rhetorical care? |
CreekDog |
Dec-26-09 10:41 PM |
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There is no one like that now in the US |
treestar |
Dec-27-09 01:16 PM |
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Not entirely accurate. |
hippywife |
Dec-27-09 02:19 PM |
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Depends on how you look at it. I view "left" and "right" as relative and subjective to the society. |
phleshdef |
Dec-27-09 01:19 PM |
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I'm left of a Blue dog but not considered far left. Far right, far left... |
nonsequitur |
Dec-27-09 01:25 PM |
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Simple dichotomies in politics are BS. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-27-09 01:29 PM |
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Far left here! Far left means non-violence. |
roody |
Dec-27-09 02:24 PM |
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That's a pretty silly view of the "Far Left". |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-28-09 02:39 AM |
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I thought far left---extreme was Anarchists?! nt |
vaberella |
Dec-28-09 02:50 AM |
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