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| -Thanks To The Obama Administration, Hedge Fund Billionaire Sentenced To 11 Yrs. + $10 Million Fine |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-13-11 02:26 PM |
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shouldn't this be bookmarked |
Sheepshank |
Oct-13-11 02:30 PM |
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Obama just said this week that there was no crime committed |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-13-11 09:23 PM |
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Nonsense! Obama said that MORTGAGES were not a crime. |
banned from Kos |
Oct-13-11 10:06 PM |
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The mortgages themselves may not be a crime (and that's debatable) but many, if not most, of |
1monster |
Oct-14-11 12:34 AM |
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There's been a $20,000,000,000 settlement which will go entirely to helping distressed homeowners. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 11:50 AM |
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Yes, allowing them to buy their way out of their crimes. |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-14-11 01:53 PM |
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Now you're making it worse. |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-14-11 01:21 AM |
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President Obama never said that. Give us the exact full quote along with a link to the news source. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 11:46 AM |
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What was this person's role in the economic collapse? Less than certain members of the Obama admin? |
GOTV |
Oct-14-11 12:13 PM |
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Thanks for finding that |
treestar |
Oct-13-11 02:31 PM |
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You, sir, are on a roll. Thank you. |
great white snark |
Oct-13-11 02:40 PM |
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Yes OF COURSE it all hot air and there are no grievances. |
chill_wind |
Oct-13-11 02:51 PM |
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Excellent! Another Wall St. Crook Goes to Prison! |
MineralMan |
Oct-13-11 02:37 PM |
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"The 11-year sentence was significantly lower than the range of roughly 19 to 24 years requested" |
Arctic Dave |
Oct-13-11 02:38 PM |
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... |
Whisp |
Oct-13-11 02:39 PM |
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Trust me, what ever you can dish out, I can take. |
Arctic Dave |
Oct-13-11 03:05 PM |
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I can definitely tell you didn't bother to read the article. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-13-11 02:40 PM |
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Oct-13-11 03:11 PM |
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Your conclusion is unwarranted |
nichomachus |
Oct-13-11 02:42 PM |
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LOL! Unlike my OP headline, your empty rhetoric is unsupported by any facts. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-13-11 02:44 PM |
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NYTimes Editorial Board: Obama's foreclosure settlement deal with big banks would let them off hook |
brentspeak |
Oct-13-11 03:14 PM |
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Still cherrypicking negative op-eds? |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-13-11 03:21 PM |
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So that's the guy that wrecked the economy? I'm glad they got him! |
GOTV |
Oct-14-11 12:17 PM |
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Yup....just a drop in the bucket....a sacrificial lamb if you will... |
truebrit71 |
Oct-13-11 02:48 PM |
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+1000 |
chill_wind |
Oct-13-11 02:54 PM |
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Oct-13-11 02:56 PM |
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And there's your problem right there... |
chill_wind |
Oct-13-11 08:14 PM |
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So what is the story of that darn cute dog popping up into the |
midnight |
Oct-14-11 12:11 AM |
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Oct-13-11 11:20 PM |
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+1000 |
stockholmer |
Oct-14-11 01:08 AM |
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Wrong. Did you bother to read the entire OP? |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:07 PM |
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And |
ProSense |
Oct-13-11 03:04 PM |
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+1 "The number of prosecutions will never be enough." |
great white snark |
Oct-13-11 03:25 PM |
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How come you forgot THESE links? |
brentspeak |
Oct-13-11 05:44 PM |
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Hmmm. |
chill_wind |
Oct-13-11 08:18 PM |
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Damn you! This was supposed to be a "told you so" thread. How dare you bring these items up? |
Raster |
Oct-14-11 08:58 AM |
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Regarding Taylor, Bean and Lee Farkas |
JDPriestly |
Oct-13-11 09:32 PM |
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Becasue the # of prosecutions is not relevant. It's who's prosecuted vs. who's protected. |
GOTV |
Oct-14-11 12:28 PM |
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Rec'd. Truth. -nt |
CakeGrrl |
Oct-13-11 02:45 PM |
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Ah ok so one out of thousands huh? Color me unimpressed. |
slay |
Oct-13-11 02:54 PM |
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Color me unsurprised by your inability to acknowledge ALL the facts detailed in the OP. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-13-11 03:05 PM |
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A few fall guys. A few fines. |
sulphurdunn |
Oct-14-11 11:36 AM |
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Oct-13-11 11:29 PM |
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He got nailed for insider trading, even Martha Stewart got prison time |
ChandlerJr |
Oct-13-11 02:59 PM |
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What do you think Wall Street reform was about? Pres. Obama stands behind the Volcker Rule in it. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-13-11 03:13 PM |
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Oct-13-11 11:48 PM |
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Cowardice. |
FedUp_Queer |
Oct-14-11 11:03 AM |
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Yes, we know you're never satisfied, even when Pres. Obama reverses Clinton's deregulating shame. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:49 PM |
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Oct-14-11 02:00 PM |
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Good. Although that fine's way too low. |
BreweryYardRat |
Oct-13-11 06:19 PM |
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Nice that he's going away. Even if it is just for show. |
Jakes Progress |
Oct-13-11 07:59 PM |
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Not all that difficult to convict an outsider, an apparent immigrant. |
JDPriestly |
Oct-13-11 09:19 PM |
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That's why they went after him. |
BulletproofLandshark |
Oct-13-11 09:47 PM |
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They can't do that. |
FedUp_Queer |
Oct-15-11 05:13 PM |
