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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 09:12 PM
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42. So we can expect the same for the guy who pepper sprayed
unarmed civilians, right? Can he be made an example.
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  -W.H. with the '99 percent'-ers: Pres. Obama said he "sympathizes with protesters' broad grievances" ClarkUSA  Oct-16-11 07:48 PM   #0 
  - Yes we camp!  gateley   Oct-16-11 08:29 PM   #1 
  - "And spelled correctly." lol  ClarkUSA   Oct-16-11 10:01 PM   #2 
  - Kick for those who missed it  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 05:09 PM   #3 
  - So why hasn't he  polmaven   Nov-19-11 05:47 PM   #4 
  - Because that's patently ridiculous, dangerous, and absurd? nt  TheWraith   Nov-20-11 03:34 PM   #51 
     - Well, of course,  polmaven   Nov-21-11 08:23 AM   #139 
  - That's all well and good.  Brigid   Nov-19-11 06:20 PM   #5 
  - Both OWS and police have done their share of wrongdoing and should stop it.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 06:35 PM   #6 
     - They're still looking for the hammer.  rug   Nov-19-11 07:15 PM   #9 
     - You're still looking for relevance. Gratuitous flashing of a unrelated photo = violence porn.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 07:24 PM   #10 
        - Yes I suppose of a picture of someone who's skull is fractured by the police is irrelevant.  rug   Nov-19-11 07:26 PM   #11 
           - That's a nonsensical stretch. It's irrelevant to your accompanying "hammer" rhetoric.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 07:29 PM   #12 
              - You're the one saying protesters are attacking police with hammers.  rug   Nov-19-11 07:33 PM   #13 
                 - That's a false statement. An OWS protester attacked police cars with a hammer.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 07:35 PM   #15 
                    - Equating police violence with these protests to make brownie points for POTUS is disgusting.  rug   Nov-19-11 07:43 PM   #17 
                       - WTF are you spewing now? Making up strawman arguments in order to attack the POTUS is disgusting.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 07:46 PM   #18 
                          - Read your headline before you sputter.  rug   Nov-19-11 07:52 PM   #21 
                             - My headline is factual, unlike your personal attack rhetoric.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 07:53 PM   #23 
                                - So is that photo. Unlike your lame line about seeking relevance.  rug   Nov-19-11 08:05 PM   #25 
                                   - Your snide "hammer" aside was irrelevant to the violence porn.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 08:08 PM   #27 
                                      - Anyone who cared would not equate the protests he supports with the police violence against them.  rug   Nov-19-11 08:14 PM   #29 
                                         - Anyone who values the truth would not continue to make strawman arguments.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 08:16 PM   #30 
                                            - I agree. Hence my disagreement with you.  rug   Nov-19-11 08:20 PM   #33 
                                               - I'm dubious, considering you keep making false claims about what I said.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 08:24 PM   #34 
                                                  - I'm looking deep inside that sentence but I have yet to find sense in it.  rug   Nov-19-11 08:25 PM   #36 
                                                  - I have yet to find sense of your strawman argument re: what I said.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 08:27 PM   #37 
     - Where was molotov cocktail thrown?  Hutzpa   Nov-19-11 07:34 PM   #14 
     - Utah. A 20 year old threw one at a Wells Fargo bank.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 07:42 PM   #16 
        - You are citing one instances where molotov cocktail was prevented  Hutzpa   Nov-19-11 08:47 PM   #40 
           - Wrong. This is what I actually said. -->  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 09:05 PM   #41 
     - Huh? Where are you getting this?  Brigid   Nov-19-11 07:46 PM   #19 
     - Google is your friend. I read the news. I've been down with OWS in Zucotti/Liberty Plaza Park.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 07:52 PM   #20 
        - So this justifies brutality against those who had nothing to do with that?  Brigid   Nov-19-11 08:06 PM   #26 
           - That's a strawman argument. I never said that. You asked, I answered.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 08:11 PM   #28 
              - You don't seem to have a problem with police brutality.  Brigid   Nov-19-11 08:17 PM   #31 
                 - You don't seem to have a problem with making ridiculous comments about people you don't know.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 08:19 PM   #32 
                    - Yes, I can see your point.  Brigid   Nov-19-11 08:27 PM   #38 
                       - Apples and oranges. Gaddafi was threatening genocide. Syria's Assad is slaughtering his own people.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 08:41 PM   #39 
                          - So we can expect the same for the guy who pepper sprayed  Hutzpa   Nov-19-11 09:12 PM   #42 
                             - If people make as big a stink about it as we did about that NYPD chief, that could happen.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 09:20 PM   #43 
                             - "U.C. Davis Calls for Investigation After Pepper Spraying" (November 19, 2011)  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 10:03 PM   #44 
                                - That thug/criminal should be out of uniform  Hutzpa   Nov-19-11 10:08 PM   #45 
