O is 44
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Sun Dec-20-09 07:21 PM
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have at least one or two willing Conservadems. If you have not noticed the Republicans are the party of NO. They will not cross over in this debate. The answer to your question why so few can obstruct what the majority wants is a perfect example of why the Senate is broken. It is not representative government. There are two senators from every state which is not right since some states are lot smaller then others. And it is the small states that are able to change legislation that affects more people then the populations of their states combined.
The Senate must be fixed, that is why I laugh at those who want to primary Obama, no matter who gets in as President they will still have to deal with a broken senate. I think Obama could have used the bully pulpit to be more forceful and call out obstructionist but the way these prima donna's act their feelings would be hurt and they would vote no out of spite. These obstructionists are evil. I think your anger is directed towards one basket and that is not productive to the progressive cause.
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| -Statement of U.S. Senator Russ Feingold in Support of the Senate Health Care Bill |
ProSense |
Dec-20-09 04:54 PM |
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Hardly a riunging enorsement....and a clear rebuke to Rahmbama |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 04:58 PM |
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How did Obama throw the public option |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 05:04 PM |
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He told Rahm to give Lieberman what he wants. |
tblue |
Dec-20-09 05:11 PM |
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How would we have gotten to 60? |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 05:17 PM |
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that's the difference between the progressives on DU and the progressives in Congress |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 05:21 PM |
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I know I really don't have a |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 05:28 PM |
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I'm not mad at Feingold -- I'm mad at those who forced him to accept shit |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 05:30 PM |
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Yeah, what gun was held to his head? |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 05:32 PM |
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LOL, seriously |
Sultana |
Dec-20-09 09:02 PM |
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"forced him"? Feingold is voting for the bill because he wants to. |
ProSense |
Dec-20-09 05:36 PM |
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I repeat -- He is being forced to accept shit and he basically said as much |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 06:07 PM |
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He's being forced to vote for something he wants to vote against? |
ProSense |
Dec-20-09 06:09 PM |
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The same pressure for "party unity" that people like you try to impose here |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 06:12 PM |
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Oh, poor you. n/t |
ProSense |
Dec-20-09 06:13 PM |
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Not asking for sympathy. Just sick of the crap some of you like to pull. |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 06:59 PM |
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You're better off than Feingold |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 06:29 PM |
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Can I make a suggestion? Go to a dictionary and get a new set of talking points |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 06:57 PM |
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Reality is tiresome? |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 07:00 PM |
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The claim that one particular opinion is "reality" is tiresome |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 07:20 PM |
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And you need to reread his |
ProSense |
Dec-20-09 06:11 PM |
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Yeah ok, he is forced to go against his |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 06:12 PM |
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Feingold has a lot of credibility -- I am not criticizing him |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 06:15 PM |
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Why will you not give the same benefit |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 06:18 PM |
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Feingold has been forceful all along, whether you heard him or not |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 07:04 PM |
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Republicans get bills passed because they |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 07:21 PM |
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I agree that Senate is broken |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 07:29 PM |
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Ok, I agree with you this was not |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 07:41 PM |
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Okay, we are in basic agreement |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 07:43 PM |
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That would only be possible from a position of strength |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 06:32 PM |
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If the White House is so weak, please explain how they "forced" |
Arkana |
Dec-20-09 05:36 PM |
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The SWH was weak earlier and caved into the right wing |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 06:11 PM |
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And you know this how? Stop peddling BS n/t |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 06:14 PM |
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Stop being such a blind partisan |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 06:19 PM |
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I am not a blind partisan.... |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 06:26 PM |
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We do not have the votes because the WH and lkeadership were.... |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 06:56 PM |
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How is Lieberman to be made less Liebermanish? |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 07:03 PM |
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So now it is the WH's job to make sure |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 07:06 PM |
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But if he had a "spine" wouldn't he filibuster it? |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 05:38 PM |
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TO be hionest -- If progressives had made more threats earlier there would have been a better bill |
Armstead |
Dec-20-09 06:10 PM |
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Another corporate sellout |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 04:58 PM |
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Oh yeah? Well he's the best of the lot. |
tblue |
Dec-20-09 05:07 PM |
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The poster was being sarcastic. |
Cha |
Dec-20-09 05:12 PM |
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Since that's been the basic message of many on DU the past couple weeks, ... |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-09 05:15 PM |
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On edit, I'm told you were being sarcastic. |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-09 05:14 PM |
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Yeah, treestar! Yeah, a smiley would |
Cha |
Dec-20-09 05:32 PM |
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Fortunately I have not passed the editing time period |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 05:37 PM |
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.. |
Cha |
Dec-20-09 05:47 PM |
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Having to actually produce tends to make people more realistic |
NJmaverick |
Dec-20-09 04:59 PM |
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I just read in the Barack Obama Forum |
Cha |
Dec-20-09 05:13 PM |
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Exactly where I stand on the issue. |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-09 05:13 PM |
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The Mandatory Insurance Customer Bill |
Goldstein1984 |
Dec-20-09 05:17 PM |
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Sad and pathetic, but at least.. |
ananda |
Dec-20-09 05:31 PM |
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historic capitulation would hit the mark |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 06:09 PM |
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He blames the Administration's lack of support. Thank you, Senator. |
tekisui |
Dec-20-09 05:41 PM |
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Yeah, keep believing that if that makes |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 05:50 PM |
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Ever heard of the leader of the Democratic Party? |
tekisui |
Dec-20-09 05:53 PM |
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Why aren't they marching in lockstep behind their leader? |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 05:58 PM |
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And your point? |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 06:01 PM |
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And he is the leader of the executive branch, the left squad keeps |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 06:34 PM |
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Sheldon Whitehouse had a profound statement as well.. |
DCBob |
Dec-20-09 05:53 PM |
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Very nice to see this while other |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 06:06 PM |
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Why do we assume that the public option or a reduction in medicare age for that matter |
DeschutesRiver |
Dec-20-09 05:55 PM |
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Feingold's job is fortunately safe, but there's going to be lots of other worthy Democrats |
brentspeak |
Dec-20-09 06:32 PM |
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Poor Senate, not only did they |
O is 44 |
Dec-20-09 06:40 PM |
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The cost of inaction is simply to high |
gardenista |
Dec-20-09 06:35 PM |
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Rhetoric does not take away from the FACT that we are screwed |
Garam_Masala |
Dec-20-09 08:56 PM |
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