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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 09:44 PM
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51. He did also mention there were some changes that also affected his position..
Can remember exactly what those changes were. I will have to watch the replay again to get the details.
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  -Howard Dean: "if the Republicans hate it so much, there must be some good in it." DCBob  Dec-22-09 08:58 PM   #0 
  - Hmmm... wonder where all "rec if you're with Howard Dean" posts are now?  scheming daemons   Dec-22-09 08:59 PM   #1 
  - +1  krawhitham   Dec-22-09 09:29 PM   #41 
  - Dean never said there was "nothing good" in the bill. He allegedly said tonight there is "some good"  mcablue   Dec-22-09 10:00 PM   #58 
  - I don' think he 'caved' I think he's  mzmolly   Dec-22-09 09:02 PM   #2 
  - Well he wasn't being "pragmatic" at all just a few days ago..  DCBob   Dec-22-09 09:05 PM   #10 
  - He changed his mind after the bill changed. So yeah,  mzmolly   Dec-22-09 09:09 PM   #18 
  - Yes, your are right. Dean actually made that same claim but..  DCBob   Dec-22-09 09:14 PM   #28 
     - He was concerned about cost controls. The public option was one way  mzmolly   Dec-22-09 09:16 PM   #30 
  - I have two videos posted in this thread that say you are wrong.  madfloridian   Dec-22-09 09:29 PM   #39 
  - Yeah, as a former Deaniac..actually I still  Cha   Dec-22-09 09:06 PM   #12 
     - It's amazing  mzmolly   Dec-22-09 09:15 PM   # 
  - I think the repugs are just doing this for show now.  rurallib   Dec-22-09 09:04 PM   #3 
  - No doubt. They are playing this thing for all its worth..  DCBob   Dec-22-09 09:09 PM   #17 
     - And a lot of them are on here un'rec-ing every OP that is positive about the President or Democrats.  Maraya1969   Dec-22-09 09:45 PM   #52 
  - reality trumps ideology. always. (nm)  bevoette   Dec-22-09 09:04 PM   #4 
  - Funny, Barbara Boxer said basically the same thing, and she's  babylonsister   Dec-22-09 09:04 PM   #5 
  - Hardly a pariah, just made a disappointing move. As has Dean. Some of us can see beyond B/W  glitch   Dec-22-09 09:09 PM   #16 
  - What is wrong with what she said? I've heard that said often:  babylonsister   Dec-22-09 09:13 PM   #26 
     - Right, haters. Not policy dissenters, haters. Lover or haters of persons,. not statments or policies  glitch   Dec-22-09 09:25 PM   #35 
     - Agreed!  mzmolly   Dec-22-09 09:26 PM   #37 
  - Of course. Black is white, progressive heros "cave"  mzmolly   Dec-22-09 09:25 PM   #34 
  - Not a pariah with me. I quite like her.  burning rain   Dec-22-09 09:33 PM   #46 
  - He remembers he proposed subsidized insurance n/t  sandnsea   Dec-22-09 09:04 PM   #6 
  - WRONG  Skittles   Dec-22-09 09:04 PM   #7 
  - There is some good in it, no question about that.  girl gone mad   Dec-22-09 09:05 PM   #8 
  - They (and insurers) came up with the fucking thing.  Oregone   Dec-22-09 09:05 PM   #9 
  - Oh they hate it because Obama wants it and it doesn't involve killing people with guns and bombs  dkf   Dec-22-09 09:06 PM   #11 
  - LOL! So true about the "guns and bombs"..  DCBob   Dec-22-09 09:26 PM   #36 
  - That's a bull-ony throw away line...  SnoopDog   Dec-22-09 09:07 PM   #13 
  - I have to say this is a little reassuring  Betsy Ross   Dec-22-09 09:07 PM   #14 
  - Video from today with Schieffer. Make your own decision.  madfloridian   Dec-22-09 09:08 PM   #15 
  - Yes We Can.....Cave In  Armstead   Dec-22-09 09:12 PM   #20 
  - Dean brought this on himself.. He should not have gone public with such a negative tone..  DCBob   Dec-22-09 09:12 PM   #21 
  - Well, then if he is a "whooped puppy"...then ain't we happy and cheery.  madfloridian   Dec-22-09 09:24 PM   #33 
