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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 09:12 PM
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51. Yup...
they're the "also-rans."
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  -Darcy Richardson, aide to Senator Eugene McCarthy to continue his tradition, challenges Obama in NH! Hart2008  Oct-29-11 06:01 AM   #0 
  - Celebratory emoticons (Dial up warning)  Hart2008   Oct-29-11 06:02 AM   #1 
  - Oh great. McCarthy helped Nixon get elected.  pnwmom   Oct-29-11 06:12 AM   #2 
  - Bullshit! That was LBJ and his war. Still, Nixon needed RFK's death to win. NT  Hart2008   Oct-29-11 06:13 AM   #3 
  - No, he didn't: Nixon would've beaten RFK easier than he did Humphrey. Indeed, RFK was the candidate  apocalypsehow   Oct-30-11 12:59 AM   #54 
     - Uh, so that is why RFK was assassinated, to HURT NIXON?  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 02:24 PM   #63 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-30-11 03:50 PM   #72 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-01-11 03:09 PM   #108 
     - What are you basing that on? I think the historical record suggests  coalition_unwilling   Nov-08-11 12:18 PM   #118 
     - LOL! And you know this how?  No Elephants   Dec-30-11 06:31 PM   #139 
  - The Vietnam War got Nixon elected.  leveymg   Oct-29-11 06:29 AM   #4 
  - Right on! NT  Hart2008   Oct-29-11 06:35 AM   #5 
  - self delete dupe.  Hart2008   Oct-29-11 06:35 AM   #6 
  - Then don't expect that having a challenger now will improve Obama for the general election.  pnwmom   Oct-29-11 01:57 PM   #28 
  - Don't worry. THere is no challenger now. This Darcy person is one of a dozen or so no-names that  stevenleser   Oct-29-11 08:46 PM   #46 
  - Assuming a primary challenger always hurts an incumbent has no grounding in reality.  No Elephants   Dec-30-11 06:39 PM   #141 
  - Yap, I still recall "Nixon has a secret plan to end Viet-Nam war"  golfguru   Oct-29-11 09:50 PM   #52 
  - The plan was to play politics with the war for four years to help his reelection. NT  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 02:21 PM   #62 
  - Good thing he kept it a secret. We don't cotton to no war ending.  No Elephants   Jan-11-12 02:11 PM   #149 
  - Nope, it most certainly did not. What got Nixon elected was stunts like McCarthy's, plus all the  apocalypsehow   Oct-30-11 01:13 AM   #56 
  - What polling data do you cite for the assertion that LBJ could have won in '68?  Hart2008   Oct-31-11 04:39 AM   #95 
  - I have studied the history closely and your account is, at the very  coalition_unwilling   Nov-08-11 12:29 PM   #122 
  - So how many shooting wars are we currently in?  golfguru   Dec-12-11 01:10 PM   #133 
  - No, Nixon's promise to end the war got Nixon elected. As did voting machines and the usual  No Elephants   Dec-30-11 06:33 PM   #140 
  - That was what I thought! Nothing to yee haw about.  MADem   Oct-29-11 06:54 AM   #7 
  - In order to remember history, one must first learn it in the first place.  Hart2008   Oct-29-11 06:59 AM   #9 
  - That's not quite accurate, either. Domestic unrest got Nixon elected.  MADem   Oct-29-11 07:41 AM   #17 
  - And McCarthy told the protesters to clean up and work within the system for change.  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 02:35 PM   #65 
  - Do you ever post a link?  No Elephants   Dec-30-11 06:49 PM   #145 
  - The simplistic assumption that a primary challenger HELPS an incumbent in the general election  pnwmom   Oct-29-11 01:54 PM   #26 
     - McCarthy and RFK helped the party in the general election by forcing LBJ back to his ranch.  Hart2008   Oct-29-11 02:03 PM   #29 
     - McCarthy never helped Humphrey in the general. Humphrey would have had a much  pnwmom   Oct-29-11 02:20 PM   #33 
     - McCarthy did endorse Humphrey in '68. LBJ wouldn't let HHH oppose the war.  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 02:53 PM   #67 
        - Actually LBJ did endorse Humphrey. Made radio addresses for him and appeared at the final big rally  WI_DEM   Oct-31-11 10:33 AM   #100 
     - True, LBJ had lost the support of the left and he never had the support of the right.  No Elephants   Dec-30-11 06:44 PM   #143 
     - The assumption that a primary challenger always hurts is even more simplistic.  No Elephants   Dec-30-11 06:48 PM   #144 
