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melissaf Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 12:29 AM
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146. If the shoe don't fit, don't wear it.
If you don't like Obama and also don't believe you're a racist, then no one's talking about you, are they? Maybe take a look around and find someone who might fit the criteria that Harris-Perry is describing. Or do all progressives have to think alike to join the club?
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  -"The controversy around Obama is not about race." Responses to the Melissa Harris article. Better Believe It  Sep-23-11 12:09 PM   #0 
  - Isn't this a call out and/or continuation of another ongoing discussion?  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-23-11 12:12 PM   #1 
  - No  Cali_Democrat   Sep-24-11 12:03 AM   #72 
     - Of course it is, Cali! Stop the bullshit!  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-26-11 11:33 PM   #149 
  - I think that many of us became Obama supporters in 2008  hfojvt   Sep-23-11 12:18 PM   #2 
  - Ok... Should I care that posters don't agree with her?  BklnDem75   Sep-23-11 12:22 PM   #3 
  - "Why not post responses from DU? " Done! Your response is posted in this string along with others.  Better Believe It   Sep-23-11 12:35 PM   #8 
     - I'm talking about a thread  BklnDem75   Sep-23-11 12:49 PM   #12 
     - lol  Mr Deltoid   Sep-23-11 01:52 PM   #37 
  - K&R Re: Naomi Klein comment in OP: she rocks.  Mimosa   Sep-23-11 12:25 PM   #4 
  - I think it doesn't get any more thruthful, respectfully civil  chill_wind   Sep-23-11 06:23 PM   #51 
  - The controversy about Obama is about policy and inaction rather than race.  avaistheone1   Sep-23-11 12:27 PM   #5 
  - .  avaistheone1   Sep-23-11 12:59 PM   #18 
  - False, false, false. You are completely wrong on this.  vaberella   Sep-23-11 11:27 PM   #69 
     - The OP wasn't about 'most Americans,' the focus is restricted to white progressives  Supersedeas   Sep-24-11 06:03 AM   #84 
        - I'm responding to a posters comment, not the OP.  vaberella   Sep-24-11 10:24 AM   #101 
        - And it's STILL bullshit because MHP *WAS NOT* either explicitly or implicitly  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-26-11 11:35 PM   #150 
  - Wow  ProSense   Sep-23-11 12:31 PM   #6 
  - "Some of my best friends are black people."  Robb   Sep-23-11 12:33 PM   #7 
  - Wow!  whatchamacallit   Sep-23-11 12:39 PM   #9 
  - You don't think it's a conversation worth having?  Robb   Sep-23-11 12:41 PM   #10 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-23-11 12:45 PM   #11 
     - I do  whatchamacallit   Sep-23-11 12:50 PM   #14 
     - I worked to put him in office, and I still think it bears examining.  Robb   Sep-23-11 12:52 PM   #15 
     - But you see Robb, I have an issue with calling others bigots  Bluenorthwest   Sep-23-11 01:15 PM   #25 
        - The biggest mistake *any* of us make  Robb   Sep-23-11 01:22 PM   #27 
           - but you see Robb, I said no such thing at all.  Bluenorthwest   Sep-23-11 01:52 PM   #35 
              - Heh. Well, If you truly believe dancing around the obvious subtext is substantively different  Robb   Sep-23-11 02:06 PM   #42 
                 - Whatever Robb  Bluenorthwest   Sep-23-11 02:18 PM   #43 
                    - Sounds fine to me. (nt)  Robb   Sep-23-11 02:24 PM   #44 
     - No one's denying that fact! The problem is dismissing ANY notion that  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-26-11 11:44 PM   #152 
     - I think it's worth discussing. n/t  vaberella   Sep-24-11 05:57 AM   #83 
  - My fav: "I'm not a bigot but marriage is for a man and a woman  Bluenorthwest   Sep-23-11 12:50 PM   #13 
  - I haven't seen the responses at the Nation  whatchamacallit   Sep-23-11 12:55 PM   #16 
  - No problem; as I read it again I was unclear.  Robb   Sep-23-11 12:57 PM   #17 
