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Sat Nov-19-11 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #42 |
| 44. "U.C. Davis Calls for Investigation After Pepper Spraying" (November 19, 2011) |
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Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 10:06 PM by ClarkUSA
People are making a stink. Police use of pepper spray on a dozen protesters at University of California, Davis, on Friday sparked calls for the resignation of the university’s chancellor and the start of an investigation into the incident. Videos of the Davis incident uploaded to YouTube show police officers dousing the protesters — mostly students, according to local reports — with orange pepper spray, after repeatedly asking them to disperse from the main quad on campus. The protesters were seated with their arms linked on a sidewalk. Eyewitnesses uploaded their recordings late Friday. In a statement on Saturday that acknowledged the role of the eyewitnesses in raising awareness about the police’s behavior, the university’s chancellor, Linda P.B. Katehi, said she was saddened by “the events.” “The use of pepper spray as shown on the video is chilling to us all and raises many questions about how best to handle situations like this,” Ms. Katehi wrote. Her statement said that she was forming a task force and asking university officials to review existing policies about encampments like the one that was erected on the campus this week. http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/19/video-of-po... As the article points out, the police version of events is contrary to what actually happened.
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| -W.H. with the '99 percent'-ers: Pres. Obama said he "sympathizes with protesters' broad grievances" |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-16-11 07:48 PM |
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Yes we camp! |
gateley |
Oct-16-11 08:29 PM |
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"And spelled correctly." lol |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-16-11 10:01 PM |
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Kick for those who missed it |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 05:09 PM |
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So why hasn't he |
polmaven |
Nov-19-11 05:47 PM |
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Because that's patently ridiculous, dangerous, and absurd? nt |
TheWraith |
Nov-20-11 03:34 PM |
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Well, of course, |
polmaven |
Nov-21-11 08:23 AM |
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That's all well and good. |
Brigid |
Nov-19-11 06:20 PM |
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Both OWS and police have done their share of wrongdoing and should stop it. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 06:35 PM |
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They're still looking for the hammer. |
rug |
Nov-19-11 07:15 PM |
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You're still looking for relevance. Gratuitous flashing of a unrelated photo = violence porn. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 07:24 PM |
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Yes I suppose of a picture of someone who's skull is fractured by the police is irrelevant. |
rug |
Nov-19-11 07:26 PM |
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That's a nonsensical stretch. It's irrelevant to your accompanying "hammer" rhetoric. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 07:29 PM |
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You're the one saying protesters are attacking police with hammers. |
rug |
Nov-19-11 07:33 PM |
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That's a false statement. An OWS protester attacked police cars with a hammer. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 07:35 PM |
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Equating police violence with these protests to make brownie points for POTUS is disgusting. |
rug |
Nov-19-11 07:43 PM |
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WTF are you spewing now? Making up strawman arguments in order to attack the POTUS is disgusting. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 07:46 PM |
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Read your headline before you sputter. |
rug |
Nov-19-11 07:52 PM |
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My headline is factual, unlike your personal attack rhetoric. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 07:53 PM |
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So is that photo. Unlike your lame line about seeking relevance. |
rug |
Nov-19-11 08:05 PM |
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Your snide "hammer" aside was irrelevant to the violence porn. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 08:08 PM |
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Anyone who cared would not equate the protests he supports with the police violence against them. |
rug |
Nov-19-11 08:14 PM |
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Anyone who values the truth would not continue to make strawman arguments. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 08:16 PM |
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I agree. Hence my disagreement with you. |
rug |
Nov-19-11 08:20 PM |
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I'm dubious, considering you keep making false claims about what I said. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 08:24 PM |
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I'm looking deep inside that sentence but I have yet to find sense in it. |
rug |
Nov-19-11 08:25 PM |
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I have yet to find sense of your strawman argument re: what I said. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 08:27 PM |
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Where was molotov cocktail thrown? |
Hutzpa |
Nov-19-11 07:34 PM |
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Utah. A 20 year old threw one at a Wells Fargo bank. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 07:42 PM |
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You are citing one instances where molotov cocktail was prevented |
Hutzpa |
Nov-19-11 08:47 PM |
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Wrong. This is what I actually said. --> |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 09:05 PM |
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Huh? Where are you getting this? |
Brigid |
Nov-19-11 07:46 PM |
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Google is your friend. I read the news. I've been down with OWS in Zucotti/Liberty Plaza Park. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 07:52 PM |
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So this justifies brutality against those who had nothing to do with that? |
Brigid |
Nov-19-11 08:06 PM |
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That's a strawman argument. I never said that. You asked, I answered. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 08:11 PM |
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You don't seem to have a problem with police brutality. |
Brigid |
Nov-19-11 08:17 PM |
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You don't seem to have a problem with making ridiculous comments about people you don't know. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 08:19 PM |
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Yes, I can see your point. |
Brigid |
Nov-19-11 08:27 PM |
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Apples and oranges. Gaddafi was threatening genocide. Syria's Assad is slaughtering his own people. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 08:41 PM |
