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Wed Sep-21-11 12:11 AM
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| 31. I find it so interesting that you can say things like this |
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But if anyone were to say anything as disgusting as what you've written, particularly that naming a hate crime law after a gay man was "an insult," as you've just done about a black man, you'd be filling up ATA more than usual with your complaints and screams for public bannings.
The law you've just disparaged is known much more commonly as the Matthew Sheppard Act. So in fact, it is named after a gay person. And that's okay with me because at the end of the day, ANY legislation that helps mitigates hate crimes is okay with me. They could have named it the George Wallace Hate Crimes Prevention Act. I don't think most people that are on the receiving end of these acts would care that much.
Now I remember why I ignored your initial response to me.
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| -What Has Obama Done for LGBT Americans? |
babylonsister |
Sep-20-11 09:20 PM |
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Obama needs to renounce his prior statement when he said "marriage is between a man and a woman" |
Cali_Democrat |
Sep-20-11 09:23 PM |
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Wow, a negative opinion from you. |
babylonsister |
Sep-20-11 09:24 PM |
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What did I say that was negative? |
Cali_Democrat |
Sep-20-11 09:25 PM |
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How about applauding what has been done, as witnessed by |
babylonsister |
Sep-20-11 09:33 PM |
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My post: |
Cali_Democrat |
Sep-20-11 10:10 PM |
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It is not negative it is the truth, |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-21-11 07:41 AM |
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I know, what a surprise. |
Pisces |
Sep-20-11 10:58 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-20-11 10:46 PM |
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Honestly quote, and get honest responses. |
boppers |
Sep-21-11 01:13 AM |
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Obama: "I believe that marriage is between a man and woman" |
Cali_Democrat |
Sep-21-11 01:44 AM |
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Thanks for linking to a fuller context. |
boppers |
Sep-21-11 04:18 AM |
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K&R. Great Chart / List. Thanks for posting it. n/t |
Tx4obama |
Sep-20-11 09:27 PM |
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What in the world is unicorn booty? |
Number23 |
Sep-20-11 09:34 PM |
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I've never heard of unicorn booty before, but everything on the chart is true. n/t |
Tx4obama |
Sep-20-11 09:41 PM |
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I learned a long time ago to always consider the source |
Number23 |
Sep-20-11 09:48 PM |
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The Chart is from 'Obama for America'. Look at the fine print at the bottom of the graph. n/t |
Tx4obama |
Sep-20-11 10:28 PM |
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Well, specifically it says "PAID for by Obama for America" |
Number23 |
Sep-20-11 10:51 PM |
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It is a down load pdf file on the Barack Obama website |
Tx4obama |
Sep-20-11 11:02 PM |
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Words that were bought and paid for.... |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-21-11 07:44 AM |
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It's a blog I'm a fan of. |
babylonsister |
Sep-20-11 09:46 PM |
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You got that right |
Number23 |
Sep-20-11 10:50 PM |
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There is a 'typo' in the chart. |
Tx4obama |
Sep-21-11 02:03 AM |
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Considering that what had been done for the LGBT*.* community by every other President |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-20-11 10:36 PM |
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So by that math, he did *Infinitely* more than any and every other President. |
The Doctor. |
Sep-20-11 10:52 PM |
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By that standard, all he needed to do to beat Bill Clinton |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-20-11 11:15 PM |
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How about judging him by both? |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Sep-20-11 11:57 PM |
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No, don't judge him by what others have done |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 12:15 AM |
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"just recent weeks"? |
boppers |
Sep-21-11 01:29 AM |
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I don't. I said |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 01:38 AM |
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"stopping the defense of DOMA" wasn't in recent weeks. |
boppers |
Sep-21-11 04:24 AM |
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Maybe "recent weeks" was a bit of an exaggeration of my own. |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 08:33 AM |
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DADT was an improvement over the past, believe it or not. |
moriah |
Sep-21-11 12:48 PM |
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Good point. |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 12:52 PM |
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Re: DOMA. |
DURHAM D |
Sep-21-11 06:51 PM |
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But he also went much further than expected. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Sep-20-11 10:57 PM |
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He has gone further than expected... |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-20-11 11:10 PM |
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.... |
The Doctor. |
Sep-20-11 11:20 PM |
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Don't laugh. |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-20-11 11:34 PM |
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So does he deserve credit for what he's done or not? |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 07:26 AM |
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If you actually read what I've posted |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 09:06 AM |
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Fair enough. |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 09:44 AM |
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It would be good, just one time, for what has been done |
jaxx |
Sep-21-11 12:17 AM |
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Who said it did? |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 12:20 AM |
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That surprises me. |
jaxx |
Sep-21-11 12:34 AM |
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Why should it? |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 12:37 AM |
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Because I've read your posts on this thread and they are mostly |
jaxx |
Sep-21-11 12:40 AM |
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What? Because I don't elevate Obama over every other fighter for gay rights that ever existed? |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 12:57 AM |
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This is today. One day. One day people said would never come. |
jaxx |
Sep-21-11 01:02 AM |
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How am I making it less? |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 01:10 AM |
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What he did no one else had the power to do, it was his, as POTUS. |
jaxx |
Sep-21-11 01:12 AM |
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Why do I need to admit it? |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 01:22 AM |
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I didn't need you to say more than any individual, I looked for |
jaxx |
Sep-21-11 10:34 AM |
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Thank you. |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 12:47 PM |
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Really? Who has done more than PBO? |
Kahuna |
Sep-21-11 06:50 AM |
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Let's start another "teh LIST" then. |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 09:32 AM |
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A list of names means squat unless you list their accomplishments |
Kahuna |
Sep-21-11 12:25 PM |
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Why don't you go look up some of them? |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 12:45 PM |
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Thanks for confessing you have no idea who those people are. |
Ignis |
Sep-21-11 04:43 PM |
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It is interesting that you brought up LBJ and the Civil rights act |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-21-11 08:11 AM |