  - bleh  Union Scribe   Sep-23-11 01:04 PM   #20 
  - So no one who objects to be cast as a bigot is a bigot?  Robb   Sep-23-11 01:06 PM   #21 
     - How convenient.  Union Scribe   Sep-23-11 01:08 PM   #22 
        - Not hardly.  Robb   Sep-23-11 01:08 PM   #23 
        - The idea that white critics hate Obama because he's black  Union Scribe   Sep-23-11 01:12 PM   #24 
           - Talk  ProSense   Sep-23-11 01:23 PM   #28 
           - Okay, let me agree on that guy.  Union Scribe   Sep-23-11 01:35 PM   #31 
              - Well  ProSense   Sep-23-11 01:51 PM   #34 
                 - I honestly  Union Scribe   Sep-23-11 02:01 PM   #39 
           - And yet we discuss it at length.  Robb   Sep-23-11 01:24 PM   #29 
        - No.  jefferson_dem   Sep-23-11 01:38 PM   #33 
  - Exactly. And I'm particularly fond of the comments from "proud civil rights warriors"  Number23   Sep-23-11 06:27 PM   #54 
  - you are dissing it based on the RESPONSES???  Skittles   Sep-24-11 10:38 PM   #134 
  - Triple wow.  avaistheone1   Sep-23-11 01:00 PM   #19 
  - You can argue all you want  treestar   Sep-23-11 01:19 PM   #26 
  - I've said before: It's too bad we don't have archives from the Clinton era  CakeGrrl   Sep-23-11 01:26 PM   #30 
  - Exactly - all of those things should have gotten Clinton  treestar   Sep-23-11 01:52 PM   #36 
  - some of the substance and specifics that MHP could have include to support her accusation  Supersedeas   Sep-27-11 02:50 PM   #158 
  - prove clinton WOULDN'T have received as much crap if the internet were as widely available then  frylock   Sep-23-11 02:48 PM   #46 
  - It was  treestar   Sep-23-11 03:24 PM   #49 
     - no kidding, hunh?  frylock   Sep-23-11 06:35 PM   #56 
  - Read a Michael Moore book from the Clinton era  Bjorn Against   Sep-24-11 09:39 AM   #96 
  - Why are Obama supporters so obsessed with Bill Clinton?  Mr Deltoid   Sep-25-11 08:44 PM   #145 
     - Because Clinton supporters are so obsessed with Obama.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-26-11 11:49 PM   #153 
  - Some of my best friends are ...  jefferson_dem   Sep-23-11 01:37 PM   #32 
  - *yank* *yank*  Bobbie Jo   Sep-23-11 01:55 PM   #38 
  - Harris Perry comes right out and said it--white liberals are guilty of electoral racism  Supersedeas   Sep-23-11 02:03 PM   #40 
  - Unrec..  SidDithers   Sep-23-11 02:05 PM   #41 
  - "I'm not Black, but my Black friend said...."  Ikonoklast   Sep-23-11 02:28 PM   #45 
  - I am black and am going to rec this post  Dokkie   Sep-24-11 04:36 AM   #79 
     - Well  ProSense   Sep-24-11 08:05 AM   #89 
        - Hell to the yes. n/t  vaberella   Sep-24-11 11:25 AM   #108 
        - I'm going to rec it too.  Fuddnik   Sep-24-11 11:49 AM   #112 
        - very true  Dokkie   Sep-24-11 07:03 PM   #128 
        - I am a black woman who is very proud of her gay black father and fully support this president  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-26-11 11:55 PM   #154 
        - very true  Dokkie   Sep-24-11 07:03 PM   #129 
  - Recommended  Autumn   Sep-23-11 02:53 PM   #47 
  - I don't agree with many of Obama's policies but I like his skin color!  Better Believe It   Sep-23-11 06:02 PM   #50 
     - "authentic"  Bobbie Jo   Sep-23-11 06:41 PM   #57 
     - Awww, come on and admit it......  Fuddnik   Sep-24-11 11:54 AM   #114 
        - You can say that again.  Supersedeas   Sep-27-11 09:10 AM   #157 
  - Odd that racism can't be discussed rationally.  jaxx   Sep-23-11 02:58 PM   #48 
  - Why, indeed?  Number23   Sep-23-11 06:52 PM   #60 
  - So do you also think that most male progressives who didn't support Hillary Clinton were sexists?  Better Believe It   Sep-23-11 06:58 PM   #61 
  - That ain't really the damn point, now is it?  Number23   Sep-23-11 07:12 PM   #62 
     - So you also don't rule out that sexism could be behind a significant portion of progressive .......  Better Believe It   Sep-24-11 12:04 AM   #73 