     - It does not square with some INTERPRETATIONs of history.  No Elephants   Jan-11-12 02:17 PM   #150 
  - LOL!  No Elephants   Dec-30-11 06:41 PM   #142 
  - McCarthy also supported Reagan in 1980,  bornskeptic   Oct-29-11 06:57 AM   #8 
  - The party moved to the right, and he refused to move right with it.  Hart2008   Oct-29-11 07:01 AM   #10 
  - So that justifies McCarthy's endorsement of Reagan in 1980....uhhhh, how, exactly?  apocalypsehow   Oct-30-11 01:04 AM   #55 
     - Even great men are occasionally wrong. He had deep philosophical issues with Carter's neoliberalism  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 02:49 PM   #66 
        - "McCarthy didn't think Reagan could be any worse" - That's the best you got? It's a pretty meager  apocalypsehow   Oct-30-11 04:07 PM   #74 
           - Uh, Eugene McCarthy isn't running this year.  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 04:15 PM   # 
           - By the bye, for those just catching up wondering why so many dodges and evasions and now this  apocalypsehow   Oct-30-11 04:19 PM   #81 
              - We are all wondering why you have so many dodges and evasions.NT  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 05:31 PM   #91 
              - LOL!  No Elephants   Dec-30-11 06:50 PM   #146 
           - Uh, Eugene McCarthy isn't running this year.  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 04:15 PM   #77 
              - Now you attempt to change the subject, again. I would too, if the facts were so inconveniently not  apocalypsehow   Oct-30-11 04:17 PM   #78 
                 - You want to judge a great Dem based on one error in his career?  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 04:19 PM   #80 
                    - Now you begin quoting the Bible: what's next in lieu of a factual rebuttal? A hymn?  apocalypsehow   Oct-30-11 04:24 PM   #84 
                    - "Silence is the true friend that never betrays."-Confucius NT  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 04:31 PM   #87 
                       - More fun with irrelevant quotes and other evasions in lieu of facts. Discussion concluded. n/t.  apocalypsehow   Oct-30-11 04:34 PM   #88 
                          - Discussion concluded without any facts referenced or cited by you.  Hart2008   Oct-31-11 04:37 AM   #94 
                    - I never "judged" McCarthy based on "one error": I judged his actions within the context of that "one  apocalypsehow   Oct-30-11 04:27 PM   #85 
                       - Try citing references for your "facts" which are so irrefutable.  Hart2008   Oct-31-11 04:35 AM   #93 
  - I'd forgotten about that. Ugh. n/t  pnwmom   Oct-29-11 01:55 PM   #27 
  - I actually knew him.  Scruffy1   Oct-30-11 12:16 AM   #53 
  - Which is to say that in '68 and '72 you think he would have been worse than Nixon?  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 03:38 PM   #70 
  - I once sat on a panel with a colleague whose assessment of him was the same. It was only anecdote,  apocalypsehow   Oct-30-11 05:44 PM   #92 
  - I can only wonder what assessment your colleagues and stuents have of your opinions.  Hart2008   Oct-31-11 04:44 AM   #96 
  - Unlike Nixon?  No Elephants   Jan-11-12 02:20 PM   #151 
  - McCarthy's challenge to LBJ was finance largely by one wealthy doner.  Hart2008   Oct-31-11 04:53 AM   #97 
  - Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, you can't get fooled again.  shotten99   Oct-31-11 10:38 AM   #101 
  - gee. who knew nixon would have beat RFK?  newspeak   Nov-01-11 12:53 PM   #106 
  - Explain to me what did McCarthy do to lead the augury of Nixon victory in 1968?  DisabledDem   Dec-24-11 04:50 PM   #137 
  - Bullshit.  No Elephants   Dec-30-11 06:30 PM   #138 
  - Bless his heart... The New Democrats, which he Chaired, are a centrist DLC faction.  jefferson_dem   Oct-29-11 07:15 AM   #11 
  - No, before Clinton, the New Dems were not DLCers.  Hart2008   Oct-29-11 07:19 AM   #12 
  - According to these articles from 1989, Hart didn't start it and wasn't actively involved  fishwax   Oct-29-11 03:10 PM   #39 
  - Sports handicapper?...  SidDithers   Oct-30-11 05:55 AM   #60 
  - Thanks for that info. I had thought the New Dems were always DLC shits.  No Elephants   Jan-11-12 02:24 PM   #152 