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"In 2009, the agency launched nearly 500 investigations, double the 2008 level" |
bhikkhu |
Oct-13-11 09:20 PM |
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Who prosecuted this crime? Seems it was a Manhattan DA. |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-13-11 09:28 PM |
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THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT MY PREDETERMINED NARRATIVE! |
BulletproofLandshark |
Oct-13-11 09:48 PM |
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I'm sorry if it doesn't support your predetermined narrative. |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-14-11 12:13 AM |
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Sorry for the misunderstanding. |
BulletproofLandshark |
Oct-14-11 05:40 AM |
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+1 |
emilyg |
Oct-13-11 10:12 PM |
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+2 |
russspeakeasy |
Oct-13-11 10:32 PM |
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Hmmm? |
ProSense |
Oct-13-11 11:05 PM |
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Thanks to you and Clark for still trying to debunk the bullshit |
Number23 |
Oct-14-11 12:56 AM |
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"deceptive claims"? The irony of your red herring accusation is striking given the FACTS. --> |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-13-11 11:06 PM |
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A massive crime was committed against this country by |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-13-11 11:58 PM |
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Your rhetoric is patently false. ProSense and I answered your question & my OP proves you wrong. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:25 AM |
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Your OP proves that one person |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-14-11 01:05 AM |
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Wrong again. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:12 AM |
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About what? |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-14-11 01:16 AM |
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Enough with the strawmen. Your leading sentence is false. You were wrong here too. --> |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 02:05 AM |
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You cannot expect honesty from that one. |
joshcryer |
Oct-14-11 02:16 AM |
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Hey you! Stop revealing the truth! We have propaganda to sell. |
Safetykitten |
Oct-14-11 12:11 AM |
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A net of $2.8 billion after the fine and an 11-year sentence he'll probably never have to serve? |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 12:18 AM |
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FACT: He "must report within 45 days to the Bureau of Prisons, which will assign him to a facility." |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:31 AM |
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I wonder what kind of "facility" it is. Bread and water? Toilet next to the wooden bed? |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 12:34 AM |
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Here's their website. --> |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:46 AM |
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I'm not doing your research for you. You're the one making an allegation. Defend it. |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 12:47 AM |
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You're making a false statement. I proved you wrong on your original claim so just accept it. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:48 AM |
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You didn't prove anything. Has the criminal started serving his sentence yet? |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 12:50 AM |
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The New York Times did it for me. And reread Reply #51. Lather, rinse, repeat. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:52 AM |
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So I have 45 days to be proven right. |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 12:53 AM |
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Uh huh. Unlike me, you have zero facts on your side, of course. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:55 AM |
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You have the kind of facts that can see into the future?? |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 12:56 AM |
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I am quoting The New York Times re: what the judge ordered. Who are your legal sources? |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:57 AM |
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Please show me the quote from NYT "legal sources" that says this guy will serve the full... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:00 AM |
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LOL! Moving the goalpost now? Do your own homework. I've answered you enough. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:06 AM |
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I'm not moving anything. I say he never serves the full 11 years. Guys like this seldom do. |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:11 AM |
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There's no parole. But he is Christie-corpulent. If the perp dies, then you'd be right. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:15 AM |
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There is time off for good behavior - per your post. |
GOTV |
Oct-14-11 12:39 PM |
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Quote? |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:33 PM |
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Nobody goes to prison for sleeping in the park. |
bornskeptic |
Oct-14-11 02:18 PM |
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By the way, you've conveniently avoided the FACT that this criminal netted a $2.8 billion profit. |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 12:58 AM |
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So what? Go cry to the judge or run for office and change sentencing guidelines in NY. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:59 AM |
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So what? Your OP screams that he's being "held accountable." But now it's... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:01 AM |
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He does have that heavy burden to carry. "White Collar Criminal and Billionaire". That's harsh! |
Safetykitten |
Oct-14-11 01:07 AM |
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Being sentenced to a record eleven years in federal prison for this type of crime is historic. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:10 AM |
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Wow, so now sentences for country club prisons are only tiny, not miniscule. |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:36 AM |
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A record setting 11 yr, sentence is "tiny"? Sure. Prove that FMC Butner is a "country club prison" |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:41 AM |
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Prove that it isn't one. And tell the folks serving longer for shoplifting to feed their families... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:47 AM |