  - There is a huge difference in "pointing out harmful things" and demanding to "kill the bill"..  DCBob   Dec-22-09 09:29 PM   #40 
     - You are misquoting again.  madfloridian   Dec-22-09 09:31 PM   #43 
        - Are we talking about the same "Howard Dean"?  DCBob   Dec-22-09 09:34 PM   #47 
  - Where is the Maddow replay DCB?  mzmolly   Dec-22-09 11:50 PM   #72 
  - Sad, it's pathetic. I truly don't think they can see other than black or white.  glitch   Dec-22-09 09:12 PM   #25 
  - That's the lamest justification I've heard to date. They have made it clear  Better Today   Dec-22-09 09:11 PM   #19 
  - Watch the spin. Make sure the truth is being told.  madfloridian   Dec-22-09 09:12 PM   #24 
     - Hence the "if" in my assesment.  Better Today   Dec-22-09 09:15 PM   #29 
     - Spin? I think I quoted Dean word for word..  DCBob   Dec-22-09 09:20 PM   #32 
        - I will do that.  madfloridian   Dec-22-09 09:27 PM   #38 
        - Maybe someone can get the vid and post it..  DCBob   Dec-22-09 09:31 PM   #42 
           - Have you watched the one I posted that has had untruths told here?  madfloridian   Dec-22-09 09:33 PM   #45 
              - No i have not but this interview just happened so its latest and greatest..  DCBob   Dec-22-09 09:40 PM   #49 
        - Word for word, but out of context and entirely lacking based on the actual  Better Today   Dec-22-09 10:37 PM   #70 
  - Except that they don't hate it. They don't give a shit about its contents.  eridani   Dec-22-09 09:12 PM   #22 
  - I wonder what Rahm threatened him with?  dkf   Dec-22-09 09:12 PM   #23 
  - You don't think much of Dean, do you?  Cha   Dec-22-09 10:28 PM   #64 
  - No one criticizes Obama and survives WH and Media wrath...  madfloridian   Dec-22-09 09:14 PM   #27 
  - Bad logic. If one wishes to discuss the merits of the bill, then specifically name the merits.  ZombieHorde   Dec-22-09 09:19 PM   #31 
  - He did also mention there were some changes that also affected his position..  DCBob   Dec-22-09 09:44 PM   #51 
     - Good, perhaps the Republican bit was a joke. nt  ZombieHorde   Dec-22-09 10:28 PM   #65 
  - Oh no  ellie   Dec-22-09 09:32 PM   #44 
  - If he equated the left and right then he is wrong like Boxer.  madfloridian   Dec-22-09 09:38 PM   #48 
  - Sorry to see Dean cave.  Laelth   Dec-22-09 09:41 PM   #50 
  - Don't let them do this. I have posted two videos.  madfloridian   Dec-22-09 09:46 PM   #53 
  - You seem a bit desperate dude.. Chill out. Dean is just facing up to political reality..  DCBob   Dec-22-09 09:48 PM   #54 
  - I am not a dude.  madfloridian   Dec-22-09 10:00 PM   #59 
     - Sorry.  DCBob   Dec-22-09 10:09 PM   #62 
  - Thanks for the real evidence and, as usual, for advocating for the truth.  Laelth   Dec-22-09 09:52 PM   #55 
  - Well, people keep falling for it. He has not caved.  madfloridian   Dec-22-09 09:56 PM   #56 
  - What real evidence?  DCBob   Dec-22-09 10:08 PM   #61 
  - Thank you! I wanted Dean for President.  Sparky 1   Dec-23-09 06:28 AM   #74 
  - Dead-ender, huh?  jefferson_dem   Dec-22-09 10:37 PM   #69 
  - Can you provide context? that's what I hate about people quoting TV shows  mcablue   Dec-22-09 09:58 PM   #57 
  - Here's the link to the video...  DCBob   Dec-22-09 10:01 PM   #60 
  - I just watched the video.  madfloridian   Dec-22-09 10:23 PM   #63 
  - He said the Nelson amendment was significant and the Senate exchanges are better than the House. n/t  ProSense   Dec-22-09 10:33 PM   #67 
  - That is my sentiment exactly. :) n/t  Unvanguard   Dec-22-09 10:32 PM   #66 
  - Good. I'm very proud of Dr. Dean.  jefferson_dem   Dec-22-09 10:35 PM   #68 
  - Thank you Howard for coming back home!!!!  Clio the Leo   Dec-22-09 11:14 PM   #71 
  - ...  babylonsister   Dec-23-09 12:07 AM   #73 
  - I really wouldn't call it a cave in...  Tippy   Dec-23-09 06:48 AM   #75 

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