  - I think that's a different group  fishwax   Oct-29-11 03:00 PM   #37 
     - Right! The DLC stole the name to market itself. It sounded better than Repuke Lite.  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 02:19 PM   #61 
  - Seems Richardson may not be much of a Democrat after all...but likes to try to play spoiler.  jefferson_dem   Oct-29-11 07:24 AM   #13 
  - The banking industrys dirtiest secret is that its half socialist, and in the worst sense  Hart2008   Oct-29-11 07:27 AM   #14 
     - No, just that he's not actually a Democrat. He's run under the "Consumer Party" label too.  jefferson_dem   Oct-29-11 07:31 AM   #15 
        - And Leon Panetta and Robert Gates were Repukes who now serve in Obama's cabinet.  Hart2008   Oct-29-11 01:53 PM   #25 
        - OOOOPS! I forgot the former "Goldwater Girl" who is now Secretary of State! NT  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 02:58 PM   #68 
        - No-names that put themselves on Presidential primary ballots usually are pretty odd cats.  stevenleser   Oct-29-11 08:49 PM   #47 
  - Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!  JoePhilly   Oct-29-11 07:31 AM   #16 
  - Who? Was he on 'Married with Children?'  BklnDem75   Oct-29-11 07:47 AM   #18 
  - Darcy will probably end up with about 5% of the NH vote. He and Hart2008 will proclaim victory.  WI_DEM   Oct-29-11 09:53 AM   #19 
  - According to the nationwide polls 20% of Dems want another candidate.  Hart2008   Oct-29-11 02:09 PM   #30 
  - Keep dreaming, old chum.  Arkana   Oct-29-11 02:57 PM   #35 
  - Have the 20% been clamoring for "Darcy"? They're even more eff'd up than previously thought.  Tarheel_Dem   Oct-30-11 02:09 AM   #57 
     - The 20% asked for democratic elections and Darcy answered their call. NT  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 03:50 PM   #73 
        - !  Tarheel_Dem   Oct-30-11 04:20 PM   #82 
  - He'll have to share the anti-Obama vote with twelve other candidates:  Freddie Stubbs   Nov-01-11 02:51 PM   #107 
  - Ahahahaha.  Arkana   Oct-29-11 10:02 AM   #20 
  - Mickey Mouse will get more votes.  Ikonoklast   Oct-29-11 10:07 AM   #21 
  - Did Mickey pay the $1000 filing fee? NT  Hart2008   Oct-29-11 02:10 PM   #31 
     - Unlike that nobody Darcy, Mickey knows better than to waste his money  Ikonoklast   Oct-29-11 02:59 PM   #36 
     - He doesn't need to. He's still a more credible candidate  Arkana   Oct-29-11 03:01 PM   #38 
        - And Mickey didn't waste $1000 like the other no-name losers. LMAO  stevenleser   Oct-29-11 08:54 PM   #50 
  - why not just accept the reality that President Obama is not going to have a serious challenger in  Douglas Carpenter   Oct-29-11 11:21 AM   #22 
  - OMGz!! How will Lee Mercer Jr respond?!?  tritsofme   Oct-29-11 12:17 PM   #23 
  - Bwaha  great white snark   Oct-29-11 12:21 PM   #24 
  - hehe n/t  fishwax   Oct-29-11 02:38 PM   #34 
  - Ha!  Number23   Oct-29-11 04:25 PM   #42 
  - Not 100% sure but I think a hotwire hookup will be employed somehow. nt  stevenleser   Oct-29-11 08:53 PM   #49 
  - darcy richardson is all up in lee mercers house with disease....  dionysus   Oct-31-11 10:46 AM   #102 
  - !  Tarheel_Dem   Oct-30-11 02:27 PM   #64 
  - Hey look, I found a picture of Gary Hart rising out of the pumpkin patch!  FSogol   Oct-29-11 02:11 PM   #32 
  - I think Charlie brown's sister Sally sums up the wait for the "Great Primary Opponent" very well ...  JoePhilly   Oct-29-11 04:05 PM   #40 
     - And the OP (as Linus)  FSogol   Oct-29-11 04:24 PM   #41 
        - You get to be Pig-Pen!!! NT  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 03:36 PM   #69 
  - NOBODY in the MSM even mentioned this. That's because this guy is not a serious candidate.  jenmito   Oct-29-11 08:12 PM   #43 
  - Exactly, there are always one or two dozen no-name losers who put their names on the prez primary  stevenleser   Oct-29-11 08:51 PM   #48 
  - Yup...  jenmito   Oct-29-11 09:12 PM   #51 
  - The M$M never reports any real news. That's why we have the Internet.  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 05:27 PM   #90 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-29-11 08:36 PM   #44 
  - This is nothing special. There are always no-names who run. We knew that before this.  stevenleser   Oct-29-11 08:44 PM   #45 
  - "advertising manager and financial services consultant"  Tarheel_Dem   Oct-30-11 02:24 AM   #58 