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You made the claim, I didn't, so prove it. Also name "the folks serving longer for shoplifting". |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:51 AM |
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I repeat, Didn't you say that he'd be "assigned to a facility in 45 days?" So why do you somehow... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:52 AM |
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Name "the folks serving longer sentences for shoplifting" in federal prison. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:54 AM |
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I repeat, so you have zero proof of your bogus claims. How unsurprising |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:54 AM |
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My OP proves my claims. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:59 AM |
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It proves that letting a criminal keep $2.8 billion of the $2.9 billion he stole holds him... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 02:01 AM |
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If you're not happy with the fine, that's not my problem. Complain to the judge. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 02:03 AM |
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This has nothing to do with my happiness. Show me where the article proves that letting a... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 02:06 AM |
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Yes, it does. You keep complaining about it. It clearly bothers you. That's not my problem. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 02:09 AM |
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No, I keep complaining that it undermines the entire premise of your OP, that this common thief... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 02:13 AM |
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You're entitled to your subjective opinion. Legally speaking, you are wrong. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 02:16 AM |
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I agree that it's my opinion that your opinion is laughable. Why do you keep trying avoid... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 02:19 AM |
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Yawn. Your empty rhetoric is a bore. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 02:28 AM |
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If he got to keep that money then this is certainly not justice. |
GOTV |
Oct-14-11 12:45 PM |
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Life Sentences for Shoplifting. |
FedUp_Queer |
Oct-14-11 11:12 AM |
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Apples and oranges. What does CA state law circa 2004 have to do with this federal case? |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:02 PM |
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Oct-14-11 01:35 PM |
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That's right. Your never ending complaints do not change the facts contained in my OP. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:08 AM |
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I didn't say it changed any facts. I said it gave the lie to your allegation that this criminal... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:13 AM |
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That's your subjective opinion. Legally speaking, you are wrong. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:16 AM |
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No, that's YOUR subjective opinion. I wasn't speaking about anything "legally." I was speaking... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:18 AM |
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The fine is a legal fact, as reported by The New York Times article. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:19 AM |
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Tricky. Change your post after I've responded. Can't win on the "facts," so you resort to cheating? |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:21 AM |
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Oct-14-11 01:26 AM |
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I give him copious credit when he deserves it. I think it disrespects him to... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:30 AM |
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That's news to me. Here's proof of President Obama's role in bringing this case to fruition.--> |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:33 AM |
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Whether he was responsible for this failure of justice or not, he doesn't deserve kudos for it. |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:35 AM |
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A record prison term = "failure of justice"? lol! Your perspective is quite skewed. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:38 AM |
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A record prison term? I'm sure that'll console the folks serving longer sentences for shoplifting. |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:41 AM |
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Name "the folks serving longer sentences for shoplifting" in federal prison at FMC Butner. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:42 AM |
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Oh, they don't get the country club accommodations. But you keep avoiding the point. |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:45 AM |
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I repeat, name "the folks serving longer sentences for shoplifting" in federal prison at FMC Butner. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:47 AM |
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I repeat, Didn't you say that he'd be "assigned to a facility in 45 days?" So why do you somehow... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:52 AM |
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You have zero proof of your bogus claims. How unsurprising. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:54 AM |
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You have zero proof of your bogus claims. How unsurprising. |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:55 AM |
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lol! Keep repeating after me... maybe you'll finally read Reply 51. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 02:03 AM |
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I did. See reply #119. |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 02:04 AM |
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Oct-14-11 02:10 AM |
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I'm not talking about "the fine." I'm talking about how patently laughable it is to claim that... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:27 AM |
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Again, that's your subjective opinion. Legally speaking, you are wrong. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:29 AM |
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I'm not legally speaking. And yes, it's my opinion that your opinion is laughable. |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:31 AM |
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The feeling is mutual. Yet unlike you, I have facts to back me up. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:35 AM |
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Okay, show me the facts that say that a $2.8 billion profit holds a criminal "accountable"... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:39 AM |
