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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #80
83. What think you of this response to Professor Harris Perry's article?
Edited on Thu Sep-29-11 03:59 PM by Empowerer
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Furthermore, unless you're black, you can't possibly understand. Yada, yada, yada. This unfortunate obsession increasingly resembles a photo negative of KKK racial thought. It's useful for intimidating tenure committees staffed by Ph.D.s trained to find racist symbols in the passing clouds. Otherwise, Harris-Perry's becoming a left-wing Michele Bachmann, an attractive woman seeking fame and fortune by saying silly things on cable TV.

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/feature/2011/09/28/o...

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  -Would the reaction to Prof. Perry's piece have been the same if it was by a white commentator? Empowerer  Sep-27-11 08:22 AM   #0 
  - It would not have been identical had it been written by a different commentator of any race.  Better Believe It   Sep-27-11 08:47 AM   #1 
  - What about her political background and history make a difference?  Empowerer   Sep-27-11 08:59 AM   #2 
  - Are you suggesting by your question that white liberals would be easier on her if she was white?  Better Believe It   Sep-27-11 09:07 AM   #3 
  - Why not just answer the question?...nt  SidDithers   Sep-27-11 09:08 AM   #4 
     - It's too much like right.  These Eyes   Sep-27-11 09:36 AM   #7 
  - I'm not "suggesting" anything  Empowerer   Sep-27-11 09:15 AM   #5 
     - So that you can reject our thoughs.  Marnie   Sep-28-11 06:21 PM   #63 
        - The OP hasn't rejected anyone's thoughts in this thread  EffieBlack   Sep-28-11 07:38 PM   #65 
  - You are misrepresenting her argument. Which is not surprising.  emulatorloo   Sep-27-11 10:23 AM   #12 
  - if there's anyone here with a "marketing pitch", it's you.  dionysus   Sep-29-11 12:23 PM   #75 
     - .......  treestar   Sep-29-11 03:59 PM   #82 
  - here's one difference I would expect  Enrique   Sep-27-11 09:24 AM   #6 
  - +1  young but wise   Sep-27-11 09:48 AM   #9 
  - Interesting - thanks  Empowerer   Sep-27-11 09:48 AM   #10 
  - Interesting...is it fear of being labeled a racist?  vaberella   Sep-29-11 06:28 AM   #71 
  - As a white woman and an admirer of both perry and walsh, I think that walsh  CTyankee   Sep-27-11 09:40 AM   #8 
  - Excellent point CTyankee...I agree with you.  vaberella   Sep-29-11 06:29 AM   #72 
  - Further dialog (and intense listening) would be helpful here.  CTyankee   Sep-29-11 07:37 AM   #74 
  - Joan Walsh started her article with...  ljm2002   Sep-29-11 04:23 PM   #85 
     - is it possible for the facts to be manipulated to sensationalize and  Supersedeas   Oct-01-11 05:50 AM   #88 
  - My reaction would have been  Prism   Sep-27-11 09:53 AM   #11 
  - +1. And it's been going on here at DU for much longer than 3 years.  yardwork   Sep-27-11 10:27 AM   #13 
  - Note to Prism: The LGBT Community includes blacks, Hispanics, Asians,  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-27-11 10:46 AM   #14 
  - Which is why the tactic is so bone-jarringly stupid.  Prism   Sep-27-11 10:52 AM   #15 
  - But why are you comparing attitudes towards LGBT with attitudes among blacks?  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-27-11 10:59 AM   #16 
     - It's not being compared to attitudes among blacks.  Pab Sungenis   Sep-27-11 11:10 AM   #17 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-27-11 09:30 PM   #51 
     - If you hate it so much, you should speak up more  Prism   Sep-27-11 11:14 AM   #19 
        - Interestingly enough, I do! In fact, I belong to several blogs related to various aspects  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-27-11 09:33 PM   #52 
  - that is one thing where equality exists in all of us.  Whisp   Sep-27-11 11:38 AM   #25 
     - I agree with this, and if all of us really care about bigotry, none of us would dismiss  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-27-11 09:37 PM   #53 
  - In the same Three. years.  Bobbie Jo   Sep-27-11 11:34 AM   #23 
     - Defend anti-gay actions and policies and . . .  Prism   Sep-27-11 11:37 AM   #24 
     - Thanks for the demonstration.  Bobbie Jo   Sep-27-11 11:42 AM   #27 
        - The shallowness of the comparison speaks to the point quite nicely n/t  Prism   Sep-27-11 11:48 AM   #28 
