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Sun Dec-20-09 11:48 AM
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| 76. But why aren't you upset that government funds are used to pay |
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the horrid medical industrial complex, rich doctors and the hospitals.
You've done nothing but make an ad hominem attack there. You haven't explained why it's not a comparable situation. This is because your basic premise - that insurance companies are the only ones who will benefit - it being compared to others who benefit whenever their services are provided.
How can you be against insuring more people? What if some of these people get sick? Under the status quo they will just owe a huge ER bill and possibly have to declare bankruptcy. But under the bill they'd be insured. But you'd give that up just to avoid a "gift to the insurance companies."
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| -Why are people not screaming about auto insurance mandates, and WITHOUT subsidies?? |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 10:56 AM |
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Well, you dont have to have auto insurance |
MadBadger |
Dec-20-09 10:58 AM |
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And there ya have it |
AnOhioan |
Dec-20-09 10:59 AM |
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Not having a car is not always a practical possibility in this nation |
NJmaverick |
Dec-20-09 10:59 AM |
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Yes, but you still dont have to have a car |
MadBadger |
Dec-20-09 11:01 AM |
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Why are motor cyclists required to purchase and wear helmets? |
NJmaverick |
Dec-20-09 11:03 AM |
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No one is required to purchase a helmet (or baby seat) |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:15 AM |
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The "free" equipment you mention is not a reality for most people and you know it. Try again. |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:37 AM |
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You know a lot about this. How much do they have to pay every month for that stuff |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:39 AM |
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Sorry. This is so lame. Most MUST have a car. Please. |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:02 AM |
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You can choose not to have a car |
bigwillq |
Dec-20-09 10:59 AM |
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Again, so lame. Most MUST have a car to survive. Please be real. |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:03 AM |
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Sorry my opinion disagrees with your opinion. |
bigwillq |
Dec-20-09 11:05 AM |
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I didn't call names. I mean grow up and get real. That is advice. |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:07 AM |
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Do these advanced tactics usually win arguments for you? |
Moochy |
Dec-20-09 11:20 AM |
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Lame is a name |
bigwillq |
Dec-20-09 11:31 AM |
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Lame is an adjective for your argument, and that is self-evident. |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:36 AM |
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Next time you want to prove a point |
bigwillq |
Dec-20-09 11:37 AM |
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So if you don't have a car you will die...uh-huh. |
kiva |
Dec-20-09 11:57 AM |
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But that is the distinction that makes a difference |
DeschutesRiver |
Dec-20-09 12:00 PM |
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RBI grow up, one can live without a car well, it means living in a city, and it's easy and cheap |
digidigido |
Dec-20-09 12:06 PM |
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My son CAN'T drive because of his vision |
zalinda |
Dec-20-09 12:15 PM |
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I don't die if I don't drive. |
WT Fuheck |
Dec-20-09 11:03 AM |
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Ah. So the private, for-profit system is good as long as it is auto insurance? Hm... |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:05 AM |
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I didn't say it was good, though that was a nice try at a straw man. |
WT Fuheck |
Dec-20-09 12:26 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Dec-20-09 11:06 AM |
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Why scream? The government subsidizes my 3 year old child's premium. |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:06 AM |
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Sorry naysayers. You're pretty trapped on this one. Reality time! |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:09 AM |
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BTW, auto insurance reform, and there has been some, NEVER included a public option. Where was the |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:11 AM |
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Insisting non-drivers get government subsidies for mandated auto premiums is a fantasy |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:13 AM |
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What about the 270 million American drivers? And truckers? And farmers? And commercial fishermen? |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:16 AM |
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A blue goose can fly with tangerine love |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:18 AM |
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no you don't understand |
griffi94 |
Dec-20-09 11:31 AM |
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in this scenario the pet monkey should have two wooden legs |
dave29 |
Dec-20-09 11:41 AM |
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K&R this subthread |
Moochy |
Dec-20-09 11:50 AM |
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You've lost all ability to think rationally |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:19 AM |
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I'm being irrational? |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:22 AM |
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Yes. |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:26 AM |
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But apples aren't oranges |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:29 AM |
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It can be compared |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:33 AM |
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I'm saying don't make individuals be forced to enter the marketplace and engage in commerce |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:38 AM |
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But with Lieberman in position of 60th senator |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:45 AM |
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Lieberman is a scapegoat. |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:48 AM |
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Pointless post |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:50 AM |
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Democrats are trying to blame him for shitty reform. The reform started as a turd |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:57 AM |
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Of course they can blame him! |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 12:00 PM |
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Make em fillibuster |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 12:13 PM |