                                   - "Officers in pepper spray incident put on leave" (November 20, 2011)  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 05:45 PM   #56 
     - There is this difference:  Vattel   Nov-19-11 10:50 PM   #46 
     - Name the case law summary. What exact federal law has been broken by what exact incident?  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:37 AM   #49 
        - 42 USC 1983  rug   Nov-20-11 04:58 PM   #54 
        - So? WTF exactly has section 1983 got to do with Pres. Obama? All you've got is empty rhetoric.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 06:49 PM   #58 
           - Everything. It's a violation of federal law to deprive a person of civil rights under color of law.  rug   Nov-20-11 07:06 PM   #59 
              - Then why isn't anyone else insisting this besides you? Hmm?  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 07:21 PM   #62 
                 - I must be the only one on the internets who thought of it.  rug   Nov-20-11 09:04 PM   #75 
                    - Gee, I wonder why?  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 09:18 PM   #79 
                       - Ok, let's discuss an 18 year old incident while the state attacks protestors on a live stream.  rug   Nov-20-11 09:33 PM   #81 
                          - Answer my questions re: Waco and Clinton's ATF. You've been avoiding it so far.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 09:39 PM   #83 
                             - You brought up Waco. I'm glad you realize how ridiculous that is.  rug   Nov-20-11 09:40 PM   #85 
                                - You refuse to answer my questions re: Waco. What's ridiculous is your invocation of section 1983.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 09:42 PM   #86 
                                   - 1983 applies directly to the police actions you whitewash.  rug   Nov-20-11 09:44 PM   #87 
                                      - That's false. Yet another strawman argument of a personal attack? Tsk tsk.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 09:47 PM   #89 
                                         - Lol, sputtering cliches.  rug   Nov-20-11 09:50 PM   #92 
                                            - Oh, the irony.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 09:53 PM   #94 
                                               - And the rolling smiley cliche is the perfect ending.  rug   Nov-20-11 09:57 PM   #95 
                                               - cliche = your constant litany of complaints since 2008 re: Pres. Obama what he does/doesn't do  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 09:59 PM   #97 
        - The US Constitution is federal (constitutional) law  Vattel   Nov-20-11 07:22 PM   #63 
           - So? The officers weren't feds. They were employees of UC Davis.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 07:23 PM   #64 
              - Many violations of federal law are committed by persons who are not feds.  Vattel   Nov-20-11 08:37 PM   #70 
                 - Who has been charged with a federal crime in relation to OWS?  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 08:41 PM   #71 
                    - Violations of constitutional rights are not necessarily crimes.  Vattel   Nov-20-11 09:28 PM   #80 
                       - That doesn't make sense.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 09:35 PM   #82 
                          - What doesn't make sense?  Vattel   Nov-20-11 09:45 PM   #88 
                             - It's empty rhetoric. I'm not interested in your subjective opinion re: what Pres. Obama should do.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 09:49 PM   #91 
     - false equivalence  rapturedbyrobots   Nov-19-11 11:54 PM   #47 
     - Strawman argument.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:14 AM   #48 
        - Apparently you've never heard of subtext or deep reading  rapturedbyrobots   Nov-20-11 02:03 PM   #50 
        - Trying to justify your lame strawman argument with more strawmen blathering? Yawn.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 07:37 PM   #65 
        - It's not a strawman argument.  Chef Eric   Nov-20-11 09:51 PM   #93 
           - It was, indeed.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 09:58 PM   #96 
              - You implied they were comparable by equally condemning the "wrongdoing" of both sides. nt  Chef Eric   Nov-20-11 10:14 PM   #101 
                 - Wrong again. Not interested in reading the subthread started with Reply #31, eh?  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:23 PM   #103 
                    - So you keep saying! But nobody else here seems to be convinced.  Chef Eric   Nov-20-11 10:31 PM   #110 
                       - Wrong. There are plenty of people who agree with me. This OP went to the Greatest Page.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:37 PM   #118 
                          - Yes, I'm sure there are. They're just silent. nt  Chef Eric   Nov-20-11 10:42 PM   #122 
                             - Obama supporters make up a very large majority of the Democratic base. Get used to it.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:48 PM   #125 
                                - That's great, but I was talking about DUers. I think you know that.  Chef Eric   Nov-20-11 10:53 PM   #127 
                                   - Your "talking about DUers" is subjective opinion, which is not of interest to me.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:57 PM   #129 
     - I see you've used quote marks in your reference to police brutality.  Chef Eric   Nov-20-11 09:49 PM   #90 
        - Read through the subthread starting with Reply #31.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:09 PM   #98 
           - O.K., so you were quoting somebody else.  Chef Eric   Nov-20-11 10:23 PM   #104 