           - The knee-jerk assumption and subsequent dismissal demonstrate the point  Bobbie Jo   Sep-27-11 11:55 AM   #31 
              - Is there a point?  Prism   Sep-27-11 11:59 AM   #33 
                 - I made reference to  Bobbie Jo   Sep-27-11 12:14 PM   #34 
                    - The DOMA incident for one  Prism   Sep-27-11 12:27 PM   #36 
                       - As instructed  Bobbie Jo   Sep-27-11 02:17 PM   #45 
                          - +1000!  These Eyes   Sep-27-11 05:27 PM   #47 
                          - More avoiding the question  Prism   Sep-27-11 05:33 PM   #48 
     - So which is actually worse--homophobia or accusations thereof?  Ignis   Sep-28-11 03:34 PM   #56 
        - That's a great question  Empowerer   Sep-28-11 03:47 PM   #57 
           - OT: Props.  Ignis   Sep-29-11 12:52 AM   #68 
           - I hear you, but which side would you come down on?  Ignis   Sep-29-11 12:56 AM   #69 
  - That shold be Prof. Harris-Perry. n/t  cigsandcoffee   Sep-27-11 11:11 AM   #18 
  - Another circular firing squad OP  Mr Deltoid   Sep-27-11 11:19 AM   #20 
  - Asking people for their opinion is not an invitation to a circular firing squad  Empowerer   Sep-27-11 11:22 AM   #21 
  - It fits well in the new GD:Race-Baiting forum this has become. nt  Union Scribe   Sep-28-11 06:18 PM   #62 
  - No it wouldn't have been the same  rury   Sep-27-11 11:30 AM   #22 
  - My only issue with the whole thing ...  Akoto   Sep-27-11 11:39 AM   #26 
  - that's not small issue if you think about the substance of it  Supersedeas   Sep-30-11 05:14 PM   #87 
  - NO  karynnj   Sep-27-11 11:49 AM   #29 
  - Thanks for the input about the substance of MHP's piece - much appreciated  Empowerer   Sep-27-11 12:22 PM   #35 
     - To me it made a difference  karynnj   Sep-27-11 02:05 PM   #42 
        - very well put karyn  Supersedeas   Sep-28-11 04:27 PM   #58 
  - No...  These Eyes   Sep-27-11 11:51 AM   #30 
  - This is very interesting - real food for thought. Thanks!  Empowerer   Sep-27-11 12:28 PM   #37 
  - I think that the premise of her article is flawed.  Beacool   Sep-27-11 11:55 AM   #32 
  - Thanks!  Empowerer   Sep-27-11 12:29 PM   #38 
  - I didn't know until right now that she is black!  Mimosa   Sep-27-11 12:50 PM   #39 
  - She's bi-racial; black father and white mother...  WorseBeforeBetter   Sep-29-11 12:43 PM   #76 
  - Arguably  lumberjack_jeff   Sep-27-11 01:07 PM   #40 
  - So do you think that white liberals would be "easier" on Perry if she was white?  Better Believe It   Sep-27-11 01:57 PM   #41 
  - You keep answering my question with other questions  Empowerer   Sep-27-11 02:14 PM   #43 
  - So you decline to answer that simple question. Gee .... I wonder why?  Better Believe It   Sep-27-11 03:07 PM   #46 
     - Thank you for finally answering my question.  Empowerer   Sep-27-11 08:18 PM   #49 
        - Good. I look forward to reading your response to my question.  Better Believe It   Sep-27-11 09:29 PM   #50 
  - She's half white...  WorseBeforeBetter   Sep-29-11 12:46 PM   #77 
  - No. And I seriously question whether Sirota would have  CakeGrrl   Sep-27-11 02:15 PM   #44 
  - Very interesting  Empowerer   Sep-28-11 08:10 AM   #54 
  - I do think that phenomenon is in play, to wit  CakeGrrl   Sep-28-11 05:06 PM   #60 
  - the answer is "yes" in Sirota's case  Enrique   Sep-28-11 10:23 AM   #55 
     - Your response implies several dynamics at work.  CakeGrrl   Sep-28-11 04:57 PM   #59 
        - I think we agree  Enrique   Sep-28-11 07:29 PM   #64 
  - Name one white commentator who would have considered  Marnie   Sep-28-11 06:11 PM   #61 
  - Tim Wise  EffieBlack   Sep-28-11 07:52 PM   #66 
  - I had a thought about that in post #44.  CakeGrrl   Sep-28-11 08:56 PM   #67 
  - I agree...  These Eyes   Sep-29-11 07:18 AM   #73 
  - What about the standards Obama is held to?  treestar   Sep-29-11 03:57 PM   #81 
  - So now you're racist if you aren't happy with Obama and you're ...  Ganja Ninja   Sep-29-11 06:24 AM   #70 
  - Stupid  Mr Deltoid   Sep-29-11 01:13 PM   #78 
     - It's stupid only if you have a comprehension problem  EffieBlack   Sep-29-11 01:33 PM   #79 
        - The longer this goes on  Mr Deltoid   Sep-30-11 12:25 AM   #86 
  - Not at all  treestar   Sep-29-11 03:55 PM   #80 
     - What think you of this response to Professor Harris Perry's article?  Empowerer   Sep-29-11 03:59 PM   #83 
        - Sounds like right wingers and their defensiveness  treestar   Sep-29-11 04:10 PM   #84 
 

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