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And don't forget, Medicare is paid to PRIVATE hospitals. So where is the screeching? |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:32 AM |
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Exactly, if paying for health insurance is a gift to insurance companies |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:37 AM |
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Stupid comment: "Then Medicare should be scrapped" |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:45 AM |
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But why aren't you upset that government funds are used to pay |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:48 AM |
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The insurance is efficient and disburses monies according to claims (rather than as dividends) |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:56 AM |
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It's still comparable |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:59 AM |
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And cats are dogs |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 12:01 PM |
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Cat and dogs are both mammals |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 12:02 PM |
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In one scenario, people choose to do business with em. In the other, they are being forced to |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 12:12 PM |
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So, at least you eliminate corporate profits from the insurance end... |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:42 AM |
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So you don't care about the mandates on the 270 million American drivers? |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:29 AM |
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The ones that choose to drive? Or are they mandated by the government to drive? |
Oregone |
Dec-20-09 11:31 AM |
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The least you can do is back up this absurd figure. |
enlightenment |
Dec-20-09 12:37 PM |
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Becuase one CHOOSES to own a car or not. One does not choose whether or |
kestrel91316 |
Dec-20-09 11:09 AM |
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Lame lame lame...Ok, so let's just give up our cars. All 270 million of us. |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:13 AM |
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When did I suggest THAT? I said you can't compare the two. |
kestrel91316 |
Dec-20-09 01:40 PM |
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Then you choose to have no medical treatment if that life is threatened! |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:15 AM |
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How many choices did you have when you picked your health insurance? |
dkf |
Dec-20-09 11:10 AM |
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And the health bill provides many more choices. So you like PRIVATE auto insurance??? |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:14 AM |
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Some idiot ran into me and totalled my car a few years back. |
dkf |
Dec-20-09 11:17 AM |
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You could get sick without the aid of any other idiot |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 12:05 PM |
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Odds are most of my health care bills will be in the last 2 months of my dying |
dkf |
Dec-20-09 12:27 PM |
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It's become a mantra that health insurance companies are... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-20-09 11:11 AM |
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There is no screeching about paying for insurance of any kind |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:13 AM |
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Use your head. Crash injures another party so mandate protects the other party. |
timeforpeace |
Dec-20-09 11:13 AM |
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This would protect YOU!!!!! |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:17 AM |
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You're out of reality. MOST Americans MUST have a car, and farmers need tractors, and fishermen need |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:22 AM |
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Yep. It's true you need a car for most practical matters. |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:29 AM |
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It's not just about crashes. And farmers? And fishing boats? And long haulers? And airplanes?.... |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:18 AM |
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The link to causing direct harm to others is much more direct with reckless driving |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-20-09 11:15 AM |
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Fourteen to Sixteen percent of drivers drive without insurance |
HereSince1628 |
Dec-20-09 11:15 AM |
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Damn that's alot of screeching about real reality, folks |
Moochy |
Dec-20-09 11:19 AM |
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Let me guess, you're a middle schooler, right? |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:34 AM |
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Yes, I'm only 12 and you are 97 right? |
Moochy |
Dec-20-09 11:35 AM |
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Aren't you a teacher? |
spoony |
Dec-20-09 12:24 PM |
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Auto insurance is only required to cover damages to other drivers, you |
intheozone |
Dec-20-09 11:19 AM |
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Having a car is not absolutely required and in large metros sometimes more of a pain than help |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-20-09 11:23 AM |
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Is there ANY sense of reality here? What planet are you on? Hundreds of millions of us MUST have |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:27 AM |
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Realy Real Reality you are Dropping on us, For Reals |
Moochy |
Dec-20-09 11:36 AM |
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keepin it reals |
frylock |
Dec-20-09 01:22 PM |
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Are you denying that millions of Americans do not drive? |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-20-09 11:54 AM |
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Becasue they saved 15% in 15 minutes or less |
dave29 |
Dec-20-09 11:26 AM |
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LOL |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:31 AM |
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Because they're intellectually dishonest and want any reason to stand against Pres. Obama HCR effort |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-20-09 11:32 AM |
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I guaruntee you there will be those that say Obama is a climate change denier |
dave29 |
Dec-20-09 11:36 AM |
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Along with a long laundry list of other false Outrage memes, to be sure. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-20-09 11:45 AM |
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Yay Meme Spotting, I just found a new curled lipped dlc'er taunt |
Moochy |
Dec-20-09 11:52 AM |
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Yay a thread Leprechaun, jumping about spouting random absurdities! |
dave29 |
Dec-20-09 11:56 AM |
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Yay, it's salacious crumb sitting on Jabba's midsection |
