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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:20 PM
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3. I'm envisioning all those out of work insurance execs in line at the soup kitchen
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  -Think what those billions of dollars in subsidies could do towards a real Social Insurance program Armstead  Dec-22-09 09:57 PM   #0 
  - This post has nothing to do with political personalities  Armstead   Dec-22-09 10:14 PM   #1 
  - This bill will be stripping a lot of the middle class of disposable income  eridani   Dec-22-09 10:19 PM   #2 
  - Disposable?  frazzled   Dec-22-09 10:27 PM   #5 
     - Not everyone has that choice  Armstead   Dec-22-09 10:32 PM   #6 
     - But the poster was saying people shld not have to buy insurance, but rather  frazzled   Dec-22-09 10:42 PM   #8 
     - That is one reason for real Social Insurance  Armstead   Dec-22-09 10:49 PM   #10 
        - Well, we all would have liked that  frazzled   Dec-22-09 11:09 PM   #14 
        - I wouold prefer we stem the bleeding now, and do the surgery correctly  Armstead   Dec-22-09 11:26 PM   #18 
        - It's too bad the half the country - or more - just doesn't understand  bluethruandthru   Dec-23-09 08:24 AM   #40 
     - If they are poor they will receive subisidies...  KrR   Dec-23-09 02:20 AM   #30 
     - Health insurance mandates wipes out my disposable income  eridani   Dec-22-09 10:58 PM   #11 
     - Where'd you get the $125 number?  frazzled   Dec-22-09 11:14 PM   #15 
        - Right from HR 676  eridani   Dec-22-09 11:21 PM   #17 
           - Pshaw  frazzled   Dec-22-09 11:27 PM   #19 
           - Our state single payer bill recommends $100/month  eridani   Dec-23-09 02:15 AM   #27 
           - The premium is $100... not the cost...  KrR   Dec-23-09 02:22 AM   #31 
              - So what? The rest of the cost is paid by a payroll tax  eridani   Dec-23-09 02:35 AM   #32 
              - No im for single payer also... but i dont want to "kill the bill' either n/t  KrR   Dec-23-09 02:53 AM   #33 
              - This bill is going to kill the Democratic Party  eridani   Dec-23-09 03:02 AM   #34 
                 - Not true...  KrR   Dec-23-09 03:47 AM   #35 
                    - The actual fucking over of the public has not yet commenced  eridani   Dec-23-09 04:05 AM   #36 
                       - You are uninformed.  KrR   Dec-23-09 04:35 AM   #37 
                          - Regulation after the fact isn't regulation that does anybody any good.  eridani   Dec-24-09 01:38 AM   #44 
                          - And you didnt read what he wrote  quakerboy   Dec-25-09 01:09 AM   #51 
              - How is a payroll tax so progressive?  bornskeptic   Dec-23-09 04:47 AM   #38 
                 - The payroll tax is on the EMPLOYER n/t  eridani   Dec-24-09 04:44 AM   #46 
              - So? Employers pay a payroll tax to cover the rest.  eridani   Dec-25-09 12:40 AM   #48 
           - We've already done that in WA State  eridani   Dec-24-09 04:54 AM   #47 
           - The 100 euros is only about half the cost of coverage,  bornskeptic   Dec-23-09 12:12 AM   #23 
              - So? Single payer has a payroll tax in addition to an individual premium  eridani   Dec-23-09 02:16 AM   #28 
     - A retirement plan  quakerboy   Dec-25-09 01:04 AM   #50 
  - I'm envisioning all those out of work insurance execs in line at the soup kitchen  AllyCat   Dec-22-09 10:20 PM   #3 
  - They could be hired to manage the social insurance program  Armstead   Dec-22-09 10:22 PM   #4 
     - That's for their underlings. It would be better for the execs to be in jail I suppose.  AllyCat   Dec-23-09 01:12 AM   #26 
  - The same could be said about military spending.  Gregorian   Dec-22-09 10:33 PM   #7 
  - True -- But Sadaam had WMD and we needed to protect ourselves  Armstead   Dec-22-09 11:07 PM   #12 
  - apologist excuse 1: it would never pass; excuse 2: the President has spoken!  MisterP   Dec-22-09 10:44 PM   #9 
  - Intersting anology -- Not sure I want to picture that  Armstead   Dec-22-09 11:08 PM   #13 
  - Its not "off the table", it's already part of the plans.  boppers   Dec-22-09 11:20 PM   #16 
  - Charity is a good thing -- but not the ultimate answer.  Armstead   Dec-22-09 11:32 PM   #20 
  - Just saw this on another thread... (where you might have just seen it, too...)  boppers   Dec-22-09 11:38 PM   #21 
     - The way it is written confuses my feeble brain  Armstead   Dec-23-09 12:09 AM   #22 
        - It looks like a huge toe-hold of single-payer+sliding scale.  boppers   Dec-23-09 12:17 AM   #24 
           - A worthy dream  Armstead   Dec-23-09 12:27 AM   #25 
  - Those things were included to get people  jeanpalmer   Dec-23-09 07:52 AM   #39 
     - It seems to me that bringing in more younger people would help Medicare  Armstead   Dec-23-09 04:41 PM   #42 
  - What is wrong with money going to Medicaid expansion???  KrR   Dec-23-09 02:18 AM   #29 
  - You and I have altready had this discussion and this thread is from yesterday  Armstead   Dec-23-09 04:43 PM   #43 
  - Until we drastically cut our military budget, this debate isn't that  txaslftist   Dec-23-09 04:34 PM   #41 
  - That's THE issue  jeanpalmer   Dec-24-09 02:01 AM   #45 
  - Here's my question  quakerboy   Dec-25-09 12:49 AM   #49 
  - It's not off the table because it's not conservative enough  dflprincess   Dec-25-09 01:11 AM   #52 
 

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