  - ROFL...  SidDithers   Oct-30-11 05:53 AM   #59 
  - After 10 years working for Merril Lynch, I'm sure he's got a lot of great ideas to help the poor.  Robb   Oct-30-11 03:49 PM   #71 
  - I look forward to hearing his ideas regardless of his employer in this bad economy.  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 04:10 PM   #75 
  - He sent a ton of money to Nader in 2000, for crying out loud.  Robb   Oct-30-11 04:15 PM   #76 
     - Nader used to be Dem too before the DLC took over the party.  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 04:23 PM   #83 
        - And Lieberman used to be a Democrat, too.  Robb   Oct-30-11 04:30 PM   #86 
           - People like Lieberman and the DLC made old Dems reconsider the party.  Hart2008   Oct-30-11 04:36 PM   #89 
  - It'll be interesting to see how this goes over with the OWS protestors.  Tarheel_Dem   Oct-30-11 04:18 PM   #79 
     - Darcy Richardson/Cornel West 2012!11!11 feel it!!1!!  dionysus   Oct-31-11 10:28 AM   #99 
        - Aw Jeez. Is that what he looks like? He's got a fucked up grill for starters.  Tarheel_Dem   Oct-31-11 11:34 AM   #103 
  - oh happy day!!1!1!  dionysus   Oct-31-11 10:27 AM   #98 
  - The anti-Obama people are really scraping the bottom of the barrel  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-31-11 11:42 AM   #104 
  - Yup.  Splinter Cell   Oct-31-11 12:39 PM   #105 
  - They've been scraping so hard, the bottom has fallen out  NYC Liberal   Nov-01-11 03:13 PM   #109 
  - So, anything new from Darcy Richardson yet?...  SidDithers   Nov-07-11 08:02 PM   #110 
  - !  Tarheel_Dem   Nov-07-11 10:30 PM   #111 
     - hey! you spit water on me! thems.. fightin' woids!  dionysus   Nov-08-11 08:49 AM   #113 
        - Dion, don't fight me. Fight Darcy!  Tarheel_Dem   Nov-08-11 09:36 AM   #114 
           - i ain't messing with the Brothers of the Effed Up Teeth.... that's all you...  dionysus   Nov-08-11 09:55 AM   #115 
              - Quit it! You made me a pee a little bit!  Tarheel_Dem   Nov-08-11 10:42 AM   #116 
  - kick for FAIL!  dionysus   Nov-08-11 08:47 AM   #112 
  - Is anyone fooled into believing this isn't a bizarre face-saving effort by the OP?  stevenleser   Nov-08-11 11:04 AM   #117 
  - Too late to rec this. Plan to send a nominal donation soon. - n/t  coalition_unwilling   Nov-08-11 12:19 PM   #119 
  - In that case, allow me to interest you in this bridge I have for sale. You should see the traffic  stevenleser   Nov-08-11 12:23 PM   #120 
  - He'll soon have enough money...  BklnDem75   Nov-08-11 12:25 PM   #121 
  - I think this thread needs to stay alive until after the NH primary...nt  SidDithers   Nov-15-11 09:07 PM   #123 
  - I think it needs to say alive... FOREVER...  Number23   Nov-15-11 10:52 PM   #124 
     - WHO???  CakeGrrl   Nov-15-11 10:56 PM   #125 
  - ABSOLUTELY *ZERO* REC'S. Life must be miserable for you, especially following a loser like HART!  Liberal_Stalwart71   Nov-15-11 11:12 PM   #126 
  - How many unrecs a thread get determines if an OP's life is miserable? Sounds as though you may need  No Elephants   Jan-11-12 02:28 PM   #153 
  - No thanks. A financial consultant and blogger??  madinmaryland   Nov-16-11 10:55 AM   #127 
  - Well, it's been a week since we last checked...  SidDithers   Nov-23-11 03:10 PM   #128 
  - !  Tarheel_Dem   Nov-23-11 05:23 PM   #129 
     - This thread would be a lot more fun if the OP hadn't fled the scene...nt  SidDithers   Nov-23-11 08:46 PM   #130 
        - Is Darcy a no-show? Did he find out that progressives wouldn't get behind a "financial consultant"?  Tarheel_Dem   Nov-23-11 08:58 PM   #131 
  - One last kick...nt  SidDithers   Dec-12-11 11:55 AM   #132 
  - I'll kick your kick.  Ikonoklast   Dec-16-11 01:09 PM   #134 
     - Kickin' your kick!  Tarheel_Dem   Dec-16-11 05:04 PM   #135 
        - You guys are SO BAD!  Number23   Dec-18-11 09:00 PM   #136 
  - I'll give a kick...but, then I'm from the Viet Nam War Gen...so I'm biased..  KoKo   Jan-06-12 07:40 PM   #147 
  - NH Democratic Primary Results...  SidDithers   Jan-11-12 09:57 AM   #148 
  - Who said it was going to be a squeaker?  No Elephants   Jan-11-12 02:29 PM   #154 
  - Oh dear, this is the LAST thing we needed.  AverageJoe90   Jan-14-12 11:46 PM   #155 
 

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