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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:01 AM
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6. My stepdad and I were discussing this tonight during Christmas dinner.....
Edited on Sat Dec-26-09 02:03 AM by FrenchieCat
he doesn't like to talk politics, but he did anyways.

And he basically stated what you did.....
that he'll get nothing out of this bill most likely,
but he's not interested in the bill passing for his benefit,
but for those who need to be able to go to the doctor without
hesitation. He's pretty comfortable financially, but he certainly understands
that in this country, a true Liberal is someone willing to do something for someone else,
even if it doesn't help him/herself.

That's why folks oftentime say that Jesus would have been a Liberal....
cause it wasn't about him so much, but about those in need.

The Far Outs believe it is about nothing but them "liberating" the rest
of us from the clutches of the evil empire, aka, the United States Government,
and it overlord; the Corporations. Their only problem is that their tactics don't work,
and their arguments are stale, and help no one now, except for the Republicans,
who are a big tent if it means that they can get help tying the hands of this administration.

Guess that is what is meant by the arc of politics;
where the Left and the Right at each ends meet.
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  -Noboby here really qualifies as "far left" Ken Burch  Dec-26-09 01:05 AM   #0 
  - Agreed. I am a Sunday School teacher and cheering coach, not a gun running communist rebel.  GreenPartyVoter   Dec-26-09 01:06 AM   #1 
  - Thank you!  nomorenomore08   Dec-26-09 01:23 AM   #2 
  - You are correct, they are not the The Far Left, they are the Far Outs!  FrenchieCat   Dec-26-09 01:35 AM   #3 
  - You got it Frenchie  POAS   Dec-26-09 01:53 AM   #4 
  - My stepdad and I were discussing this tonight during Christmas dinner.....  FrenchieCat   Dec-26-09 02:01 AM   #6 
  - Dennis Kucinich is a centrist in most of the industrialized world n/t  eridani   Dec-26-09 02:26 AM   #9 
     - Probably so but  POAS   Dec-26-09 02:38 AM   #12 
        - Brilliant. Just let right wing corporatists continue to define right vs left in this country  eridani   Dec-26-09 02:50 AM   #15 
           - Where the hell did you get that out of  POAS   Dec-26-09 02:57 AM   #16 
           - You were pretty well implying that the determination of what is left vs right  eridani   Dec-26-09 03:22 AM   #21 
              - I implied no such thing  POAS   Dec-26-09 03:32 AM   # 
                 - Excuse me, but by our own labels and definitions, we CREATE those realities  eridani   Dec-26-09 03:37 AM   #25 
                    - But attempting to use  POAS   Dec-26-09 03:49 AM   #28 
           - While we are throwing out "Far Left" we should also throw out "corporatists"  stevenleser   Dec-26-09 01:35 PM   #42 
  - So, have we devolved into a group of name-calling keyboard warriors with out heads firmly lodged in  Atticus   Dec-26-09 02:13 AM   #7 
  - I'm learning quickly.....  FrenchieCat   Dec-26-09 02:29 AM   #10 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-26-09 09:02 AM   #40 
  - You have nothing so you make personal attacks.  Cha   Dec-26-09 10:43 PM   #50 
  - Picking on Frenchie isnt the answer. There are plenty of examples in this thread of others doing the  stevenleser   Dec-26-09 01:42 PM   #44 
  - So, how does a mandate to purchase crappy underinsurance help any of them? n/t  eridani   Dec-26-09 02:24 AM   #8 
  - Because unlike you, many people want to have health insurance  FrenchieCat   Dec-26-09 02:34 AM   #11 
     - Agree except I would change "want" to need! n/t  POAS   Dec-26-09 02:39 AM   #13 
     - Given a choice between paying for ongoing medical needs over an insurance premium  eridani   Dec-26-09 02:48 AM   #14 
        - I am between 50-64.......  FrenchieCat   Dec-26-09 03:01 AM   #17 