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Once again, you lecture the wrong person. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Sep-21-11 05:31 PM |
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Having the power (and will) to end institutional barriers to equality ... |
frazzled |
Sep-20-11 11:14 PM |
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Without agitators |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-20-11 11:22 PM |
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Well, Clinton made it legal to be closeted in the military. |
boppers |
Sep-21-11 01:26 AM |
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I agree with everything you posted and you said it nicer than I |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-21-11 07:56 AM |
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Here's a link to the PDF file on the BarackObama.com website for those that wish to print the chart |
Tx4obama |
Sep-20-11 11:09 PM |
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"Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act" |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-20-11 11:30 PM |
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Wrong, it removed the prerequisite that the victim be engaged in a federally protected activity. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Sep-20-11 11:53 PM |
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No, because |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 12:13 AM |
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No, because you're wrong again and refuse to admit it. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Sep-21-11 12:26 AM |
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And thus endeth the conversation |
Number23 |
Sep-21-11 03:04 PM |
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I find it so interesting that you can say things like this |
Number23 |
Sep-21-11 12:11 AM |
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Yippeeee! |
Behind the Aegis |
Sep-20-11 11:46 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-21-11 12:13 AM |
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Here's a link to the PDF file on the BarackObama.com website for those that wish to print the CHART |
Tx4obama |
Sep-21-11 01:11 AM |
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Thank you Mr. President. |
ClassWarrior |
Sep-21-11 01:24 AM |
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Can I make one more point? |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 01:52 AM |
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There are a few more that aren't really "gay issues," we just got caught in the wake. |
Behind the Aegis |
Sep-21-11 02:14 AM |
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Bullying is one of my pet issues |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 08:59 AM |
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K&R |
NorthCarolina |
Sep-21-11 06:57 AM |
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All of that is counter balanced by the nasty energy of his ardents |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-21-11 07:36 AM |
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What has Obama done for LGBT USA? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! |
SkyDaddy7 |
Sep-21-11 08:00 AM |
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With the two recent actions (DADT certification and DOMA defense stopping) |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 09:14 AM |
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Your strawman is based on ignoring my key phrase "legally advance LGBT rights on a national level" |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-11 11:37 AM |
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Harvey Milk wasn't in Congress. |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 11:40 AM |
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That's my point. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-11 01:05 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-21-11 01:50 PM |
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WTF? Who said that? & Who was insulted? |
SkyDaddy7 |
Sep-22-11 06:59 AM |
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So if signing the repeal is 100% Obama and no one else and |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-21-11 08:41 AM |
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+1 |
ThomCat |
Sep-21-11 07:28 PM |
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There is a difference between the 'SIGNING' of the Repeal DADT bill.... |
Tx4obama |
Sep-21-11 08:56 PM |
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Thanks for posting...there was a lot on there I didn't know about. |
Flying Dream Blues |
Sep-21-11 09:23 AM |
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Eager to hear your response to my last post on the thread |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-21-11 09:26 AM |
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Ha Ha HAHAHAHAHAHA.. |
blkmusclmachine |
Sep-21-11 10:13 AM |
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The really sad thing is |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 12:55 PM |
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Many DUers have explained why posting "teh list" is counter-productive to getting Obama elected. |
yardwork |
Sep-21-11 10:31 AM |
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They're the same DUers who think attacking Obama supporters and Pres. Obama 24/7 is "productive"... |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-11 10:50 AM |
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Wrong. I keep telling you that this is a poor strategy. I support Obama's reelection. |
yardwork |
Sep-21-11 12:47 PM |
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It's good strategy to applaud Pres. Obama's factual achievements. To do otherwise is not productive. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-11 01:00 PM |
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Yes, but it's not productive |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 01:48 PM |
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Your negative and dismissive opinions do not override the facts as stated in the OFA infographic. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-11 04:24 PM |
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Many DUers who have no problem shining a spotlight on the bad, that is |
BklnDem75 |
Sep-21-11 11:07 AM |
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HRC: “President Obama has improved the lives of LGBT Americans more than any President in history." |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-11 10:59 AM |
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“President Obama has improved the lives of LGBT Americans more than any President in history." |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 12:51 PM |
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I'd agree with both statements from a legal vantage point. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-11 12:56 PM |
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You think your personal opinion holds sway. |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 01:47 PM |
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Wrong. I think the facts spelled out in the OFA infographic hold sway over your complaints. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-11 04:20 PM |
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More FACTS: Obama Administration Policy & Legislative Advancements on behalf of LGBT Americans (HRC) |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-11 11:01 AM |
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Why do you feel the need to keep repeating |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 12:54 PM |
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Why do you feel the need to disrupt this positive thread with your incessant complaints? |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-11 12:57 PM |
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You're entitled to your own opinion |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-21-11 01:46 PM |
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What wasn't factual? |
JuniperLea |
Sep-21-11 04:17 PM |
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Great graph. |
bigwillq |
Sep-21-11 11:13 AM |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Sep-21-11 11:49 AM |
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K & R |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-21-11 02:28 PM |
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Thanks for trying, unicornbooty! |
Number23 |
Sep-21-11 02:38 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Sep-21-11 02:40 PM |
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K&R Thank you Mr. President |
Whisp |
Sep-22-11 09:16 AM |
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Indeed! |
Scurrilous |
Sep-22-11 12:37 PM |
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I agree. |
Number23 |
Sep-22-11 07:43 PM |
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Obama is like the LBJ for the gays. |
craigmatic |
Sep-22-11 08:06 PM |
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