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You're constructing a strawman argument. Is that all you've got? |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:45 AM |
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Didn't you say that he'd be "assigned to a facility in 45 days?" So why do you somehow know... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:48 AM |
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Where is proof of your claim that the facility is a "country club prison"? |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:53 AM |
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So you have zero proof for your bogus claims. How unsurprising. |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:54 AM |
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You're right. I should have phrased that differently. I should have said... |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 01:58 AM |
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Name "the folks serving longer sentences for shoplifting" in federal prison at FMC Butner. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:58 AM |
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I thought your "facts" said he'd be assigned a facility in 45 days. So what the hell is "FMC Butner? |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 02:00 AM |
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For the second time: Reread Reply #51. You keep ignoring the facts in favor of empty rhetoric. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 02:00 AM |
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I did. It says, "FACT: He "must report within 45 days to the Bureau of Prisons, which will..." |
ClassWarrior |
Oct-14-11 02:02 AM |
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Oct-14-11 02:07 AM |
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That's one sentence. Try reading the REST of the paragraph I have repeatedly quoted. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 10:23 AM |
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This was for insider trading, not going after Bank CEO's responsible for the financial crisis |
girl_interrupted |
Oct-14-11 02:02 AM |
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Did you read the entire OP? |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 10:35 AM |
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So when are they going after the Goldman Sachs guy who funneled info to Raj? |
polichick |
Oct-14-11 09:08 AM |
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Take the last paragraph to heart. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 10:33 AM |
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When it's Goldman Sachs, the answer is more than likely NEVER... |
polichick |
Oct-14-11 10:38 AM |
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Wrong. The SEC has successfully sued Goldman Sachs for fraud during the 2008-2009 financial crisis. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 10:40 AM |
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A fine is not a Goldman exec going to prison... |
polichick |
Oct-14-11 11:04 AM |
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To be exact, it was a record $550,000,000 fine. As a taxpayer, I'm satisfied with that. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 11:34 AM |
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Sounds like an excuse not to go after their good buddies. |
polichick |
Oct-14-11 11:38 AM |
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Prove it. Your conspiracy theory is unfounded. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 11:41 AM |
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That lame line you use doesn't impress me - and neither does the WH rhetoric. |
polichick |
Oct-14-11 11:50 AM |
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Lame conspiracy theories don't impress me - and neither does your negative rhetoric. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 11:53 AM |
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Refusing to prosecute high-level criminals is not a conspiracy theory, it's a policy for this WH... |
polichick |
Oct-14-11 12:06 PM |
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My OP content proves you wrong. Baseless conspiracy theory rhetoric doesn't impress me. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:09 PM |
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We already went through the difference between fines and prison... |
polichick |
Oct-14-11 12:16 PM |
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We already went though the difference between the OP facts and your baseless conspiracy theories. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:24 PM |
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Oct-14-11 09:57 AM |
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This is for insider trading - which is not behavior that brought down the Economy |
GOTV |
Oct-14-11 12:09 PM |
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Which "the government" got "brought down"? |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 12:12 PM |
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Ooops. Meant "Economy" |
GOTV |
Oct-14-11 12:24 PM |
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Great job, and there are many more crooks who need the same |
golfguru |
Oct-14-11 12:09 PM |
#158 |
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The scape-goating of one brown person |
swilton |
Oct-14-11 01:07 PM |
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Your racially-tinged comment is patronizingly offensive.Your conspiracy theory is unfounded as well. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 01:27 PM |
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It is patronizingly offensive to |
swilton |
Oct-14-11 11:55 PM |
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Not interested in your racial BS conspiracy theory. He did the crime & will soon serve record time. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-15-11 12:00 AM |
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Not a bad article but not a big deal. |
FedUp_Queer |
Oct-14-11 01:49 PM |
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Steal $2.9 Billion, pay a $10 Million dollar fine.... |
Scuba |
Oct-14-11 02:10 PM |
#176 |
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Go for it. |
ClarkUSA |
Oct-14-11 02:31 PM |
#178 |
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Rajaratnam stole $72 million. |
Moosepoop |
Oct-15-11 05:58 AM |
#183 |
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Kudos to the O Admin. |
davidwparker |
Oct-14-11 04:24 PM |
#179 |
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Well, that's one. |
Vinca |
Oct-15-11 05:28 AM |
#182 |
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LOLOL |
Skittles |
Oct-15-11 06:47 AM |
#184 |
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Oh my lord, now we have reached Alice in Wonderland levels of absurdity. |
woo me with science |
Oct-15-11 08:58 AM |
#185 |
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The op shows how the need to believe trumps all reason. |
polichick |
Oct-15-11 09:43 AM |
#186 |
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K & R! |
TomCADem |
Oct-16-11 11:41 AM |
#188 |
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Ten million to a billionaire is nothing |
marlakay |
Oct-16-11 12:20 PM |
#189 |
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Jesus H. Christ ... do you think this idiot was anywhere NEAR the top? |
Bake |
Oct-17-11 11:22 AM |
#190 |
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