Liberal_Stalwart71
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Fri Dec-09-11 12:56 PM
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| 9. While I understand your point of view, you act as though there is but one branch of government |
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Edited on Fri Dec-09-11 01:00 PM by Liberal_Stalwart71
The foreclosure crisis is much more complicated than you are implying. I work for HUD, and we have tried all kinds of innovative approaches to keep people I their houses. The problem? HUD, as part of the Executive Branch can only do so much. It takes the private industry--the banks--who refuse to work with the administration. It takes Congress--the Legislative Branch--to use its Powers of the Purse to support these programs. We have had absolutely NO cooperation with the banks or with Congress. I'm baffled as to why this is so difficult for some people to understand. Presidential powers are VERY limited. The Republicans serving in Congress know this, and they also know that when we fail, sadly Americans tend to blame Democrats (this is what Barney Frank was discussing just last week). If Americans only understood that the economic conditions that we're in are VERY complicated and go way beyond the president, I think they would be a bit more reasonable. We're not going to get out of this situation overnight, as a result.
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| -"if you are a Democratic President, Black people in this country have your back." |
Pirate Smile |
Dec-09-11 12:25 PM |
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What a coincidence! See what I said here: |
Solomon |
Dec-09-11 12:32 PM |
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Yeah - Swede posted it as its own thread. |
Pirate Smile |
Dec-09-11 01:44 PM |
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Dec-09-11 03:28 PM |
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Solomon, man you are becoming my freaking HERO around here |
Number23 |
Dec-09-11 02:06 PM |
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Kind of you to say. I don't post nearly as much as I used to. |
Solomon |
Dec-09-11 03:23 PM |
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Love that Fuller quote |
Number23 |
Dec-09-11 05:10 PM |
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Hear hear to the nth power! |
Empowerer |
Dec-10-11 11:14 AM |
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Black liberal chiming in, miffed that we all stood behind Clinton and every single |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Dec-09-11 12:39 PM |
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A lot of liberals complained about Clinton. |
tblue |
Dec-09-11 12:49 PM |
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Where did I assert racism? Either you're living I the Twighlight Zone, or you've forgotten the prima |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Dec-09-11 12:59 PM |
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Obama's not a liberal. |
tblue |
Dec-09-11 04:27 PM |
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Reading comprehension is essential! I DID NOT say or imply that Obama is liberal!! |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Dec-09-11 06:01 PM |
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Did I say you said he was a liberal? |
tblue |
Dec-10-11 01:27 PM |
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Re-read what you wrote, my friend. We're on the same side, but I think you are angry |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Dec-10-11 04:49 PM |
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I stand by what I said. Maybe you should re-read it and |
tblue |
Dec-10-11 06:21 PM |
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That article in no way says that white liberals have abandoned Obama because of race. |
Pirate Smile |
Dec-09-11 01:17 PM |
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So mindless support is now an admirable trait? |
tavalon |
Dec-10-11 07:18 AM |
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What you insultingly call "mindless", the article says is the result of knowing how long it takes to |
Pirate Smile |
Dec-10-11 09:31 AM |
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But they enthusiastically campaigned for and supported Clinton |
treestar |
Dec-09-11 03:31 PM |
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I can't even remember back that far. |
tblue |
Dec-09-11 04:29 PM |
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Well we are responding to subthread about it |
treestar |
Dec-10-11 11:52 AM |
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Thank you |
tavalon |
Dec-10-11 07:14 AM |
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+1 |
Empowerer |
Dec-10-11 11:14 AM |
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I guess non-black liberals don't want the results for us that Obama has offered blacks. |
Lionessa |
Dec-10-11 12:21 PM |
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I guess if you don’t call potential voters, |
Cigar11 |
Dec-09-11 12:40 PM |
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My only regret is that I can only rec this once. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Dec-09-11 12:41 PM |
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Co-sign the first two comments |
CoffinEd |
Dec-09-11 12:43 PM |
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I am just as black as Obama, but you lost me at 'yellow pony.' |
tblue |
Dec-09-11 12:47 PM |
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"I am just as black as Obama". So is Herman Cain. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Dec-09-11 12:51 PM |
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While I understand your point of view, you act as though there is but one branch of government |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Dec-09-11 12:56 PM |
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The President wanted to do more things to help but they required Congressional action & |
Pirate Smile |
Dec-09-11 01:01 PM |
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Speaking from firsthand experience, you know I agree with you. You can't begin to |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Dec-09-11 01:06 PM |
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Damn. Exactly what about the phrase "yellow pony" gets you so riled up? |
Number23 |
Dec-09-11 02:08 PM |
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"half measures" sums it up for me. |
russspeakeasy |
Dec-09-11 04:40 PM |