Moochy |
Dec-20-09 11:57 AM |
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except I'd be wearing a bikini |
dave29 |
Dec-20-09 12:00 PM |
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Great now I need some healthcare |
Moochy |
Dec-20-09 12:02 PM |
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c'mon, iz sexy |
dave29 |
Dec-20-09 12:03 PM |
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!!! |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-20-09 12:02 PM |
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Clark, "Eternally Broadbrushing The Left With Cute Names" USA |
Moochy |
Dec-20-09 12:04 PM |
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Clark calls liberals and war critics Al-Quadea supporters. |
freddie mertz |
Dec-20-09 12:08 PM |
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i don't get it either |
Moochy |
Dec-20-09 12:09 PM |
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Definitely from the (very far) right side of the fence. |
freddie mertz |
Dec-20-09 12:15 PM |
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Really? Link, quote? Your mendacious whoppers are quite shameless. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-20-09 12:25 PM |
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The last one got deleted. |
freddie mertz |
Dec-20-09 12:27 PM |
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Really? But you said, "How he gets away with that here, I'll never understand." in reply #114. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-20-09 12:28 PM |
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I was speaking in broader terms regarding your survival. |
freddie mertz |
Dec-20-09 12:37 PM |
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Sure you were. And yet somehow, there isn't any proof of what you say. How convenient for you. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-20-09 12:51 PM |
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"But we knew that" |
Moochy |
Dec-20-09 11:43 AM |
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Sanders, Brown, Schumer, Weiner, Wasserman-Schultz are all FOR IT ! IT WILL PASS !! |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:51 AM |
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That's right, RB. Senator Barbara Boxer and SEIU's Andy Stern are for it, too. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-20-09 12:05 PM |
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Immigration reform will be very interesting |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:53 AM |
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Now that you brought it up, I believe we can bet on that happening. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-20-09 12:08 PM |
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You Have The Public Option of Not Owning A Car |
Yavin4 |
Dec-20-09 11:41 AM |
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Oh cute. Tell that to the hundreds of millions who need them for their jobs, who commute...get real |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:48 AM |
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You are avoiding my answer. You skip right by it. n/t |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-20-09 11:55 AM |
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You claim 100% people need a car to survive. This is false. |
Moochy |
Dec-20-09 12:22 PM |
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You Can Live In Urban Areas And Not Need A Car |
Yavin4 |
Dec-20-09 12:25 PM |
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Yes. But you have to have a body |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:53 AM |
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Because the IRS doesn't come after people that don't buy car insurance |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-20-09 11:44 AM |
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Wow, are you really stupid......... |
KansasVoter |
Dec-20-09 11:44 AM |
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People need insurance for their own health even more |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:57 AM |
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Wow. You are ultra-DUMB because you ENTIRELY miss the point. |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 12:08 PM |
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Why aren't the naysayers rallying against Medicare as a boon for private hospitals? |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:46 AM |
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Stop while you are WAY behind. Are you drinking so early?? |
KansasVoter |
Dec-20-09 11:49 AM |
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Oh, I guess the naysaying screechers are the only ones entitled to an opinion? |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 11:53 AM |
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WTF? |
treestar |
Dec-20-09 11:54 AM |
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May we reply back to you this way every time you post a "fucking" OP? |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-20-09 12:10 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Dec-20-09 11:55 AM |
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You won't find consistency on this board. The volume |
WestSeattle2 |
Dec-20-09 12:12 PM |
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Because we're conditioned to it. |
tranche |
Dec-20-09 11:49 AM |
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Because you don't HAVE to drive, and rates in many places are regulated. |
freddie mertz |
Dec-20-09 12:06 PM |
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Yes, people DO have to drive, and though regulated the PRIVATE ins. co.'s are in CONTROL. |
RBInMaine |
Dec-20-09 12:10 PM |
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We have a thing called "Safe Auto" in PA that insures people with less money. |
freddie mertz |
Dec-20-09 12:12 PM |
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My auto insurance costs less per year than my health insurance costs per month |
niceypoo |
Dec-20-09 12:16 PM |
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The same principle holds. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-20-09 12:19 PM |
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I can live without a car |
niceypoo |
Dec-20-09 12:51 PM |
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It's not all about you, y'know. The OP's point still stands. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-20-09 01:02 PM |
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They won't discuss the issue of choice or the structure of the system |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-20-09 12:20 PM |
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Who says they aren't complaining?Yes, there are subsidies& no you dont have to own a car |
girl_interrupted |
Dec-20-09 12:27 PM |
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MANDATORY AUTO INSURANCE IS ALSO A SCAM. My car insurance in Australia was $25/year - including tax |
grahamhgreen |
Dec-20-09 12:27 PM |
#131 |
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I'm not surprised to see you equate inanimate objects with |
Bluenorthwest |
Dec-20-09 12:52 PM |
#139 |
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The OP is making a point on principle. Are you implying RB in Maine is part of "The Bush crowd"? |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-20-09 01:04 PM |
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I didn't but I can't help notice RB won't touch that we don't even have market based choice |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-20-09 01:57 PM |
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Most ridiculous Failpost of the day n/t |
spiritual_gunfighter |
Dec-20-09 02:07 PM |
#145 |
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I'm locking this |
proud patriot |
Dec-20-09 02:10 PM |
#146 |
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