              - You didn't read the subthread starting with Reply #31, did you?  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:27 PM   #106 
                 - I know, you must be very busy.  Chef Eric   Nov-20-11 10:33 PM   #113 
                    - This OP went to the Greatest Page, dear.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:40 PM   #120 
                       - It belongs on the greatest page.  Chef Eric   Nov-20-11 10:49 PM   #126 
                          - Whenever Pres. Obama's actions debunks demonizing memes, I get attacked for posting it.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:53 PM   #128 
  - But but this was said before the police started using pepper spray  Hutzpa   Nov-19-11 06:54 PM   #7 
  - See Reply #6.  ClarkUSA   Nov-19-11 07:03 PM   #8 
  - Did you notice he has been out of the counrty?  Nancy Waterman   Nov-19-11 07:59 PM   #24 
     - I sure did and also saw his photos at the Asia summit.  Hutzpa   Nov-19-11 08:24 PM   #35 
  - K&R  catgirl   Nov-19-11 07:52 PM   #22 
  - Great Mr. President!  boomerbust   Nov-20-11 03:51 PM   #52 
  - Saying he gets it isn't enough!  JNelson6563   Nov-20-11 04:45 PM   #53 
  - graph  Enrique   Nov-20-11 05:41 PM   #55 
  - "Obama: I'll fight to protect Wall Street reform"  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 06:48 PM   #57 
  - tip  Skittles   Nov-20-11 10:15 PM   #102 
     - I have. I'm not the one who mocks his list of achievements. You do that.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:30 PM   #108 
        - no one says he has no achievements  Skittles   Nov-20-11 10:39 PM   #119 
           - You mock his singular successes. "If you" don't "think he has done the best he can do for us"...  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:42 PM   #121 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-20-11 10:46 PM   #124 
              - No, I'm an Obama supporter who rises above sneering jibes by his 24/7 critics.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:58 PM   #130 
                 - riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight  Skittles   Nov-20-11 11:19 PM   #133 
              - WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Skittles   Nov-21-11 02:28 AM   #137 
  - Wow. Stunning graphic.  woo me with science   Nov-20-11 10:11 PM   #99 
     - Yes, the lack of a link to a source is remarkable.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:32 PM   #111 
        - Oh, Clark....  woo me with science   Nov-20-11 10:36 PM   #117 
           - At least I link to sources, though some folks seem to have reading comprehension problems.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:45 PM   #123 
              - ...  woo me with science   Nov-20-11 11:56 PM   #135 
  - There is no quotation at the link.  former9thward   Nov-20-11 07:15 PM   #60 
  - It's quite clear from the bolded text that I am quoting the author of the article.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 07:17 PM   #61 
     - And the author quoted himself not Obama.  former9thward   Nov-20-11 07:42 PM   #66 
        - No, I quoted the author in my OP. What's your problem? It's a valid interpetation.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 07:45 PM   #67 
           - It is not a valid interpretation at all.  former9thward   Nov-21-11 08:35 AM   #140 
  - What a "fierce advocate' HE'S turned out to be  MNBrewer   Nov-20-11 07:56 PM   #68 
  - Nothing President Obama says or does ever escapes your jeering, it seems.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 08:24 PM   #69 
     - Make that "Nothing ClarkUSA ever posts" and I'll agree with you  MNBrewer   Nov-20-11 08:53 PM   #72 
        - I post facts about President Obama and will continue to do so. It beats demonizing him with lies.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 08:55 PM   #73 
           - LOL  MNBrewer   Nov-20-11 08:59 PM   #74 
              - Thanks for kicking my OP!  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 09:10 PM   #77 
  - Apparently he's been "paying close attention" via Homeland Security...  ClassWarrior   Nov-20-11 09:10 PM   #76 
  - From your own source: "The White House says theres no federal oversight."  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 09:16 PM   #78 
  - Too bad that the DU ODSers proclaim that Obama=Bush. It's patently ridiculous! K&R!!!!  Liberal_Stalwart71   Nov-20-11 09:40 PM   #84 
  - pretty wishy-washy stuff  Skittles   Nov-20-11 10:14 PM   #100 
  - Not only wishy-washy, but also not a quote from Obama,  woo me with science   Nov-20-11 10:30 PM   #109 
  - OH TEH OUTRAGE!!!  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:36 PM   #116 
  - As if anything he says or does ever satisfies you.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:33 PM   #114 
     - It's really terrible  woo me with science   Nov-20-11 11:45 PM   #134 
  - THAT IS NOT A QUOTE FROM OBAMA.  woo me with science   Nov-20-11 10:25 PM   #105 
  - I DID NOT SAY IT WAS.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:28 PM   #107 
     - "Pres. Obama said he 'sympathizes with protesters' broad grievances;"  woo me with science   Nov-20-11 10:32 PM   #112 
        - Go complain to the author of the article. His interpretation is valid. Your hairsplitting is boring  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 10:35 PM   #115 
           - No, what's getting tiresome here is a pattern in which source material does not reflect  woo me with science   Nov-20-11 11:06 PM   #131 
              - Yawn.  ClarkUSA   Nov-20-11 11:06 PM   #132 
  - That's called attempting to co-opt the language of the movement.  woo me with science   Nov-21-11 12:49 AM   #136 
  - maybe if the protesters' "broad grievances" include that banks get prosecuted TOO MUCH  Enrique   Nov-21-11 06:25 AM   #138 

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