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Wed Aug-31-11 07:59 AM
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| 15. Why is it that his 'bipartisanship' has not delivered the massive |
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results and support he expected? Where are his 'independents' and 'centrists'? When does he apologize for all the anti-gay energy in the last campaign, come out for equal Civil rights for all, investigate Cheney, and do somethings about the economy other than send envelopes of cash to Wall St? Where are the results? Where is his 'middle'? Those famous 'moderates' where are they? The 'centrists' are where? When do they arrive to canvass for you? Late Oct '12?
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| -In 2004 Bush had to beat only with Democrats, in 2012 Obama has to deal with Democrats & Republicans |
wndycty |
Aug-31-11 07:29 AM |
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You realize this is a great argument for Obama to move left |
BeyondGeography |
Aug-31-11 07:31 AM |
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Or better yet its a great argument for Democrats not biting their nose off to spite their face. . . |
wndycty |
Aug-31-11 07:33 AM |
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Why isn't all that bipartisanship attracting the center? |
Pholus |
Aug-31-11 07:40 AM |
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The Republicans have their sites set on beating Obama, while we are debating whether or not. . . |
wndycty |
Aug-31-11 07:43 AM |
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So "STFU hippie and do what you are told." Gotcha. |
Pholus |
Aug-31-11 07:47 AM |
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I will add some context -- I will in all seriousness vote for him but my ENTHUSIASM is very low. |
Pholus |
Aug-31-11 07:53 AM |
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YOU? Why just YOU? What about everyone else? |
treestar |
Aug-31-11 01:53 PM |
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Normally it is, but I seem to remember voicing some concern and being PEELED OFF of the "in" crowd. |
Pholus |
Aug-31-11 03:21 PM |
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We are not debating whether or not we support him - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Aug-31-11 09:12 AM |
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Why are the hippies so egotistical? |
treestar |
Aug-31-11 01:52 PM |
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you've nothing to offer.. |
frylock |
Aug-31-11 05:58 PM |
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There are all sorts of mistakes waiting to be made |
BeyondGeography |
Aug-31-11 07:53 AM |
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If Americans like "strength" so much, maybe they should always make |
treestar |
Aug-31-11 01:55 PM |
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Gore won the popular vote. This is a tired argument, that the Green Party was responsible for Bush. |
Demit |
Aug-31-11 07:58 AM |
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SO...you don't agree that Obama should be calling out the repukes? |
muffin1 |
Aug-31-11 10:47 AM |
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Yeah, but it would seem we as Democrats could call them out too |
treestar |
Aug-31-11 01:55 PM |
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In a country.. |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-31-11 09:22 AM |
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You'd have a point if Obama was positioned as a liberal right now |
BeyondGeography |
Aug-31-11 09:30 AM |
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Not if they vote labels... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-31-11 09:46 AM |
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OK, so maybe he could start labelling the Republicans as extremists |
BeyondGeography |
Aug-31-11 09:59 AM |
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How is that moving to the right working out for ya? |
Mr Deltoid |
Aug-31-11 11:10 AM |
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he can't win with only Democratic votes |
dsc |
Aug-31-11 07:40 AM |
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And, the point is, he is losing independents by not being a strong liberal. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Aug-31-11 09:23 AM |
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"he is losing independents by not being a strong liberal"?!??? |
Inuca |
Aug-31-11 09:38 AM |
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I have just as much data supporting my thesis, as explained in my post, |
RaleighNCDUer |
Aug-31-11 09:41 AM |
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You really think that most unaffiliated voters |
Inuca |
Aug-31-11 09:46 AM |
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Please read what I wrote before replying. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Aug-31-11 10:01 AM |
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Yes, I did reply before you edited, and |
Inuca |
Aug-31-11 12:28 PM |
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i personally know several people in that category.. |
frylock |
Aug-31-11 10:50 AM |
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I know several myself frylock....... |
louslobbs |
Aug-31-11 03:51 PM |
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Obama's poll numbers among independents are plunging worse than among Dems |
Mr Deltoid |
Aug-31-11 11:24 AM |
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K&R |
liberal N proud |
Aug-31-11 07:41 AM |
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There is much at stake in 2012 and I tell folks at least vote |
axollot |
Aug-31-11 07:43 AM |
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Instead of demanding that Dems support Obama how if he backs his base? |
elocs |
Aug-31-11 07:48 AM |
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+1!!!!! |
Pholus |
Aug-31-11 07:49 AM |
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Nice re-edit. Much better than your original. nt |
Pholus |
Aug-31-11 07:58 AM |
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I did edit, but tell me what you think I edited. . . |
wndycty |
Aug-31-11 08:09 AM |
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You're right, I was wrong. I confused two different threads. PLEASE DON'T TELL MOM AND DAD!!!!! |
Pholus |
Aug-31-11 03:35 PM |
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Why is it that his 'bipartisanship' has not delivered the massive |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-31-11 07:59 AM |
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Because unfortunately the American people gave votes to Republicans and Teapartiers. |
vaberella |
Aug-31-11 09:07 AM |
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There are two applicable Truman quotes here: |
RaleighNCDUer |
Aug-31-11 10:41 AM |
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I guess that proves Democrats aren't lemmings |
n2doc |
Aug-31-11 08:55 AM |
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And if he is just another of the Republicons... what good does that do? |
Fearless |
Aug-31-11 09:07 AM |
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In 2004, Democrats had to beat only Republicans; in 2012 Democrats will have to deal with |
RaleighNCDUer |
Aug-31-11 09:09 AM |
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There are -- more accurately were -- four parties.... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-31-11 09:21 AM |
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Wrong. It is about properly framing, not labeling. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Aug-31-11 10:45 AM |
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In 2004 Bush had Bill Clinton on TV, vigorously SUPPORTING Bush's military leadership |
blm |
Aug-31-11 09:24 AM |
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Tell Obama to stop giving in to Tea baggers |
jzodda |
Aug-31-11 09:47 AM |
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many irrational Obama haters here... |
dennis4868 |
Aug-31-11 09:52 AM |
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please cite examples of the obama hatred in this thread |
frylock |
Aug-31-11 10:52 AM |
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No, they care more about the issues than they care about Obama. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Aug-31-11 10:59 AM |
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I think the President is cool, but some of his most fervent supporters give me the creeps. |
Pholus |
Aug-31-11 03:31 PM |
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you on a lunch break? |
frylock |
Aug-31-11 06:03 PM |
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They will come November 2012. |
boxman15 |
Aug-31-11 11:28 AM |
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All Obama has to do is step back into the light |
Mr Deltoid |
Aug-31-11 11:42 AM |
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You Obama hater you! :) |
Pholus |
Aug-31-11 03:37 PM |
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Wednesday afternoon kick |
wndycty |
Aug-31-11 02:10 PM |
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Repukes know how to deal with Benedict Arnolds within their ranks. |
Magister Ludi |
Aug-31-11 08:43 PM |
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You are wrong about one thing. |
totodeinhere |
Aug-31-11 09:42 PM |
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