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Thank you |
Blasphemer |
Dec-11-11 04:46 PM |
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"That makes them the grown-ups of the American left" |
Number23 |
Dec-09-11 01:59 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Dec-10-11 12:27 PM |
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Republicans don't get it |
treestar |
Dec-09-11 03:29 PM |
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white liberals should emulate hispanics |
Enrique |
Dec-09-11 03:29 PM |
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Deportations provided for under the law |
treestar |
Dec-09-11 03:33 PM |
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are you aware of what happened with the deportations? |
Enrique |
Dec-09-11 03:45 PM |
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Didn't you get the memo? |
Vattel |
Dec-09-11 05:55 PM |
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From my perspective it seems to be the other way around. |
PragmaticLiberal |
Dec-10-11 08:09 AM |
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In reality, of course, there's plenty of both. |
Vattel |
Dec-10-11 10:13 AM |
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Yes, I am |
treestar |
Dec-09-11 09:49 PM |
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And if you're a greedy, rich, prick the Republicans have YOUR back. |
11 Bravo |
Dec-09-11 05:05 PM |
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Pop sociology is so lame. Just read this crap: |
Vattel |
Dec-09-11 06:10 PM |
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I love the topic because it initiates discussion. |
babylonsister |
Dec-09-11 11:07 PM |
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Very much agree. |
great white snark |
Dec-10-11 07:50 AM |
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But armchair sociology of this sort isn't very intelligent. |
Vattel |
Dec-10-11 10:03 AM |
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there's another factor- liberals are almost completely unaware of the power of RW talk radio to |
certainot |
Dec-10-11 09:04 AM |
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PS only the herman cains and clarence thomases listen to limbaugh |
certainot |
Dec-10-11 09:08 AM |
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I'm white, Obama is as much white as black and I don't like him... |
scentopine |
Dec-10-11 10:02 AM |
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you must be new to politics, or an uncompromising principled godlike creature |
certainot |
Dec-10-11 10:34 AM |
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democrats and republicans are children of a common wall street mother -nt |
scentopine |
Dec-10-11 10:50 AM |
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Yep. Sad. |
tblue |
Dec-10-11 01:30 PM |
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like i said, maybe you haven't been paying attention |
certainot |
Dec-10-11 01:36 PM |
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There is no compromise on torture. not now not ever. Period. Your personal attack not withstanding. |
scentopine |
Dec-10-11 02:31 PM |
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you overestimate the ability of obama, or any progressive president to do anything as long |
certainot |
Dec-10-11 03:07 PM |
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Can you provide proof that torture is making us safer? Most studies claim the opposite |
scentopine |
Dec-10-11 03:55 PM |
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obama the appeaser? that's their line. |
certainot |
Dec-10-11 04:53 PM |
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I offer specifics for my discontent - you offer blame and scolding without |
scentopine |
Dec-10-11 05:10 PM |
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the left as a whole cannot say it is getting obama's back, and until it fixes the radio that's the |
certainot |
Dec-10-11 05:42 PM |
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I never suggested not voting. I said you should vote for the |
scentopine |
Dec-10-11 05:48 PM |
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you sound like your purpose is to suppress the vote |
certainot |
Dec-10-11 04:55 PM |
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You sound like you changed the topic from racism and Obama, to attacking me. Why? |
scentopine |
Dec-10-11 05:15 PM |
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i said this early on: |
certainot |
Dec-10-11 05:57 PM |
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Could be or could just be blinding cluelessnes |
Number23 |
Dec-10-11 05:30 PM |
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Telling of what exactly, why stop there? So much paranoia - why is it |
scentopine |
Dec-10-11 05:39 PM |
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I genuinely, and please believe me when I tell you that it is VERY genuine |
Number23 |
Dec-10-11 06:04 PM |
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I see you replied to my post because you don't care - lol! This thread is about racism... |
scentopine |
Dec-10-11 06:15 PM |
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No one is baiting you. You are not interesting or special |
Number23 |
Dec-10-11 06:34 PM |
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thanks. that graph indicates a huge 30% difference and |
certainot |
Dec-10-11 08:51 PM |
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That's actually an interesting point |
Number23 |
Dec-10-11 09:27 PM |
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the left's media is diverse and unfocused- 1000 coordinated radio stations |
certainot |
Dec-10-11 11:15 PM |
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You expect any politician to "represent" you? |
treestar |
Dec-10-11 02:38 PM |
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Last time I checked we were in a represetative democracy |
scentopine |
Dec-10-11 03:41 PM |
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Well, if you're gonna be PICKY... |
tblue |
Dec-10-11 06:31 PM |
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Thanks - the insanity of it all gets to me. People are being bullied here and |
scentopine |
Dec-10-11 07:04 PM |
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Yes, it's the incessant BULLYING that rips it |
tblue |
Dec-10-11 07:43 PM |
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This is a righteous rant. Best on DU2 in months. |
DevonRex |
Dec-10-11 09:37 PM |
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