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So we can expect the same for the guy who pepper sprayed |
Hutzpa |
Nov-19-11 09:12 PM |
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If people make as big a stink about it as we did about that NYPD chief, that could happen. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 09:20 PM |
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"U.C. Davis Calls for Investigation After Pepper Spraying" (November 19, 2011) |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 10:03 PM |
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That thug/criminal should be out of uniform |
Hutzpa |
Nov-19-11 10:08 PM |
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"Officers in pepper spray incident put on leave" (November 20, 2011) |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 05:45 PM |
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There is this difference: |
Vattel |
Nov-19-11 10:50 PM |
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Name the case law summary. What exact federal law has been broken by what exact incident? |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:37 AM |
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42 USC 1983 |
rug |
Nov-20-11 04:58 PM |
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So? WTF exactly has section 1983 got to do with Pres. Obama? All you've got is empty rhetoric. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 06:49 PM |
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Everything. It's a violation of federal law to deprive a person of civil rights under color of law. |
rug |
Nov-20-11 07:06 PM |
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Then why isn't anyone else insisting this besides you? Hmm? |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 07:21 PM |
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I must be the only one on the internets who thought of it. |
rug |
Nov-20-11 09:04 PM |
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Gee, I wonder why? |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 09:18 PM |
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Ok, let's discuss an 18 year old incident while the state attacks protestors on a live stream. |
rug |
Nov-20-11 09:33 PM |
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Answer my questions re: Waco and Clinton's ATF. You've been avoiding it so far. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 09:39 PM |
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You brought up Waco. I'm glad you realize how ridiculous that is. |
rug |
Nov-20-11 09:40 PM |
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You refuse to answer my questions re: Waco. What's ridiculous is your invocation of section 1983. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 09:42 PM |
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1983 applies directly to the police actions you whitewash. |
rug |
Nov-20-11 09:44 PM |
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That's false. Yet another strawman argument of a personal attack? Tsk tsk. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 09:47 PM |
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Lol, sputtering cliches. |
rug |
Nov-20-11 09:50 PM |
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Oh, the irony. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 09:53 PM |
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And the rolling smiley cliche is the perfect ending. |
rug |
Nov-20-11 09:57 PM |
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cliche = your constant litany of complaints since 2008 re: Pres. Obama what he does/doesn't do |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 09:59 PM |
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The US Constitution is federal (constitutional) law |
Vattel |
Nov-20-11 07:22 PM |
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So? The officers weren't feds. They were employees of UC Davis. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 07:23 PM |
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Many violations of federal law are committed by persons who are not feds. |
Vattel |
Nov-20-11 08:37 PM |
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Who has been charged with a federal crime in relation to OWS? |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 08:41 PM |
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Violations of constitutional rights are not necessarily crimes. |
Vattel |
Nov-20-11 09:28 PM |
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That doesn't make sense. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 09:35 PM |
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What doesn't make sense? |
Vattel |
Nov-20-11 09:45 PM |
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It's empty rhetoric. I'm not interested in your subjective opinion re: what Pres. Obama should do. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 09:49 PM |
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false equivalence |
rapturedbyrobots |
Nov-19-11 11:54 PM |
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Strawman argument. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:14 AM |
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Apparently you've never heard of subtext or deep reading |
rapturedbyrobots |
Nov-20-11 02:03 PM |
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Trying to justify your lame strawman argument with more strawmen blathering? Yawn. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 07:37 PM |
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It's not a strawman argument. |
Chef Eric |
Nov-20-11 09:51 PM |
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It was, indeed. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 09:58 PM |
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You implied they were comparable by equally condemning the "wrongdoing" of both sides. nt |
Chef Eric |
Nov-20-11 10:14 PM |
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Wrong again. Not interested in reading the subthread started with Reply #31, eh? |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:23 PM |
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So you keep saying! But nobody else here seems to be convinced. |
Chef Eric |
Nov-20-11 10:31 PM |
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Wrong. There are plenty of people who agree with me. This OP went to the Greatest Page. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:37 PM |
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Yes, I'm sure there are. They're just silent. nt |
Chef Eric |
Nov-20-11 10:42 PM |
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Obama supporters make up a very large majority of the Democratic base. Get used to it. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:48 PM |
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That's great, but I was talking about DUers. I think you know that. |
Chef Eric |
Nov-20-11 10:53 PM |
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Your "talking about DUers" is subjective opinion, which is not of interest to me. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:57 PM |
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I see you've used quote marks in your reference to police brutality. |
Chef Eric |
Nov-20-11 09:49 PM |
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Read through the subthread starting with Reply #31. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:09 PM |
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O.K., so you were quoting somebody else. |
Chef Eric |
Nov-20-11 10:23 PM |
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You didn't read the subthread starting with Reply #31, did you? |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:27 PM |