        - When did Hillary become President in your universe? She never made it here.  ClarkUSA   Sep-24-11 01:20 AM   #76 
        - Please see the subject heading of post #62  Number23   Sep-24-11 01:48 AM   #77 
        - So you agree that the great majority of "Obama critics" are not racists. Is that right?  Better Believe It   Sep-24-11 10:03 AM   #100 
           - Stop distorting Number 23's words to build another lame strawman argument.  ClarkUSA   Sep-24-11 10:36 AM   #104 
           - Key word...  Bobbie Jo   Sep-24-11 11:24 AM   #107 
           - What will the OP do if he's not able to distort and twist the truth?  Number23   Sep-24-11 05:08 PM   #125 
           - If you have to try this hard to completely distort and lie about what I've written  Number23   Sep-24-11 05:01 PM   #124 
           - I haven't posted any "racist comments" as you claim. So quit playing the race card.  Better Believe It   Sep-24-11 11:06 PM   #136 
              - Oh Please...  Bobbie Jo   Sep-25-11 12:17 AM   #137 
              - Put me on ignore! I'd welcome that with open arms  Number23   Sep-25-11 12:49 AM   #138 
                 - You clearly prefer to engage in personal attacks against progressive DU'ers rather than civil debate  Better Believe It   Sep-25-11 04:04 PM   #140 
                    - "Your constant attacks gave me no choice but to put you on ignore"  Number23   Sep-25-11 04:49 PM   #142 
           - If the shoe don't fit, don't wear it.  melissaf   Sep-26-11 12:29 AM   #146 
        - How many of your posts start out with "So you"...  SidDithers   Sep-27-11 07:20 AM   #155 
  - +1000  EffieBlack   Sep-23-11 07:17 PM   #63 
  - The issue here isn't denial of racism... in general,  lumberjack_jeff   Sep-26-11 05:24 PM   #147 
  - What rational discussion?  Supersedeas   Sep-24-11 06:27 AM   #86 
     - I'm one of those 'progressive whities'.  jaxx   Sep-24-11 10:25 AM   #102 
        - I found MHP's follow-up discussion revealing  Supersedeas   Sep-26-11 11:31 PM   #148 
  - Oh my GOD  Number23   Sep-23-11 06:25 PM   #52 
  - I think that's one of the issues with the right.  bigwillq   Sep-23-11 06:26 PM   #53 
  - I've just read the majority comments on this piece  Number23   Sep-23-11 06:32 PM   #55 
  - Of course...one post even touches directly on Race...but oh right.."race actually plays no role"  vaberella   Sep-23-11 11:13 PM   #68 
  - I didn't abandon the WH:  blkmusclmachine   Sep-23-11 06:43 PM   #58 
  - If you think you were singled out, how important are you?  jaxx   Sep-23-11 06:51 PM   #59 
     - Don't have to be singled out  Mr Deltoid   Sep-23-11 08:00 PM   #65 
        - We're all left of center right.  jaxx   Sep-23-11 08:01 PM   #66 
  - Happy to unrecc this bullshit!! n/t  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-23-11 07:38 PM   #64 
  - Ditto. n/t  vaberella   Sep-23-11 11:28 PM   #70 
  - Why are you posting this here? One of the ones you posted is utterly insulting.  vaberella   Sep-23-11 11:12 PM   #67 
  - Even more disturbing....  Bobbie Jo   Sep-24-11 12:05 AM   #74 
     - Exactly. S/he put it in BOLD--suggesting it's a favorite one. I'm ALERTING this thread. n/t  vaberella   Sep-24-11 05:45 AM   #81 
        - Do you disagree with Prof. Kennedy's take?  seaglass   Sep-24-11 12:37 PM   #119 
  - Believe me when I say IT"S ABOUT RACE!!!!!  rury   Sep-24-11 12:02 AM   #71 
  - ...allowed to be mediocre. So, demanding more than mediocre  Supersedeas   Sep-24-11 06:35 AM   #87 
  - I accidentally recced this piece of garbage OP when I meant to  rury   Sep-24-11 12:05 AM   #75 
  - I think some people may have assumed him to be more left than he is in part because he is black  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-24-11 03:30 AM   #78 
  - Are you trying to tell me that people assume he's Left because he's Black?  vaberella   Sep-24-11 05:45 AM   #80 