        - No, the 31 million do not need insurance at all. They need HEALTH CARE n/t  eridani   Dec-26-09 03:23 AM   #22 
           - And they can't get it without health insurance.....  FrenchieCat   Dec-26-09 03:32 AM   #23 
           - They could if we made an actual law that required it  eridani   Dec-26-09 03:42 AM   #26 
              - What you would rather do is go round and round we go, were does that take us?  FrenchieCat   Dec-26-09 03:51 AM   #29 
                 - My solution is to leave the fucking mandates OUT of it  eridani   Dec-26-09 04:15 AM   #32 
                    - But you would be happy if those mandates were instead in the form of taxes and we had single payer  stevenleser   Dec-26-09 01:46 PM   #45 
                       - Paying taxes for public goods is the absolute antithesis--  eridani   Dec-26-09 10:39 PM   #47 
           - That is such a meaningless meme to repeat  stevenleser   Dec-26-09 01:53 PM   #46 
              - Thank you!  treestar   Dec-27-09 01:22 PM   #55 
        - I am also in that age range but unlike you  POAS   Dec-26-09 03:10 AM   #18 
        - I don't see any reason at all why money for clinics and getting more primary care doctors  eridani   Dec-26-09 03:20 AM   #20 
           - I think I can get your point  POAS   Dec-26-09 03:42 AM   #27 
              - I am for passing a different bill without mandatory private insurance n/t  eridani   Dec-26-09 10:40 PM   #48 
        - how do you know that the only one subsidized will be the basic level plan?  cali   Dec-26-09 07:31 AM   #35 
           - Because that's what the bill says  eridani   Dec-28-09 01:49 AM   #62 
  - The 70s called....  BlooInBloo   Dec-26-09 01:36 PM   #43 
  - Depends on the reference.  Kaleva   Dec-26-09 01:54 AM   #5 
  - Small American minds probably equate left with Pol Pot  cyclezealot   Dec-26-09 03:13 AM   #19 
  - Your right and I'd add  POAS   Dec-26-09 03:36 AM   #24 
     - And o f course to the wingnuts, all Libs' enjoy child pornography..  cyclezealot   Dec-26-09 04:01 AM   #30 
        - It's in the "Liberal Manifesto" right after  POAS   Dec-26-09 04:06 AM   #31 
           - Speaking of which, have you tried the tasty recipes  Ken Burch   Dec-26-09 07:18 AM   #33 
  - Within the spectrum of American politics, some here certainly do  wyldwolf   Dec-26-09 07:25 AM   #34 
  - +1.  jefferson_dem   Dec-26-09 07:32 AM   #36 
  - The terms "left" and "right" wander around to suit most people who throw them about  Posteritatis   Dec-26-09 07:35 AM   #37 
  - +1  Kaleva   Dec-26-09 10:45 PM   #51 
  - WYLDWOLF!!! We missed you!!!  Odin2005   Dec-27-09 01:34 PM   #58 
     - here and there  wyldwolf   Dec-27-09 05:54 PM   #61 
  - Agreed, ...  DisgustedInMN   Dec-26-09 08:33 AM   #38 
  - Far left does NOT mean fascists, totalitarians and terrorists  Liberation Angel   Dec-26-09 08:53 AM   #39 
  - +1  inna   Dec-27-09 01:12 AM   #52 
  - See, I thought that was extreme--far right...while Anarchists were extreme left.n/t  vaberella   Dec-28-09 02:52 AM   #65 
  - People who think there are need to come hang out with me. I have some people I'd like them to meet.  Forkboy   Dec-26-09 01:27 PM   #41 
  - Rhetorical care?  CreekDog   Dec-26-09 10:41 PM   #49 
  - There is no one like that now in the US  treestar   Dec-27-09 01:16 PM   #53 
  - Not entirely accurate.  hippywife   Dec-27-09 02:19 PM   #59 
  - Depends on how you look at it. I view "left" and "right" as relative and subjective to the society.  phleshdef   Dec-27-09 01:19 PM   #54 
  - I'm left of a Blue dog but not considered far left. Far right, far left...  nonsequitur   Dec-27-09 01:25 PM   #56 
  - Simple dichotomies in politics are BS.  Odin2005   Dec-27-09 01:29 PM   #57 
  - Far left here! Far left means non-violence.  roody   Dec-27-09 02:24 PM   #60 
  - That's a pretty silly view of the "Far Left".  LostInAnomie   Dec-28-09 02:39 AM   #63 
  - I thought far left---extreme was Anarchists?! nt  vaberella   Dec-28-09 02:50 AM   #64 

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