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I know, you must be very busy. |
Chef Eric |
Nov-20-11 10:33 PM |
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This OP went to the Greatest Page, dear. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:40 PM |
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It belongs on the greatest page. |
Chef Eric |
Nov-20-11 10:49 PM |
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Whenever Pres. Obama's actions debunks demonizing memes, I get attacked for posting it. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:53 PM |
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But but this was said before the police started using pepper spray |
Hutzpa |
Nov-19-11 06:54 PM |
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See Reply #6. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-19-11 07:03 PM |
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Did you notice he has been out of the counrty? |
Nancy Waterman |
Nov-19-11 07:59 PM |
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I sure did and also saw his photos at the Asia summit. |
Hutzpa |
Nov-19-11 08:24 PM |
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K&R |
catgirl |
Nov-19-11 07:52 PM |
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Great Mr. President! |
boomerbust |
Nov-20-11 03:51 PM |
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Saying he gets it isn't enough! |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-20-11 04:45 PM |
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graph |
Enrique |
Nov-20-11 05:41 PM |
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"Obama: I'll fight to protect Wall Street reform" |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 06:48 PM |
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tip |
Skittles |
Nov-20-11 10:15 PM |
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I have. I'm not the one who mocks his list of achievements. You do that. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:30 PM |
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no one says he has no achievements |
Skittles |
Nov-20-11 10:39 PM |
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You mock his singular successes. "If you" don't "think he has done the best he can do for us"... |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:42 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-20-11 10:46 PM |
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No, I'm an Obama supporter who rises above sneering jibes by his 24/7 critics. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:58 PM |
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riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight |
Skittles |
Nov-20-11 11:19 PM |
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WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Skittles |
Nov-21-11 02:28 AM |
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Wow. Stunning graphic. |
woo me with science |
Nov-20-11 10:11 PM |
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Yes, the lack of a link to a source is remarkable. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:32 PM |
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Oh, Clark.... |
woo me with science |
Nov-20-11 10:36 PM |
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At least I link to sources, though some folks seem to have reading comprehension problems. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:45 PM |
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... |
woo me with science |
Nov-20-11 11:56 PM |
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There is no quotation at the link. |
former9thward |
Nov-20-11 07:15 PM |
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It's quite clear from the bolded text that I am quoting the author of the article. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 07:17 PM |
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And the author quoted himself not Obama. |
former9thward |
Nov-20-11 07:42 PM |
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No, I quoted the author in my OP. What's your problem? It's a valid interpetation. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 07:45 PM |
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It is not a valid interpretation at all. |
former9thward |
Nov-21-11 08:35 AM |
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What a "fierce advocate' HE'S turned out to be |
MNBrewer |
Nov-20-11 07:56 PM |
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Nothing President Obama says or does ever escapes your jeering, it seems. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 08:24 PM |
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Make that "Nothing ClarkUSA ever posts" and I'll agree with you |
MNBrewer |
Nov-20-11 08:53 PM |
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I post facts about President Obama and will continue to do so. It beats demonizing him with lies. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 08:55 PM |
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LOL |
MNBrewer |
Nov-20-11 08:59 PM |
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Thanks for kicking my OP! |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 09:10 PM |
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Apparently he's been "paying close attention" via Homeland Security... |
ClassWarrior |
Nov-20-11 09:10 PM |
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From your own source: "The White House says there’s no federal oversight." |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 09:16 PM |
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Too bad that the DU ODSers proclaim that Obama=Bush. It's patently ridiculous! K&R!!!! |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Nov-20-11 09:40 PM |
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pretty wishy-washy stuff |
Skittles |
Nov-20-11 10:14 PM |
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Not only wishy-washy, but also not a quote from Obama, |
woo me with science |
Nov-20-11 10:30 PM |
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OH TEH OUTRAGE!!! |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:36 PM |
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As if anything he says or does ever satisfies you. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:33 PM |
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It's really terrible |
woo me with science |
Nov-20-11 11:45 PM |
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THAT IS NOT A QUOTE FROM OBAMA. |
woo me with science |
Nov-20-11 10:25 PM |
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I DID NOT SAY IT WAS. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:28 PM |
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"Pres. Obama said he 'sympathizes with protesters' broad grievances;" |
woo me with science |
Nov-20-11 10:32 PM |
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Go complain to the author of the article. His interpretation is valid. Your hairsplitting is boring |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 10:35 PM |
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No, what's getting tiresome here is a pattern in which source material does not reflect |
woo me with science |
Nov-20-11 11:06 PM |
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Yawn. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-20-11 11:06 PM |
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That's called attempting to co-opt the language of the movement. |
woo me with science |
Nov-21-11 12:49 AM |
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maybe if the protesters' "broad grievances" include that banks get prosecuted TOO MUCH |
Enrique |
Nov-21-11 06:25 AM |
#138 |