     - obviously you are right about the stereotype being completely off base  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-24-11 06:16 AM   #85 
        - Actually no...  vaberella   Sep-24-11 08:06 AM   #90 
  - Even Melissa Harris-Perry gets it wrong once in a while.  polichick   Sep-24-11 05:54 AM   #82 
  - She is not wrong.  ProSense   Sep-24-11 08:26 AM   #93 
     - You're entitled to your opinion - and you haven't changed mine.  polichick   Sep-25-11 04:18 PM   #141 
  - Here is what pisses this White Liberal off about Obama  boomerbust   Sep-24-11 07:43 AM   #88 
  - False. Wisconsin union fighters spefically said they did not want Obama involved.  vaberella   Sep-24-11 08:11 AM   #91 
     - Fine  boomerbust   Sep-24-11 08:27 AM   #94 
     - Wisconsin  ProSense   Sep-24-11 08:34 AM   #95 
     - I remember Obama literally BEGGING people not to sit on their laurels  Liberal_Stalwart71   Sep-26-11 11:38 PM   #151 
     - I was in Madison and many union fighters did want Obama there  Bjorn Against   Sep-24-11 09:47 AM   #98 
        - Actually a large number did not based on the those who came on Ed's show.  vaberella   Sep-24-11 10:02 AM   #99 
           - I never said that there were not many people who did not, I said there were many who did  Bjorn Against   Sep-24-11 11:41 AM   #111 
              - Actually...let's think on this.  vaberella   Sep-24-11 12:10 PM   #117 
                 - Two words to prove my point about how the system is set up to benefit people like Walker:  Bjorn Against   Sep-24-11 12:24 PM   #118 
                    - Again, proven wrong in 2006. n/t  vaberella   Sep-24-11 12:52 PM   #120 
                       - Get your facts straight, Citizen's United did not exist in 2006  Bjorn Against   Sep-24-11 01:02 PM   #121 
  - The fucking blind keep leading the blind.  JTFrog   Sep-24-11 08:13 AM   #92 
  - Harris finishes her article with:  Puglover   Sep-24-11 09:42 AM   #97 
  - They want to be pissed? Get pissed at an obstructionist Congress.  Akoto   Sep-24-11 10:30 AM   #103 
  - WTF?? "white lefties... don't feel any racial bond to Obama like black lefties do"  ClarkUSA   Sep-24-11 10:49 AM   #105 
  - I thought it was insightful into the OP's way of thinking.  vaberella   Sep-24-11 11:26 AM   #109 
  - I'd agree. That's a really disgusting ignorant statement. Some of  chill_wind   Sep-24-11 12:06 PM   #116 
  - More right wing meme here about Obama's "weakness"  flamingdem   Sep-24-11 10:51 AM   #106 
  - It  ProSense   Sep-24-11 11:37 AM   #110 
  - I was stewing about this little brouhaha during the night and I wondered  Vinca   Sep-24-11 11:54 AM   #113 
  - Actually, black folk are accused all the time of supporting Barack Obama just because he's black  Empowerer   Sep-24-11 03:22 PM   #123 
     - visceral ownership is a complicated notion  Supersedeas   Sep-25-11 01:43 PM   #139 
  - Kick and Rec!  Fuddnik   Sep-24-11 12:03 PM   #115 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-24-11 01:51 PM   #122 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-24-11 06:31 PM   #126 
  - +1000  Fuddnik   Sep-24-11 06:41 PM   #127 
  - This post is so idiotic that I have to wonder what the hell you were even thinking  Number23   Sep-24-11 07:26 PM   #130 
     - +1000  Bobbie Jo   Sep-24-11 07:35 PM   #131 
     - Isn't it interesting that, until now, anybody w/a drop of black blood who called themselves black  Empowerer   Sep-24-11 09:46 PM   #132 
        - +1000  treestar   Sep-24-11 10:24 PM   #133 
        - Thank your aunt for me  Number23   Sep-24-11 10:41 PM   #135 
  - We sell ourselves short if we refuse to recognize  MerryBlooms   Sep-25-11 05:08 PM   #143 
  - in some cases she might be right  elana i am   Sep-25-11 05:24 PM   #144 
  - You pick this quote...  SidDithers   Sep-27-11 07:36 AM   #156 
 

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